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Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:13:00 PM EDT
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I am your only hope FL, my cats will save you from underage gun ownership and bumpstocks

Wayne taught me all he knows come support me as bumpstocks are dangerous and I saved you from the AWB  14yrs ago.

This is the face of freedom and patriotism...  unless you are a lowly under 21 citizen or own a bumpstock then you fuckers don't matter in FL.

Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:13:07 PM EDT
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Salma Hayek?

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Salma HeeHaa is more like it.
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Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:13:53 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:13:57 PM EDT
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Yes, the NRA by-laws are set as such as the BOD hires the EVP & they have the power to terminate him/her as they see fit.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:15:26 PM EDT
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wayne ain't evp just cause he says he is, he can be hired and fired

I refuse to believe he has a retirement forever clause that can't be over ridden for cause

if that's the case, then I declare myself, dex357. executive vice president for life, and wayne, you are fired

chris, clean out your desk, these folks will see you out

marion, go home, your cats are hungry
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:16:22 PM EDT
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Not quite sure how you make the leap to their "demise". 2-1/2 million members are the NRA, NOT WLP.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:17:51 PM EDT
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So to clarify, if the article is true you would support removing those board members who tried to remove WLP because of the timing? Worried more about short term press coverage than removing WLP?

ANYTIME is a good time to remove WLP and the cat lady. If they frog marched him off the stage in the middle of an nationally televised live interview with Hannity it would be a good time.

Nothing will change at the NRA until he and his quisling supporters are gone.
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That is not what I meant.  I was saying the people here will believe anything, if it helps them bash the NRA.  Any anonymous source from "someone" does not make a legit article.  Yet everyone in this thread 100% believes it as true due to their own personal bias.

They at least need name the source.  The article itself reads like bullshit.  If the NRA BoD did decide to take that action, they sure as hell would not have done it on the eve of the NRA Annual Meeting.  If so those BoD members need to be removed as well.  That would disrupt their largest annual event, designed to get them positive press coverage.  The article smells of a desperate NRA hater making up bullshit.
So to clarify, if the article is true you would support removing those board members who tried to remove WLP because of the timing? Worried more about short term press coverage than removing WLP?

ANYTIME is a good time to remove WLP and the cat lady. If they frog marched him off the stage in the middle of an nationally televised live interview with Hannity it would be a good time.

Nothing will change at the NRA until he and his quisling supporters are gone.
Yeah, that points to complete dysfunction on the board if they challenge the appointed leader as they go into their largest public and media event of the year.  What happens if Wayne says F the BoD and doesn't show up for the events he is supposed to be at?  If he was as pissed as the article claims that could happen.  Media everywhere will run headlines about how the NRA is fractured and falling apart.  It would project even more weakness on the NRA. That would cause a decrease in membership and a loss of what little influence they have with the legislators.  No one is going to support an organization that appears to be imploding.  That is also why I think the people here cheering for that to happen are not really on our side.

The BoD needs to change and needs new faces on it.  Change enough of the BoD and they will replace Wayne (during a non-critical time).
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:18:07 PM EDT
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From behind, in classic reach-around fashion.

And Wayne LaPierre can go to hell.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:18:21 PM EDT
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wayne ain't evp just cause he says he is, he can be hired and fired

I refuse to believe he has a retirement forever clause that can't be over ridden for cause

if that's the case, then I declare myself, dex357. executive vice president for life, and wayne, you are fired

chris, clean out your desk, these folks will see you out

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When the NRA BOD Executive Committee is a bunch of people your friends at AckMac helped get elected to the BOD as your rubber stamp men, your contract can be pretty much whatever you want.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:18:51 PM EDT
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It is sad how much you gargle LaPierre's balls.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:19:27 PM EDT
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"He will not go peacefully into the night. The corrupt will not go without a fight".

They are going to have to go scorched earth.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:19:31 PM EDT
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Shit, I’ve been under a rock.

LaPierre is being forced out?
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:20:44 PM EDT
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when there is a house cleaning, and it will be soon, executive committee might be out the door at the same time, or regroup to keep the organization alive
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:20:52 PM EDT
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Yeah, that points to complete dysfunction on the board if they challenge the appointed leader as they go into their largest public and media event of the year.  What happens if Wayne says F the BoD and doesn't show up for the events he is supposed to be at?  If he was as pissed as the article claims that could happen.  Media everywhere will run headlines about how the NRA is fractured and falling apart.  It would project even more weakness on the NRA. That would cause a decrease in membership and a loss of what little influence they have with the legislators.  No one is going to support an organization that appears to be imploding.  That is also why I think the people here cheering for that to happen are not really on our side.

The BoD needs to change and needs new faces on it.  Change enough of the BoD and they will replace Wayne (during a non-critical time).
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That is not what I meant.  I was saying the people here will believe anything, if it helps them bash the NRA.  Any anonymous source from "someone" does not make a legit article.  Yet everyone in this thread 100% believes it as true due to their own personal bias.

They at least need name the source.  The article itself reads like bullshit.  If the NRA BoD did decide to take that action, they sure as hell would not have done it on the eve of the NRA Annual Meeting.  If so those BoD members need to be removed as well.  That would disrupt their largest annual event, designed to get them positive press coverage.  The article smells of a desperate NRA hater making up bullshit.
So to clarify, if the article is true you would support removing those board members who tried to remove WLP because of the timing? Worried more about short term press coverage than removing WLP?

ANYTIME is a good time to remove WLP and the cat lady. If they frog marched him off the stage in the middle of an nationally televised live interview with Hannity it would be a good time.

Nothing will change at the NRA until he and his quisling supporters are gone.
Yeah, that points to complete dysfunction on the board if they challenge the appointed leader as they go into their largest public and media event of the year.  What happens if Wayne says F the BoD and doesn't show up for the events he is supposed to be at?  If he was as pissed as the article claims that could happen.  Media everywhere will run headlines about how the NRA is fractured and falling apart.  It would project even more weakness on the NRA. That would cause a decrease in membership and a loss of what little influence they have with the legislators.  No one is going to support an organization that appears to be imploding.  That is also why I think the people here cheering for that to happen are not really on our side.

The BoD needs to change and needs new faces on it.  Change enough of the BoD and they will replace Wayne (during a non-critical time).
Wayne, his minions on the BOD, and AckMac have wired the BOD so that it is almost impossible to get rid of him. If it was not for the $$$ problems and pending investigations there would be no one asking him to resign. If the NRA had not been so greedy and tried to screw the USCCA over self defense insurance and too stupid to follow the laws this would not be happening. But the NRA is led by greedy assholes.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:21:30 PM EDT
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And take the Cat Lady with him when he goes.

We need an actual Fighter here, not a No Show/No Work drain on the Membership.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:22:24 PM EDT
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If they get some of those clowns out, and actually start taking hard line stances on gun rights, I might just think about becoming a member again.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:24:44 PM EDT
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Seriously, name what point in time has it not been critical for gun rights since 1934? Implementing a 100-year transition plan for leadership is going to be a little late.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:25:24 PM EDT
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I saw Wayne's speech at the last convention and his delivery and he himself looked old.  We need someone who has energy and passion to not give that inch.

He actually looked like he had dementia to me. We need a smart fire pisser to get in there with passion to fight.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:26:54 PM EDT
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Shit, I’ve been under a rock.

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Not only that but Salma wants me to force in in.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:27:50 PM EDT
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Wow, look at all you lapping up bullshit in an article based on "According to someone we've spoken to".    An anonymous source from a low level website, must be legit.

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REALLY I THINK YOUR CONFUSED BETWEEN DEMISE AND A REBIRTH OF THE NRA. NO ONE WANT'S THE NRA TO DIE.

WE WANT IT TO DO WHAT IT'S SUPPOSE TO DO. BUT LIKE EVERYTHING THING ELSE. IT'S BECOME CORRUPTED BY A FEW INDIVIDUALS.

THAT THRIVE ON IT'S POWER AND MONEY. OVER 5 MILLION A YEAR INCOME. COME ON THAT'S STUPID.

IT'S BECOME MORE ABOUT MONEY THAN PROTECTING THE RIGHT'S OF AMERICAN'S. IF ANY OF THIS IS TRUE. IF HE DID REFUSE TO STEP DOWN TO BENEFIT THE CAUSE OF THE NRA.

THEN HE IS NOT THERE FOR ANYTHING BUT FOR MONEY. THE PEOPLE/MEMBERS WANT HIM GONE. HE HAS TO KNOW THIS. HE'S DONE NOTHING BUT MILK THE NRA.

NO FAR FROM FROM IT. WE....AMERICA WANT THE NRA AND NEED THE NRA. BUT IT'S TIME FOR NEW LEADERSHIP. THE OLD HAS BECOME CORRUPTED AND BELIEVES THAT THEY ARE THE NRA.

WHEN IT IS US, ALL OF US THAT ARE THE NRA. NOT ONE MAN OR WOMAN. THAT REFUSES TO GIVE UP POWER.


SOUND FAMILIAR,  WHO ELSE FIGHTS OVER GIVING UP POWER. DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS PARTY.

WOULD LaPierre TAKE DOWN THE ENTIRE NRA ORGANIZATION TO KEEP HIMSELF IN POWER OR AS REVENGE.

IT SURE LOOKS THAT WAS TO ME. CAESAR DOES NOT WANT TO GIVE UP THE THRONE.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:29:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:31:15 PM EDT
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I would like to see him replaced by someone better.

Make no mistake, if the NRA goes under due to infighting or their spendthrift stupidity we will be in serious trouble.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:36:24 PM EDT
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Oh look, swire’s in a tail spin over an NRA thread

Some of us can want change, (change=WLP gone) AND still support the “nra”.

That dick sucker is not us.

He’s nothing more than a tv preacher
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:36:45 PM EDT
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Salma Hayek?

Bitch is ugly.
Salma HeeHaa is more like it.
https://i.imgur.com/VNCRoZo.jpg
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:40:20 PM EDT
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Yeah, that points to complete dysfunction on the board if they challenge the appointed leader as they go into their largest public and media event of the year.  What happens if Wayne says F the BoD and doesn't show up for the events he is supposed to be at?  If he was as pissed as the article claims that could happen.  Media everywhere will run headlines about how the NRA is fractured and falling apart.  It would project even more weakness on the NRA. That would cause a decrease in membership and a loss of what little influence they have with the legislators.  No one is going to support an organization that appears to be imploding.  That is also why I think the people here cheering for that to happen are not really on our side.

The BoD needs to change and needs new faces on it.  Change enough of the BoD and they will replace Wayne (during a non-critical time).
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Lol. The media is all roses for the NRA but if WLP gets forced out then they will get negative headlines.

The media has always hated the NRA and will continue to do so. The NRA can handle that as long as members dont continue running away. Every second they keep WLP they are going to get both....this is not an either/or proposition. The current path is the NRA’s demise. Its obvious to everyone except you and WLP. Its probably obvious to WLP but he will hold onto his cash cow as long as possible.

On the other hand you can continue to believe that all the longtime gun owners criticizing the NRA on the largest gun forum in the country secretly hate guns and want them banned, its all a big antigun conspiracy by the most enthusiastic gun owners on the planet.

The NRA is in trouble and will not get the support they need from anyone except fudds until they have new leadership. That is a fact. If WLP actually cared about the organization he would have resigned already.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:42:18 PM EDT
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Nolo for EVP

I want to see somebody in there who knows how to light a fire under the anti-gunners.
We need more folks like Colin, Maria Butina (I Know) and Dana out in front of the public.

And we need real ratings on politicians - no more A+ antigunners.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:46:00 PM EDT
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Based on a conversation I had with a highly respected Board of Directors member who wishes to remain anonymous. That of the group that spoke with Wayne LaPierre, two of the people that asked for his resignation were fellow NRA Boards of Directors members and get this, employees of Ackerman McQueen. Yes, the very same advertisement company that the NRA is currently suing over financial irregularities.

The Board of Directors as a whole has not met about this yet, but my contact does inform me that there are a number of members that do wish for Wayne LaPierre to resign but he doesn't know which way the Board would vote at this time.

It appears that this is possibly a repeat of 1997 all over again.

For those that don't know, Neal Knox (the man who lead the 1977 coup against the NRA to make it into a civil rights organization instead of a sports shooting one) was seeking to remove Wayne from his position because of a question of out of control spending relating to Ackerman McQueen. Yes, this has been brought up before.

To give you an understanding of how honest the NRA was under Neal Knox. The NRA didn't endorse President George H.W. Bush in 1992 because of his open support for the push of an Assault Weapons Ban. But remember, the NRA right now is backing President Donald Trump even though he illegally banned Bump Stocks and is pushing Red Flag laws.

In a 2000 article by the Washington Post titled, CALL TO ARMS. It gives you a better understanding of the potential power play that is going on behind the scenes.

In late 1996, Knox came to LaPierre and told him to fire the NRA's influential consulting firm, Ackerman McQueen, whose staffers have high-level Republican Party connections and tend to oppose the gun fundamentalists. LaPierre said yes and did nothing. Six months later the lucrative contract was still in place. So Knox said: Wayne, I've warned you. Now I'm going to take your job.

It wasn't so easy. It turned out that LaPierre and his board allies and Ackerman McQueen had gone and changed the locks on the old revolutionary.

Finely oaked red wine and pungent cheese and Cuban cigars in the Hollywood Hills, and bull that flowed late into the evening. That's how NRA board member John Milius recalls plotting the counter-coup against Neal Knox. Milius has a broad belly and beard, and the look of a man always ready to be in on the next joke. He's a B-list movie director and an A-list screenwriter. A Zen anarchist with Republican libertarian tendencies. And he became a key agent of Knox's fall and the rise of today's NRA.

In early 1997, Knox had a majority on the board, and he had LaPierre and the consultant contract in his gun sights. Milius huddled with Col. Robert Brown, publisher of Soldier of Fortune magazine, and Anthony Makris, an NRA consultant from Ackerman McQueen. To describe these men as political moderates would be to insult them; but they were pragmatists.

Under Knox, they believed, the NRA had veered too far to the right, courting the militias and losing legislative battles. In 1995, a Republican House voted for the Brady Bill, which imposed background checks on gun purchases. Not to mention they realized that Ackerman McQueen's million-dollar contracts were at stake.

"We were facing a genuine and extremely well-organized coup d'etat." Milius pauses to cut, wet and light his Cohiba cigar, and wedge it between his teeth. "So we used our best techniques: lying, cheating and disinformation. I didn't tell the truth for weeks."

Makris and Milius invited a Knox loyalist to dinner in Los Angeles and seemingly conspired to bribe LaPierre into leaving. The loyalist got well-lubricated and so pumped; this plan was great! The next day Milius leaked the plot to LaPierre, who rose publicly and proclaimed himself shocked! -- shocked! -- that a Knox ally would try to buy him off.

LaPierre, in fact, gamed the moment perfectly. Privately, board members had for several years warned him about playing the dutiful son to Knox. The executive vice president knew just when to pull away from Knox's embrace.

The coup de grace was administered at the Seattle NRA convention in 1997. LaPierre needed a guardian angel; he got Moses. Charlton Heston (who is also represented by Makris) was elected to the board and then surprised many members by announcing he would run against Knox for first vice president. Heston beat Knox by four votes. LaPierre took the stage to cheer Heston and declare that he didn't intend "to stand by and let the NRA be turned into the John Birch Society."

For Knox, it was like storming the Winter Palace again only to find himself surrounded by the Russian army. "I had no idea there was a candidate out there with the horsepower to take me out. Then I get there and see Heston . . ."

Brown shrugs when asked about Knox's downfall. Brown's got a buzz cut, jutting chin and perpetual squint, and an I-gargle-with-rock-salt voice. He's a dead ringer for Gen. Buck Turgidson in "Dr. Strangelove." He's romantic only about shooting.

"Knox made his move a little too early, and, at risk of strategic oversimplification, he got his [expletive] ass kicked." Brown wags his eyebrows and snaps a salute. "That's war, buddy."
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The difference, is now it appears that Wayne LaPierre isn't getting the backing from Ackerman McQueen. Instead he is fighting them instead of protecting them. Will Wayne learn the vital lesson that many have over the years? Don't ever bite the hand that feeds you.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:46:07 PM EDT
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Wayne is a scumbag and has been for some time. Age has nothing to do with it.
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Time for change and new blood in the NRA.

Wayne is getting old and his mind is slipping, it's just life.
Wayne is a scumbag and has been for some time. Age has nothing to do with it.
This, he should have been canned years ago.
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That was 1997
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:48:15 PM EDT
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That is not what I meant.  I was saying the people here will believe anything, if it helps them bash the NRA.  Any anonymous source from "someone" does not make a legit article.  Yet everyone in this thread 100% believes it as true due to their own personal bias.

They at least need name the source.  The article itself reads like bullshit.  If the NRA BoD did decide to take that action, they sure as hell would not have done it on the eve of the NRA Annual Meeting.  If so those BoD members need to be removed as well.  That would disrupt their largest annual event, designed to get them positive press coverage.  The article smells of a desperate NRA hater making up bullshit.
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Wow, look at all you lapping up bullshit in an article based on "According to someone we've spoken to".    An anonymous source from a low level website, must be legit.

It is sad how much you all hope for the demise of the NRA.
You think ousting WLP is the demise of the NRA?!?
That is not what I meant.  I was saying the people here will believe anything, if it helps them bash the NRA.  Any anonymous source from "someone" does not make a legit article.  Yet everyone in this thread 100% believes it as true due to their own personal bias.

They at least need name the source.  The article itself reads like bullshit.  If the NRA BoD did decide to take that action, they sure as hell would not have done it on the eve of the NRA Annual Meeting.  If so those BoD members need to be removed as well.  That would disrupt their largest annual event, designed to get them positive press coverage.  The article smells of a desperate NRA hater making up bullshit.
The BoD didn't. Members of the BoD and other influential parties did though.
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I am aware you write for them.  They let a lot of people write for them.  A large blog doesn't make something true.  An anonymous source doesn't make something true.  At least name a source if a statement of that magnitude has been made.  The BoD wouldn't do what the article describes on the eve of the Annual Meeting.  If they were to that point then they would have already made sure they had the votes from enough BoD members to make it happen and they would have forced it if he didn't accept the offer to resign on his own.
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Wow, look at all you lapping up bullshit in an article based on "According to someone we've spoken to".    An anonymous source from a low level website, must be legit.

It is sad how much you all hope for the demise of the NRA.
LOL... TTAG is one of the largest gun blogs online and I write for them on the side.
I am aware you write for them.  They let a lot of people write for them.  A large blog doesn't make something true.  An anonymous source doesn't make something true.  At least name a source if a statement of that magnitude has been made.  The BoD wouldn't do what the article describes on the eve of the Annual Meeting.  If they were to that point then they would have already made sure they had the votes from enough BoD members to make it happen and they would have forced it if he didn't accept the offer to resign on his own.
I independently verified that some some BoD members and other parties asked for his resignation.
Link Posted: 4/26/2019 3:50:48 PM EDT
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So to clarify, if the article is true you would support removing those board members who tried to remove WLP because of the timing? Worried more about short term press coverage than removing WLP?

ANYTIME is a good time to remove WLP and the cat lady. If they frog marched him off the stage in the middle of an nationally televised live interview with Hannity it would be a good time.

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This.  It might be better if it’s loud and public, instead of quietly.
Get the organization re-energized.

Negative press will happen no matter what - the media hates gun owners.
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Based on a conversation I had with a highly respected Board of Directors member who wishes to remain anonymous. That of the group that spoke with Wayne LaPierre, two of the people that asked for his resignation were fellow NRA Boards of Directors members and get this, employees of Ackerman McQueen. Yes, the very same advertisement company that the NRA is currently suing over financial irregularities.

The Board of Directors as a whole has not met about this yet, but my contact does inform me that there are a number of members that do wish for Wayne LaPierre to resign but he doesn't know which way the Board would vote at this time.

It appears that this is possibly a repeat of 1997 all over again.

For those that don't know, Neal Knox (the man who lead the 1977 coup against the NRA to make it into a civil rights organization instead of a sports shooting one) was seeking to remove Wayne from his position because of a question of out of control spending relating to Ackerman McQueen. Yes, this has been brought up before.

To give you an understanding of how honest the NRA was under Neal Knox. The NRA didn't endorse President George H.W. Bush in 1992 because of his open support for the push of an Assault Weapons Ban. But remember, the NRA right now is backing President Donald Trump even though he illegally banned Bump Stocks and is pushing Red Flag laws.

In a 2000 article by the Washington Post titled, CALL TO ARMS. It gives you a better understanding of the potential power play that is going on behind the scenes.

The difference, is now it appears that Wayne LaPierre isn't getting the backing from Ackerman McQueen. Instead he is fighting them instead of protecting them. Will Wayne learn the vital lesson that many have over the years? Don't ever bite the hand that feeds you.
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hard to blame the NRA for supporting Trump for banning bump stocks and pushing red flag laws when the NRA openly advocated those positions before Trump did

Trump isn't really on top of the gun control issue and was just doing what the NRA "suggested"

Yeah, he put his own spin on it - but those 2 things are directly the result of WLP's statements and press releases

plus, as of last year,  ALL of the reforms under Knox have been wiped out

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Yeah, that points to complete dysfunction on the board if they challenge the appointed leader as they go into their largest public and media event of the year.  What happens if Wayne says F the BoD and doesn't show up for the events he is supposed to be at?  If he was as pissed as the article claims that could happen.  Media everywhere will run headlines about how the NRA is fractured and falling apart.  It would project even more weakness on the NRA. That would cause a decrease in membership and a loss of what little influence they have with the legislators.  No one is going to support an organization that appears to be imploding.  That is also why I think the people here cheering for that to happen are not really on our side.

The BoD needs to change and needs new faces on it.  Change enough of the BoD and they will replace Wayne (during a non-critical time).
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That is not what I meant.  I was saying the people here will believe anything, if it helps them bash the NRA.  Any anonymous source from "someone" does not make a legit article.  Yet everyone in this thread 100% believes it as true due to their own personal bias.

They at least need name the source.  The article itself reads like bullshit.  If the NRA BoD did decide to take that action, they sure as hell would not have done it on the eve of the NRA Annual Meeting.  If so those BoD members need to be removed as well.  That would disrupt their largest annual event, designed to get them positive press coverage.  The article smells of a desperate NRA hater making up bullshit.
So to clarify, if the article is true you would support removing those board members who tried to remove WLP because of the timing? Worried more about short term press coverage than removing WLP?

ANYTIME is a good time to remove WLP and the cat lady. If they frog marched him off the stage in the middle of an nationally televised live interview with Hannity it would be a good time.

Nothing will change at the NRA until he and his quisling supporters are gone.
Yeah, that points to complete dysfunction on the board if they challenge the appointed leader as they go into their largest public and media event of the year.  What happens if Wayne says F the BoD and doesn't show up for the events he is supposed to be at?  If he was as pissed as the article claims that could happen.  Media everywhere will run headlines about how the NRA is fractured and falling apart.  It would project even more weakness on the NRA. That would cause a decrease in membership and a loss of what little influence they have with the legislators.  No one is going to support an organization that appears to be imploding.  That is also why I think the people here cheering for that to happen are not really on our side.

The BoD needs to change and needs new faces on it.  Change enough of the BoD and they will replace Wayne (during a non-critical time).
Change is kinda hard since the BoD under Wayne changed the rules to block folks from running without the Nominating Committee's approval. Running via petition is not easy.
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I saw Wayne's speech at the last convention and his delivery and he himself looked old.  We need someone who has energy and passion to not give that inch.

He actually looked like he had dementia to me. We need a smart fire pisser to get in there with passion to fight.
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His last speech was a best of album. It was him playing videos of himself.
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Salma Hayek?

Bitch is ugly.
Salma HeeHaa is more like it.
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LOL. The roo in a Rmoney thread.
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I hope they shit can his ass. They need to get the hell out of New York immediatly also .
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It is 1999 all over again.  I wish Neal Knox had lived to see this.
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Amen to that!
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Adam Kraut for NRA EVP!!!
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Chuck Norris for President of the NRA
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Chuck Norris for President of the NRA
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How about chuck liddell.

Let them dems talk shit to him

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Let's get it done before the election in 2020.
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My personal feelings on this is unless the majority of the BoD backs this. He isn't going anywhere. Especially if the two BoD members that requested he resign are Ackerman McQueen employees. Wayne LaPierre with assistance from Marion Hammer csn spin this as an attempted coup by Ackerman McQueen, an outsider.
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My personal feelings on this is unless the majority of the BoD backs this. He isn't going anywhere. Especially if the two BoD members that requested he resign are Ackerman McQueen employees. Wayne LaPierre with assistance from Marion Hammer csn spin this as an attempted coup by Ackerman McQueen, an outsider.
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The fact that they have 2 BOD members who work for AM says all I need to know about the corruption inside the NRA.
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This! Hoping this is 150% legit!!!
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This.
If the question involves Salma Hayek, the answer is ALWAYS Salma Hayek.
Op should be punched in the dick for misspelling her name.
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The fact that they have 2 BOD members who work for AM says all I need to know about the corruption inside the NRA.
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My personal feelings on this is unless the majority of the BoD backs this. He isn't going anywhere. Especially if the two BoD members that requested he resign are Ackerman McQueen employees. Wayne LaPierre with assistance from Marion Hammer csn spin this as an attempted coup by Ackerman McQueen, an outsider.
The fact that they have 2 BOD members who work for AM says all I need to know about the corruption inside the NRA.
Col. Oliver North is technically an employee of Ackerman McQueen. Hell, Colin Noir and Dana Loesch are Ackerman McQueen employees and they're the public face of the NRA at the moment.

Back in 1997, Wayne LaPierre's wife was a subcontracted employee of Ackerman McQueen through her business Mercury Group.

Wayne defended Ackerman McQueen in 1997 and they backed him. He is was pretty much them. So something has changed bigtime. He literally is biting the hand thst feeds him.
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Col. Oliver North is technically an employee of Ackerman McQueen. Hell, Colin Noir and Dana Loesch are Ackerman McQueen employees and they're the public face of the NRA at the moment.

Back in 1997, Wayne LaPierre's was a subcontracted employee of Ackerman McQueen through her business Mercury Group.

Wayne defended Ackerman McQueen in 1997 and they backed him. He is was pretty much them. So something has changed bigtime. He literally is biting the hand thst feeds him.
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What more proof do we need that they are completely disingenuous blowhards?

Granted, Dana could blow me hard all day and I wouldn't complain.
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Col. Oliver North is technically an employee of Ackerman McQueen. Hell, Colin Noir and Dana Loesch are Ackerman McQueen employees and they're the public face of the NRA at the moment.

Back in 1997, Wayne LaPierre's was a subcontracted employee of Ackerman McQueen through her business Mercury Group.

Wayne defended Ackerman McQueen in 1997 and they backed him. He is was pretty much them. So something has changed bigtime. He literally is biting the hand thst feeds him.
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We’re the hand that feeds him

I knew something was up when the Wayne needs you to whoever it is now.

I hang up before they get any further
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We're the hand that feeds him

I knew something was up when the Wayne needs you to whoever it is now.

I hang up before they get any further
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Col. Oliver North is technically an employee of Ackerman McQueen. Hell, Colin Noir and Dana Loesch are Ackerman McQueen employees and they're the public face of the NRA at the moment.

Back in 1997, Wayne LaPierre's was a subcontracted employee of Ackerman McQueen through her business Mercury Group.

Wayne defended Ackerman McQueen in 1997 and they backed him. He is was pretty much them. So something has changed bigtime. He literally is biting the hand thst feeds him.
We're the hand that feeds him

I knew something was up when the Wayne needs you to whoever it is now.

I hang up before they get any further
Wayne if kept in power because Ackerman McQueen backed him and used their massive PR presence to project him positively to the membership.
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The main issue is that you have an organization who's sole monies basically come from, membership dues, estates, WILLS, donations, sales of some items ect...ect....ect...

Then you have this organization's top OFFICIALS being paid Exorbitant salaries.

Plus the perks of all expenses paid of wining and dining people.

All using the money of the PEOPLES ORGANIZATION AS IF IT WERE THEIR OWN PRIVATE BANK ACCOUNT.

Top officials like LaPierre being paid I believe upwards of FIVE MILLION A YEAR PLUS PERKS add the income of other top leaders and this adds up to MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF MEMBERS MONEY.

Now do not take me wrong. I believe that if you run a NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION LIKE THE NRA THAT RELIES BASICALLY ON MEMBERSHIP DUES AND DONATIONS.

That it's leaders hired or elected to run the organization should be paid a fair salary.

But come on this amount of money these people are getting is akin to raping a NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION LIKE THE NRA.

THEN TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY. WE GET LETTERS STATING THAT THE NRA IS IN DIRE NEED OF MONEY/DONATIONS TO KEEP AFLOAT.

REALLY.....THE TOP LEADERSHIP IS TAKING MILLIONS IN SALARY AND I DO MEAN IT ADDS UP TO MILLIONS. THEN THEY DARE SAY THE SHIP IS SINKING.

IT'S MORE ABOUT MONEY TO THEM THAN DOING ANYTHING FOR THE PEOPLE.

THE NRA IS THE PEOPLE AND WE SEE WHAT'S GOING ON NOW WITH THESE CORRUPTED LEADERS.
THAT COULD CARE LESS ABOUT PROTECTING ANYTHING.

THEY ARE JUST LIKE AL SHARPTON AND JESSE JACKSON. THEY KEEP THE TERROR ALIVE TO KEEP THE FLOW OF MONEY COMING IN TO SUPPORT THEIR LIFE STYLE.

NOT LITIGATE LAWS THAT WOULD PROTECT OUR RIGHTS. SURE THEY DO LITTLE THINGS. TAKE CREDIT FOR THINGS THEY GOT A TOE IN THE DOOR ON. BUT JUST ENOUGH AND NEVER ENOUGH.

The leaders have to keep that fear ever present. So they have a real and present danger. To shove into our faces when asking for money to pay those hugh salaries.

The corruption runs deep in the NRA AND IT MUST BE TAKEN CARE OF. LITTLE CESAR (LaPierre) MUST GO.

Since when does one person have so much control of the NRA that they cannot be fired if the BOD and the members feel he's NOT WORTHY TO REPRESENT THE VALUES OF THE MEMBERS ANY LONGER.

The NRA IS NOT WAYNE LaPierre, THE CARD CARRYING MEMBERS ARE THE NRA.

BUT CAESAR SOME HOW BELIEVES THAT HE IS THE ABSOLUTE RULER OF THE NRA.

CAESAR DOES NOT WANT TO GIVE UP THE POWER AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT COMES WITH SITTING THE THRONE.

CAESAR HAS BECOME AS CORRUPT AS THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS PARTY.

THE NRA CANNOT AND WILL NOT CONTINUE TO EXIST AS LONG AS LaPierre IS IN OFFICE. LaPierre WILL DESTROY THE NRA.

LaPierre ONLY INTEREST IS IN GETTING AS MUCH MONEY OUT OF THE NRA BEFORE HE SINKS THIS GREAT ORGANIZATION.

IT'S TIME FOR A NEW BEGINNING, A REBIRTH, A REAWAKENING OF THE NRA.

THIS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRUELY THE NRA WANT. YOU, ME AND ALL OF AMERICA.

NO ONE MAN SHOULD EVER BELIEVE THAT HE IS THE NRA SUCH AS LaPierre BELIEVES HE IS.

LaPierre MUST GO SO THE NRA CAN THRIVE AND ONCE AGAIN BECOME POWERFUL AS IT ONCE WAS.

NOT LAUGHED AT BY THESE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS CALLING US HAS BEENS.

How can LaPierre or anyone else call it a coup for getting rid of someone for their inability to do their job. Plus down sizing an organization and salaries.

LaPierre again is only interested in title and money. Again to see what these idiots get paid and then get mail saying they need money/donations to stay afloat is laughable and disgusting.

These fools are living like royalty off of donated dollars to protect our rights. Living in mansions on donated NRA MEMBERSHIP money.

This is not a mega church
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