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This war isn't going to end anytime soon

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That's how wars work.

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Put yourself in their shoes. How much of your country would you cede to an aggressor state, on their condition of ceasefire?

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How would the Putin supporters feel if Russia promised peace with us after invading California and controlling it?

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But why would they?  They seem to have the resources to continue pushing further. The Ukes are barely holding on. Some times you have to swallow your pride. If they care about saving lives they would enter these talks. But they aren't, it's about money. The gravy train ends of fighting ends.

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Did not expect Putin to blink first.  No a good sign for old pooty poo.

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The Russians started this war with T-80's and BMP-3's and now they're leading attacks on trenches with T-62's with inoperative turrets, trucks with hillbilly armor, Chinese golf carts, and dirt bikes covered with chicken wire.  They're keeping their guns firing using ammo rejected by North Korean QC with a CEP measured in kilometers.  Yes, the Ukrainians are stretched very thin, but the Russians are also scraping the bottom of the barrel.

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Unless he was telling the truth the whole time.  His intentions stated before this and to today is that he won't tolerate Ukraine becoming a NATO state on his border having a hostile force not only surrounding Russia with weapons aimed at them but cutting off access to the sea.  

It's not unreasonable.  Wed do the exact same if a hostile coalition trying to move into Mexico or Canada

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Hard to believe that so many American supposed-conservatives would be such cucks for Russia.

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FVP basically said Ukraine must first surrender their sovereignty then I will be ready to talk about peace, which is bullshit.

Yet many will lap it up as "benevolent Putin is ready for peace." Hell, just looks at OPs title.

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So we would rather not have peace?

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Here we see the Russia and genocide supporters lying through their fucking teeth to make it look like Putin is offering an olive branch.

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It amazes me that if it is said that our country needs to stop spending money on this shit, immediately out of the wood work comes members here calling us Putin puffers. That is some lil bitch ass crybaby shit. My only question is how long and how much more should we spend of our money for this? Give me a timeframe and amount please

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Seriously, would you pro-cease fire guys trust Russia's word about anything?

Especially after they raped, killed and maimed your family members and neighbors?

No, you wouldn't, but you are so wrapped up in your Anti-Ukraine rhetoric that you can no longer be rational.

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daily reminder that this retard thought he was going to walk into kyiv

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If it wasn’t for the rest of the world helping Ukraine, he would’ve.

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It is an old communist ploy to take a breather, rearm, and regroup.

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Zelensky should have sat down and held talks the last time this offer was made. Instead Uniparty Boris Johnson stuck his nose into it and screwed it all up. How many thousands on each side have died since then?

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Things that aren't true are often hard to believe. American conservatives put America first.
Not Ukraine OR Russia.

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It is an old communist ploy to take a breather, rearm, and regroup.

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Vladimir Putin has announced he will call a ceasefire and immediately enter peace talks if Ukraine is willing to pull back its troops from four regions occupied by Russian forces and give up plans to make a NATO membership bid.

'We will (call a ceasefire) immediately,' Putin said in a speech at the Russian Foreign Ministry this morning, adding his proposal is aimed at a 'final resolution' of the conflict and that the Kremlin is 'ready to start negotiations without delay'.

But the declaration, which comes on the eve of a two-day conference in Switzerland dedicated to building a 'road map' to peace in Ukraine, is seen as a non-starter in Kyiv.


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Putin's forces are also making gains across the border in the north-eastern region of Kharkiv - though his troops previously abandoned large swathes of territory in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia following Ukrainian counterattacks.

In the same speech this morning, the Russian president engaged in yet more sabre-rattling, claiming Western leaders are pushing him towards 'the point of no return' over a nuclear World War Three.

'We have come unacceptably close to the point of no return... Calls to inflict a strategic defeat on Russia, which possesses the largest arsenal of nuclear weapons demonstrate the extreme recklessness of Western politicians,' Putin declared.

'They either do not understand the scale of the threat they are creating - or are simply obsessed with their own sense of impunity and exceptionalism.

'Both can lead to tragedy,' he concluded sternly.




Putin's unexpected remarks today came as leaders of the G7 leaders met in Italy and as Switzerland prepared to host scores of world leaders for its peace conference in Lucerne.

The Kremlin chief said he did not want to 'freeze' the conflict and instead was pushing for a final resolution that would see an end to hostilities.

Broader demands for peace that the Russian leader listed included Ukraine's non-nuclear status, restrictions on its military force and protecting the interests of the Russian-speaking population in the country.


'We're urging to turn this tragic page of history and to begin restoring, step-by-step, restore the unity between Russia and Ukraine and in Europe in general,' he said in remarks representing a rare occasion in which he clearly laid out his conditions for the end of the war.


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