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Quoted: No work pics on the dead guys gram, unless he works in a car wash. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/857/IMG_0895_png-3221515.JPG View Quote This changes the equation somewhat. I'm currently within the Good/Preemptive Shoot camp but we'll see. |
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Quoted: And they need a translator to talk to the other employees? So we have a bunch of foreigners working for a contractor that works on our electrical infrastructure. Did I get that right? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Daraev did not have any utility equipment, utility clothing or identification during the time of the shooting Sounds suspicious. Also, why do they need translators? And they need a translator to talk to the other employees? So we have a bunch of foreigners working for a contractor that works on our electrical infrastructure. Did I get that right? Sorta sounds that way |
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Quoted: Not too long ago you’d just have a slightly overweight middle aged white dude in a hard hat and polo come inspect your power or utility lines. Now you’ve got some illegal jabbering at you in a different language acting like an asshole and taking pictures. That probably would have flown with anyone else EXCEPT someone highly trained and not really keen on being photographed by foreigners. View Quote Agreed. I had some guy a few years ago doing the same thing. Taking photos of the house, walking the yard, middle of a weekday. Was suprised when I popped up behind him (CCW on). Turns out he was an appraiser and looking at comparable, recently sold houses. Showed me the houses he'd looked at and the one for sale. I hadn't realized appraisers did that, but was totally fine. So, yeah, I can see people doing sketchy things for legit reasons.... and not. |
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Quoted: No work pics on the dead guys gram, unless he works in a car wash. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/857/IMG_0895_png-3221515.JPG View Quote Makes you go hmmm |
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If a plain clothes overt American was taking photos near Mohammed’s house in Kerblackistan, I would expect much the same response.
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I'm at the point where if you weren't born here, to parents that were born here, I honestly don't care what happens to you. Even if you were born here, there's still only a 25% chance that I care what happens to you.
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Quoted: Interesting pic of the AK Makes you go hmmm View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: No work pics on the dead guys gram, unless he works in a car wash. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/857/IMG_0895_png-3221515.JPG Makes you go hmmm If anyone has the gram app dig thru there. I only got the front page. |
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Certainly sounds hinky, but if it was just some random foreign utility worker (why do we have those? Are those a thing now, since apparently his entire crew must be foreign?) doing contract labor surveying lines or property, he's going to get fucked.
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Quoted: I found a foreign guy in my backyard a few months back. No identification, vest, etc. He had climbed over my fence and was fucking with the cable box. I yelled, he ran. Called the cable company later and they confirmed he's one of their contractors. They said that standard procedure would be for him to knock and notify, but of course he spoke no English. View Quote I would be canceling my cable over that shit. |
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It really sounds like a delta guy killed a jihadi turd that was sneaking around at his home and taking pictures.
If it was anyone else in "socom" they would have released his identify by now or more details about him. If this was a Clancy book, it would have been the son of some chechan warlord the dude killed in a raid years ago that somehow tracked him down after all this time and was looking for revenge. Or something. |
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250’ from the right of way doesn’t necessarily mean shit if Mr Dead was within the utility easement (which I am assuming exists if a power line crosses Mr SOCOM’s property)
Still, giving the benefit of the doubt to the American here. |
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Quoted: Best I can tell, there have been zero facts presented. Just as an example, where exactly did the shooting occur? Where dude was found doesn't mean that's where he was shot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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If we ship them all back to Kablamistan, many, many problems will be solved.
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Not being racist or whatever-phobic but with a name like that, with no uniform or ID or equipment visible and taking photos around a SOCOM members’ home isn’t the brightest idea in this day and age, and that homeowner may have had articulable reasons to consider such actions to constitute a threat. Unfortunate situation all the way around.
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Doesn’t necessarily mean anything, but if the approximate location of the shooting is accurate per the local news, there is a small regional airfield right there as well.
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Quoted: 250’ from the right of way doesn’t necessarily mean shit if Mr Dead was within the utility easement (which I am assuming exists if a power line crosses Mr SOCOM’s property) Still, giving the benefit of the doubt to the American here. View Quote If that means 250' outside of the utility right of way, there will not likely be charges. Mr dead might have thought he had a right he did not have. |
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Nearly 3 weeks ago, no updates since?
Suspicious as hell dead guy? SOCOM soldier? Pics of krink AK on dead guys photos? Yeah, leaning towards someone up to no good that got discovered for once…. More details would be interesting. |
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Quoted: If that means 250' outside of the utility right of way, there will not likely be charges. Mr dead might have thought he had a right he did not have. View Quote article reads 250 yards. But it doesn't clarify if that was where he was shot, or if that is where he ended up after being shot and running. |
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Quoted: If that means 250' outside of the utility right of way, there will not likely be charges. Mr dead might have thought he had a right he did not have. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: 250’ from the right of way doesn’t necessarily mean shit if Mr Dead was within the utility easement (which I am assuming exists if a power line crosses Mr SOCOM’s property) Still, giving the benefit of the doubt to the American here. If that means 250' outside of the utility right of way, there will not likely be charges. Mr dead might have thought he had a right he did not have. Indeed. |
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Quoted: article reads 250 yards. But it doesn't clarify if that was where he was shot, or if that is where he ended up after being shot and running. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If that means 250' outside of the utility right of way, there will not likely be charges. Mr dead might have thought he had a right he did not have. article reads 250 yards. But it doesn't clarify if that was where he was shot, or if that is where he ended up after being shot and running. Oh, duh. I bungled that one. RIF |
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So Islamic dude in plain clothes trespassing and taking photos on a SOC dudes property gets uppity when confronted and then deaded. Failing to see the issue here.
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250 yards from the roadway, along a powerline on the residential property. View Quote Uh oh |
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Quoted: Sounds suspicious. Also, why do they need translators? View Quote There was blurb on the news about the bridge collapse I mentioned here. All of the workers on the bridge were from out of the country. Something screwy is definitely going on. I don't know what so I won't apply any kind of theory to it. But there seems to be more reports involving workers from other countries doing work for government services in ways that I've just have never heard of before. |
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Quoted: There was blurb on the news about the bridge collapse I mentioned here. All of the workers on the bridge were from out of the country. Something screwy is definitely going on. I don't know what so I won't apply any kind of theory to it. But there seems to be more reports involving workers from other countries doing work for government services in ways that I've just have never heard of before. View Quote |
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Quoted: Lol. I had lunch delivered to a customer earlier this week. I got a call from the Uber Eats driver and we couldn’t even have a conversation because the guy’s English was so damn bad. I applaud the guy for working, but you should be required to speak the native language if you’re doing that job…or any job where you have to speak with people View Quote My wife recently had a DoorDash driver message her completely in Spanish. From what she translated, the driver was pulled-over by the policia and wouldn't be able to make the delivery. |
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Quoted: No work pics on the dead guys gram, unless he works in a car wash. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/857/IMG_0895_png-3221515.JPG View Quote lol I don't think you have the right guy. |
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Quoted: So he killed a Chechen/Dagstani/person from that general region that probably shouldn't have been allowed into this country anyway. Not really seeing the problem. View Quote Found it interesting the feds got involved to translate interviews with other utility workers. Wonder if they got a cell hired into the local utility and they were in recon phase. |
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I give the benefit of the doubt to our SF folks. Good shoot unless proven otherwise.
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Quoted: Not being racist or whatever-phobic but with a name like that, with no uniform or ID or equipment visible and taking photos around a SOCOM members’ home isn’t the brightest idea in this day and age, and that homeowner may have had articulable reasons to consider such actions to constitute a threat. Unfortunate situation all the way around. View Quote Counterpoint, this is the time of year that utilities are doing a lot of preventative tree work. Could he have been (or was his cover, in the more interesting case) simply surveying along the easement? Utility easements run all over the place. Remember that that big transformer sabotage that made the news years back happened around there as well. |
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Quoted: My wife recently had a DoorDash driver message her completely in Spanish. From what she translated, the driver was pulled-over by the policia and wouldn't be able to make the delivery. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Lol. I had lunch delivered to a customer earlier this week. I got a call from the Uber Eats driver and we couldn’t even have a conversation because the guy’s English was so damn bad. I applaud the guy for working, but you should be required to speak the native language if you’re doing that job…or any job where you have to speak with people My wife recently had a DoorDash driver message her completely in Spanish. From what she translated, the driver was pulled-over by the policia and wouldn't be able to make the delivery. Necesito una tarjeta de regalo de Hon Dipo para el caución |
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It's obviously not a foreign terrorist.
They check for those guys at the border. |
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Quoted: No work pics on the dead guys gram, unless he works in a car wash. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/857/IMG_0895_png-3221515.JPG View Quote I wonder that AK was found in his car. |
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Disregard. Incorrect photo Ramzan Daraev photo found on Change.org |
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Quoted: Interesting. Foreign workers working on critical infrastructure. What could go wrong? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: There was blurb on the news about the bridge collapse I mentioned here. All of the workers on the bridge were from out of the country. Something screwy is definitely going on. I don't know what so I won't apply any kind of theory to it. But there seems to be more reports involving workers from other countries doing work for government services in ways that I've just have never heard of before. Ya the whole idea is just silly enough that it sounds like some sort of crackpot theory. But based on this story, and the one I mentioned. It looks like a lot of areas are using contracting companies that exclusively hire foreigners possibly with visas. |
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