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Posted: 5/24/2024 7:07:00 AM EDT
[#1]
Do these type of guys get Briefings? Like local places to avoid or bolo? I have neighbors stationed at the three local airbases they tell me they get occasional briefings on similar stuff.
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Posted: 5/24/2024 7:36:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This changes the equation somewhat. I'm currently within the Good/Preemptive Shoot camp but we'll see. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 7:39:33 AM EDT
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I wasn't there so I dunno. Seems really suspicious. We'll never know if this guy was up to some nefarious shit. My random ass guess, wrong place/wrong time/wrong people/didn't know no better/got turned into a hashtag.
The deceased was a subcontractor for the utility company, but he had no gear or ID with him, he wasn't in a uniform, and someone else had called 911 because dude was taking pictures and being belligerent towards other residents. People who like "justice for Daraev!!!11!" claim he was there taking pictures of work he had previously completed. Okay, sure, I guess, seems weird that he'd do that just randomly in street clothes and honestly if true, that's probably what got him got. He ain't from here so he probably didn't understand that if you're in a neighborhood, taking pictures of people's homes, you look really fucking suspicious and you're probably going to get some static for it. He wasn't identifiable (no service truck, no uniform) and from what I can find on the Google he didn't identify himself, probably couldn't, I'm assuming he didn't speak English or if he did it wasn't very good English. He could legit be a utility guy following up on some work he did a couple days ago, or he could be planning a home invasion, the people in that neighborhood don't know. Being that he ain't from 'round here, he also doesn't understand how to behave around other people in America (that's probably where the "became aggressive towards another resident" thing came from, someone asked him "what are you doing" and he was like suka-blyat-something-something and flipped the other guy off). He also did this close by a military town/county, where some really switched-on, Type A personality type dudes reside, guys who are a little more wary and cognizant than your average citizen who's going on about their day. So I'm gonna go with he fucked around and found out. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 7:39:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You thinkin he checked the guy's Insta before shooting him? The Instaposting can provide context and insight into what sort of interaction may have happened that weren't included in the article. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 7:45:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wasn't there so I dunno. Seems really suspicious. We'll never know if this guy was up to some nefarious shit. My random ass guess, wrong place/wrong time/wrong people/didn't know no better/got turned into a hashtag. The deceased was a subcontractor for the utility company, but he had no gear or ID with him, he wasn't in a uniform, and someone else had called 911 because dude was taking pictures and being belligerent towards other residents. People who like "justice for Daraev!!!11!" claim he was there taking pictures of work he had previously completed. Okay, sure, I guess, seems weird that he'd do that just randomly in street clothes and honestly if true, that's probably what got him got. He ain't from here so he probably didn't understand that if you're in a neighborhood, taking pictures of people's homes, you look really fucking suspicious and you're probably going to get some static for it. He wasn't identifiable (no service truck, no uniform) and from what I can find on the Google he didn't identify himself, probably couldn't, I'm assuming he didn't speak English or if he did it wasn't very good English. He could legit be a utility guy following up on some work he did a couple days ago, or he could be planning a home invasion, the people in that neighborhood don't know. Being that he ain't from 'round here, he also doesn't understand how to behave around other people in America (that's probably where the "became aggressive towards another resident" thing came from, someone asked him "what are you doing" and he was like suka-blyat-something-something and flipped the other guy off). He also did this close by a military town/county, where some really switched-on, Type A personality type dudes reside, guys who are a little more wary and cognizant than your average citizen who's going on about their day. So I'm gonna go with he fucked around and found out. Yeah I'm reasonably certain that the going around and taking photos in residential neighborhoods thing is considered weird in Chechnya where he's from, and in Chicago where the article suggests he resided. I have spent about 2 months in the Caucasus, but not been to Chechnya though so maybe I'm out of touch on that. That also suggests that the actual utilities work he did was in the Chicago area, which is a fairly long drive from where he met his demise. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 7:46:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: " Former colonel" |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 7:56:22 AM EDT
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SF dude? Might have spoken the language, and deaded might have been saying something that he didn't think anyone else would understand. Powerline guy might've been saying things about what they were really doing there.
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Posted: 5/24/2024 8:04:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do they need a translator to talk to members of the "utility company" the guy with a funny name from Chicago allegedly works for? I feel like there is more going on here than what is reported. Trespassing. Taking pictures of a special ops guys home/property. Out of state residence. Out of state company. No ID on him to prove who he was or what he was doing there. No prior communication with the landowner to let them know someone would be coming around to take pictures and why. Becoming combative/aggressive when spotted/confronted by the landowner. Yeah, long string of funny things. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 8:06:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude's lucky he didn't run into the Colonel's wife. That would have been a whole other ordeal, lol. I can hear her now, "Do you know who my husband is?" |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 8:07:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Utility companies schedule employees in the field via work orders, and it’s possible dead guy was running behind schedule trying to finish up for the day. It’s also very possible dead guy was collecting information on a (for them) HVT for execution of an attack at a later date. Every SF soldier past and present I’ve worked or met with has been solid. Are they human, and capable of bad judgment like the rest of us? Sure, but until proven otherwise, Green Beret gets the benefit of the doubt. Of course, none of this would be an issue if we had sane immigration policies and a secure border.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 8:09:27 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a weird one. Some SF guy shooting a utility worker is weird. Some Chechen 5th columnist risking getting burned in some half assed backyard inspection of a SF guys house is also weird, compared to literally any other activity a 5th columnist could be up to in the US. Being ready to attack a large number of current and former experienced SF members and officers would be pretty high on my checklist if I was an enemy who was preparing to engage in something far more aggressive and widespread on our soil than shooting up some critical infrastructure Odds are that John Q Public will never be told the whole story or what kind of intelligence we have about such activities |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 8:27:39 AM EDT
[#12]
Army dude probably fucked
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Posted: 5/24/2024 8:43:10 AM EDT
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More info:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/mysterious-shooting-army-special-forces-residence-north-carolina-raises-questions Two Chechen men who spoke broken English were found near the soldier's home. The family alleges the suspected intruder, 35-year-old Ramzan Daraev of Chicago was taking photos of their children. When confronted near a power line in a wooded part of the property, an altercation ensued and Daraev was shot several times at close range. A second man, Dzhankutov Adsalan, was in a vehicle some distance from the incident and was questioned by authorities and then released. The Moore County Sheriff's office is leading the investigation. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 8:44:15 AM EDT
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With 1.6 million invaders getting through the border free and clear in the past three years, it's hard to give a foreign stranger casing your property the benefit of the doubt in 2024.
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Posted: 5/24/2024 8:56:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Power company hires some poor English speaking dude who stumbles across soldier. Soldier thinks "wtf is going on with this odd foreign guy it's a trap!" POW POW -oops off to jail. Why do the conspiracies not make sense? Why do unknown bad guys care about this soldier to launch an eleborate movie style plot? If they are after this guy why bother getting a guy into the power line company-which he did really work for but then-spy doesn't bother to wear work clothes consistent with his cover? Why bother getting a lone guy a cover job with the power company v just sending 5 guys in camo? If this is a big plot that still doesn't explain the soldier killing an unarmed guy who presumably didn't fight him. Wouldn't the soldier capture him? The lone guy ran away and the soldier thought he was escaping? You left out the part where he just came to America for a better life and to serve on the front lines of the climate crisis working for the utility company and he was working late because he spends much of his time doing community outreach work and learning English. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:05:08 AM EDT
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My expectation at this point is the special operations guy is probably one of the many who has spent time "advising" in Ukraine and his ID was sold to the Russians.
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:07:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My expectation at this point is the special operations guy is probably one of the many who has spent time "advising" in Ukraine and his ID was sold to the Russians. That or he's one of the far, far more who spent time fighting jihadis, including Chechens, in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:10:26 AM EDT
[#18]
Back when I painted houses in the ville, one of the properties had 10 penny nails driven outward through the whole front door at about a 3” spacing.
The soldier that rented the place got tired of people knocking. It’s an interesting area. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:15:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Back when I painted houses in the ville, one of the properties had 10 penny nails driven outward through the whole front door at about a 3” spacing. The soldier that rented the place got tired of people knocking. It’s an interesting area. Moore County is the other side of base, by Camp Mackall. Not Fayettenam |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:18:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With 1.6 million invaders getting through the border free and clear in the past three years, it's hard to give a foreign stranger casing your property the benefit of the doubt in 2024. LOL, we wish it was that few. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:23:29 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Something sure seems odd about the whole situation. A good fiction writer could make a plausible plot line about foreign actors doing recon for a future hit on special ops members. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I feel like there's more to this story somewhere Or the general population:  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:28:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because lots of GDers are cuckoo and want everything to be a conspiracy theory. They also want an excuse to shoot people like this guy did. Now he’s going to prison. Real smart. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Power company hires some poor English speaking dude who stumbles across soldier. Soldier thinks "wtf is going on with this odd foreign guy it's a trap!" POW POW -oops off to jail. Why do the conspiracies not make sense? Why do unknown bad guys care about this soldier to launch an eleborate movie style plot? If they are after this guy why bother getting a guy into the power line company-which he did really work for but then-spy doesn't bother to wear work clothes consistent with his cover? Why bother getting a lone guy a cover job with the power company v just sending 5 guys in camo? If this is a big plot that still doesn't explain the soldier killing an unarmed guy who presumably didn't fight him. Wouldn't the soldier capture him? The lone guy ran away and the soldier thought he was escaping? Because lots of GDers are cuckoo and want everything to be a conspiracy theory. They also want an excuse to shoot people like this guy did. Now he’s going to prison. Real smart. lol While I'll agree that I think it isn't a Tom Clancy conspiracy deal like so many here do. I don't think the shooter will see jail time. If there aren't any witnesses or video surveillance, it's basically a he said situation. The other party is dead and died before telling his side of the story. Granted we don't have a lot of info on what happened, but shooter stumbles across a suspicious person, an argument occurs, suspicious person doesn't have any work identification, the shooter could say the dead guy was probably going to go hands on and for his safety shot him in self defense. I'd be really surprised if the shooter actually gets convicted. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:34:24 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Instaposting can provide context and insight into what sort of interaction may have happened that weren't included in the article. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You thinkin he checked the guy's Insta before shooting him? The Instaposting can provide context and insight into what sort of interaction may have happened that weren't included in the article. lol The natural arf detectives posted the instagram of some random dude in Russia. Wrong guy. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:37:15 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol While I'll agree that I think it isn't a Tom Clancy conspiracy deal like so many here do. I don't think the shooter will see jail time. If there aren't any witnesses or video surveillance, it's basically a he said situation. The other party is dead and died before telling his side of the story. Granted we don't have a lot of info on what happened, but shooter stumbles across a suspicious person, an argument occurs, suspicious person doesn't have any work identification, the shooter could say the dead guy was probably going to go hands on and for his safety shot him in self defense. I'd be really surprised if the shooter actually gets convicted. If you disregard what the leftist in power are doing on a grand scheme, it’s an isolated incident. If you take into account the panoply of actions, it’s Clancy’s best work. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:39:07 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "shot multiple times"? yeah it was a 9mm.  For SURE |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:40:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Army dude probably fucked Only if the prosecutor gets a dream jury. Kharn |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:43:21 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Being ready to attack a large number of current and former experienced SF members and officers would be pretty high on my checklist if I was an enemy who was preparing to engage in something far more aggressive and widespread on our soil than shooting up some critical infrastructure Odds are that John Q Public will never be told the whole story or what kind of intelligence we have about such activities Attacking key infrastructure would be exponentially more effective at disrupting things and causing chaos compared to attacking service members. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:46:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That or he's one of the far, far more who spent time fighting jihadis, including Chechens, in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere. You would think if they went through all that effort they could find a dude with better technical skills than this guy taking blatant pictures on the dudes land and getting caught. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:46:19 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With 16 million invaders getting through the border free and clear in the past three years, it's hard to give a foreign stranger casing your property the benefit of the doubt in 2024. Your number was off by orders of magnitude. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:56:23 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Power company hires some poor English speaking dude who stumbles across soldier. Soldier thinks "wtf is going on with this odd foreign guy it's a trap!" POW POW -oops off to jail. Why do the conspiracies not make sense? Why do unknown bad guys care about this soldier to launch an eleborate movie style plot? If they are after this guy why bother getting a guy into the power line company-which he did really work for but then-spy doesn't bother to wear work clothes consistent with his cover? Why bother getting a lone guy a cover job with the power company v just sending 5 guys in camo? If this is a big plot that still doesn't explain the soldier killing an unarmed guy who presumably didn't fight him. Wouldn't the soldier capture him? The lone guy ran away and the soldier thought he was escaping?  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:57:16 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you disregard what the leftist in power are doing on a grand scheme, it’s an isolated incident. If you take into account the panoply of actions, it’s Clancy’s best work. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol While I'll agree that I think it isn't a Tom Clancy conspiracy deal like so many here do. I don't think the shooter will see jail time. If there aren't any witnesses or video surveillance, it's basically a he said situation. The other party is dead and died before telling his side of the story. Granted we don't have a lot of info on what happened, but shooter stumbles across a suspicious person, an argument occurs, suspicious person doesn't have any work identification, the shooter could say the dead guy was probably going to go hands on and for his safety shot him in self defense. I'd be really surprised if the shooter actually gets convicted. If you disregard what the leftist in power are doing on a grand scheme, it’s an isolated incident. If you take into account the panoply of actions, it’s Clancy’s best work. I don't disregard what the leftists are doing, but it very well could be an isolated incident. That's why I'm not jumping to conclusions, and waiting to see what comes of this. Now that it's going viral, there's a higher chance that we'll get more info as time passes. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:58:52 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Attacking key infrastructure would be exponentially more effective at disrupting things and causing chaos compared to attacking service members. Like this? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore_County_substation_attack |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:02:28 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Like this? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore_County_substation_attack Ya exactly. That would affect a hell of a lot more people than attacking some SF member. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:02:36 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You would think if they went through all that effort they could find a dude with better technical skills than this guy taking blatant pictures on the dudes land and getting caught. You would think so, but then again some of the 9/11 hijackers while attending flight school in the U.S. stated that they didnt need to learn how to land a plane. These aren't always the sharpest tools in the shed, they just have to get lucky. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:03:46 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't disregard what the leftists are doing, but it very well could be an isolated incident. That's why I'm not jumping to conclusions, and waiting to see what comes of this. Now that it's going viral, there's a higher chance that we'll get more info as time passes. You're not going to get any more information than they want you to get. If in fact this is enemy action you are 100% guaranmotherfuckingteed it will be kicked under the rug. It's an election year, things aren't going well for the central government, there is no circumstance under which they will tell you the truth. None. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:08:11 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistorySo dead guy was a Commie pedo who was trying to abduct the USASOC guys kids? |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:09:35 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You left out the part where he just came to America for a better life and to serve on the front lines of the climate crisis working for the utility company and he was working late because he spends much of his time doing community outreach work and learning English. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:22:30 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Only if the prosecutor gets a dream jury. Kharn Dude will be found not guilty by supper. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:23:55 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So dead guy was a Commie pedo who was trying to abduct the USASOC guys kids? Protecting America at home and abroad. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:27:51 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude isn't getting prosecuted in Moore county for slaying a Commie. Dude will be found not guilty by supper. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Only if the prosecutor gets a dream jury. Kharn Dude will be found not guilty by supper. But only because this Caucasian man 
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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:29:19 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya exactly. That would affect a hell of a lot more people than attacking some SF member. 2 years apart, but they appear to be "getting both." It's got to be a hell of a thing focusing on work when you're wondering if you're family will still be there when you get home. Of course, nothing is ever happening when you ignore everything that's happening. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:38:49 AM EDT
[#42]
I live quietly out in the woods. Only one way in or out. If someone shows up here taking photos and such with no ID, no banner sign on vehicle, no uniform, and is of military age and doesn't speak English to convince me what he's doing here is valid then he will stand a very good chance of seeing my unfriendly side. I will have a gun on him immediately. The rest is up to him.
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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:39:18 AM EDT
[#43]
Some of you all read too much Tom Clancy, and I bet the world is very interesting through your eyes, and I’m jealous of that.
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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:45:03 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude isn't getting prosecuted in Moore county for slaying a Commie. Dude will be found not guilty by supper. Attached File |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:52:15 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted:  I would bet my last dollar that's against company policy, in addition to a stupid idea, for reasons this entire post exists. I mean, I do that type of work all the time, do you? |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:59:02 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of you all read too much Tom Clancy, and I bet the world is very interesting through your eyes, and I'm jealous of that. So members of our armed forces have never been warned about reprisal attacks on home soil by foreign actors? That's not Tom Clancy shit. SOCOM had a massive data breach last year. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:59:52 AM EDT
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I don't understand why...but my cable company sent a "tech" that was arab and was unable to speak basic english. He tried to explain that he was living in a local hotel because the cable company moved him from NJ to another state for 6 months or something similar...and that the company moves technicians around from hotel to hotel.
It was very odd. He fixed nothing and left after a bunch of phone calls to other people who spoke his language. The next tech that came a few days later was eastern European and he said the same thing...living in a hotel paid for by the company, not from the area, travels to wherever they send him and usually stays for a few months. It seems to be a common business model. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 11:01:26 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistorySo hypothetical situation that I can actually belive. Legit power employee (just breaking company SOP not having his ID and shirt with him, breaking SOP isnt a felony, or anything, just stupid). guy is out taking right of way photos with house in background, OR casing house. Homeowner/SF guy ses this , comes out and says "who are you and what do you want" , guy closes distance because yelling is harder to understand than talking/gesturing. SF guy mentally goes to WTF is this guy trying to come into stabby/pokey/ grapple range and levels gun saying "stop"... power employee doesnt stop (language, or intent we dont know), but closes the distance more and maybe reaches for the CCW arm, stumbles and falls toward guy (in woods, dusk, looking at guy NOT feet). Wouldn't be an unreasonable response for SF guy to fire a couple times(at that range, he ain't missing, he will likely have hollow points, he would understand the difference between FMJ and JHP after that much training id have to think), due to multiple COM hits from quality ammo, end result is power company guy bleeds out. SF guy is a full bird colonel, meaning MINUMUM of college graduate and 18+ years of time in (more likely 20+). Guy is 40+, and having been in the last 20 years meaning multiple trips to sandy places, and lots of high speed lead exposure(at lower ranks that can happen, Colonels arent really "go shoot stuff" troops usually from what i understand; but i bet he can actually navigate DTS..., ) . |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 11:01:31 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of you all read too much Tom Clancy, and I bet the world is very interesting through your eyes, and I’m jealous of that. Reprisal attacks and targeting has happened multiple times. That's not new or Tom Clancy. There are known terrorists with family living in the US and Europe. It's common for terrorists to have relatives in the west. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 11:03:18 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You would think if they went through all that effort they could find a dude with better technical skills than this guy taking blatant pictures on the dudes land and getting caught. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That or he's one of the far, far more who spent time fighting jihadis, including Chechens, in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere. You would think if they went through all that effort they could find a dude with better technical skills than this guy taking blatant pictures on the dudes land and getting caught. IIRC the 9/11 hijackers had visa applications that were half filled out/misspelled. And NOT credit card visas but immigration visas. |
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