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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:42:04 PM EDT
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So he found out about me.
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:43:36 PM EDT
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Even a direct in person encounter could be a very technologically advanced alien, or the system admin of the universe simulation server logging in to have a look around. Just like religious people say you can't disprove god, there's no way he could definitively prove himself either.
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:44:49 PM EDT
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God would have to come talk to me direct to erase my doubts.
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:45:33 PM EDT
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Oh, fuck it, tag.
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:45:42 PM EDT
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So the display of immense power would still not convince you?
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:46:04 PM EDT
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God would have to come talk to me direct to erase my doubts. How could you be sure that you were not dreaming, or hallucinating? |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:47:55 PM EDT
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God would have to come talk to me direct to erase my doubts. This. He'd have to come to earth in the form of a human and do some miracles and stuff. |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:47:58 PM EDT
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Another poll fail! I already believe!
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:48:47 PM EDT
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How do you know it's not just a program in the simulation?
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:50:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:50:37 PM EDT
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God would have to come talk to me direct to erase my doubts. We have loads of evidence and data proving man walked on the surface of the moon. That event happened. It's fact. We have photos, videos, samples, eyewitness testimony, etc; and yet there are still disbelievers. Belief has nothing to do with evidence or the lack of evidence but of the individual person and what they personally believe. |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:50:43 PM EDT
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My wife sure knows God. Always screaming his name when we're together.
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:53:14 PM EDT
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How could you be sure that you were not dreaming, or hallucinating? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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God would have to come talk to me direct to erase my doubts. How could you be sure that you were not dreaming, or hallucinating? The argument against miracles is a tautology. Lewis' treatment of it should've ended this nonsense years ago, and yet it persists (case in point) 
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:55:47 PM EDT
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I'd trust philosophers and theologians more than scientists in this matter.
Let the scientists continue their work on global warming. |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:57:42 PM EDT
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Well op you've opened up another new can of worms for sure. For most of the atheist that will reply, there is nothing that will change them. Sad but true. They will rebuttal with misguided ignorance, avoid answers, and dance around everything thrown at them. They will ignore a large number of scientist that believe there is a God, like we even need scientist to prove it, and then throw a bunch of inane answers from some "Supreme Atheist" at this thread. Good luck to all and God Bless everyone.
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:58:08 PM EDT
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Do we know which particular sect/cult the deity prefers?
As an atheist, it would be awesome if true. Watched the video, "The mind of god" as in a metaphor.
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:58:27 PM EDT
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Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:59:12 PM EDT
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I don't need a scientist to tell me what I already know that God exists. To each their own though.
However, OP had poll failure as there is not an option for believers. |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 5:59:26 PM EDT
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He has never said it is God. That is what religious people are saying. He said he believes we are living in a matrix created by some sort of super intelligence. Just like someone else did recently. Cant recall who the other person was though. Was a thread on it here actually in the last week.
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:00:01 PM EDT
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My wife sure knows God. Always screaming his name when we're together. God damnit Durka-Durka, I said take out the trash! |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:00:54 PM EDT
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As an aside: I find it particularly interesting that almost all liberals are now religious.
Happy ramendon, Liberals! |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:01:21 PM EDT
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God talked to people all the time back during the days of the Bible. They all seemed to be able to get it and understand him.
It is pretty convenient for a religion to have as it's only unforgivable sin is to not believe. You can get a pass on everything else. Kill 106 kids, find God and get forgiveness. Live a life following the teachings of Jesus Christ, yet have doubts as to the reality of his actual immense power...which has never been demonstrated to you personally and you are condemned to live in some sort of "hell". You got to admit, even if you are a hard core believer that it is a pretty convenient part of the whole deal if someone were wanting to make you believe this in order to profit from it in some way. |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:02:04 PM EDT
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This. He'd have to come to earth in the form of a human and do some miracles and stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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God would have to come talk to me direct to erase my doubts. This. He'd have to come to earth in the form of a human and do some miracles and stuff. You mean like Jesus ? |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:05:10 PM EDT
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Let's look at the source, shall we? Site name: GEOPHILOSOPHICAL ASSOCIATION OF ANTHROPOLOGICAL AND CULTURAL STUDIES Site header picture: Some goofy bullshit picture of Aztec ruins to immediately link the mind of the gullible to superstitions Source: Wild eyed Asian who posits his discovery in the form of a question Delivery method: Web video rather than paper with proofs that could be independently verified by outside sources Other featured stories: Isaac Newton’s Lost Alchemy Recipe Rediscovered Yep. Seems legit as hell. Someone get over to the "No One Killed Christ" thread and let them know it's settled. |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:05:15 PM EDT
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His opinion is no more or less valid than the thousands of other scientists who don't believe in god.
Also, we've been told by GDers that scientists are all corrupt liars who only work for grant money, and thus, can't be trusted. Also they are stupid. So why the hell would you believe them? ETA::Also, watching the video, the title of the OP, and the article, are completely wrong. He did not say "definite proof that god exists". Rather, it seemed to me he was talking about god in the abstract sense, he said the "mind of 'god' is superstrings resonating in hyperspace". He did not say it was an intelligence. He did not say we were specifically created. He did not say any of that shit that the article implies. He may be a believer. He may not be. Its not clear from the video. The only thing that is clear is that website is complete and utter shite. |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:05:45 PM EDT
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See Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Devil's Due".
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:05:54 PM EDT
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Well op you've opened up another new can of worms for sure. For most of the atheist that will reply, there is nothing that will change them. Sad but true. They will rebuttal with misguided ignorance, avoid answers, and dance around everything thrown at them. They will ignore a large number of scientist that believe there is a God, like we even need scientist to prove it, and then throw a bunch of inane answers from some "Supreme Atheist" at this thread. Good luck to all and God Bless everyone. When it comes to avoiding answers you take the cake. |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:06:53 PM EDT
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Well op you've opened up another new can of worms for sure. For most of the atheist that will reply, there is nothing that will change them. Sad but true. They will rebuttal with misguided ignorance, avoid answers, and dance around everything thrown at them. They will ignore a large number of scientist that believe there is a God, like we even need scientist to prove it, and then throw a bunch of inane answers from some "Supreme Atheist" at this thread. Good luck to all and God Bless everyone. Hey, we're here together again! I for one would like to meet this Supreme Athiest, sounds like a reasonable guy. |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:07:01 PM EDT
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lol sure he did.
cant click link on phone. no worries if it was worth reading it would be unavoidable to hear about it. Proof of God would be a pretty significant, big and unavoidable topic.. just imagine how that would effect faith Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:08:11 PM EDT
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God talked to people all the time back during the days of the Bible. They all seemed to be able to get it and understand him. It is pretty convenient for a religion to have as it's only unforgivable sin is to not believe. You can get a pass on everything else. Kill 106 kids, find God and get forgiveness. Live a life following the teachings of Jesus Christ, yet have doubts as to the reality of his actual immense power...which has never been demonstrated to you personally and you are condemned to live in some sort of "hell". You got to admit, even if you are a hard core believer that it is a pretty convenient part of the whole deal if someone were wanting to make you believe this in order to profit from it in some way. Oh hell, now you did it. Get him God-Squad! |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:09:26 PM EDT
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I don't need a scientist to tell me what I already know that God exists. To each their own though. However, OP had poll failure as there is not an option for believers. My first poll. I was bound to mess it up. The question however was directed to those that do not have faith. People with the evidence of things not seen, do not need the evidence of things seen to know that there is a God. |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:09:46 PM EDT
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God is real? Great now which one? If there was definitive proof there was a Creator it isn't like everything is solved in the world.
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:10:26 PM EDT
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God talked to people all the time back during the days of the Bible. They all seemed to be able to get it and understand him. It is pretty convenient for a religion to have as it's only unforgivable sin is to not believe. You can get a pass on everything else. Kill 106 kids, find God and get forgiveness. Live a life following the teachings of Jesus Christ, yet have doubts as to the reality of his actual immense power...which has never been demonstrated to you personally and you are condemned to live in some sort of "hell". You got to admit, even if you are a hard core believer that it is a pretty convenient part of the whole deal if someone were wanting to make you believe this in order to profit from it in some way. Christianity teaches man condemned himself (through Adam, our representative) and deserves destruction for the actions and choices we made of our own free will. Salvation through the blood of Christ was meant as a gift to save mankind from the judgment we brought upon ourselves. You don't "get a pass on everything else" because the "wages of sin is death." Even with the gift salvation, sin brings with it its own punishment. |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:11:27 PM EDT
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A feat that no human could accomplish, only a being we would describe as God.
Stop earth rotation for a few hours. Something that couldn't be a trick. Like, put Pangea back together. That'd do it. |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:12:06 PM EDT
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My first poll. I was bound to mess it up. The question however was directed to those that do not have faith. People with the evidence of things not seen, do not need the evidence of things seen to know that there is a God. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't need a scientist to tell me what I already know that God exists. To each their own though. However, OP had poll failure as there is not an option for believers. My first poll. I was bound to mess it up. The question however was directed to those that do not have faith. People with the evidence of things not seen, do not need the evidence of things seen to know that there is a God. You didn't mess up your poll, it was directed at non-believers. It's just that some religious folk have to be the center of discussion no matter what. |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:12:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol sure he did. cant click link on phone. no worries if it was worth reading it would be unavoidable to hear about it. Proof of God would be a pretty significant, big and unavoidable topic.. just imagine how that would effect faith Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:14:09 PM EDT
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Wasn't expecting that to come from one of the guys who made string theory.
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:14:29 PM EDT
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A feat that no human could accomplish, only a being we would describe as God. Stop earth rotation for a few hours. Something that couldn't be a trick. Like, put Pangea back together. That'd do it. Um, let's skip the Pangea thing. I'm in Georgia, which would put me next to West Africa. I'm already half an hour from Atlanta, which is close enough for my taste. |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:15:03 PM EDT
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That scientist is full of shit.
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:15:27 PM EDT
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Um, let's skip the Pangea thing. I'm in Georgia, which would put me next to West Africa. I'm already half an hour from Atlanta, which is close enough for my taste. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A feat that no human could accomplish, only a being we would describe as God. Stop earth rotation for a few hours. Something that couldn't be a trick. Like, put Pangea back together. That'd do it. Um, let's skip the Pangea thing. I'm in Georgia, which would put me next to West Africa. I'm already half an hour from Atlanta, which is close enough for my taste. Hmm... what does M.A.R.T.A. stand for, again?
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:16:23 PM EDT
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So the display of immense power would still not convince you? This makes me think of Stargate. Can you guess why? |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:17:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That scientist is full of shit. |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:18:05 PM EDT
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I don't see how alien seeders would be proof of that. There could be a lot of things, such as finding a message starting in the 100 quadrillion digit of Pi saying "We apologize for the Inconvenience" in all the languages of Earth, or we could gather enough data (or find glitches in the matrix) that proves we're living in a simulation and the programmers or Boltzmann brain responsible from would essentially be our god, or Great Cthulhu could rise up and eat us all because the stars are right.
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:18:22 PM EDT
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Hmm... what does M.A.R.T.A. stand for, again? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A feat that no human could accomplish, only a being we would describe as God. Stop earth rotation for a few hours. Something that couldn't be a trick. Like, put Pangea back together. That'd do it. Um, let's skip the Pangea thing. I'm in Georgia, which would put me next to West Africa. I'm already half an hour from Atlanta, which is close enough for my taste. Hmm... what does M.A.R.T.A. stand for, again? 
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:18:27 PM EDT
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Christianity teaches man condemned himself (through Adam, our representative) and deserves destruction for the actions and choices we made of our own free will. Salvation through the blood of Christ was meant as a gift to save mankind from the judgment we brought upon ourselves. You don't "get a pass on everything else" because the "wages of sin is death." Even with the gift salvation, sin brings with it its own punishment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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God talked to people all the time back during the days of the Bible. They all seemed to be able to get it and understand him. It is pretty convenient for a religion to have as it's only unforgivable sin is to not believe. You can get a pass on everything else. Kill 106 kids, find God and get forgiveness. Live a life following the teachings of Jesus Christ, yet have doubts as to the reality of his actual immense power...which has never been demonstrated to you personally and you are condemned to live in some sort of "hell". You got to admit, even if you are a hard core believer that it is a pretty convenient part of the whole deal if someone were wanting to make you believe this in order to profit from it in some way. Christianity teaches man condemned himself (through Adam, our representative) and deserves destruction for the actions and choices we made of our own free will. Salvation through the blood of Christ was meant as a gift to save mankind from the judgment we brought upon ourselves. You don't "get a pass on everything else" because the "wages of sin is death." Even with the gift salvation, sin brings with it its own punishment. Either you believe the Bible or you don't. Matthew 12:30-32: "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. And so I tell you, people will be forgiven every sin and blasphemy. But the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." Mark 3:28-30: "Truly I tell you, all sins and blasphemes will be forgiven for the sons of men. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven, but is guilty of an eternal sin. He said this because they [the Pharisees] were saying, ‘He has an evil spirit’." Luke 12:8-10: "I tell you, whoever acknowledges me before men, the Son of Man will also acknowledge him before the angels of God. But he who disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God. And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven." |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:19:39 PM EDT
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So the display of immense power would still not convince you? So if God's chariot flies overhead and drops boxes of god stuff that we can't explain, does that convince us of god's existence or does that make up cargo cult members living on some isolated island somewhere. I think they made that movie back in the 80s and called it "The Gods Must be Crazy" |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:20:39 PM EDT
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Saw this today. http://ageac.org/en/multimedia/scientist-says-he-found-definitive-proof-that-god-exists-2/ I'm already a believer via the evidence of things not seen, but I'm curious to know what level of empirical evidence would be sufficient for those who don't have faith to say: 'Yeah, ok. God Exists.' What would tip you from non-believer to agnostic to 'Yeah, ok. Supreme being is there.' ETA: Poll added. What level of evidence would it take for you to believe in a different God? Say for example Odin or Athena? |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:21:08 PM EDT
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God would have to come talk to me direct to erase my doubts. He probably has already and you didn't listen
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:21:09 PM EDT
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lol
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Posted: 6/10/2016 6:22:07 PM EDT
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That scientist is full of shit. Your compelling evidence is overwhelming . |
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