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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:30:25 PM EDT
[#1]
so, make it more difficult for EVERYONE else bc your son offed himself?
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:35:16 PM EDT
[#2]
Very sorry for your loss lady but the gun wasn't the driving element of this tragedy.
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:36:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: so, make it more difficult for EVERYONE else bc your son offed himself? If it will save just one life! Think about the children. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:36:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: so, make it more difficult for EVERYONE else bc your son offed himself? yep. Common idiot leftist thought process. Punish everyone for one persons misdeeds. I call it the kindergarten thought process. In Kindergarten if little Johnny did something wrong, the whole class had to get a lesson. Fucking ridiculous. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:37:44 PM EDT
[#5]
Someone takes a shit we all get to wear diapers
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:37:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: She felt her son wouldn’t have passed that background check. “He lied on the application probably (at the gun range). He went in there and got a gun.” There it is. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:38:24 PM EDT
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That happened around here years ago. They changed their policy so in order to walk in and rent a gun, you had to have your own with you.
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:38:47 PM EDT
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There was a rash of people doing that in my area about 20 years ago. All of the ranges voluntarily adopted rules like not renting to a first-time customer who shows up alone and unarmed, not renting to anyone who appears to be intoxicated or disoriented or distraught, etc. I wouldn't want to have to clean up after a suicide in a shooting range that I owned or managed.
Insurance companies and lawyers can get restrictions imposed a lot faster than government can. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:39:57 PM EDT
[#9]
she's a dumb cunt.
He would have passed the background check. He isn't a prohibited person, he's suicidal. Thankfully, because she's passed the age of having children, and her progeny offed himself - she's technically a Darwin Award winner. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:40:50 PM EDT
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After three on range suicides my old shop will no longer rent guns to anyone who comes solo and who doesn’t have their own gun as well.
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:41:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Very sorry for your loss lady but the gun wasn't the driving element of this tragedy. Why not just take fentanyl, it’s evidently easy to obtain, there’s little mess, and it’s just as deadly as accuse lead poisoning. On second thought, maybe we should outlaw fentanyl….oh wait, NVM. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:42:26 PM EDT
[#12]
Guess it’s a good thing he didn’t drive himself to the Grand Canyon and jump over the edge.
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:43:10 PM EDT
[#13]
The speed bump solution. Solves the need to "do something ", but only serves to harass everyone but the problematic person.
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:43:31 PM EDT
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There's endless ways to kill yourself.....if you're determined, sadly we can't stop it much of the time. Be glad he didn't rent a car and fly 105mph into whatever got in the way.
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:44:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Guess it’s a good thing he didn’t drive himself to the Grand Canyon and jump over the edge. No more Grand Canyon visits. Shut it down. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:44:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Very sorry for your loss lady but the gun wasn't the driving element of this tragedy. This. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:46:22 PM EDT
[#17]
So she took in her kid back into her home with known mental issues and let him roam free in society. He offed himself and she blames the gun range.
This is like the idiots that let their dogs run free and are shocked when they end up dead. We should be thankful that he only harmed himself and didn’t decide to hurt others. I wish the kid had sought help instead of making the permanent solution. She took on the role of his caretaker and failed. She blames others for her failure. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:47:44 PM EDT
[#18]
This is why I support suicide booths.
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:49:31 PM EDT
[#19]
No bridges in Scottsdale?
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:49:41 PM EDT
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There was a gun shop with a range called Guns & Knives - Arizona Shooting Range in Fort Lauderdale. They had frequent rental gun suicides. It's a risk that those places take, and I'm not sure how having an RSO in the range would make much of a difference.
I tended to avoid ranges that rented guns. They would give a gun to a person that never shot before, give them a two minute orientation on how the gun works, and then send them in on their own to shoot in a range with other people. Saw a lot of stupid and dangerous shit, gang banger types, and weirdos in those places. Every lane position had holes in the barriers, overheads, and tables. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:50:57 PM EDT
[#21]
Wait until she learns how easy it is to get rope.
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:51:42 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There's endless ways to kill yourself.....if you're determined, sadly we can't stop it much of the time. Be glad he didn't rent a car and fly 105mph into whatever got in the way. Coming soon - background check, waiting period, and mental health evaluation before you’re permitted to rent a car, visit the Grand Canyon, take the subway, go swimming at a beach or swimming pool, visit the second or higher floor at a mall, etc. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:52:45 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait until she learns how easy it is to get rope. This. Using a gun is a lot quicker. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:52:47 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There it is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: She felt her son wouldn’t have passed that background check. “He lied on the application probably (at the gun range). He went in there and got a gun.” There it is. Says the mom who was responsible for his mental health until he reached the age of majority... Take responsibility mom |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:53:14 PM EDT
[#25]
people like her expect others to care and help their fucked up kid
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:55:17 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: yep. Common idiot leftist thought process. Punish everyone for one persons misdeeds. I call it the kindergarten thought process. In Kindergarten if little Johnny did something wrong, the whole class had to get a lesson. Fucking ridiculous. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: so, make it more difficult for EVERYONE else bc your son offed himself? yep. Common idiot leftist thought process. Punish everyone for one persons misdeeds. I call it the kindergarten thought process. In Kindergarten if little Johnny did something wrong, the whole class had to get a lesson. Fucking ridiculous. So the exact same thing as the military, police academies, and firefighter academies? |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:56:19 PM EDT
[#27]
Mom should be jailed for driving her son to suicide
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:56:56 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That happened around here years ago. They changed their policy so in order to walk in and rent a gun, you had to have your own with you. Changed at ours too. But more at their discretion. Anyone who is alone and renting a gun is heavily scrutinized. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:58:24 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why I support suicide booths. 
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Posted: 7/8/2023 12:58:46 PM EDT
[#30]
At the my local, now closed indoor shooting range, Santa Anita Firing Range, Monvrovia Calif, they won't rent a gun to a single, walk-in person, unless of course they know you. My friend had to clean up the mess, they had 3 suicides there.
 This is the range where they shot Mel Gibson movie "Lethal Weapon 1." Remember the smiley face? That was framed and hung in their lobby. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:13:51 PM EDT
[#31]
She didn't know her son living with her was mentally deranged enough to take his life but expects a stranger know.
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:16:28 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She didn't know her son living with her was mentally deranged enough to take his life but expects a stranger know. 
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:16:50 PM EDT
[#33]
Guess pushing for gun control is easier than being a better mother and teaching coping skills to your kid.
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:18:27 PM EDT
[#34]
Sorry about your son, but no you can’t punish everyone because he made a choice.
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:18:33 PM EDT
[#35]
And if he jumped off a building
Stepped into traffic Stood in front of a train Drowned Cut his wrists Hung himself Ate too many flintstones vitamins What then? Sorry for the loss, but your sorrow doesn't have any bearing on the rights of others. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:21:25 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No bridges in Scottsdale? Family member's car was found near a bridge. Body found near said bridge within 24 hours. If he'd eaten a Glock, the gun or gun industry would be the last thing I'd blame. I don't understand all the gun/bridge suicides anyway. Bridge gives you time to change your mind on the way down. Gun makes a mess, and a lot of human vegetables who weren't as determined to hold the gun on target as they thought they were. Are people really too lazy/impatient to come up with a way to go to sleep and not wake up? I mean, is there something more important to you than getting your suicide right? |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:21:32 PM EDT
[#37]
Because of one, the many must suffer.
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:23:47 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone takes a shit we all get to wear diapers  You didn't after someone shit his pants at the Vatican |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:24:12 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the range where they shot Mel Gibson movie "Lethal Weapon 1." Remember the smiley face? That was framed and hung in their lobby. Was there powder embedded in it? |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:24:12 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That happened around here years ago. They changed their policy so in order to walk in and rent a gun, you had to have your own with you. At my range to rent a gun you have to bring a friend or have your own gun |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:24:14 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No bridges in Scottsdale? Just freeway bridges, and you'd have to throw yourself into traffic. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:26:27 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Very sorry for your loss lady but the gun wasn't the driving element of this tragedy. This, and I have had a Child use my ow gun to kill Herself. As usual, the gun was not the problem. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:27:11 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Guess it’s a good thing he didn’t drive himself to the Grand Canyon and jump over the edge. Well there's signs and guardrails and stuff, so clearly he would not have been able to. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:39:26 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Using a gun is a lot quicker. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wait until she learns how easy it is to get rope. This. Using a gun is a lot quicker. Personally I worked more suicides from hangings than I did shootings. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:42:32 PM EDT
[#45]
If only we could all just go back to a time before firearms. That was a more peaceful time.
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:48:16 PM EDT
[#46]
When I was a younger guy, I worked at an indoor gun range that did rentals.
We had a guy that called, asked a salesman "What's a good enough gun to kill someone with one shot?" People have bad phrasing/are stupid, so salesman answered something along the lines of "I think you are meaning to ask 'what a good defensive caliber is'? The .45acp has a historical reputation as having a single-shot stopping capability, but it's always about shot placement, etc..." Later that afternoon, a dude comes in to our range, asks to rent a .45acp and doesn't know denominations ammo is sold in. Just needs "some". Doesn't seem to care what model or brand. THANKFULLY, same salesman is still on-shift, overhears guy, recognizes voice from phone. Comes over and sees something is off. Says "I'm not comfortable renting you a gun today, sir." Dude starts bawling in the middle of the store, yells "If you're not going to help me, I'll go somewhere that will!" and storms out. We get on all phones and call every competing range in a 20 mile radius giving them heads up, as well as call local police. They eventually find guy in parking lot of another range, interview, def suicidal. Never heard how his life turned out, but many ranges in the area (one of which had multiple suicides) after that incident instituted "No rentals to people that come in alone." Pretty simple and effective and requires no laws or government intrusion: * If you've already got a gun, but no friends, you're not going to rent a lane to kill yourself, you'll do it at home. * If you've already got a freind, but no gun, you're not going to bring a buddy to kill yourself -- he's hopefully going to be a tempering influence. ("unless two people, two people do it, in harmony..." - Alice's Restaurant) |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:49:00 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone takes a shit we all get to wear diapers Sigline material! |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:50:17 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Guess it’s a good thing he didn’t drive himself to the Grand Canyon and jump over the edge. Just ban cars and that would be prevented. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:50:37 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: she's a dumb cunt. He would have passed the background check. He isn't a prohibited person, he's suicidal. Thankfully, because she's passed the age of having children, and her progeny offed himself - she's technically a Darwin Award winner.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 1:50:56 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why I support suicide booths. Put you on an operating table, remove all viable transplant organs, unplug you. Charge enough, for the organs, to cremate your remains. Does the mom take any responsibility for this? |
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