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Posted: 10/22/2019 9:52:17 AM EDT
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impossible!
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Posted: 10/22/2019 9:53:34 AM EDT
[#2]
Everybody Wing Chun tonight!
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Posted: 10/22/2019 9:57:06 AM EDT
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So we find out that more Chinese shit is shit when tested. Imagine my surprise.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 9:57:06 AM EDT
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So obvious that the kick boxer was setting him up for that right roundhouse kick even I could see it.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 9:58:03 AM EDT
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The advent of the UFC has proven that most martial arts aren't very effective. BJJ/Muay Thai/Wrestling are what you need to be proficient in if you really want to be a badass.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 9:58:17 AM EDT
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kickboxing is a hard sport.. the men who practice it are tough sons of bitches.
All elbows and knees, and those dudes can deliver scary power with their kicks and punches. traditional Thai kickboxing was/is brutal.. no spank you. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 9:58:26 AM EDT
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Surprised it lasted that long.
MMA has taught the world that 90% of martial arts is complete bullshit. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:01:00 AM EDT
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The advent of the UFC has proven that most martial arts aren't very effective. BJJ/Muay Thai/Wrestling are what you need to be proficient in if you really want to be a badass. Wrestling and traditional boxing as well. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:01:40 AM EDT
[#9]
I'm suprised he lasted that long to be honest
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:01:52 AM EDT
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The advent of the UFC has proven that most martial arts aren't very effective. BJJ/Muay Thai/Wrestling are what you need to be proficient in if you really want to be a badass. UFC = MMA = Mixed Martial Arts |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:05:11 AM EDT
[#11]
Wing Chun man lasted longer than I would have, is about all I can say about that.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:05:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:07:13 AM EDT
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Someone spent too long learning how to hit, and not enough time learning how to take a hit and/or not get hit.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:07:30 AM EDT
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The advent of the UFC has proven that most martial arts aren't very effective. BJJ/Muay Thai/Wrestling are what you need to be proficient in if you really want to be a badass. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:08:18 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yet all those you listed are martial arts UFC = MMA = Mixed Martial Arts |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:09:27 AM EDT
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Everybody Wing Chun tonight! |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:10:48 AM EDT
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If we really could see a real exposition of Steven Seagal's technique versus an actual MMA fighter, this horseshit fan boy nonsense would come to a screeching halt really quick.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:10:58 AM EDT
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The advent of the UFC has proven that most martial arts aren't very effective. BJJ/Muay Thai/Wrestling are what you need to be proficient in if you really want to be a badass. ETA: the hand trapping techniques of WC work well when integrated into more effective styles. But if you're focused on trapping at the expense of distance management, guard, head movement, angles, etc. then you're gonna have a bad time in the ring with a boxer or kickboxer. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:12:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup Wrestling and traditional boxing as well. 1 - knock the opponent down. 2 - get on top of him. 3 - punch him in the face until the referee pulls you off. None of this is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or wrestling, or any specific martial art really. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:13:50 AM EDT
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[youtube]https://youtu.be/I09xfAHv5fw[/youtube]
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:13:53 AM EDT
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Watching on mobile with that grainy video and I'll at least give the guy in black that it looked like he got in a few good shots before getting k/o'd. Granted the kickboxer brought the fight and took it to him, and, as with most fights ... the win goes to the aggressor.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:17:09 AM EDT
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...The problems with it arise when the other guy won't stand in the correct intermediate range for it to work... Gotta be good at more styles. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:18:04 AM EDT
[#23]
 Indiana Jones - Arab Swordsman Scene |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:20:29 AM EDT
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Wing chun is effective at fighting itself. The problems with it arise when the other guy won't stand in the correct intermediate range for it to work. No answer for long range attacks, and the clinch blows through it like it's not even there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The advent of the UFC has proven that most martial arts aren't very effective. BJJ/Muay Thai/Wrestling are what you need to be proficient in if you really want to be a badass. Wing chun is effective at fighting itself. The problems with it arise when the other guy won't stand in the correct intermediate range for it to work. No answer for long range attacks, and the clinch blows through it like it's not even there. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:20:42 AM EDT
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There's even an argument that most of the BJJ is ultimately worthless, since anymore nearly all wins are: 1 - knock the opponent down. 2 - get on top of him. 3 - punch him in the face until the referee pulls you off. None of this is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or wrestling, or any specific martial art really. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Yup Wrestling and traditional boxing as well. 1 - knock the opponent down. 2 - get on top of him. 3 - punch him in the face until the referee pulls you off. None of this is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or wrestling, or any specific martial art really. BJJ is not very strike orientated, but it's good if you like wrestling with sweating dudes, I guess
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:21:44 AM EDT
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Surprised it lasted that long. MMA has taught the world that 90% of martial arts is complete bullshit. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:21:54 AM EDT
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Let’s see this guy up against a Sinanju master
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:23:45 AM EDT
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If I recall correctly a team of thai boxers went to Japan in the 70s
I think there were 7 fights against karate champions. All the Japanese were knocked out quickly. If karate doesn’t have a chance wing chun certainly doesn’t |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:24:39 AM EDT
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What is most telling about these fights between "traditional martial arts" and any MMA style fighter, aside from the weird stances to begin the fight, they all seem to do the same thing everyone else does after they get hit a few times.
I've never seen the traditional guy maintain a funky stance or throw "traditional style" punches and kicks after he takes a few "real life" shots... |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:32:48 AM EDT
[#30]
You will win all fights against pebbles. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:34:39 AM EDT
[#31]
Neighbor of mine was 4x World Kickboxing champ...
I don't think the NFL comes anywhere close to the brutality of kickboxing |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:37:26 AM EDT
[#32]
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Surprised it lasted that long. MMA has taught the world that 90% of martial arts is complete bullshit. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:38:29 AM EDT
[#33]
Changed his name to Me Too Low
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:39:20 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wing chun is effective at fighting itself. The problems with it arise when the other guy won't stand in the correct intermediate range for it to work. No answer for long range attacks, and the clinch blows through it like it's not even there. ETA: the hand trapping techniques of WC work well when integrated into more effective styles. But if you're focused on trapping at the expense of distance management, guard, head movement, angles, etc. then you're gonna have a bad time in the ring with a boxer or kickboxer. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:40:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. BJJ is not very strike orientated, but it's good if you like wrestling with sweating dudes, I guess |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:41:23 AM EDT
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So obvious that the kick boxer was setting him up for that right roundhouse kick even I could see it. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:42:00 AM EDT
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What is most telling about these fights between "traditional martial arts" and any MMA style fighter, aside from the weird stances to begin the fight, they all seem to do the same thing everyone else does after they get hit a few times. I've never seen the traditional guy maintain a funky stance or throw "traditional style" punches and kicks after he takes a few "real life" shots... |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:45:23 AM EDT
[#38]
So, Wing Chun is like the fixed fortifications or trench warfare of hand to hand fighting?
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:47:17 AM EDT
[#39]
Needs more Bas Rutten doing commentary.
"BANGITY BANGITY BONG BONG!!!" |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:48:13 AM EDT
[#40]
Most martial arts work great, on people that don't know how to fight or feed you an overhand right and don't pull their punches.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:49:20 AM EDT
[#41]
Yea but muh jeet kune do...
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:49:35 AM EDT
[#42]
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This. BJJ is not very strike orientated, but it's good if you like wrestling with sweating dudes, I guess Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Yup Wrestling and traditional boxing as well. 1 - knock the opponent down. 2 - get on top of him. 3 - punch him in the face until the referee pulls you off. None of this is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or wrestling, or any specific martial art really. BJJ is not very strike orientated, but it's good if you like wrestling with sweating dudes, I guess And even the best BJJ guys in the MMA game don't win with it 99% of the time. They still have to know it, but it's easily countered anymore and has been knocked way down the list in terms of what wins fights in MMA. On the street it's always been 1/2/3 as above, and always will be. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 10:54:35 AM EDT
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Doesn't look like he knows Wing Chun at all. Wing Chun requires you to close the distance. His hands weren't in the nromal Wing Chun position but more of a boxing position. Wing Chun blocks don't block completely and you absorb some of the hit, but deliver heavier blows in exchange. Kick boxer weakened the Wing Chun man's stance by kicking several times to the right thigh. It also conditioned him to expect an attack against the right thigh and not a kick to the head. Bruce Lee used to condition his opponents that way.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 11:01:42 AM EDT
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I'm no fighter, but I'm pretty sure if you take several shots to the head and never go on the offensive, you should expect the same result.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 11:02:13 AM EDT
[#45]
He should have waxed off then Craned him.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 11:03:03 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
The advent of the UFC has proven that most martial arts aren't very effective. BJJ/Muay Thai/Wrestling are what you need to be proficient in if you really want to be a badass. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 11:03:19 AM EDT
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My best friend is 6'2 240lbs and is a black belt. He was one of the few people who could spar with Dennis back in the day. Denis brutalized guys in training.
 Failed To Load Title Ramon Dekkers is the greatest non Thai fighter to ever live in my opinion in the true Muay Thai arena.  Ramon Dekkers Highlights Jason Lambert is my BJJ coach. You just don't understand how good these guys are until you roll with them. The untrained don't stand a chance against a real MMA fighter.  Babalu gets KO'd by Jason Lambert |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 11:04:46 AM EDT
[#48]
Damn.
Crouching Tiger had like 25 pounds on the kickboxer too. 
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Posted: 10/22/2019 11:09:05 AM EDT
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So obvious that the kick boxer was setting him up for that right roundhouse kick even I could see it. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 11:10:22 AM EDT
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Yea but muh jeet kune do... If you read Bruce Lee's Fighting Methods he advocates for boxing hand techniques and could be regarded as the father of kickboxing. Lee stressed the need to train as you fight including full contact sparring. Not me but trained by my trainer:  Dennis Downey vs Leroy Hopkins 2018 06 14 01 10 06 UTC |
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