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Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:09:15 PM EDT
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May be near time to sell off those bonds and get in on the fire sale.

Do I own page two???

Cause it looks like I own page two.

My first milestone.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:09:39 PM EDT
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I'm putting money into the market today at COB.

Intel will go ex-dividend on 11/6.  It will pay $.30/share on 12/1.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:11:31 PM EDT
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Within days it will recover.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:13:02 PM EDT
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A week tops.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:14:51 PM EDT
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It could by HMNY.

52 week range .01 - 9,715.00
HMNY is the owner of Movie Pass.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:15:35 PM EDT
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I'd say this is the beginning of a long painful ride downward, with a few bounces propelling the market temporarily upward along the way.  It ends with home prices below 2008 financial crisis lows on an inflation adjusted basis.  But what do I know...  
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:17:44 PM EDT
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Muh weed stocks.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:18:17 PM EDT
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Weird thing is, every 10-20 year old on the planet has it loaded on their phone. They have to make $$$ sooner or later I would think. I spend a lot of time in schools, EVERY kid uses it daily.
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Snap made big changes to their platform that made it unintuitive and hard to use at the same time Instagram introduced their "stories" feature and the snap users jumped ship so Snap's daily users have plummeted. Unless they do something major, snap is dead.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:18:57 PM EDT
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It's too late to get out.

Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:20:10 PM EDT
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Dow, S&P and Nasdaq are all back at early January levels, 0% gain over the last nine months. This is during the strongest economy in the history of history.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:21:51 PM EDT
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My body is ready
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:24:18 PM EDT
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Weird thing is, every 10-20 year old on the planet has it loaded on their phone. They have to make $$$ sooner or later I would think. I spend a lot of time in schools, EVERY kid uses it daily.
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False, Snap has been losing to IG's story at an alarming rate.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:26:17 PM EDT
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Been sitting on some cash. Time to buy with this nice discount.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:26:31 PM EDT
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Not providing investment advice, but the chart suggests a lot of shares have traded hands since COMPQ 7k.

Who has sold and who has bought from them?

COMPQ 4250 is a place where the buyers overwhelmed the sellers and provided a foundation for the run to 8k.

These prices levels reflect levels where buyers have shown up to move the market higher, but those events do not mean that sellers will not overwhelm buyers the next time.

Zoom out to the macro level and what are the markers for this casino?

USD

How are these markers created?

Credit Expansion

The only reason the market casino has trended higher for the past 80 years is because we started at cash, unlevered price levels across the entire economy after WW2.  If the credit expansion is not supported in aggregate - privately and/or publicly - we get deflation.  Deflation is falling prices, contract defaults and debt destruction.

We had an unprecedented bailout in 2008 that was opposed by the general public, so the odds are very high that the next deflation cycle will not be rescued with a trillion dollar annual deficit-spending policy.

Debits = Credits
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^this guy fucks.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:27:50 PM EDT
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Dow, S&P and Nasdaq are all back at early January levels, ytd gains now roughly 0%. This is during the strongest economy in the history of history.
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I'd say this is the beginning of a long painful ride downward, with a few bounces propelling the market temporarily upward along the way.  It ends with home prices below 2008 financial crisis lows on an inflation adjusted basis.  But what do I know...  
Dow, S&P and Nasdaq are all back at early January levels, ytd gains now roughly 0%. This is during the strongest economy in the history of history.
The market is forward looking.  So, for example, unemployment is 3.9%.  Natural unemployment is just north of 5%.  It has only one direction to go, because it can't go below zero.

But more importantly, the Fed created this economy.  They can take it away.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:28:46 PM EDT
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Time to pull out of the market and buy Bitcoin I guess.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:30:39 PM EDT
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Muh weed stocks.
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That's the only one that held up for me. So... yeah.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:30:54 PM EDT
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Im in for the long haul right now anyways

Have a little pile of cash that has been looking to park somewhere

Will buy before the earnings reports come out
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:31:11 PM EDT
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Next monday?
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:32:23 PM EDT
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So buy now or wait a few more days?
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:33:43 PM EDT
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The market will do what the market will do. This mostly has to do with interest and treasury yields.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:35:04 PM EDT
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Buy at the bottom of course.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:37:55 PM EDT
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Buy at the bottom of course.
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So buy now or wait a few more days?
Buy at the bottom of course.
Yeah, but who knows when it's going to hit the bottom of this little valley?

I have some more cash I could put into my account, but I'd like to get as much bang for my buck as possible.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:52:53 PM EDT
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As an official old fart, I have seen a drop of a bit over 500 points when the market was at 1,500 so this is not a big deal.  Merely a correction.
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This guy gets it.

I've been investing in since the 70s.  Up is the long term trend.  Granted, Obama and the Democratic Socialists slowed the "up" to a snails pace.  All the more reason to never vote for Democrats.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:54:07 PM EDT
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Then what do they do with the cash?  Sure take some profit but then you’ll put it in other securities. Nobody is just going to sit on large amounts of cash.
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It's October. Happens every year. People are cashing in their gains.
Then what do they do with the cash?  Sure take some profit but then you’ll put it in other securities. Nobody is just going to sit on large amounts of cash.
They buy after the price drops
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:54:37 PM EDT
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and banker Shenanigans and swap creature f^ckery.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:55:11 PM EDT
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Orange juice futures FTW.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:57:45 PM EDT
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If it were me, I would be looking at stocks in the SAAS sector. They are down something like 20% over the last couple weeks. Everyone else is running to utilities, look for the stocks people are running from for no reason.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:59:01 PM EDT
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HMNY is the owner of Movie Pass.
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It could by HMNY.

52 week range .01 - 9,715.00
HMNY is the owner of Movie Pass.
And $HMNY also had a massive reverse split.  It never hit $9715. It did go way up but not over $150 IIRC.  I made money on the way up but sold way too soon.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 4:59:37 PM EDT
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Obviously due to my just buying into an S&P index fund.  Time for the tanking!
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#metoo

To be fair, I had hoped the market was depressed from the High Court distraction that week & poised to recover with the resolution.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:02:50 PM EDT
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Then what do they do with the cash?  Sure take some profit but then you'll put it in other securities. Nobody is just going to sit on large amounts of cash.
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They can put it into the gazillion investments other than "stocks, bonds and mutual funds" that exist.

The banks and most financial "advisors" rarely talk about this, other than advising someone to maybe buy a rental home, but this largely the product of the bank-promoted "derrr, invest in mutual funds via your 401k" nonsense.  Accordingly, most people get locked in to thinking that's all that's accessible to them.

Even if you're not an accredited investor, there are lots of things someone can invest in where they can either control most of the risk, control their downside, or obtain far better returns than the market will typically provide (recent history notwithstanding).
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:04:22 PM EDT
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I'd say this is the beginning of a long painful ride downward, with a few bounces propelling the market temporarily upward along the way.  It ends with home prices below 2008 financial crisis lows on an inflation adjusted basis.  But what do I know...  
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You might be closer to the truth than I'd like you to be.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:07:09 PM EDT
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Wait for the FOMC to raise interest rate by .25% in Dec.  they are taking away the punchbowl and with it, liquidity.  It’s global too.
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@4v50

Can you please go into more detail?

I mean how does raising interest rates lead to money and credit contraction, besides defaults and people choosing/having to borrow less?  How is it global?  I may have an idea but I could not articulate it
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:08:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:09:16 PM EDT
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It's been the plan by the fed reserve to keep increasing interest rates, till they tank the economy, and blame Trump for it.

remember - the feds were completely afraid of doing anything with interest rates, and they even bought back their own notes at sales, to keep the economy going for fbho.

now that the dems are not in office, they have nothing to worry about, and have kept raising rates, faster than what they should have.

and now they are begining to see the results they want. a collapsing economy while Trump is in office.

next from the left: See! Trump's policies don't work. WE NEED TO INCREASE TAXES NOW TO SAVE THE ECONOMY!

BASIC INCOME FOR THE POOR NOW! etc....
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:10:22 PM EDT
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Orange juice futures FTW.
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One minute your kids are going to Harvard, the next they are repossessing your bently
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:12:22 PM EDT
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Its just a minor pull back to clean out the suckers.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:12:33 PM EDT
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Lots of doomsday and recession talk on CNBC
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:13:57 PM EDT
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I'd say this is the beginning of a long painful ride downward, with a few bounces propelling the market temporarily upward along the way.  It ends with home prices below 2008 financial crisis lows on an inflation adjusted basis.  But what do I know...  
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Double tops are extremely rare.  We just made it back to former highs.  Would be very unlikely we would not go on to make significantly higher highs

Home prices are somewhat separate and i hope they go down
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:14:27 PM EDT
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It's been the plan by the fed reserve to keep increasing interest rates, till they tank the economy, and blame Trump for it.

remember - the feds were completely afraid of doing anything with interest rates, and they even bought back their own notes at sales, to keep the economy going for fbho.

now that the dems are not in office, they have nothing to worry about, and have kept raising rates, faster than what they should have.

and now they are begining to see the results they want. a collapsing economy while Trump is in office.

next from the left: See! Trump's policies don't work. WE NEED TO INCREASE TAXES NOW TO SAVE THE ECONOMY!

BASIC INCOME FOR THE POOR NOW! etc....
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Yep turn on TV its already starting
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:14:50 PM EDT
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Obama's fault.

Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:16:19 PM EDT
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The market is forward looking.  So, for example, unemployment is 3.9%.  Natural unemployment is just north of 5%.  It has only one direction to go, because it can't go below zero.

But more importantly, the Fed created this economy.  They can take it away.
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I had the thought I wonder if they are manipulating all these recent losses before the election to help the democrats.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:16:49 PM EDT
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A week tops.
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Within days it will recover.
A week tops.
Ehhh we've done this a few times this year? I think it's usually been more than a week tops.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:17:42 PM EDT
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i know its crazy, some individual stocks are just off the hook with gains. Sempra is another one
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I heard that with tech stocks taking most of the hit people are parking their gains in "safer" less volatile stocks like utilities
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:17:53 PM EDT
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The DOW blew though it's lower band, waiting to see how far it's correcting
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:22:14 PM EDT
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If it were me, I would be looking at stocks in the SAAS sector. They are down something like 20% over the last couple weeks. Everyone else is running to utilities, look for the stocks people are running from for no reason.
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I have a little over $14K into CRM. Today lost about $1,000. I might buy some more soon though.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:23:43 PM EDT
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Orange juice futures FTW.
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During Florida hurricane season, the right storm, hitting the right place; this would be a sound investment.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:28:19 PM EDT
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It's been the plan by the fed reserve to keep increasing interest rates, till they tank the economy, and blame Trump for it.

remember - the feds were completely afraid of doing anything with interest rates, and they even bought back their own notes at sales, to keep the economy going for fbho.

now that the dems are not in office, they have nothing to worry about, and have kept raising rates, faster than what they should have.

and now they are begining to see the results they want. a collapsing economy while Trump is in office.

next from the left: See! Trump's policies don't work. WE NEED TO INCREASE TAXES NOW TO SAVE THE ECONOMY!

BASIC INCOME FOR THE POOR NOW! etc....
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Thats a scary but plausible theory.

With no discernible rise in inflation, interest rate increases SHOULD cease/stop.  If what you say is true, they won't.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:31:27 PM EDT
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Thats a scary but plausible theory.

With no discernible rise in inflation, interest rate increases SHOULD cease/stop.  If what you say is true, they won't.
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It's been the plan by the fed reserve to keep increasing interest rates, till they tank the economy, and blame Trump for it.

remember - the feds were completely afraid of doing anything with interest rates, and they even bought back their own notes at sales, to keep the economy going for fbho.

now that the dems are not in office, they have nothing to worry about, and have kept raising rates, faster than what they should have.

and now they are begining to see the results they want. a collapsing economy while Trump is in office.

next from the left: See! Trump's policies don't work. WE NEED TO INCREASE TAXES NOW TO SAVE THE ECONOMY!

BASIC INCOME FOR THE POOR NOW! etc....
Thats a scary but plausible theory.

With no discernible rise in inflation, interest rate increases SHOULD cease/stop.  If what you say is true, they won't.
I don't buy it.  Trump picked Jerome Powell.  More likely Powell is actually doing his job, where the previous Chairmen of the Fed weren't.
Link Posted: 10/10/2018 5:34:37 PM EDT
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Yo quiero jugo de naranja !!!!

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