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They did a bang up job of propping up Obama's fog machine with 1 rate increase in his last year in office so I can believe it. Besides, as others have shown the "recovery" is nothing more than a shell game. Right before midterms too, imagine that. Just takes a little nudge and people are fleeing for cash. Now, Trump is no dummy. He had to know they would fight back this way so it will be interesting to see what happens. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's been the plan by the fed reserve to keep increasing interest rates, till they tank the economy, and blame Trump for it. remember - the feds were completely afraid of doing anything with interest rates, and they even bought back their own notes at sales, to keep the economy going for fbho. now that the dems are not in office, they have nothing to worry about, and have kept raising rates, faster than what they should have. and now they are begining to see the results they want. a collapsing economy while Trump is in office. next from the left: See! Trump's policies don't work. WE NEED TO INCREASE TAXES NOW TO SAVE THE ECONOMY! BASIC INCOME FOR THE POOR NOW! etc.... |
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Take advantage of these huge corrections . If they raise rates again in the next meeting might time to buy presicous metals . Housing, credit card , student loans , etc etc... is going to be crashing soon. Get your toys now dollar isn’t going to be worth shit in the future
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Then what do they do with the cash? Sure take some profit but then you’ll put it in other securities. Nobody is just going to sit on large amounts of cash. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's October. Happens every year. People are cashing in their gains. when someone sells an equity at a profit they have to pay tax if someone sells an equity for cash or a trade ( invest in something else) at a profit for $1000 and in the same year they sell an equity at a loss of $1000 and buy an different equity then the net gain on equities is zero as the loss cancels out the profit and no tax is paid happens every year that people take proffits |
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Be patient. What goes down will come up. A week ago we had a record high. It can be a rough ride but don't get rattled.
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Fuck my ass with a cactus, I just put $3k on VTSAX literally two weeks ago.
I know its whore money, but I had it laying around and wanted to do more than 8 tenths of a fucking percent. |
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They can put it into the gazillion investments other than "stocks, bonds and mutual funds" that exist. The banks and most financial "advisors" rarely talk about this, other than advising someone to maybe buy a rental home, but this largely the product of the bank-promoted "derrr, invest in mutual funds via your 401k" nonsense. Accordingly, most people get locked in to thinking that's all that's accessible to them. Even if you're not an accredited investor, there are lots of things someone can invest in where they can either control most of the risk, control their downside, or obtain far better returns than the market will typically provide (recent history notwithstanding). View Quote Far better returns than the market?... Like what? |
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I've made some insane short term returns in commercial real estate and in buying notes at a discount.
I typed some posts about it in the Business and Investing forum a while ago, I'll dig them up and repost summaries. |
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Too many people still have the mindset from when the DOW was at 3000 or so. A 500 point drop then would be massive. From 25,000, it's a blip.
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Barclays' regular savings account is 1.9%. View Quote The Fed Res’ artificially low interest rates discouraged saving (which is necessary for economic growth) and encouraged those with cash to keep it in the equity market. Same thing happened to pension funds. |
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No, but it's a hell of a lot better than 0.6%. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Barclays' regular savings account is 1.9%. We live in interesting times. Gawd how I prefer boring and watching the grass grow. |
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Absolutely. But remember w/the Dodd-Frank Act savers are unsecured creditors who stand second in line for the bank's money. FDIC has been broke too so by the time you get paid back, it's worth the paper it's printed on. QE's effect will haunt us by then. We live in interesting times. Gawd how I prefer boring and watching the grass grow. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Barclays' regular savings account is 1.9%. We live in interesting times. Gawd how I prefer boring and watching the grass grow. |
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Fuck my ass with a cactus, I just put $3k on VTSAX literally two weeks ago. I know its whore money, but I had it laying around and wanted to do more than 8 tenths of a fucking percent. View Quote |
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It goes up, it goes down. Stay the course and don't try to time the market.
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I just bought back in to some tech stocks. We'll see if it was the right decision.
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I just bought $10K of S&P last week. Now I'm thinking about adding $2.5K more to it to even things out a bit.
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SELL SELL SELL I'm not kidding. You guys who think that you can just sit around and pull in 15 to 20% per year on your stocks in the "markets" are in for a rude 2008-style awakening. The "market" is not actually a real market. It's manipulated by insiders, big investment banks, and interest rates and you have no idea what you are really getting into. Guns, ammo, tobacco, alcohol, food, water, gold, and silver are what you need. View Quote Buying stocks in the companies that produce the things you mentioned are investments or speculation, where rates of return rise to something meaningful. |
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I just bought $10K of S&P last week. Now I'm thinking about adding $2.5K more to it to even things out a bit. View Quote |
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All of these dip buyers are going to be in for a big surprise when the market finally crashes. The next crash will make 2008 look like child's play.
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SELL SELL SELL I'm not kidding. You guys who think that you can just sit around and pull in 15 to 20% per year on your stocks in the "markets" are in for a rude 2008-style awakening. The "market" is not actually a real market. It's manipulated by insiders, big investment banks, and interest rates and you have no idea what you are really getting into. Guns, ammo, tobacco, alcohol, food, water, gold, and silver are what you need. View Quote |
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All of these dip buyers are going to be in for a big surprise when the market finally crashes. The next crash will make 2008 look like child's play. View Quote |
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That's if you have the appropriate mix for CPI-U. Just don't send anyone to college or consume medical care. You're golden. View Quote |
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WTF is with all the idiots hoping for a crash?
Anyways it's the usual October selloff, people cash in their gains ahead of the holidays. The elections and what follows next year will be the thing to watch. |
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WTF is with all the idiots hoping for a crash? Anyways it's the usual October selloff, people cash in their gains ahead of the holidays. The elections and what follows next year will be the thing to watch. View Quote They have extra cash laying around and want to buy at the bottom. Pick one. |
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All of these dip buyers are going to be in for a big surprise when the market finally crashes. The next crash will make 2008 look like child's play. View Quote Same as the last 100 years. |
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LOL at people saying it's a crash.
Maybe, maybe not. I usually make money both directions and this has been no exception. But what fucking evidence, other than a few days of downturn, do you have that shows you are right about a crash, and not just herping and derping to make yourself feel superior to ... something? |
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Quoted: They panic sold and want to buy back in. They have extra cash laying around and want to buy at the bottom. Pick one. View Quote Three - They don't want a crash, but will gladly sell other assets to buy the market at a discount with the expectation that it benefits them in the long-run. |
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LOL at people saying it's a crash. Maybe, maybe not. I usually make money both directions and this has been no exception. But what fucking evidence, other than a few days of downturn, do you have that shows you are right about a crash, and not just herping and derping to make yourself feel superior to ... something? View Quote |
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