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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:48:02 AM EDT

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The FED had no problems pumping economic Herion into the veins of the Obama economy.
Now that Trump is POTUS they have stopped the pump without any methadone treatments & the economy is going through Withdrawel Colt Turkey!

They should have limited their actions for a few years to allow for a painless withdrawal. Unless the FED is full of globalists cock suckers that want MAGA to fail!
Hopefully Trump has a plan.

Posted: 10/11/2018 11:49:27 AM EDT

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You don't believe what? Which country's central bank is operating differently than the Fed?

Posted: 10/11/2018 11:51:26 AM EDT

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The FED had no problems pumping economic Herion into the veins of the Obama economy.
Now that Trump is POTUS they have stopped the pump without any methadone treatments & the economy is going through Withdrawel Colt Turkey!

They should have limited their actions for a few years to allow for a painless withdrawal. Unless the FED is full of globalists cock suckers that want MAGA to fail!
Hopefully Trump has a plan.

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The Fed is full of globalists (communists).

Posted: 10/11/2018 11:51:49 AM EDT

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The vibe man

Posted: 10/11/2018 11:51:53 AM EDT

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WTF is with all the idiots hoping for a crash?

Anyways it's the usual October selloff, people cash in their gains ahead of the holidays.

The elections and what follows next year will be the thing to watch.

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Long term investing. Try it out.

Posted: 10/11/2018 11:52:35 AM EDT

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All of these dip buyers are going to be in for a big surprise when the market finally crashes. The next crash will make 2008 look like child's play.

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You should stick to posting less.

Posted: 10/11/2018 11:58:50 AM EDT

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You don't believe what? Which country's central bank is operating differently than the Fed?

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It's been a while since I've looked, but places like Australia, the Netherlands, New Zealand, and Singapore have been resistant to the temptation.

Posted: 10/11/2018 11:58:52 AM EDT

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Anyone use trading view? Why cant I bring up the tickers of mutual funds like VINIX, RERGX, and CRRYX?

Posted: 10/11/2018 12:01:04 PM EDT

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WTF is with all the idiots hoping for a crash?

Anyways it's the usual October selloff, people cash in their gains ahead of the holidays.

The elections and what follows next year will be the thing to watch.

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They want to be able to use all their gold

Posted: 10/11/2018 12:21:43 PM EDT

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It's been a while since I've looked, but places like Australia, the Netherlands, New Zealand, and Singapore have been resistant to the temptation.

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They all have central banks doing the same thing as the Fed. There is definitely a difference in scale and policy, but that has a lot to do with their population size and domestic economy makeup. Singapore has a business friendly (tax and policy) environment. It is exactly what Trump is pushing.

Posted: 10/11/2018 12:23:34 PM EDT

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And quite frankly if the market crashed, gold would spike and that would be a good use for it.

Posted: 10/11/2018 12:25:42 PM EDT

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So far my decision to buy back in this morning has been a good one.

Posted: 10/11/2018 12:28:40 PM EDT

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When did you sell and when did you buy? Or did you just have a ton of cash laying around?

Posted: 10/11/2018 12:34:44 PM EDT

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Do you think Australia's housing bubble got that way without their CB doing the exact same thing as the fed?

Posted: 10/11/2018 12:38:14 PM EDT

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This correction is way over due. Companies have been cooking their books way to long. I'm seeing minimum 25% corection. It happening welcome to north argintina. Hope you fucks have your ducks in order

Posted: 10/11/2018 12:44:33 PM EDT

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This correction is way over due. Companies have been cooking their books way to long. I'm seeing minimum 25% corection. It happening welcome to north argintina. Hope you fucks have your ducks in order

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If you’re so certain of this you could make a shit ton of money. And you can feel supierior to those whose money is now at 2016 levels after your prediction comes true. How much money are going to make on your certain prediction?

100k? 500? 2-3 mill? Get your ducks in order and you’ll be rich.

Posted: 10/11/2018 12:46:51 PM EDT

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If you’re so certain of this you could make a shit ton of money. And you can feel supierior to those whose money is now at 2016 levels after your prediction comes true. How much money are going to make on your certain prediction?

100k? 500? 2-3 mill? Get your ducks in order and you’ll be rich.

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All in on SPXU.

Posted: 10/11/2018 12:47:32 PM EDT

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The real risk here is that the administration decides to burn the dollar to prop up the market (financial, not political commentary). Then the folks who own gold will finally be happy.

Posted: 10/11/2018 12:50:56 PM EDT

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I think that is the scheme. They are going to ramp up rates and then when the next socialist gets into office, they are going to need to turn on QE/rate suppression once again. The good news is it will trigger a bond rally.

Posted: 10/11/2018 12:53:49 PM EDT

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I finally bought some gold yesterday(first time ever), to help offset that possibility.

Posted: 10/11/2018 12:55:41 PM EDT

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You are worried about Fed manipulation. Wait until you experience the gold market manipulation. You should have bought a bond fund instead.

Posted: 10/11/2018 1:00:40 PM EDT

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I'm not kidding. You guys who think that you can just sit around and pull in 15 to 20% per year on your stocks in the "markets" are in for a rude 2008-style awakening. The "market" is not actually a real market. It's manipulated by insiders, big investment banks, and interest rates and you have no idea what you are really getting into.

Guns, ammo, tobacco, alcohol, food, water, gold, and silver are what you need.

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I can fap to this.

Posted: 10/11/2018 1:00:48 PM EDT

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its a BUY BUY BUY opportunity

good way to get a 10-12% bump in my money

Posted: 10/11/2018 1:07:10 PM EDT

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Grab while low, after the upcoming red wave plus holiday spending, the market will kicking ass.

Posted: 10/11/2018 1:09:10 PM EDT

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Irrational exuberance Trumps fundamentals

However sooner or later the piper is gonna get paid.

Posted: 10/11/2018 1:12:08 PM EDT

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You are worried about Fed manipulation. Wait until you experience the gold market manipulation. You should have bought a bond fund instead.

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I finally bought some gold yesterday(first time ever), to help offset that possibility.

You are worried about Fed manipulation. Wait until you experience the gold market manipulation. You should have bought a bond fund instead.

I'm already invested in stocks and bonds but thinking the dollar is in a vulnerable position regardless of FRB actions, so I put some $ in gold just in case.

Posted: 10/11/2018 1:13:29 PM EDT

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It's gonna be worse than y2k.

Just for grins, I looked up the Dow Jones the year I was born: 890. The long-term trajectory, the only one that matters, is up.

It's time in my financial planning to increase my retirement savings to 15% of my gross. Looking forward to buying on a dip. Everything is going to be all right.

Posted: 10/11/2018 1:14:30 PM EDT

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All of these dip buyers are going to be in for a big surprise when the market finally crashes. The next crash will make 2008 look like child's play.

You should stick to posting less.

If he posts that in every stock market thread he's going to be "right" eventually.

Monday!

Posted: 10/11/2018 1:15:30 PM EDT

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I'm already invested in stocks and bonds but thinking the dollar is in a vulnerable position regardless of FRB actions, so I put some $ in gold just in case.

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ETF or physical?

Posted: 10/11/2018 1:20:23 PM EDT

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I'm already invested in stocks and bonds but thinking the dollar is in a vulnerable position regardless of FRB actions, so I put some $ in gold just in case.

ETF or physical?

ETF and FSAGX, no physical.

Posted: 10/11/2018 1:26:19 PM EDT

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I personally would move that into an index such as HUI. There is some M&A activity occuring in the sector.

Posted: 10/11/2018 1:30:31 PM EDT

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I finally bought some gold yesterday(first time ever), to help offset that possibility.

You are worried about Fed manipulation. Wait until you experience the gold market manipulation. You should have bought a bond fund instead.

A bond fund while rates are rapidly rising. Yeah, that's smart.

Posted: 10/11/2018 1:32:26 PM EDT

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I personally would move that into an index such as HUI. There is some M&A activity occuring in the sector.

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ETF and FSAGX, no physical.

I personally would move that into an index such as HUI. There is some M&A activity occuring in the sector.

I'll take a look right now and probably throw some $ into that also. Thanks.

Posted: 10/11/2018 1:41:09 PM EDT

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A bond fund while rates are rapidly rising. Yeah, that's smart.

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Why, yes it is smart, even in a rising rate environment.

Posted: 10/11/2018 1:50:48 PM EDT

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When did you sell and when did you buy? Or did you just have a ton of cash laying around?

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I sold everything yesterday. I bought back this morning.

Posted: 10/11/2018 1:54:26 PM EDT

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Why, yes it is smart, even in a rising rate environment.

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Bond face values are derived by the discount rate. As rates go up the face value drops.

Posted: 10/11/2018 1:55:19 PM EDT

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I sold everything yesterday. I bought back this morning.

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Your cost basis just went up and you are buying back in on the high side of the market.

Posted: 10/11/2018 2:10:21 PM EDT

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Do you think Australia's housing bubble got that way without their CB doing the exact same thing as the fed?

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It's been a while since I've looked, but places like Australia, the Netherlands, New Zealand, and Singapore have been resistant to the temptation.

Do you think Australia's housing bubble got that way without their CB doing the exact same thing as the fed?

Asset bubbles and currency toilet-papering have drastically different outcomes. The former is recoverable; the latter is Argentina, Zimbabwe, Weimar Germany et al.

In this global Keynesian world, all governments are subject to "helping" people with things like houses, creating housing bubbles. However, the Fed, ECB, BoJ, and PBOC are the big ones toilet-papering their currency. Borrowing and printing in the same currency vs pushing money into one sector. When they do that, it takes out the whole economy and way of life instead of just one sector.

So, while opportunity on the whole sucks under the current system, at least there are places that are only cutting themselves vs. putting a loaded gun to their head. It's possible to avoid that cut up arm and make some money.

Posted: 10/11/2018 2:12:38 PM EDT

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Bond face values are derived by the discount rate. As rates go up the face value drops.

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Bond funds come in different durations and the longer the term the more price sensitive the bond is relative to the interest rate change. That being said, a bond fund is always retiring and acquiring bonds. During the short-term you will notice a drop in price of the bond fund as the rates increase, but the fund will recover over the long-term as it replaces old bonds with higher yielding bonds. The interest payments are reinvested back into the bond fund continually buying the fund at a lower price during the rate rises. Because I cannot market time with 100% consistency, I follow an asset allocation model no matter which way the market moves. So if next week the economy stalls out and the Fed stops raising rates or lowers rates, I am in a position to capture those gains and rebalance my portfolio as stocks retreat. Buy low, sell high! I assume most do the same.

Posted: 10/11/2018 2:17:19 PM EDT

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Your cost basis just went up and you are buying back in on the high side of the market.

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Yes, my cost basis went up, but I'm still up plenty.

I obviously don't think I'm buying on the high side or I wouldn't have bought back in.

Posted: 10/11/2018 2:21:12 PM EDT

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WTF is with all the idiots hoping for a crash?

Anyways it's the usual October selloff, people cash in their gains ahead of the holidays.

The elections and what follows next year will be the thing to watch.

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The economy has been hopped up on free money for decades. The ride is stopping now. I am not honoring for a crash, fundamentals don’t support current valuations.

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This is a problem for people nearing retirement. This is an opportunity for those who are not.

Same as the last 100 years.

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Real interest rates hit negative. There is one realistic way they move in the future.

Posted: 10/11/2018 2:38:38 PM EDT

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Asset bubbles and currency toilet-papering have drastically different outcomes. The former is recoverable; the latter is Argentina, Zimbabwe, Weimar Germany et al.

In this global Keynesian world, all governments are subject to "helping" people with things like houses, creating housing bubbles. However, the Fed, ECB, BoJ, and PBOC are the big ones toilet-papering their currency. Borrowing and printing in the same currency vs pushing money into one sector. When they do that, it takes out the whole economy and way of life instead of just one sector.

So, while opportunity on the whole sucks under the current system, at least there are places that are only cutting themselves vs. putting a loaded gun to their head. It's possible to avoid that cut up arm and make some money.

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You are not getting much in the way of diversification owning a basket of Australian securities over the S&P500. Australia's economy is reliant on natural resource exports, especially to China. If global growths stalls out, or Chinese goods are restricted because of tariffs, Australia is going to suffer.

Posted: 10/11/2018 2:43:30 PM EDT

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Let’s get this party started!!!!

Posted: 10/11/2018 2:45:28 PM EDT

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-600

Posted: 10/11/2018 2:45:59 PM EDT

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He is not wrong

Posted: 10/11/2018 2:50:25 PM EDT

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So is this honestly just the October dip or something worse? I don't want BS opinions is this something that happens in most Octobers? I don't know much of anything about this stuff because I invest in rental homes, but am going to start learning. Not trying to start a purse swinging battle, just looking for facts.

Posted: 10/11/2018 2:55:09 PM EDT

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So is this honestly just the October dip or something worse? I don't want BS opinions is this something that happens in most Octobers? I don't know much of anything about this stuff because I invest in rental homes, but am going to start learning. Not trying to start a purse swinging battle, just looking for facts.

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Ignoring GD antics, I’m not getting my panties in a bunch over this.

Posted: 10/11/2018 2:58:52 PM EDT

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So is this honestly just the October dip or something worse? I don't want BS opinions is this something that happens in most Octobers? I don't know much of anything about this stuff because I invest in rental homes, but am going to start learning. Not trying to start a purse swinging battle, just looking for facts.

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The market sentiment is changing. How this plays out is anyone's guess. The Fed could come out and start talking down rate hikes and the market will rally and recover all of its losses by Tuesday. Monday is out of the question.

Posted: 10/11/2018 3:00:30 PM EDT

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So is this honestly just the October dip or something worse? I don't want BS opinions is this something that happens in most Octobers? I don't know much of anything about this stuff because I invest in rental homes, but am going to start learning. Not trying to start a purse swinging battle, just looking for facts.

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Who knows if it's a dip or the start of a bear market? The stock market has already pretty much given back all of it's gains for the entire calender year though, that's not a typical October dip. Still, who knows?

Posted: 10/11/2018 3:06:24 PM EDT

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Ignoring GD antics, I’m not getting my panties in a bunch over this.

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Me either - I sleep good either way.

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