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When the government wants to start blowing us up, I suspect they'll use something besides sticks of dynamite.
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all 1980 sticks...... WOW I'm worried..... the is more potentially explosive energy from one Walmart truck
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or test explosive effects or test disruptors against real explosives or other training It could be a plethora of things. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Calibrate chemical sniffers or train explosive dogs? or test disruptors against real explosives or other training It could be a plethora of things. That sounds like tests that would be performed by the NTSB, FBI, and BATFE. The solicitation specifies TSA, not anyone else. |
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Hope they keep it secured. With the two digit IQs of most TSA sorts, I'd expect a cartoon-style "Hey, a candle!" scene.
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That sounds like tests that would be performed by the NTSB, FBI, and BATFE. The solicitation specifies TSA, not anyone else. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Calibrate chemical sniffers or train explosive dogs? or test disruptors against real explosives or other training It could be a plethora of things. That sounds like tests that would be performed by the NTSB, FBI, and BATFE. The solicitation specifies TSA, not anyone else. Not uncommon with govt purchases. If one agency wants somethingspecific that another agency is supporting, the first agency does all the purchasing and other stuff on behalf of the supporting agency |
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The question then remains: Why would the TSA purchase dynamite? View Quote That's easy... Set off a few sticks around the airport, depot, or bus terminal. Drum up new business. |
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This is almost too easy.
They have to calibrate their new explosives sensors, so that terrorists won't be able to blow planes up over the South China Sea. (Bonus - How many NSA keywords in the above sentence?) |
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Divide the number of sticks of dynamite by the number of agents and I think you will find your answer.
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Quoted: TSA has the BAO/TSS-E which are demo certified and do have access to explosives. I conduct training with them all the time. There was been a push to turn them into an actual federal bomb squad available to all federal agencies so customs, DHS, border patrol, etc. can stop beg, borrowing, and stealing bomb squad response assets from everywhere else. As such the TSA guys have been conducting a lot of demo training for the past several years. Ive cooked peroxide based HME with TSA before, and done tons of demo with them utilizing their own explosives. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There are much cheaper/easier/safer ways to calibrate equipment and train dogs than waving around half pound sticks of high NG content dynamite. It's just real dynamite is a lot less stable than something like C4. I doubt this is for dogs or calibration due to real dynamites unstable nature. This has to be for the type of training where they detonate explosives. Even just a month of high temperature or high humidity degrades NG based dynamite. TSA has the BAO/TSS-E which are demo certified and do have access to explosives. I conduct training with them all the time. There was been a push to turn them into an actual federal bomb squad available to all federal agencies so customs, DHS, border patrol, etc. can stop beg, borrowing, and stealing bomb squad response assets from everywhere else. As such the TSA guys have been conducting a lot of demo training for the past several years. Ive cooked peroxide based HME with TSA before, and done tons of demo with them utilizing their own explosives. |
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The question then remains: Why would the TSA purchase dynamite? http://www.thegatewaypundit.com http://www.prepperpodcast.com/tsa-orders-over-half-ton-of-high-powered-explosive/#axzz2vO0iidH View Quote Because they have no NSN for Tannerite? I'd hate to be the guy who has to light and throw it, though. |
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FAMS shoot more than 1k rounds per year. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Side note: The 3.4 million rounds of ammo is FMJ, and it's enough for the 3,400 air marshals to each have 1,000 training rounds. I'd say 87% of this forum has more than 1,000 rounds for training. Math...how does it work? From RT.com May 13, 2013:US DHS already bought 360,000 rounds of hollow point bullets and 1.5 billion rounds in 2012 So I guess we have 3,400,000 air marshals. |
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Well, the guys local to me always travel somewhere else to do their demo training and it is hosted by another fed agency or the MIL. View Quote Im military, We can do ranges with them but there are restrictions on what types of class V we can use because they are civilians. The bulk explosives have to come from them, we can only provide initiators and disposable explosive tools. The TSS-E program is large a spread out being based out of airports, so obviously most of them dont have access to demo ranges. A lot of them do travel. They have hubs where they have access to demo storage and ranges. Colorado springs is one of those hubs, a lot of TSA guys travel there and they use the city and county range. TSA does have its own demo and storage capability, but teams are not individually equipped with it yet, just like they dont have actual team gear and RSP capability to make them actual bomb squad response capable. Its the direction they are going though, the agents were only demo certified within the last few years. The next step is pushing guys through HDS, certifying them on device RSP, and equipping them with actual response equipment and individual demo. The dynamite would have to be for basic demo training, as its not used for stateside bomb squad use. I use it in Afghsnistan all the time, but ive never seen anyone stateside have a use for it besides demo training in general. |
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Math...how does it work? From RT.com May 13, 2013:US DHS So I guess we have 3,400,000 air marshals. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Side note: The 3.4 million rounds of ammo is FMJ, and it's enough for the 3,400 air marshals to each have 1,000 training rounds. I'd say 87% of this forum has more than 1,000 rounds for training. Math...how does it work? From RT.com May 13, 2013:US DHS already bought 360,000 rounds of hollow point bullets and 1.5 billion rounds in 2012 So I guess we have 3,400,000 air marshals. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/04/The-Great-DHS-Ammunition-Stockpile-Myth I don't know what's worse: Citing a Russian .gov propaganda news agency or still buying into the DHS ammo myth. |
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It's all fun and games until the handler forgets what he has and decides to play fetch.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/04/The-Great-DHS-Ammunition-Stockpile-Myth I don't know what's worse: Citing a Russian .gov propaganda news agency or still buying into the DHS ammo myth. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Side note: The 3.4 million rounds of ammo is FMJ, and it's enough for the 3,400 air marshals to each have 1,000 training rounds. I'd say 87% of this forum has more than 1,000 rounds for training. Math...how does it work? From RT.com May 13, 2013:US DHS already bought 360,000 rounds of hollow point bullets and 1.5 billion rounds in 2012 So I guess we have 3,400,000 air marshals. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/04/The-Great-DHS-Ammunition-Stockpile-Myth I don't know what's worse: Citing a Russian .gov propaganda news agency or still buying into the DHS ammo myth. Really? Maybe you should go over to that little anarchist's thread "Josie Outlaw" and look at some of her videos of all the "alphabet" "Police" running around now. |
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The question then remains: Why would the TSA purchase dynamite? http://www.thegatewaypundit.com http://www.prepperpodcast.com/tsa-orders-over-half-ton-of-high-powered-explosive/#axzz2vO0iidH View Quote prepper pod cast LOL. the source for all your chicken little needs. |
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Math...how does it work? From RT.com May 13, 2013:US DHS So I guess we have 3,400,000 air marshals. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Side note: The 3.4 million rounds of ammo is FMJ, and it's enough for the 3,400 air marshals to each have 1,000 training rounds. I'd say 87% of this forum has more than 1,000 rounds for training. Math...how does it work? From RT.com May 13, 2013:US DHS already bought 360,000 rounds of hollow point bullets and 1.5 billion rounds in 2012 So I guess we have 3,400,000 air marshals. Please provide a link so I can tear your "source" a new asshole. |
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the other question is what idiot refers to dynamite as a "high power explosive"? Pretty sure it is 1.1 It is, dynamite is definitely a high explosive. |
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Im military, We can do ranges with them but there are restrictions on what types of class V we can use because they are civilians. The bulk explosives have to come from them, we can only provide initiators and disposable explosive tools. The TSS-E program is large a spread out being based out of airports, so obviously most of them dont have access to demo ranges. A lot of them do travel. They have hubs where they have access to demo storage and ranges. Colorado springs is one of those hubs, a lot of TSA guys travel there and they use the city and county range. TSA does have its own demo and storage capability, but teams are not individually equipped with it yet, just like they dont have actual team gear and RSP capability to make them actual bomb squad response capable. Its the direction they are going though, the agents were only demo certified within the last few years. The next step is pushing guys through HDS, certifying them on device RSP, and equipping them with actual response equipment and individual demo. The dynamite would have to be for basic demo training, as its not used for stateside bomb squad use. I use it in Afghsnistan all the time, but ive never seen anyone stateside have a use for it besides demo training in general. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Well, the guys local to me always travel somewhere else to do their demo training and it is hosted by another fed agency or the MIL. Im military, We can do ranges with them but there are restrictions on what types of class V we can use because they are civilians. The bulk explosives have to come from them, we can only provide initiators and disposable explosive tools. The TSS-E program is large a spread out being based out of airports, so obviously most of them dont have access to demo ranges. A lot of them do travel. They have hubs where they have access to demo storage and ranges. Colorado springs is one of those hubs, a lot of TSA guys travel there and they use the city and county range. TSA does have its own demo and storage capability, but teams are not individually equipped with it yet, just like they dont have actual team gear and RSP capability to make them actual bomb squad response capable. Its the direction they are going though, the agents were only demo certified within the last few years. The next step is pushing guys through HDS, certifying them on device RSP, and equipping them with actual response equipment and individual demo. The dynamite would have to be for basic demo training, as its not used for stateside bomb squad use. I use it in Afghsnistan all the time, but ive never seen anyone stateside have a use for it besides demo training in general. I'm a local guy.. I use it as it is cheap. With the issues that HDS has with funding, I highly doubt TSS-Es will get RSP certified anytime soon. I have a great relationship with my TSS-E group. They are very helpful when traveling and put on some great drills at the airport. We have done some demo for them, but I have never seen them do demo on their own. |
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Oh, I don't know...
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Calibrate chemical sniffers or train explosive dogs? I cannot for the life of me understand why these hoards of Alex Jones' fans think themselves so clever for "just asking questions?" Newsflash: a passive-aggressive rhetorical question is usually de facto statement. |
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I know they're using it for training, but there is no fucking way they need that much.
Somebody is screwing around on the government's dime. What is the total number of airports? Less than 350? And the smaller ones are grouped under a region management. |
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