I don't know, but it would seem to me that a movie reset would require a rapid equalization of the two key players (resistance/first order).  Have to get the fleet out of the way.

+1 why be called the "Resistance" Shouldn't they be called the Army? If they won, who are they resisting?

 I got the impression a large portion was destroyed, but from what I've read in the new books the different member planets still have small fleets.

 
It's mentioned in the movie that the New Republic and the Republic navy are not the same as the Resistance.


It's implied that the Empire didn't completely fall and the remnants of the Empire reorganized as the First Order. So, if there is a New Republic, a Resistance and First Order which clearly has a lot of resources then to me this means that the First Order occupies several system and are in a cold war with the New Republic and the Resistance are being supplied with older gear by the New Republic to fight the First Order by proxy.

E Wings FTMFW.

Bunch of rebel homosexuals

Is there still a imperial remnant? It would be kinda neat to have first order try to ally with the old guard imperial navy proper with a thrawn type mixed in for fun. It would be like the Prussian generals of the reichswehr and hitler/brown shirts. I want to see some imperator class star destroyers and how about a executor class as well?

The Y-Wings go back to the clone wars.  They are more like the Skyraider.  The ones seen in the originals have part of their hull removed to make them easier to work on.



Clone wars era Y-wing

I would imagine the B-wings which were designed to assault capital ships were not necessary.  TIE interceptors and A-wings however.

They're very old, and very outdated.  They were in use during the Clone War.

I remember the original Y Wing toy, the cylinder wings came off when you pressed a button on top, to simulate it being blown up. It's role was literally to be destroyed.

I wasted so many hours of my freshman year of college on that game....once I figured out how to copy my profile and rename it, my wingmen were awesome. Used to harass star destroyers with a single x wing just to rack up tie fighter kills. And I did it all using my mouse to fly.

The big ass fleet is with the Republic. Leia gets pissed that the new government won't take the Imperial remnants like the First Order seriously, so she leaves to create the Resistance.

 

JJ Abrams designed the First Order with the thought that, "what would happen if the Nazis escaped somewhere and started over again." The First Order wants to finish what the Emperor started and that's the major reason they build another planet killing weapon, because that was Palpatine's vision. "Fear will keep them in line" blah blah.


I feel like Snoke might end up being Palpatine's secret apprentice or something like that.

If you're talking about the original Y-Wing that fit the Kenner figures, no it fucking well did not.  It had two buttons, one swiveled the top guns and made noise, the other dropped a bomb.

 

Then which one fell apart when you hit a button? I remember that, and there was something else about the wings coming off the y wing that made it a shitty toy.

The panels on the TIE Fighter toy popped off.


And the engines on the smaller diecast Y-wings came off as well.
I definitely remember that because I turned them around and made an E-wing fighter.

On a loose tangent...
perhaps the Kessel run is a measure of shipping and transport efficiency. The better a ship can economize on plotting and navigating the "run", that is the shortest distance among all the points within a set time AND distance, the better or lower the rating. Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs could be equivalent to making the NYC to LAX flight in under 2200 miles.

Which would be some feat requiring a bit of time/space bending, and perhaps a bit of turbo.

Afterall, you don't want to plot your way through a star when making the jump to hyperspace for the NY->LA route. Maybe there's a bit of planet in the way that the hyperspace computers can compensate for and work around. Great circle route IS NOT the shortest distance if you can bend space.

Of course it could just be that George Lucas is a ninny.

Occam and shit.

There are reasons it's referred to in EU as "Pig", "Whishbone" etc.

It's slow, maneuvers like a cow on ice, and has shit sensors. But, it packs a wallop, is plentiful so plenty of spare parts, and commonly available. Pick your poison.

The Resistance is private army being funded by Leia and several affluent senators that don't agree with the Republic Status Qou of basically ignoring the First Order/remaining Imperial forces.

Not surprising considering there were only two squadrons worth at most for the resistance.  The X-wing was always the GP fighter, A and B wings were more specialized and you would expect to find them with larger fleets.

 

The speeder bike did.

The TIE fighter did that.

*Snort* What you did there. I see it.

That's an ugly fucking space-fighter. Shit, even the Y-wing is prettier than it. And that's saying something.

Yeah, because where have we seen that before?

Wait, with the dorsal cannon mounted like that, how do you get in or out of the bitch?

It's odd, when you think about it, that a movie series that was literally designed around commercialization in the form of kids toys, would get bought up by the world's largest children's entertainment corporation...and they would completely and utterly fail to monetize by offering an assortment of toys.

How many vehicles are there in TFA?  We see the new X-Wing and TIE Fighters, the Falcon, a single class of current-gen Star Destroyer, a landing craft, an Imperial shuttle, a Resistance shuttle, Rey's speeder, the small ship that gets blown up as Rey and Finn run towards it, and Han's shitty bulk freighter.  And apparently Rey and Finn somehow grab a snow speeder thing on Starkiller Base in between cuts (looks suspiciously like we lost a scene or two between their finding Rey and Han's showdown with Ren).

I hate to say it, but what the fuck JJ?  Where'd all the other cool ships go?  Both the Resistance and the First Order have zero diversity in their ship designs..and the Resistance doesn't even have cap ships.  Hell, for all we know the First Order only has one fucking Star Destroyer.  We're literally shown more diversity in the form of burnt-out wrecks littering the plains of Jakku than we are intact ships being used.  In a galaxy of hundreds of millions of inhabited planets, the idea that a group consisting of (AT MOST) two squadrons of starfighters, has any relevancy in galactic affairs...is simply insane.  It's like we're watching a movie about a handful of villagers conducting a raid on a tiny temporary FOB in a remote Afghan province...but with all of the trappings and signs of a massive world-shaking event.

Say what you will about the prequels, at least they did a decent job of giving us a fair impression of the Galactic Republic (and then Empire) as a true galaxy-spanning entity with countless worlds and cultures.  It could have been better, but we *did* get to see a huge number of vessels, both in quantity and variety, in active use across many different planets.  TFA gives us Jakku with two small villages, Starkiller Base with some Copy-Pasted Imperials, a smaller and shittier Yavin IV base, and a small jungle bar that magically doesn't even have a landing pad (despite being inhabited by dozens and dozens of sentients who magically vaporize when the First Order strikes).  Did the Galactic War cause the extinction of 99.99999999% of sentients in the galaxy?  Did Disney run out of money for CGI?  Or does JJ Abrams just not give a fuck about giving any sense of scale or wonder...only in setting up the by-the-numbers scenes designed to replicate ANH piece by piece?

There was also an X-wing, about 6-8" long, with a button sticking out the ass end, connected to a bungee cord inside. Push it in, bungee goes loose and the wings and nose fall off the sucker.

Hey now, don't go shitting on a man's ship. Not like it made two Death Star runs, or anything. Oh, and not to mention voiding getting ett by an asteroid dwelling giant worm thing.

He already said the Falcon. He's talking about that piece of shit he was on with the giant, pissed off creature about halfway through the movie.

they also spent the last 30 years and millions of credits on a joint service blaster pistol and a competition to replace their aging blaster rifles and ended up changing nothing.

I was surprised there were no B wings as according to canon (Star Wars Rebels) now they are a relatively new ship compared to the Y wing.

Exactly...

As a pilot, and a huge Star Wars fan, what has always irked me is the over simplified and useless cockpit design of the X-wing.

Canopy slides forward and you wiggle past it to get in? porkins aint going to be flying it though

 

Gotta keep introducing new ships and new characters to sell fucking toys.

Oops. I mean "action figures."

Rebel space ops were overrun by X Wing jocks in the upper echelons. Same as the USAF.  :(

The Y-Wing was always my favorite.

Kicked ass in Rebels (where they actually met the little guy that developed the thing...and then got to use the prototype to fuck up some star destroyers...)







 

what about this game?

They assaulted an entire planet, or not-death star.  I would think their bombs would've come in handy.  Of course, that would've totally ruined Poe's daring lone raid to destroy it.

I liked the show, but always thought the B-Wing was better in the games in the 90s.  Not that it could blow up an entire capital ship with one blast.

Worse, its controlled by a teenage girl, the daughter of some senator, who accompanies a few operations and suddenly she thinks she's an account operator and general. She promoted the shrimp guy because his smell reminds her of childhood troops to the sea. She made her douchebag boyfriend into a general, who then make his smuggler buddies of varying loyalties into generals too. Like making Chelsea Clinton the Secretary of Defense back when she was 19.

The daring pilot Poe probably got his commission because he was banging chunky old Leia. Toss the royal salad and you get command of your own squadron.

Between the obvious nepotism and cronyism of the Rebel Alliance and the Resistance and the outright ridiculous ideology you're forced to accept in the First Order, and obeying a angst filled emo wizard, its a sad state of affairs for all those desiring military service.

I just read Aftermath which takes place after Return of the Jedi.  Mon Mothma put to vote cutting the Republic's military presence by 90%.  I think this is about the time when the Resistance was formed.

There would have been way more, but the models didn't really show it.  Home One alone carried 10 squadrons and a standard Mon Calamari Cruiser carried 3.  I always thought that Lucas should have used the CGI to show a much larger battle at Endor then he did.  



 

Thank god we took the reins away from him