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Quoted: Yup. Had to get a 16550 UART serial board when I bought a new modem one time. I forget what the speed jump in bps was where you needed the faster serial port. I really don't miss having to set I/O and IRQ settings with jumpers View Quote Iirc 9600baud was about the max for an 8250. I never had an external modem that fast so never had to buy a 16550 IO board. Remember Winmodems? I didn't know any better when I built my K6-2 and had to get a real modem when I wanted to get online with Linux. Got cable not long after that. The performance jump from a Winmodem to a hardware modem was huge. It took a decent amount of CPU power to do soft modem at 56k |
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Quoted: For several years in the mid 90s I had free dialup internet and my parents never even asked where it was coming from. They had no idea you even had to pay for it. The secret: my friend's dad had a local ISP dialup account and I swiped his login info while fixing his computer. A smart ISP would have had user accounting of some sort to prevent the same user from dialing in multiple times. This one didn't. So he could be online the same time as I was. He was paying flat rate so nobody ever noticed. I remember downloading the grainy Pam Anderson /Tommy Lee video on 28.8k. Some of the first video porn I'd ever seen. My first online gaming was playing Duke3d on direct modem play with friends from school At some point my parents wanted their own email address and wanted to go with AOL so that train ended. Fortunately we got cable internet in 98. Everyone came over to my house to download stuff since I also had a CD burner. Downloading entire albums on napster and handing out CD copies to all my friends, good times. Then not long after that Kazaa/Linewire showed up with full games/apps and ripped movie VCDs. Much piracy. I also remember @Home put everyone on what was basically a single Ethernet segment and didn't filter NetBIOS/SMB traffic. If you opened Network Neighborhood you would see your neighbors Windows PCs and workgroups listed. You could access shares drives if they had no password. View Quote I had 10 years of not paying for cable internet because my cable modem Account from @home got bought by local MSO and I guess they just said “fuck it, not many modems/subscribers so just let them auth”. |
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I was only aware of the internet for about a year before we got cable. "Broadband" by the time I was old enough to search for porn. Not aware of how easy it was to get caught
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Quoted: 38400 baud. Your modem is way too new. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Favorite game was Legend of the Red Dragon, and for those old enough to remember that one, you can still play a version of it. LOGD @unsub073 This is an amazing coincidence. I was messaging back and forth with a guy on The Cave BBS today and that game is on there! Also Operation Overkill and Trade Wars. Here’s the address if you have a Telnet program. cavebbs.homeip.net https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/259519/391EED69-E128-4E34-BA22-FB3BF9AF25C3_jpe-1472524.JPG 38400 baud. Your modem is way too new. I’m a poser. |
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Quoted: I've had an iPhone for 12 years, I don't remember that. View Quote I remember those sync tones and dial up days, along with some very grainy porn stills. To almost date myself, I worked on tube equipment when it was in style, toroid magnet memory devices, teletype, DRPE, and mag tape equipment, at a SME level. Early crypto too.......... |
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Quoted: As a hardcore network guy of 30 years...I need a reliable serial port. You can take my mini pcmcia with an actual 16550 chip on it from my cold dead hands. Whoops. 16950. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/418896/image-1472670.jpg View Quote Nice. The last thing I needed a geniune serial port was some satcom equipment that required an ISDN modem. Had to have full 128kbit port speed, would not work with a USB serial adapter. In use up until a couple years ago. Glad to be gone of ISDN I just threw out some of the last of my serial gear a few months back. Some PCI Express 16550 cards and even a few 16-port card that used a huge breakout cable. I have a nice RS-232/422 breakout box that I still use from time to time. We still do a lot of serial work in the marine field to carry NMEA instrument data between devices |
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Quoted: What ever happened to AOL? It was great at the time, mid 90's, but yeah it sucked. I had dial up until about 6 or 8 years ago. I have DSL now, still slow a shit by today's standards. View Quote The Reston VA data center was sold. The Gainesville VA data center was sold to Microsoft then Google if I recall correctly. I used to be assigned to them 2000 -2008) as a consultant working for a different company. As much as people laugh and make fun of them, it was the best work environment I have ever been in. State of the art in everything they did on the backend of things. In some ways I wish they never fell. My first computer with a modem was an IBM 486 (Cyrix CPU) used it to call my buddies to plan Duke Nukem3d. I had an Apple 2c back in 1982 but never had a modem for it. Today I have an Apple 2gs that still works, and is connected to internet with an Ethernet card. |
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Quoted: They are still around but a fraction of the size they were back in the day. The Reston VA data center was sold. The Gainesville VA data center was sold to Microsoft then Google if I recall correctly. I used to be assigned to them 2000 -2008) as a consultant working for a different company. As much as people laugh and make fun of them, it was the best work environment I have ever been in. State of the art in everything they did on the backend of things. In some ways I wish they never fell. My first computer with a modem was an IBM 486 (Cyrix CPU) used it to call my buddies to plan Duke Nukem3d. I had an Apple 2c back in 1982 but never had a modem for it. Today I have an Apple 2gs that still works, and is connected to internet with an Ethernet card. View Quote Nice I had a IIcx that I got A/UX Unix running on with a supported Ethernet card. Fun to play with SVR3 Unix on an old Mac, managed to compile irssi on it and go on IRC, etc. I left it running for so long in the basement that it blew the main board caps and corroded the main board. Didn't check on it for months until I found it dead Having to recompile the kernel to change your IP address... Lol |
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Quoted: Nice. The last thing I needed a geniune serial port was some satcom equipment that required an ISDN modem. Had to have full 128kbit port speed, would not work with a USB serial adapter. In use up until a couple years ago. Glad to be gone of ISDN View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: As a hardcore network guy of 30 years...I need a reliable serial port. You can take my mini pcmcia with an actual 16550 chip on it from my cold dead hands. Whoops. 16950. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/418896/image-1472670.jpg Nice. The last thing I needed a geniune serial port was some satcom equipment that required an ISDN modem. Had to have full 128kbit port speed, would not work with a USB serial adapter. In use up until a couple years ago. Glad to be gone of ISDN When the shit hits the fan on network gear, you want dat hard serial connection with a uart. 9600 8N1 When a million dollar router goes full tits up, four paws in the air, you need old school. I’ve had tons of trouble with USB ports on network gear. A real serial connection is required. All that usb driver shit can’t load on the gear, it’s four paws, gimme terminal A full blown 10 million buck mainframe still has a hard serial port, as does network gear. |
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Quoted: I was technically on the Internet in college in late 80s. Had to pay extra to have the 1200/2400 baud terminal connection in the dorm. I remember fingering lots of chics (you Unix dogs know what I mean). I was fingering and chatting with girls all over the world. And this new thing called e-mail. Then I discovered Usenet/nntp which we don’t talk about. The very first social media as the nntp feeds were replicated across the world, not just to the BBS host. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I remember overclocking my Packard Bell from 150MGz to 300 and felt like a genius after. My first PC was an IBM Aptiva with Win95 with 16mb of ram and a 200GB hard drive...impressive numbers for only costing $1700 I was technically on the Internet in college in late 80s. Had to pay extra to have the 1200/2400 baud terminal connection in the dorm. I remember fingering lots of chics (you Unix dogs know what I mean). I was fingering and chatting with girls all over the world. And this new thing called e-mail. Then I discovered Usenet/nntp which we don’t talk about. The very first social media as the nntp feeds were replicated across the world, not just to the BBS host. Usenet is still a thing. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.howtogeek.com/71315/the-how-to-geek-guide-to-getting-started-with-usenet/amp/ |
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I grew up in RI and even in the smallest state in the union it was "long distance" to call the other side of the state and, of course, the best connections were in the more rural parts of the state that had no traffic.
Luckily, the phone company offered an unlimited in-state long distance plan. Even though I was paying a flat rate the bill still broke down what the normal charges would be. Once I got heavy into online gaming I would routinely rack up thousands of dollars of free long distance. |
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I'm so old I remember the Internet before AOL. I worked at AT&T starting in 1982, AT&T was the main hub for Usenet in those early years. There was noticeable difference in volume and type of traffic when colleges were in session vs when they weren't. Once AOL joined the party it was a constant flood of stupidity instead of seasonal. No offense intended.
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Quoted: Usenet is still a thing. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.howtogeek.com/71315/the-how-to-geek-guide-to-getting-started-with-usenet/amp/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I remember overclocking my Packard Bell from 150MGz to 300 and felt like a genius after. My first PC was an IBM Aptiva with Win95 with 16mb of ram and a 200GB hard drive...impressive numbers for only costing $1700 I was technically on the Internet in college in late 80s. Had to pay extra to have the 1200/2400 baud terminal connection in the dorm. I remember fingering lots of chics (you Unix dogs know what I mean). I was fingering and chatting with girls all over the world. And this new thing called e-mail. Then I discovered Usenet/nntp which we don’t talk about. The very first social media as the nntp feeds were replicated across the world, not just to the BBS host. Usenet is still a thing. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.howtogeek.com/71315/the-how-to-geek-guide-to-getting-started-with-usenet/amp/ We don’t utter that word, best left unspoken. |
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Quoted: Iirc 9600baud was about the max for an 8250. I never had an external modem that fast so never had to buy a 16550 IO board. Remember Winmodems? I didn't know any better when I built my K6-2 and had to get a real modem when I wanted to get online with Linux. Got cable not long after that. The performance jump from a Winmodem to a hardware modem was huge. It took a decent amount of CPU power to do soft modem at 56k View Quote |
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Quoted: As a hardcore network guy of 30 years...I need a reliable serial port. You can take my mini pcmcia with an actual 16550 chip on it from my cold dead hands. Whoops. 16950. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/418896/image-1472670.jpg View Quote |
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Quoted: When the shit hits the fan on network gear, you want dat hard serial connection with a uart. 9600 8N1 When a million dollar router goes full tits up, four paws in the air, you need old school. I've had tons of trouble with USB ports on network gear. A real serial connection is required. All that usb driver shit can't load on the gear, it's four paws, gimme terminal A full blown 10 million buck mainframe still has a hard serial port, as does network gear. View Quote |
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Quoted: Just pray to god you don't have to xmodem an IOS image over that serial cable. Last one I did was, I think was a 3745. Even upping from 9600 to 36k or whatever it took forever. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: When the shit hits the fan on network gear, you want dat hard serial connection with a uart. 9600 8N1 When a million dollar router goes full tits up, four paws in the air, you need old school. I've had tons of trouble with USB ports on network gear. A real serial connection is required. All that usb driver shit can't load on the gear, it's four paws, gimme terminal A full blown 10 million buck mainframe still has a hard serial port, as does network gear. Been there. Done that. Over a fucking modem 1000 miles away. |
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Quoted: I keep a couple of Panasonic toughbooks around because they have a DB9 serial port View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: As a hardcore network guy of 30 years...I need a reliable serial port. You can take my mini pcmcia with an actual 16550 chip on it from my cold dead hands. Whoops. 16950. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/418896/image-1472670.jpg I was the same, but this card has yet to fail me for 10 years. I want that uart chip. |
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Quoted: @unsub073 This is an amazing coincidence. I was messaging back and forth with a guy on The Cave BBS today and that game is on there! Also Operation Overkill and Trade Wars. Here’s the address if you have a Telnet program. cavebbs.homeip.net https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/259519/391EED69-E128-4E34-BA22-FB3BF9AF25C3_jpe-1472524.JPG View Quote I haven't played with it, but I will have to mess around with it to check out the cave. |
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There was an internet before AOL, and it was awesome. They took a lot of technical barriers out of connecting. It did not improve the experience.
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My first job was early 90s build my first network. I addressed the sites 1.1.1.1, 2.2.2.2, etc. turns out that wasn’t a good idea. This was before RFC1918 which allocates private address space like 10./8, 192.168/16 etc
Then we changed peoples machines to public ips! |
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The jump from 9600 to 56flex was noticeable but it was dsl that changed my life and powered my dive into Air Warrior. Lost about 3 or 4 years to that game. Good times.
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My Mougerk USB 3.5 floppy drive arrived, which is on par with early Teac models, and I was finally able to explore the disks I found. A few word and excel documents from 1991 as well as an operating system for Apple PS/2, but sadly no Leisure Suit Larry. It was fun formatting the disks and hearing the drive go "click...brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr".
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There was an older couple whose phone number was 1 digit off of our ISP connect number. They sure were livid at all the wrong calls they got in the middle of the night.
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Quoted: For several years in the mid 90s I had free dialup internet and my parents never even asked where it was coming from. They had no idea you even had to pay for it. The secret: my friend's dad had a local ISP dialup account and I swiped his login info while fixing his computer. A smart ISP would have had user accounting of some sort to prevent the same user from dialing in multiple times. This one didn't. So he could be online the same time as I was. He was paying flat rate so nobody ever noticed. I remember downloading the grainy Pam Anderson /Tommy Lee video on 28.8k. Some of the first video porn I'd ever seen. My first online gaming was playing Duke3d on direct modem play with friends from school At some point my parents wanted their own email address and wanted to go with AOL so that train ended. Fortunately we got cable internet in 98. Everyone came over to my house to download stuff since I also had a CD burner. Downloading entire albums on napster and handing out CD copies to all my friends, good times. Then not long after that Kazaa/Linewire showed up with full games/apps and ripped movie VCDs. Much piracy. I also remember @Home put everyone on what was basically a single Ethernet segment and didn't filter NetBIOS/SMB traffic. If you opened Network Neighborhood you would see your neighbors Windows PCs and workgroups listed. You could access shares drives if they had no password. View Quote DUDE DIRECT MODEM DUKE NUKEM WAS AMAZING |
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Quoted: DUDE DIRECT MODEM DUKE NUKEM WAS AMAZING View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: For several years in the mid 90s I had free dialup internet and my parents never even asked where it was coming from. They had no idea you even had to pay for it. The secret: my friend's dad had a local ISP dialup account and I swiped his login info while fixing his computer. A smart ISP would have had user accounting of some sort to prevent the same user from dialing in multiple times. This one didn't. So he could be online the same time as I was. He was paying flat rate so nobody ever noticed. I remember downloading the grainy Pam Anderson /Tommy Lee video on 28.8k. Some of the first video porn I'd ever seen. My first online gaming was playing Duke3d on direct modem play with friends from school At some point my parents wanted their own email address and wanted to go with AOL so that train ended. Fortunately we got cable internet in 98. Everyone came over to my house to download stuff since I also had a CD burner. Downloading entire albums on napster and handing out CD copies to all my friends, good times. Then not long after that Kazaa/Linewire showed up with full games/apps and ripped movie VCDs. Much piracy. I also remember @Home put everyone on what was basically a single Ethernet segment and didn't filter NetBIOS/SMB traffic. If you opened Network Neighborhood you would see your neighbors Windows PCs and workgroups listed. You could access shares drives if they had no password. DUDE DIRECT MODEM DUKE NUKEM WAS AMAZING Never got to play that but played a lot of Doom. I remember rage mode. |
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I remember sharing internet connection with the family on a secondary line. As only one person could be on at once, I kept hanging up the phone so it would disconnect them.
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Quoted: Lol. They probably thought “that little shit did it again.” View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I remember sharing internet connection with the family on a secondary line. As only one person could be on at once, I kept hanging up the phone so it would disconnect them. Lol. They probably thought “that little shit did it again.” I heard screams from the other side of the house. |
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Actually NO. I was online using bulletin board systems before there was even an Internet. Like 1986-1992. Had a crappy 300 baud modem, bulletin board could only handle one user at a time, so you kept your phone auto-dialing until you could get through, post your stuff, done.
Getting a 2400 baud modem was like WOW, uber-fast. Then the days of the 56k modems... whew. :) |
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Quoted: Actually NO. I was online using bulletin board systems before there was even an Internet. Like 1986-1992. Had a crappy 300 baud modem, bulletin board could only handle one user at a time, so you kept your phone auto-dialing until you could get through, post your stuff, done. Getting a 2400 baud modem was like WOW, uber-fast. Then the days of the 56k modems... whew. :) View Quote Lol. The internet existed long before 1986. I was fingering and chatting with chics in other countries in 1989. |
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Quoted: What ever happened to AOL? It was great at the time, mid 90's, but yeah it sucked. I had dial up until about 6 or 8 years ago. I have DSL now, still slow a shit by today's standards. View Quote They were slow to jump on user interfaces for faster connections, and it killed their business. |
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Quoted: At one time, AOL *owned* the internet connectivity business in the dial-up days. And they blew it. They were slow to jump on user interfaces for faster connections, and it killed their business. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What ever happened to AOL? It was great at the time, mid 90's, but yeah it sucked. I had dial up until about 6 or 8 years ago. I have DSL now, still slow a shit by today's standards. They were slow to jump on user interfaces for faster connections, and it killed their business. Not really. In the early 90s local isps were popping up everywhere. I mean everywhere. That plus http Becoming more robust and standardized and the invention of the web browser killed them. Google was in its infancy then and Netscape ruled the browser. |
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Quoted: Not really. In the early 90s local isps were popping up everywhere. I mean everywhere. That plus http Becoming more robust and standardized and the invention of the web browser killed them. Google was in its infancy then and Netscape ruled the browser. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What ever happened to AOL? It was great at the time, mid 90's, but yeah it sucked. I had dial up until about 6 or 8 years ago. I have DSL now, still slow a shit by today's standards. They were slow to jump on user interfaces for faster connections, and it killed their business. Not really. In the early 90s local isps were popping up everywhere. I mean everywhere. That plus http Becoming more robust and standardized and the invention of the web browser killed them. Google was in its infancy then and Netscape ruled the browser. The first two pieces of software i ever bought were Netscape and Redhat Linux. How the times have changed. |
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2002 when I first got Broadband internet. WinMx, Online Casinos, Yahoo chat with webcams... it was like a new fantastic world had opened up to me.
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I remember all this crap lol.
Who remembers this. Press 1 to be on the list. |
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Quoted: Usenet is still a thing. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.howtogeek.com/71315/the-how-to-geek-guide-to-getting-started-with-usenet/amp/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I remember overclocking my Packard Bell from 150MGz to 300 and felt like a genius after. My first PC was an IBM Aptiva with Win95 with 16mb of ram and a 200GB hard drive...impressive numbers for only costing $1700 I was technically on the Internet in college in late 80s. Had to pay extra to have the 1200/2400 baud terminal connection in the dorm. I remember fingering lots of chics (you Unix dogs know what I mean). I was fingering and chatting with girls all over the world. And this new thing called e-mail. Then I discovered Usenet/nntp which we don't talk about. The very first social media as the nntp feeds were replicated across the world, not just to the BBS host. Usenet is still a thing. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.howtogeek.com/71315/the-how-to-geek-guide-to-getting-started-with-usenet/amp/ alt.flame alt.karl.maldens.nose alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk |
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Trying to play Mech Warrior 4 and have family banging on the door because they can’t get on the phone.
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