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Quoted: No they don’t. Especially in northern states. HUD & dwelling code standards came about for reasons, many of them very good. “Tiny Homes” occupy an area devoid of HUD regulation due to HUD only regulating structures over 8.5” wide. They are “Homes” in name only. Many municipalities use the term “Dwelling”, which a shitty tiny home comes no where near meeting, almost all of them minimum square footage. I could go on, but there really is no point. They are a grifter crutch & have absolutely no business being used as a dwelling. Now, if being used as as a recreational vehicle that may be another thing, but the whole movement of tiny homes refused to join the RVIA so as to be considered legally as a travel trailer, which they more closely align, so fuck them. They made there bed now reap the shit storm. View Quote Damned upptiy rich people |
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It's perfectly legal to have a TT, 5th wheel or motor home on your property in my county. You can even hook up power, cable, water and the sewer to it. The catch, you can only legally inhabit it 21 days of every 60 days. I'm sure this is pretty much the rule statewide in non incorporated areas.
Trying this in a city? Good luck dumbass. |
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Quoted: So, you can't park trailers on someone else's lot and live in them. People would be turning their home properties into mobile home parks. If they weren't doing it for a business, I could see a completely valid argument. But this is a business for them. And targeting Californians that have destroyed Idaho is fine. They went there as missionaries and have destroyed the state. This lady is claiming residency in CA so she isn't paying income tax in ID or paying them anything, but says she now has no place to live? Something is off. And this setback looks good. https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA10Loz8.img?w=768&h=432&m=6&x=328&y=206&s=56&d=56 View Quote GUILTY |
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Quoted: No they don’t. Especially in northern states. HUD & dwelling code standards came about for reasons, many of them very good. “Tiny Homes” occupy an area devoid of HUD regulation due to HUD only regulating structures over 8.5” wide. They are “Homes” in name only. Many municipalities use the term “Dwelling”, which a shitty tiny home comes no where near meeting, almost all of them minimum square footage. I could go on, but there really is no point. They are a grifter crutch & have absolutely no business being used as a dwelling. Now, if being used as as a recreational vehicle that may be another thing, but the whole movement of tiny homes refused to join the RVIA so as to be considered legally as a travel trailer, which they more closely align, so fuck them. They made their bed now reap the shit storm. View Quote Good thing nobody gives a shit what you think. I could care less if someone else decides a tiny home is all they need in life. |
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Quoted: This I 210 support both the property owner and the "tiny home woman." This is going to royally bite Meridian in the ass. For the record, I live in McCall. I have met more "born and raised Idahoans" who far and away supersede most batshit crazy progressives than Californians by a loooong country mile. Hell, some of the most staunch conservatives I know in Idaho are ..from CA. View Quote I see this all the time here in TN. The most solid pro-liberty people we meet are the 'foreigners' from other states. |
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Quoted: They have to be approved beforehand here. You can't just roll up like Christmas Vacation expecting to stay forever. The health department gets up your ass about the septic or sewer tie in and ensuring your septic field is sufficiently sized. Kharn View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Most zoning allows for an "accessory dwelling unit" (often called an ADU) up to 600 sq. ft. to be placed on a property that already has a primary home IF the setbacks and other conditions are met. I'm surprised these haven't become more popular. They have to be approved beforehand here. You can't just roll up like Christmas Vacation expecting to stay forever. The health department gets up your ass about the septic or sewer tie in and ensuring your septic field is sufficiently sized. Kharn Here there is no such thing as a detached living space and all the money in the world wont get you one. Go to a campground and pay the daily fee or fuck off. Even if you own an empty lot here with sewer and water they wouldn't allow that shit. If it doesn't have a concrete foundation(not a slab) its not a house period. |
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Quoted: It’s a trailer. You can’t just park your trailer wherever you want and live there. It was called a “secondary home” because it was on somebody else’s property that wasn’t zoned or taxed for a second permanent residence. View Quote Usually, all you have to do is move it occasionally and don't draw attention to yourself, like annoying your neighbors. But, yeah that's technically illegal in most cities. |
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Quoted: No they don’t. Especially in northern states. HUD & dwelling code standards came about for reasons, many of them very good. “Tiny Homes” occupy an area devoid of HUD regulation due to HUD only regulating structures over 8.5” wide. They are “Homes” in name only. Many municipalities use the term “Dwelling”, which a shitty tiny home comes no where near meeting, almost all of them minimum square footage. I could go on, but there really is no point. They are a grifter crutch & have absolutely no business being used as a dwelling. Now, if being used as as a recreational vehicle that may be another thing, but the whole movement of tiny homes refused to join the RVIA so as to be considered legally as a travel trailer, which they more closely align, so fuck them. They made their bed now reap the shit storm. View Quote Tell us you like the gov to have their fingers in everything and boots on necks without telling us you're OK with and omnipresent gov. |
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Shit, here in my podunk county you can live in a camper/RV on your property while a new house is being built. But if it’s a property with a built house, there is a time limit of something like 60 or 90 days. Keeps away the rentals, etc.
Neighbor knows someone that was doing an extensive remodel that required living in the RV. Supply chain issues caused a slow down on the project. No one thought about the 60 or 90 day limit. Except the inspector that came to look at and sign off on the wiring job. He threw a hissy fit and refused to sign off until they moved the RV off the property and paid some fines. Last I heard they were now having to pay a lawyer to fight this asshole. |
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Tiny house owners throwing their shit and piss from the composting (lol) toilets on the ground is a health hazzard.
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Quoted: Trailers are taxed as personal property in some states. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Private property doesn't exist as long as you have to pay property tax |
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Mostly I think the “tiny house” idea is a bit ridiculous but based on the photo of her place that looks a bit compact but certainly it’s a livable space. The city should piss off. I know plenty of people who live in campers smaller than that.
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Quoted: Good thing nobody gives a shit what you think. I could care less if someone else decides a tiny home is all they need in life. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: No they don’t. Especially in northern states. HUD & dwelling code standards came about for reasons, many of them very good. “Tiny Homes” occupy an area devoid of HUD regulation due to HUD only regulating structures over 8.5” wide. They are “Homes” in name only. Many municipalities use the term “Dwelling”, which a shitty tiny home comes no where near meeting, almost all of them minimum square footage. I could go on, but there really is no point. They are a grifter crutch & have absolutely no business being used as a dwelling. Now, if being used as as a recreational vehicle that may be another thing, but the whole movement of tiny homes refused to join the RVIA so as to be considered legally as a travel trailer, which they more closely align, so fuck them. They made their bed now reap the shit storm. Good thing nobody gives a shit what you think. I could care less if someone else decides a tiny home is all they need in life. It has absolutely nothing to do with what I think. My perception, however, is based off the fact of an understanding of Federal HUD code & the knowledge many states have adopted that as a mandate of building code for many reasons. If a state has not adopted HUD standards then by all means allow people to live in sub-standard living conditions in urban & suburban areas. If they have adopted such build quality standards the shit “Tiny Homes” should not be allowed in those areas. They simply lack adequate insulation, build quality & much often time heating & cooling standard, not to mention minimum square footage to be nearly associated as a legitimate dwelling. |
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Quoted: Tell us you like the gov to have their fingers in everything and boots on necks without telling us you're OK with and omnipresent gov. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: No they don’t. Especially in northern states. HUD & dwelling code standards came about for reasons, many of them very good. “Tiny Homes” occupy an area devoid of HUD regulation due to HUD only regulating structures over 8.5” wide. They are “Homes” in name only. Many municipalities use the term “Dwelling”, which a shitty tiny home comes no where near meeting, almost all of them minimum square footage. I could go on, but there really is no point. They are a grifter crutch & have absolutely no business being used as a dwelling. Now, if being used as as a recreational vehicle that may be another thing, but the whole movement of tiny homes refused to join the RVIA so as to be considered legally as a travel trailer, which they more closely align, so fuck them. They made their bed now reap the shit storm. Tell us you like the gov to have their fingers in everything and boots on necks without telling us you're OK with and omnipresent gov. Come the fuck on. “Oh gramma froze to death in a shity, poorly insulated, heated by a shit ass 45k BTU 75% efficiency furnace not designed for 100% duty cycle, in sub zero temperatures, but fuck logical insulation & heating & cooling efficiency standards. If you idiots had half the experience I’ve had trying to get customers through a sub-zero winter in a unit 3x better equipped for it than these shit ass built & equipped so-called-tiny-homes you’d shut your mouths & never respond to a thread correlating to them ever again. |
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Chasidy? White painted cabinets? "Blessed" sign? Checking a lot of boxes there.
GTFO. |
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Quoted: Shit, here in my podunk county you can live in a camper/RV on your property while a new house is being built. But if it’s a property with a built house, there is a time limit of something like 60 or 90 days. Keeps away the rentals, etc. Neighbor knows someone that was doing an extensive remodel that required living in the RV. Supply chain issues caused a slow down on the project. No one thought about the 60 or 90 day limit. Except the inspector that came to look at and sign off on the wiring job. He threw a hissy fit and refused to sign off until they moved the RV off the property and paid some fines. Last I heard they were now having to pay a lawyer to fight this asshole. View Quote These kinds of stories are what push me towards the "extremist" position of "stay the fuck out of other people's business." If they are throwing shitter waste on the ground like another poster said he sees, there are plenty of health standards to solve that. But red tape isn't exactly set up to handle the bullshit that two years of government idiocy created in our response to the Chinese-Mexican Bird Flue. |
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Quoted: Come the fuck on. “Oh gramma froze to death in a shity, poorly insulated, heated by a shit ass 45k BTU 75% efficiency furnace not designed for 100% duty cycle, in sub zero temperatures, but fuck logical insulation & heating & cooling efficiency standards. If you idiots had half the experience I’ve had trying to get customers through a sub-zero winter in a unit 3x better equipped for it than these shit ass built & equipped so-called-tiny-homes you’d shut your mouths & never respond to a thread correlating to them ever again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No they don’t. Especially in northern states. HUD & dwelling code standards came about for reasons, many of them very good. “Tiny Homes” occupy an area devoid of HUD regulation due to HUD only regulating structures over 8.5” wide. They are “Homes” in name only. Many municipalities use the term “Dwelling”, which a shitty tiny home comes no where near meeting, almost all of them minimum square footage. I could go on, but there really is no point. They are a grifter crutch & have absolutely no business being used as a dwelling. Now, if being used as as a recreational vehicle that may be another thing, but the whole movement of tiny homes refused to join the RVIA so as to be considered legally as a travel trailer, which they more closely align, so fuck them. They made their bed now reap the shit storm. Tell us you like the gov to have their fingers in everything and boots on necks without telling us you're OK with and omnipresent gov. Come the fuck on. “Oh gramma froze to death in a shity, poorly insulated, heated by a shit ass 45k BTU 75% efficiency furnace not designed for 100% duty cycle, in sub zero temperatures, but fuck logical insulation & heating & cooling efficiency standards. If you idiots had half the experience I’ve had trying to get customers through a sub-zero winter in a unit 3x better equipped for it than these shit ass built & equipped so-called-tiny-homes you’d shut your mouths & never respond to a thread correlating to them ever again. Sounds like people make bad decisions. I would say, don't make use pay for their dumbass decisions. Someone wants to be stupid, let 'em. |
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I 210 support both the property owner and the "tiny home woman." This is going to royally bite Meridian in the ass. For the record, I live in McCall. I have met more "born and raised Idahoans" who far and away supersede most batshit crazy progressives than Californians by a loooong country mile. Hell, some of the most staunch conservatives I know in Idaho are ..from CA.
I was recently there. I heard the call it "McCali" |
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What's stopping her from buying a small postage stamp sized piece of dirt to park the thing on?
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Quoted: Code enforcement is just trying to keep the commies from ruining their state. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Code enforcement is just trying to keep the commies from ruining their state. Decker and Calacal’s lawyers believe they were targeted for the code violations because of their out-of-state license plates and because Calacal lives in California I rescind my prior opinion. Good eviction! |
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Quoted: I 210 support both the property owner and the "tiny home woman." This is going to royally bite Meridian in the ass. For the record, I live in McCall. I have met more "born and raised Idahoans" who far and away supersede most batshit crazy progressives than Californians by a loooong country mile. Hell, some of the most staunch conservatives I know in Idaho are ..from CA. I was recently there. I heard the call it "McCali" View Quote |
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I came here ready to be mad about government overreach, but then I read the story, applied critical thinking and came to the conclusion that the Govt is right, that while there are legit ways to live in a tiny home, this isn't one. Pay a towing company to drag that shyte back to cali and see how THAT goes for you...
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Quoted: This is about to happen in Austin. There is a mobile home park that was recently purchased and the developers want all the mobile homes gone in the next few months. Some of them are 20 years old and will cost more to move than they are worth. View Quote I honestly don't know if they were are still are a trailer park - mostly it was a mobile home park (abet the mobile homes rarely left). That said, it is a lot easier to wait for the last minute if all you have to do is rent a truck with a trailer hitch to move. |
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Change the code to include that all dwellings be on a foundation, anchored, if it was moved in on axels the axels must be removed, the building must be connected to city sewer and water, if available, if not then a approved septic and well.
The it can be used as a permanent dwelling. I really dont care what size your house is, as long as its not a health hazzard or eye sore. |
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Quoted: Most zoning allows for an "accessory dwelling unit" (often called an ADU) up to 600 sq. ft. to be placed on a property that already has a primary home IF the setbacks and other conditions are met. I'm surprised these haven't become more popular. View Quote Not in Meridian Idaho freind and they dont care what anyone thinks about it. |
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I can see both sides of the argument.
She’s not on section 8 that’s a plus. If her tiny home is discreetly located behind trees or a fence and not an eyesore I could see it being ok. I really wouldn’t want to see more than one on a property not designated as a tiny home community though. I think there’s a camping trailer on the property across from me the owners brother “single no other people” lives in they have it located behind the house out of sight. There’s no drug activity or other civil nuisance from them and they all work. |
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Problem is, once you allow one, you can't stop anyone else from doing it also. That is what communities get concerned about. No septic systems should make neighbors a wee bit concerned, especially if in a subdivision.
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Quoted: Tiny house owners throwing their shit and piss from the composting (lol) toilets on the ground is a health hazzard. View Quote Meh, wastewater treatment plants give away composted shit every day for people to put on the ground for there gardens. Hugh trucks also haul it away for compost to sell in bags to the public at lowes and home depot. Farmers also spread it on there fields. So composted human waste isn't the boogeyman that you think is! |
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IJ has a post about living legally in a tiny home
https://ij.org/case-intake/living-legally-in-a-tiny-home/ Tiny homes, sometimes defined as homes under 400 ft2, offer many benefits. Some view them as a way to simplify and downsize, and others see their quick and affordable construction as a way to combat the housing crisis. The movement has grown massively in recent years—there are a tiny home trade association, a grassroots association dedicated to improving the legal environment for tiny homes, and even several TV shows on tiny homes. But the legal landscape is still adjusting, and it can be confusing to determine whether a tiny home is within reach. This article lists five factors to consider before building or buying a tiny home, including several promising locations to consider. View Quote -- It covers zoning, building codes, wheels or no wheels, some locations where tiny homes are welcomed, permits. There are legal ways to do a tiny home and illegal ways to do them. If they're always illegal with no valid government purpose, then that gets into constitutional issues. IJ will force the city to allow tiny homes in some fashion, bet on it. |
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Quoted: These kinds of stories are what push me towards the "extremist" position of "stay the fuck out of other people's business." If they are throwing shitter waste on the ground like another poster said he sees, there are plenty of health standards to solve that. But red tape isn't exactly set up to handle the bullshit that two years of government idiocy created in our response to the Chinese-Mexican Bird Flue. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Shit, here in my podunk county you can live in a camper/RV on your property while a new house is being built. But if it’s a property with a built house, there is a time limit of something like 60 or 90 days. Keeps away the rentals, etc. Neighbor knows someone that was doing an extensive remodel that required living in the RV. Supply chain issues caused a slow down on the project. No one thought about the 60 or 90 day limit. Except the inspector that came to look at and sign off on the wiring job. He threw a hissy fit and refused to sign off until they moved the RV off the property and paid some fines. Last I heard they were now having to pay a lawyer to fight this asshole. These kinds of stories are what push me towards the "extremist" position of "stay the fuck out of other people's business." If they are throwing shitter waste on the ground like another poster said he sees, there are plenty of health standards to solve that. But red tape isn't exactly set up to handle the bullshit that two years of government idiocy created in our response to the Chinese-Mexican Bird Flue. The certificate of occupancy, health department inspection of your sewer or septic, etc, are so there aren't mystery disease outbreaks where they have to go looking for that person throwing their shit on the ground. Or a house collapses on a bunch of people who didn't know they were renting a shithole, etc. Kharn |
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Quoted: So, you can't park trailers on someone else's lot and live in them. People would be turning their home properties into mobile home parks. If they weren't doing it for a business, I could see a completely valid argument. But this is a business for them. And targeting Californians that have destroyed Idaho is fine. They went there as missionaries and have destroyed the state. This lady is claiming residency in CA so she isn't paying income tax in ID or paying them anything, but says she now has no place to live? Something is off. And this setback looks good. https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA10Loz8.img?w=768&h=432&m=6&x=328&y=206&s=56&d=56 View Quote If this was someone living on their property, or family/friend's property, I'd think differently. But this is just a cheapskate Californian trying to import their Leftist lifestyle and drive the neighborhood property values down, and the property owner is just trying to run a rent scam. |
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Quoted: This I 210 support both the property owner and the "tiny home woman." This is going to royally bite Meridian in the ass. For the record, I live in McCall. I have met more "born and raised Idahoans" who far and away supersede most batshit crazy progressives than Californians by a loooong country mile. Hell, some of the most staunch conservatives I know in Idaho are ..from CA. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Tiny home woman is native Idahoan. Moved to Reno Nevada in 2019 to help her mom after her grandfather died then moved back. Property owner is the Californicator. I 210 support both the property owner and the "tiny home woman." This is going to royally bite Meridian in the ass. For the record, I live in McCall. I have met more "born and raised Idahoans" who far and away supersede most batshit crazy progressives than Californians by a loooong country mile. Hell, some of the most staunch conservatives I know in Idaho are ..from CA. Am I being inconsistent and discriminating? Yes. And that's ok. |
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We are starting to get homeless infestations here, so that could explain the crackdown on this sort of thing. People in Idaho really don't want their neighborhoods to start looking like CA/OR/WA with homeless camps everywhere.
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clicked on thread,based on title,expecting to see a dwarf that owns a home...
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Quoted: I can see both sides of the argument. She’s not on section 8 that’s a plus. If her tiny home is discreetly located behind trees or a fence and not an eyesore I could see it being ok. I really wouldn’t want to see more than one on a property not designated as a tiny home community though. I think there’s a camping trailer on the property across from me the owners brother “single no other people” lives in they have it located behind the house out of sight. There’s no drug activity or other civil nuisance from them and they all work. View Quote My son was renting back yard space from his friend for $400 a month to live in his back yard in a camper. This was near St. George. He would have to drain his black water into a tank and drive up to the Pilot gas station where they had an RV dump site. Did this for about 18 months. Old ass camper trailer started falling apart due to age. 1989 model. All the plastic parts were just brittle with age. Roof started leaking and he was done with it. We gave the camper to the friend. Last I heard he was going to use the chassis for a car trailer. |
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Quoted: Meh, wastewater treatment plants give away composted shit every day for people to put on the ground for there gardens. Hugh trucks also haul it away for compost to sell in bags to the public at lowes and home depot. Farmers also spread it on there fields. So composted human waste isn't the boogeyman that you think is! View Quote The key word is "treated". Anyone with an indoor cat knows that composting toilets, like (removed CoC) is full of shit. I don't think treated human waste is a bogyman. I worked in the Camilla GA sewage treatment plant, crawling around on my hand's and knees pulling weeds out of the treated shit, so we could sell it to farmers. Interesting fact for the day: Tomato seeds pass through the human digestive system and sewage treatment plant intact and sprout readily in hot humid conditions. |
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We have some of that here as well. Caravans of campers roam around and squat on back streets until they get told to move. No sewer hook up so some park over the storm water runoff drain. They've totally overwhelmed some of the parks here with run down motor homes, campers, and tents. They get chased away every couple of months but start tricking back in later.
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