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Posted: 2/8/2021 4:01:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Goat???? Brady - 7 Titles Russell - 11 Titles. Goat = Russell. If we are crossing sports it would have to be Babe Ruth.......arguably the best left handed pitcher in the majors then switched to become the best hitter in the majors. I don't know how anyone could be that coordinated but he did it and no one else has come remotely close. Plus he won 7 world series titles with 3 as a pitcher and 4 as a hitter. That is so unusual that it would seem to be a science fiction novel rather than real life. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 4:11:34 PM EDT
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You know who dislikes Tom Brady? Losers, that’s who.
Winners appreciate, admire and respect what Brady has accomplished. He’s the ultimate underdog. Regular guy, no football pedigree like the Mannings. Not athletically gifted. Was an afterthought 199th in pick the the draft. Works his way up to backup and becomes the undisputed greatest to every play the game. He’s the ultimate team player. If he throws 5 TDs in a win, he gives everyone else the credit. He throws 5 TDs in a loss, and he takes the blame. He takes millions less in his prime for a decade for the good of the team. He makes no excuses. He’s ridiculously disciplined and holds himself accountable. Too slow. Too skinny. Not enough arm. Too old. He shrugs it all off and continues winning at the highest level. He makes losers uncomfortable. Losers want to have a cop out. They don’t want to hold themselves accountable. The guy worked his ass off and deserves every bit of what he’s achieved. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 4:12:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If we are crossing sports it would have to be Babe Ruth.......arguably the best left handed pitcher in the majors then switched to become the best hitter in the majors. I don't know how anyone could be that coordinated but he did it and no one else has come remotely close. Plus he won 7 world series titles with 3 as a pitcher and 4 as a hitter. That is so unusual that it would seem to be a science fiction novel rather than real life. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 4:13:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yogi Berra , 10 rings as a player ,3 as a coach Not the best pitcher and hitter in the league though. That accomplishment is Twilight Zone type of material. ETA: Not to take anything away from Berra though. I remember him as a young kid and he was VERY good. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 4:18:30 PM EDT
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Agreed 1000%
I would add, he knows how to put prima-donnas in their place and play as part of the team...ie. Antonio Brown. Very few players can elevate a whole teams spirit by coming on board. That kind of chutzpah is very hard to come by. Rumor is he wanted to come to SF to play and retire (since he's from the bay area). Bet they are kicking themselves on that one. Quote HistoryQuoted: You know who dislikes Tom Brady? Losers, that's who. Winners appreciate, admire and respect what Brady has accomplished. He's the ultimate underdog. Regular guy, no football pedigree like the Mannings. Not athletically gifted. Was an afterthought 199th in pick the the draft. Works his way up to backup and becomes the undisputed greatest to every play the game. He's the ultimate team player. If he throws 5 TDs in a win, he gives everyone else the credit. He throws 5 TDs in a loss, and he takes the blame. He takes millions less in his prime for a decade for the good of the team. He makes no excuses. He's ridiculously disciplined and holds himself accountable. Too slow. Too skinny. Not enough arm. Too old. He shrugs it all off and continues winning at the highest level. He makes losers uncomfortable. Losers want to have a cop out. They don't want to hold themselves accountable. The guy worked his ass off and deserves every bit of what he's achieved. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 4:21:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know who dislikes Tom Brady? Losers, that’s who. Winners appreciate, admire and respect what Brady has accomplished. He’s the ultimate underdog. Regular guy, no football pedigree like the Mannings. Not athletically gifted. Was an afterthought 199th in pick the the draft. Works his way up to backup and becomes the undisputed greatest to every play the game. He’s the ultimate team player. If he throws 5 TDs in a win, he gives everyone else the credit. He throws 5 TDs in a loss, and he takes the blame. He takes millions less in his prime for a decade for the good of the team. He makes no excuses. He’s ridiculously disciplined and holds himself accountable. Too slow. Too skinny. Not enough arm. Too old. He shrugs it all off and continues winning at the highest level. He makes losers uncomfortable. Losers want to have a cop out. They don’t want to hold themselves accountable. The guy worked his ass off and deserves every bit of what he’s achieved. Well said!!! |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 4:22:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If we are crossing sports it would have to be Babe Ruth.......arguably the best left handed pitcher in the majors then switched to become the best hitter in the majors. I don't know how anyone could be that coordinated but he did it and no one else has come remotely close. Plus he won 7 world series titles with 3 as a pitcher and 4 as a hitter. That is so unusual that it would seem to be a science fiction novel rather than real life. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Goat???? Brady - 7 Titles Russell - 11 Titles. Goat = Russell. If we are crossing sports it would have to be Babe Ruth.......arguably the best left handed pitcher in the majors then switched to become the best hitter in the majors. I don't know how anyone could be that coordinated but he did it and no one else has come remotely close. Plus he won 7 world series titles with 3 as a pitcher and 4 as a hitter. That is so unusual that it would seem to be a science fiction novel rather than real life. Russell played in an era of very few teams and very few games to win the championship. Lame comparison. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 4:25:32 PM EDT
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What did he have the PSI on the footballs set at this time?
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Posted: 2/8/2021 4:26:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russell played in an era of very few teams and very few games to win the championship. Lame comparison. Russell was great but Ruth being the best pitcher THEN the best hitter in the majors is the stuff dreams are made of. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 4:31:18 PM EDT
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Well said Brother. About closes the door on the whole discussion. Quote HistoryQuoted: You know who dislikes Tom Brady? Losers, that’s who. Winners appreciate, admire and respect what Brady has accomplished. He’s the ultimate underdog. Regular guy, no football pedigree like the Mannings. Not athletically gifted. Was an afterthought 199th in pick the the draft. Works his way up to backup and becomes the undisputed greatest to every play the game. He’s the ultimate team player. If he throws 5 TDs in a win, he gives everyone else the credit. He throws 5 TDs in a loss, and he takes the blame. He takes millions less in his prime for a decade for the good of the team. He makes no excuses. He’s ridiculously disciplined and holds himself accountable. Too slow. Too skinny. Not enough arm. Too old. He shrugs it all off and continues winning at the highest level. He makes losers uncomfortable. Losers want to have a cop out. They don’t want to hold themselves accountable. The guy worked his ass off and deserves every bit of what he’s achieved. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 6:22:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russell was great but Ruth being the best pitcher THEN the best hitter in the majors is the stuff dreams are made of. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Russell played in an era of very few teams and very few games to win the championship. Lame comparison. Russell was great but Ruth being the best pitcher THEN the best hitter in the majors is the stuff dreams are made of. And broke the all time HR record in like his 6th season. His 1st 4 seasons he was a pitcher which means he only played every 3rd or 4th game. Could you imagine a QB coming into the NFL and breaking the career passing yards record in 6 seasons (while only playing part time for the first 4). Babe Ruth is the player who most dominated his sport to me. If he had stayed a pitcher, he might have still made the HoF. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 6:25:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And broke the all time HR record in like his 6th season. His 1st 4 seasons he was a pitcher which means he only played every 3rd or 4th game. Could you imagine a QB coming into the NFL and breaking the career passing yards record in 6 seasons (while only playing part time for the first 4). Babe Ruth is the player who most dominated his sport to me. If he had stayed a pitcher, he might have still made the HoF. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Russell played in an era of very few teams and very few games to win the championship. Lame comparison. Russell was great but Ruth being the best pitcher THEN the best hitter in the majors is the stuff dreams are made of. And broke the all time HR record in like his 6th season. His 1st 4 seasons he was a pitcher which means he only played every 3rd or 4th game. Could you imagine a QB coming into the NFL and breaking the career passing yards record in 6 seasons (while only playing part time for the first 4). Babe Ruth is the player who most dominated his sport to me. If he had stayed a pitcher, he might have still made the HoF. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 6:30:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: “Pretty decent” isn’t exactly a HOF nomination. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How many people think Emmitt Smith is the greatest running back of all time? I'm a Cowboys homer and I do not think that. He always ran behind a monster line. Imo the best RB of all time is Barry Sanders. I agree. Smith and Brady are similar in many ways. They both benefit from great teams, have put up great seasons and have great career stats and championships. Truly great players but hard to say they are the best ever at their position. They certainly have had the best careers at their position though. Brady made mediocre receivers like Deion Branch look like superstars, had no running backs, and some pretty average o-lines. C’mon man.... Deion Branch was a very good receiver, they had a good running game with well rounded backs that could block and catch too and he was carried by the defense in those days. It was only later that he really came into his own as a top QB. It is those early years where he was a system guy that makes some debate this issue. Deion went elsewhere to be “the man”. Didn’t take him long to come back. He was actually pretty decent in Seattle but had lots of injuries. “Pretty decent” isn’t exactly a HOF nomination. Why would he be a hall of famer? He was a good receiver with a good QB on a team carried by their defense. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 6:34:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He was hitting more home runs than whole teams in the dead ball era Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Russell played in an era of very few teams and very few games to win the championship. Lame comparison. Russell was great but Ruth being the best pitcher THEN the best hitter in the majors is the stuff dreams are made of. And broke the all time HR record in like his 6th season. His 1st 4 seasons he was a pitcher which means he only played every 3rd or 4th game. Could you imagine a QB coming into the NFL and breaking the career passing yards record in 6 seasons (while only playing part time for the first 4). Babe Ruth is the player who most dominated his sport to me. If he had stayed a pitcher, he might have still made the HoF. Yep, and coated in tobacco so that it was hard to see. Granted they did liven the ball during his career and make them change balls once it was discolored. But, at the begining of his dominance, there were brown and soft baseballs. He completely change his sport and arguably killed gaudy stats pitchers enjoyed (like 30+ win seasons). Ken Burns series "Baseball" said that before Babe Ruth pitchers would only bare down when runners were on base. After Babe the HR made them bare down all game. Hard to maintain that kind of focus for 27 outs. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 6:38:04 PM EDT
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TB defense dominated KC.
They couldn’t breath. Any competent QB could have won that game. And yes, Brady is probably the GOAT. Except when Eli Manning is in the field. 
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Posted: 2/8/2021 6:41:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you’re a Giants fan you’re used to everybody rawdogging your ass...  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m a Giants fan, so from my perspective, Brady sucks ass. If you’re a Giants fan you’re used to everybody rawdogging your ass... 4 Super Bowl wins in 5 appearances. Championships League championships (8) NFL championships (pre-1970 AFL–NFL merger) (4) 1927, 1934, 1938, 1956 Super Bowl championships (4) 1986 (XXI), 1990 (XXV), 2007 (XLII), 2011 (XLVI) Conference championships (11) NFL Eastern: 1956, 1958, 1959, 1961, 1962, 1963 NFC: 1986, 1990, 2000, 2007, 2011 Division championships (16) NFL Eastern: 1933, 1934, 1935, 1938, 1939, 1941, 1944, 1946 NFC East: 1986, 1989, 1990, 1997, 2000, 2005, 2008, 2011 Nobody is rawdogging the New York Football Giants. Spawned Lombardi Landry Fox Crennel Payton just to name a few. But ok. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:02:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Brady is making championships to this day... what’s Eli Manning making? Eli won two, Brady is on the path to win seven and will beat the guy that everybody says is this second coming. 50 years from now nobody will know Manning’s name... Brady might still be playing driven by blowjobs from Gisele.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not Brady. lol Brady is making championships to this day... what’s Eli Manning making? Eli won two, Brady is on the path to win seven and will beat the guy that everybody says is this second coming. 50 years from now nobody will know Manning’s name... Brady might still be playing driven by blowjobs from Gisele. Bullshit Eli is going to the HOF |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:05:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ken Burns series "Baseball" said that before Babe Ruth pitchers would only bare down when runners were on base. After Babe the HR made them bare down all game. Damn! I didn't know they played "bare"??????  |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:13:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: KC depleted o-line was the difference in the game. NFL teams always skrimp on o-line back-ups. For the life of me I'll never know why. This game is a shining example of what happens when you do. The Titans also lost their o-line left tackle & it greatly changed their normal game plan against Baltimore in the play-offs. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:14:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not the best pitcher and hitter in the league though. That accomplishment is Twilight Zone type of material. ETA: Not to take anything away from Berra though. I remember him as a young kid and he was VERY good. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yogi Berra , 10 rings as a player ,3 as a coach Not the best pitcher and hitter in the league though. That accomplishment is Twilight Zone type of material. ETA: Not to take anything away from Berra though. I remember him as a young kid and he was VERY good. Well, he was a catcher so...yeah. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:17:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:18:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would he be a hall of famer? He was a good receiver with a good QB on a team carried by their defense. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How many people think Emmitt Smith is the greatest running back of all time? I'm a Cowboys homer and I do not think that. He always ran behind a monster line. Imo the best RB of all time is Barry Sanders. I agree. Smith and Brady are similar in many ways. They both benefit from great teams, have put up great seasons and have great career stats and championships. Truly great players but hard to say they are the best ever at their position. They certainly have had the best careers at their position though. Brady made mediocre receivers like Deion Branch look like superstars, had no running backs, and some pretty average o-lines. C’mon man.... Deion Branch was a very good receiver, they had a good running game with well rounded backs that could block and catch too and he was carried by the defense in those days. It was only later that he really came into his own as a top QB. It is those early years where he was a system guy that makes some debate this issue. Deion went elsewhere to be “the man”. Didn’t take him long to come back. He was actually pretty decent in Seattle but had lots of injuries. “Pretty decent” isn’t exactly a HOF nomination. Why would he be a hall of famer? He was a good receiver with a good QB on a team carried by their defense. Point is, he thought he was a superstar, but wasn’t. He just looked like one with Brady tossing the rock. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:19:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know who dislikes Tom Brady? Losers, that’s who. Winners appreciate, admire and respect what Brady has accomplished. He’s the ultimate underdog. Regular guy, no football pedigree like the Mannings. Not athletically gifted. Was an afterthought 199th in pick the the draft. Works his way up to backup and becomes the undisputed greatest to every play the game. He’s the ultimate team player. If he throws 5 TDs in a win, he gives everyone else the credit. He throws 5 TDs in a loss, and he takes the blame. He takes millions less in his prime for a decade for the good of the team. He makes no excuses. He’s ridiculously disciplined and holds himself accountable. Too slow. Too skinny. Not enough arm. Too old. He shrugs it all off and continues winning at the highest level. He makes losers uncomfortable. Losers want to have a cop out. They don’t want to hold themselves accountable. The guy worked his ass off and deserves every bit of what he’s achieved. Concur, and I don’t like New England Or Tampa. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:22:15 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What did he have the PSI on the footballs set at this time? Just for you. He had the psi set to butthurt. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:23:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn! I didn't know they played "bare"?????? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ken Burns series "Baseball" said that before Babe Ruth pitchers would only bare down when runners were on base. After Babe the HR made them bare down all game. Damn! I didn't know they played "bare"?????? Better than the wool uniforms in summer. Plus it adds an intimidation and/or distraction factor. 
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:30:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On the surface, that's a valid point. However, it fails to take into account that Emmitt Smith ran behind what is widely regarded as the best Offensive Line in NFL history. Who the hell says Dallas had the best o-line in history?  Lombardi's Packers had THE best NFL o-line in history & it's not even close. Three of them are in the NFL HOF. That's three out of five. Gale Gillingham SHOULD be in the HOF as well. Gillingham was selected to five Pro Bowls when NFL head coaches picked the team; and he was named to the Newspaper Enterprise Association All-Pro Team four times when it was selected from 1954 to 1996 by a poll of NFL players and viewed as probably the most credible of the all-pro teams. Bob Lilly of the Cowboys called Gillingham far & away the best guard he ever played against. So that's four of five that are or should be in the HOF. What's the Cowboys got?????? |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:31:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GOAT? In the modern era maybe. In the "what concussion" and "don't go over the middle" era, no. Rings. How many does YOUR GOAT have? Name who it is. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:33:05 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Goat???? Brady - 7 Titles Russell - 11 Titles. Goat = Russell. Well, if you are going to solely look at numerical titles, then Henri Richard has 11 Lord Stanley rings. So maybe Henri Richard = GOAT. Macman quietly looking to see if there is a Red Wing player with just as many, more, or nearly as many. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:33:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are far better quarterbacks than Eli that didn’t get to skate into Super Bowls on great defenses. He didn’t get them there, he just didn’t make enough mistakes for them to lose (which is still pretty good, by the way... Eli will be the worst QB of the modern era that makes it into the HOF, and that’s a sad thing). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Eli was a mediocre quarterback that surfed on great defenses (so was Peyton’s swansong). You don't win two SB's by being "mediocre" anything, much less QB. Not disagreeing that Peyton rode his defense in Denver. If you watched his play-off games, you could see he had very, very little left in his physical gas tank. He was simply just worn out. Yet he delivered a SB win despite that. There are far better quarterbacks than Eli that didn’t get to skate into Super Bowls on great defenses. He didn’t get them there, he just didn’t make enough mistakes for them to lose (which is still pretty good, by the way... Eli will be the worst QB of the modern era that makes it into the HOF, and that’s a sad thing). Dallas Cowboys fan? Eli was a tough sonofabitch. He got drilled often and got back up. Playing something close to 110 straight games. He never embarrassed his team or blamed his teammates or coaches. He owned the loses and spread the wealth on the wins. He’s one of the classiest guys and best players to lace em up. I watched him almost every game. He improved his play calling and decision making every year. He changed his throwing technique to get more zip on the ball. He had many mediocre teams and coaches. He never asked to be traded. All he wanted was the ball every Godamn Sunday. I submit other QBs got calls Eli never got. I’ve seen him staring out an ear hole with turf in his mask. No call on an obvious late hit. Yet touch the ‘other guy’ and the flag flies. And he still beat the Packers in Lambeau at 0 degrees. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:34:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Goat???? Brady - 7 Titles Russell - 11 Titles. Goat = Russell. As huge of a Celtic fan as I am, I also note Russell was surrounded by HOF players. Brady? Not so much. Huge difference. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:34:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The giants’ organization was so brilliant in every other aspect during that period, though. There were half a dozen active QBs at the time that would have out that team in 3-4 more Super Bowls. Eli wasn’t that good, just “good enough”. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: There are far better quarterbacks than Eli that didn’t get to skate into Super Bowls on great defenses. He didn’t get them there, he just didn’t make enough mistakes for them to lose (which is still pretty good, by the way... Eli will be the worst QB of the modern era that makes it into the HOF, and that’s a sad thing). I'm hoping Stafford gets his chance after being traded.........he is a good one and was always stuck with the Lions and no further explanation is needed when it comes to the fucking Lions. The giants’ organization was so brilliant in every other aspect during that period, though. There were half a dozen active QBs at the time that would have out that team in 3-4 more Super Bowls. Eli wasn’t that good, just “good enough”. I’m calling bullshit. Dallas had the best offensive line and running back a couple years ago. They did squat with it. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:35:44 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If so it makes you realize how great Eli Manning is after beating him 2x in super bowls The Gump of the Gridiron. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:36:50 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dallas Cowboys fan? Eli was a tough sonofabitch. He got drilled often and got back up. Playing something close to 110 straight games. He never embarrassed his team or blamed his teammates or coaches. He owned the loses and spread the wealth on the wins. He’s one of the classiest guys and best players to lace em up. I watched him almost every game. He improved his play calling and decision making every year. He changed his throwing technique to get more zip on the ball. He had many mediocre teams and coaches. He never asked to be traded. All he wanted was the ball every Godamn Sunday. I submit other QBs got calls Eli never got. I’ve seen him staring out an ear hole with turf in his mask. No call on an obvious late hit. Yet touch the ‘other guy’ and the flag flies. And he still beat the Packers in Lambeau at 0 degrees. My ex roommate was a Mara. I’ve been beaten to death with Giants propaganda. They were a brilliantly run and coached team, and Eli might be a nice guy, but he was a mediocre QB. There were a half dozen better QBs in the league while he was playing. He got his ass kissed for playing on a good team and having the last name Manning. He’ll eventually be in the HOF, though. That’s just reality. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:37:34 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m calling bullshit. Dallas had the best offensive line and running back a couple years ago. They did squat with it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There are far better quarterbacks than Eli that didn’t get to skate into Super Bowls on great defenses. He didn’t get them there, he just didn’t make enough mistakes for them to lose (which is still pretty good, by the way... Eli will be the worst QB of the modern era that makes it into the HOF, and that’s a sad thing). I'm hoping Stafford gets his chance after being traded.........he is a good one and was always stuck with the Lions and no further explanation is needed when it comes to the fucking Lions. The giants’ organization was so brilliant in every other aspect during that period, though. There were half a dozen active QBs at the time that would have out that team in 3-4 more Super Bowls. Eli wasn’t that good, just “good enough”. I’m calling bullshit. Dallas had the best offensive line and running back a couple years ago. They did squat with it. What does that have to do with the Giants under Tom Couglin? |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:39:32 PM EDT
[#35]
Al Bundy is the GOAT.
Bobby Boucher Jr is second. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:40:38 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Al Bundy is the GOAT. Bobby Boucher Jr is second. No love for uncle Rico? |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:42:01 PM EDT
[#37]
I used to say it (GOAT) was Bart Starr. I was wrong. It's Tom Brady.
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:44:09 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My ex roommate was a Mara. I’ve been beaten to death with Giants propaganda. They were a brilliantly run and coached team, and Eli might be a nice guy, but he was a mediocre QB. There were a half dozen better QBs in the league while he was playing. He got his ass kissed for playing on a good team and having the last name Manning. He’ll eventually be in the HOF, though. That’s just reality. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dallas Cowboys fan? Eli was a tough sonofabitch. He got drilled often and got back up. Playing something close to 110 straight games. He never embarrassed his team or blamed his teammates or coaches. He owned the loses and spread the wealth on the wins. He’s one of the classiest guys and best players to lace em up. I watched him almost every game. He improved his play calling and decision making every year. He changed his throwing technique to get more zip on the ball. He had many mediocre teams and coaches. He never asked to be traded. All he wanted was the ball every Godamn Sunday. I submit other QBs got calls Eli never got. I’ve seen him staring out an ear hole with turf in his mask. No call on an obvious late hit. Yet touch the ‘other guy’ and the flag flies. And he still beat the Packers in Lambeau at 0 degrees. My ex roommate was a Mara. I’ve been beaten to death with Giants propaganda. They were a brilliantly run and coached team, and Eli might be a nice guy, but he was a mediocre QB. There were a half dozen better QBs in the league while he was playing. He got his ass kissed for playing on a good team and having the last name Manning. He’ll eventually be in the HOF, though. That’s just reality. Eli was an absolute assassin when he was hot but he was often cold. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:45:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, if you are going to solely look at numerical titles, then Henri Richard has 11 Lord Stanley rings. So maybe Henri Richard = GOAT. Macman quietly looking to see if there is a Red Wing player with just as many, more, or nearly as many. Hockey doesn't count. Guys get traded to play in the postseason. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 8:33:55 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 4 Super Bowl wins in 5 appearances. Championships League championships (8) NFL championships (pre-1970 AFL–NFL merger) (4) 1927, 1934, 1938, 1956 Super Bowl championships (4) 1986 (XXI), 1990 (XXV), 2007 (XLII), 2011 (XLVI) Conference championships (11) NFL Eastern: 1956, 1958, 1959, 1961, 1962, 1963 NFC: 1986, 1990, 2000, 2007, 2011 Division championships (16) NFL Eastern: 1933, 1934, 1935, 1938, 1939, 1941, 1944, 1946 NFC East: 1986, 1989, 1990, 1997, 2000, 2005, 2008, 2011 Nobody is rawdogging the New York Football Giants. Spawned Lombardi Landry Fox Crennel Payton just to name a few. But ok. So they haven’t done anything in a decade... check. Thanks for proving my point. You’re living in the past. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 8:35:40 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hockey doesn't count. Guys get traded to play in the postseason. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, if you are going to solely look at numerical titles, then Henri Richard has 11 Lord Stanley rings. So maybe Henri Richard = GOAT. Macman quietly looking to see if there is a Red Wing player with just as many, more, or nearly as many. Hockey doesn't count. Guys get traded to play in the postseason. that wasnt the case when Richard played (55 to 75) |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 8:46:50 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But not Tom Brady, that’s for sure. Dude is Eli’s bitch. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I’m a Giants fan, so from my perspective, Brady sucks ass. If you’re a Giants fan you’re used to everybody rawdogging your ass... But not Tom Brady, that’s for sure. Dude is Eli’s bitch. Yeah, guy finished in his 30's and Brady is still playing. Brady has seven, the Manning's COMBINED have 4. Enjoy. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:22:55 PM EDT
[#43]
As someone above said, he is a regular guy with no Natura talent, just a big heart and the desire to prove everyone wrong. He is the underdog
Please watch this.  The Brady 6: Journey of the Legend NO ONE Wanted! |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:23:59 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So they haven’t done anything in a decade... check. Thanks for proving my point. You’re living in the past. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 4 Super Bowl wins in 5 appearances. Championships League championships (8) NFL championships (pre-1970 AFL–NFL merger) (4) 1927, 1934, 1938, 1956 Super Bowl championships (4) 1986 (XXI), 1990 (XXV), 2007 (XLII), 2011 (XLVI) Conference championships (11) NFL Eastern: 1956, 1958, 1959, 1961, 1962, 1963 NFC: 1986, 1990, 2000, 2007, 2011 Division championships (16) NFL Eastern: 1933, 1934, 1935, 1938, 1939, 1941, 1944, 1946 NFC East: 1986, 1989, 1990, 1997, 2000, 2005, 2008, 2011 Nobody is rawdogging the New York Football Giants. Spawned Lombardi Landry Fox Crennel Payton just to name a few. But ok. So they haven’t done anything in a decade... check. Thanks for proving my point. You’re living in the past. You were you one of those kids who was never loyal to your local team, but liked whoever won the Super Bowl, weren’t you? Cowboys? Steelers?  Real football fans appreciate dry spells. Thins the herd and gets rid of the fair-weather fans. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:30:51 PM EDT
[#45]
1. 7 Super Bowl rings speaks for itself
2. It’s weird that he mouth kisses his children 3. He bangs a supermodel 4. Hope he stays and wins 7 more 5. Because it may break the NFL |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:33:07 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You know who dislikes Tom Brady? Losers, that’s who. Winners appreciate, admire and respect what Brady has accomplished. He’s the ultimate underdog. Regular guy, no football pedigree like the Mannings. Not athletically gifted. Was an afterthought 199th in pick the the draft. Works his way up to backup and becomes the undisputed greatest to every play the game. He’s the ultimate team player. If he throws 5 TDs in a win, he gives everyone else the credit. He throws 5 TDs in a loss, and he takes the blame. He takes millions less in his prime for a decade for the good of the team. He makes no excuses. He’s ridiculously disciplined and holds himself accountable. Too slow. Too skinny. Not enough arm. Too old. He shrugs it all off and continues winning at the highest level. He makes losers uncomfortable. Losers want to have a cop out. They don’t want to hold themselves accountable. The guy worked his ass off and deserves every bit of what he’s achieved. 
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:34:57 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As someone above said, he is a regular guy with no Natura talent, just a big heart and the desire to prove everyone wrong. He is the underdog Please watch this.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5fdhfVrg1I
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:36:00 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You were you one of those kids who was never loyal to your local team, but liked whoever won the Super Bowl, weren’t you? Cowboys? Steelers? Real football fans appreciate dry spells. Thins the herd and gets rid of the fair-weather fans. Damn straight. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:37:12 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You know who dislikes Tom Brady? Losers, that’s who. Winners appreciate, admire and respect what Brady has accomplished. He’s the ultimate underdog. Regular guy, no football pedigree like the Mannings. Not athletically gifted. Was an afterthought 199th in pick the the draft. Works his way up to backup and becomes the undisputed greatest to every play the game. He’s the ultimate team player. If he throws 5 TDs in a win, he gives everyone else the credit. He throws 5 TDs in a loss, and he takes the blame. He takes millions less in his prime for a decade for the good of the team. He makes no excuses. He’s ridiculously disciplined and holds himself accountable. Too slow. Too skinny. Not enough arm. Too old. He shrugs it all off and continues winning at the highest level. He makes losers uncomfortable. Losers want to have a cop out. They don’t want to hold themselves accountable. The guy worked his ass off and deserves every bit of what he’s achieved. All this x10 |
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Posted: 2/9/2021 10:48:26 AM EDT
[#50]
LOLOLOLOL
Disrespect The GOAT? The GOAT never forgets. Bitch slaps the Chiefs on the way to his 6th ring. Then, goes to an NFC team and bitch slaps them directly to get his 7th.  Attached File |
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