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We really need a more effective global pandemic to thin things out.
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So the UN, the power-base of the forming 'socialist' one-world gov't disapproves of Trump pardons... I'm shocked.
Big Joe will have to rectify this somehow ($,$$$,$$$). |
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Screw those un assholes.
That whole investigation was cooked. They can piss off |
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Quoted: When did we sign the Geneva Conventions? Edit; And ratified them? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: President Donald Trump's pardons for the military contractors formerly with Blackwater who killed four Iraqi civilians violated the Geneva Convention, according to the United Nations Commission on Human Rights. .. "Pardoning the Blackwater contractors is an affront to justice and to the victims of the Nisour Square massacre and their families," Jelena Aparac, the Chair-Rapporteur of the Working Group on mercenaries. .. "The Geneva Conventions oblige States to hold war criminals accountable for their crimes, even when they act as private security contractors," she added. "These pardons violate U.S. obligations under international law and more broadly undermine humanitarian law and human rights at a global level." Aparac continued, "Ensuring accountability for such crimes is fundamental to humanity and to the community of nations. Pardons, amnesties, or any other forms of exculpation for war crimes open doors to future abuses when States contract private military and security companies for inherent state functions." https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/blackwater-pardons-geneva-convention-human-rights/2020/12/30/id/1003696/ Fuck the UN. Edit; And ratified them? Signed in 1949. Ratified in 1955. Does news get to you slow? More importantly, the provisions are enshrined in U.S. law and those men were tried under U.S. law and convicted under U.S. law. Now, because President Trump has pardoned them, we're supposed to celebrate war criminals. ALL HAIL THE GOD EMPEROR! |
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Ohhhh I'm sorry,... did the organization that's continually caught in human trafficking scandals criticize us for something?
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China and Russia are both members of the UNHCR. There are no human rights in either of those countries.
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Quoted: Signed in 1949. Ratified in 1955. Does news get to you slow? More importantly, the provisions are enshrined in U.S. law and those men were tried under U.S. law and convicted under U.S. law. Now, because President Trump has pardoned them, we're supposed to celebrate war criminals. ALL HAIL THE GOD EMPEROR! View Quote Those mercs were securing an evacuation route after a car bomb. A car ran their roadblock. Fearing another car bomb, they opened fire. What would you do? If this happened in 1945 Germany nobody would have given it a second thought. |
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So those privilege UN lawyers think we have the UN Geneva constitution that was ratified back in Sept. 17, 1787?
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Its about fuckin time we get to talk shit about the blue helmets again.
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Quoted: Those mercs were securing an evacuation route after a car bomb. A car ran their roadblock. Fearing another car bomb, they opened fire. What would you do? If this happened in 1945 Germany nobody would have given it a second thought. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Signed in 1949. Ratified in 1955. Does news get to you slow? More importantly, the provisions are enshrined in U.S. law and those men were tried under U.S. law and convicted under U.S. law. Now, because President Trump has pardoned them, we're supposed to celebrate war criminals. ALL HAIL THE GOD EMPEROR! Those mercs were securing an evacuation route after a car bomb. A car ran their roadblock. Fearing another car bomb, they opened fire. What would you do? If this happened in 1945 Germany nobody would have given it a second thought. Thanks, we've all heard their claims of what happened. As did the jury. |
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Quoted: Signed in 1949. Ratified in 1955. Does news get to you slow? More importantly, the provisions are enshrined in U.S. law and those men were tried under U.S. law and convicted under U.S. law. Now, because President Trump has pardoned them, we're supposed to celebrate war criminals. ALL HAIL THE GOD EMPEROR! View Quote They were lawfully pardoned. I don't believe anyone said you had to celebrate them. |
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Oh, the UN!!!
Feckless organization that hoovers up funding with little ROI |
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Quoted: The UN wouldn't recognize a human right if a human bit them in their collective globalist ass. Countries are ultimately sovereign. I'm more concerned about the human rights that the UN and it's forces commit and will commit, than I am with the risks of sovereign nations doing things I do or not agree with. I have no clue if pardoning those contractors is just or not, but I'll defend the Presidents right to do it. Just like Obama had the right to release criminals "who could a been his sons" back into the street. Fuck the UN. View Quote Can you say “UN sex trafficking”? |
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Spring will be here soon... I could use a couple dozen of the blue helmets for planters. W/ the bullet hole in them, the water drains out & dosent cause root rot.
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International law doesn’t exist as there is no entity/mechanism to enforce it.
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Fuck the UN, fuck the Commission on Human Rights, and fuck the Geneva Convention.
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Quoted: Signed in 1949. Ratified in 1955. Does news get to you slow? More importantly, the provisions are enshrined in U.S. law and those men were tried under U.S. law and convicted under U.S. law. Now, because President Trump has pardoned them, we're supposed to celebrate war criminals. ALL HAIL THE GOD EMPEROR! View Quote I’m not celebrating anything, but I’m not keen on sacrificing national sovereignty in a misguided attempt to appease faceless bureaucrats from a foreign land. |
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Quoted: I’m not celebrating anything, but I’m not keen on sacrificing national sovereignty in a misguided attempt to appease faceless bureaucrats from a foreign land. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Signed in 1949. Ratified in 1955. Does news get to you slow? More importantly, the provisions are enshrined in U.S. law and those men were tried under U.S. law and convicted under U.S. law. Now, because President Trump has pardoned them, we're supposed to celebrate war criminals. ALL HAIL THE GOD EMPEROR! I’m not celebrating anything, but I’m not keen on sacrificing national sovereignty in a misguided attempt to appease faceless bureaucrats from a foreign land. I'm not keen on a grievous abuse of pardon powers. But, you do you. My thing is actually real, though. And we're seeing it right before our eyes. Yours is nonsense. |
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There are certain situations where hollow points work better than FMJ, there are also situations where a 30/06 or bigger with hollow points REALLY works better than 5.56 fmj. Tell me again why we are required to use a .22 cal when bigger is better?
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Lol at this, and at "International Law" in general.
"International Law" is whatever the guy with the biggest stick says it is. Always has been. |
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Quoted: I'm not keen on a grievous abuse of pardon powers. But, you do you. My thing is actually real, though. And we're seeing it right before our eyes. Yours is nonsense. View Quote Please do tell us all what "abuse" is taking place? The power to pardon is clear, whether you agree with it or not. |
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Quoted: Please do tell us all what "abuse" is taking place? The power to pardon is clear, whether you agree with it or not. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm not keen on a grievous abuse of pardon powers. But, you do you. My thing is actually real, though. And we're seeing it right before our eyes. Yours is nonsense. Please do tell us all what "abuse" is taking place? The power to pardon is clear, whether you agree with it or not. The power to pardon is indeed clear, and hasn't really had any limits imposed by the Courts. Using it like the President just did, to reward criminal activity in the name of loyalty and pander to, well, this crowd by pardoning war criminals, is abusive. But, likely legal. |
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In all seriousness, were the blackwater contractors actually guilty? I'm not a fan of pardoning actual guilty people just to piss off liberals as Trump seems to be doing in some of these cases. See this case
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/12/29/trump-pardons-stephanie-mohr-prince-georges/ |
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Quoted: In all seriousness, were the blackwater contractors actually guilty? I'm not a fan of pardoning actual guilty people just to piss off liberals as Trump seems to be doing in some of these cases. View Quote They went all death blossom during a routine traffic control op, blamed a Kia they thought was a bomb (it wasn't) killed 14 people including, IIRC and 11 and 13 year old which had nothing to do with the Kia. Not one shot from any direction or source was ever directed at them during the whole "firefight" which was more like a SPENDEX. The U.S. prosecutors were willing to give the benefit if the doubt over the Kia, and did. Even with that, it was a massively disproportionate response to a scenario that unfolded routinely over there, and usually at worst let to an innocent but inattentive driver getting killed. Shit happens. Shit happened a lot. Several of the guards never fired a shot, as they saw nothing worth firing at. The shit that happened that day made many people who were accustomed to that kind of shit stop and go, "what the fuck was that all about?" |
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Quoted: The power to pardon is indeed clear, and hasn't really had any limits imposed by the Courts. Using it like the President just did, to reward criminal activity in the name of loyalty and pander to, well, this crowd by pardoning war criminals, is abusive. But, likely legal. View Quote Pretty much any person receiving a pardon is a criminal. Rank has its privileges, whether D or R, and one of the privileges/powers of the Chief Executive is the pardon. The fact is, Trump is nowhere near the top of the list when it comes to pardons. I would look to some of the other Presidents for "abuses" before Trump. I'm not celebrating, nor am I losing any sleep over this. |
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Quoted: Signed in 1949. Ratified in 1955. Does news get to you slow? More importantly, the provisions are enshrined in U.S. law and those men were tried under U.S. law and convicted under U.S. law. Now, because President Trump has pardoned them, we're supposed to celebrate war criminals. ALL HAIL THE GOD EMPEROR! View Quote I'm celebrating. Those guys, and WPPS contractors in general, received training and signed declarations which subjected them to both the State Department's BDS and Embassy Baghdad's site-specific firearms and EOF policies. Those guys got railroaded. War criminals my fucking ass. |
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Quoted: They went all death blossom during a routine traffic control op, blamed a Kia they thought was a bomb (it wasn't) killed 14 people including, IIRC and 11 and 13 year old which had nothing to do with the Kia. Not one shot from any direction or source was ever directed at them during the whole "firefight" which was more like a SPENDEX. The U.S. prosecutors were willing to give the benefit if the doubt over the Kia, and did. Even with that, it was a massively disproportionate response to a scenario that unfolded routinely over there, and usually at worst let to an innocent but inattentive driver getting killed. Shit happens. Shit happened a lot. Several of the guards never fired a shot, as they saw nothing worth firing at. The shit that happened that day made many people who were accustomed to that kind of shit stop and go, "what the fuck was that all about?" View Quote Wrong. The FBI in their infinite wisdom were unable to match the stuck rounds and casings to the weapons fired by the contractors. Raven 23 took fire -- whether from insurgents, or angry and armed locals and blue-shirt police is the question. |
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The UN is just pissed that they don't get their way. They were pissed when the USA didn't go along with their world wide arms restrictions a few years back.
I have seen the UN as a laughing stock for years. When they wouldn't even intervene to stop the killing in Ruanda, or Darfur I knew that they really didn't give a shit about stopping genocide. I'm not a fan of the new world order nonsense, but if the UN is going to exist and get credibility, they will have to use more forceful military interventions when it is necessary. So far, they seem to do only partial measures, and want the USA to do most of the heavy lifting. |
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ok ill say it fuk it, they shouldn't have been given a pardon
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