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Posted: 4/29/2023 2:34:25 PM EDT
[#1]
1st, 2nd, 3rd posts nailed it
I admit I have gotten some pretty good deals in the past from sellers who posted ads with no pics or with MO payment requirement. Just not worth it to be bothered with these sellers anymore. A big LOL to the guys trying to sell a $10-20k Rolex with no pics. |
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Posted: 4/29/2023 2:35:55 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No pics FPNI |
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Posted: 4/29/2023 2:38:54 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted: No pics Quoted: "Email or text for pics." Quoted: USPS MO order only Not a red flag. Just a nope. (Your thread title doesn't match the last sentence in your OP)  |
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Posted: 4/29/2023 2:48:36 PM EDT
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For everyone that won't deal with someone with no feedback, how the hell are you supposed to get feedback when you can't buy or sell anything? There have been two times that I would have bought blackpowder firearms with no bargaining, pay the full price and go on, but nope, "Less than 10 EE transactions, I won't sell to you". I quit even checking the EE boards, it isn't worth it.
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Posted: 4/29/2023 2:56:14 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For everyone that won't deal with someone with no feedback, how the hell are you supposed to get feedback when you can't buy or sell anything? There have been two times that I would have bought blackpowder firearms with no bargaining, pay the full price and go on, but nope, "Less than 10 EE transactions, I won't sell to you". I quit even checking the EE boards, it isn't worth it. I’d sell or buy from you though, you’ve been here a few years and while not a high post count it’s not just a couple posts either. |
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Posted: 4/29/2023 2:56:52 PM EDT
[#6]
No PayPal, no pics, "email only"...
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Posted: 4/29/2023 2:59:47 PM EDT
[#7]
No pics = I’m not really interested in selling it. Seriously, how hard is it to post even on Imgur, which is free?
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Posted: 4/29/2023 3:01:00 PM EDT
[#8]
Members so stupid that they use the same password on multiple sites. Then one of those sites gets hacked and scammers take over Arfcom accounts. They then post too-good-to-be-true deals accepting only Zelle and Venmo and other members race each other to give their money to the scammer.
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Posted: 4/29/2023 3:14:25 PM EDT
[#9]
Extremely high number of feedback=neckbeard usually=fuck off
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Posted: 4/29/2023 3:36:29 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For everyone that won't deal with someone with no feedback, how the hell are you supposed to get feedback when you can't buy or sell anything? There have been two times that I would have bought blackpowder firearms with no bargaining, pay the full price and go on, but nope, "Less than 10 EE transactions, I won't sell to you". I quit even checking the EE boards, it isn't worth it. You build your rapport. Start small with either buying or selling accessories~ mags, grips, mounts, handguards, cans of chili, etc. Once you have some feedback, then you can jump into high value items. It’s like building credit. You don’t get a good credit score by just signing up for a credit card and then doing nothing. I wouldn’t have a problem selling to a low/no feedback user but I doubt I would buy from one |
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Posted: 4/29/2023 3:38:52 PM EDT
[#11]
No pics
"only take money orders" Ridiculous prices |
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Posted: 4/29/2023 3:57:36 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Extremely high number of feedback=neckbeard usually=fuck off Yeah I'm with you there. Bunch of fucking neckbeards!!! |
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Posted: 4/29/2023 4:06:48 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No pics, no care. Bad EE score. No one should be less than 100%. |
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Posted: 4/29/2023 4:16:45 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just love the zero feedback bullshit. You can’t get feedback if no one buys from you with zero feedback. Fucking stupid. Typical arfcommers you can buy stuff though. get a couple feedbacks that way. you have a lot of post counts. many have the one of the posting and joined a couple days prior. while some are legit, a lot of scammers do the same thing. |
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Posted: 4/29/2023 4:42:58 PM EDT
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custom butchering done to some parts for a look they wanted etc. like a section of rail missing because they cut it out.
or a bcg they dremeled on. things like that asking new prices for used, sometimes heavily. I am ok with some items being salty, but they should be priced for being salty. Not 10% less than new. asking for a copy of id. I have no problem showing it in person. but I am not giving a copy or letting you take a picture. I did try to buy a rifle and ammo deal from someone a couple hours away but ad was for shipping it. Was trying to work out when I could pick it up. They decided to sell it to someone they had to ship it to. Would have thought the ftf would be a easier transaction because it was a lot of ammo with it and not having to ship it to them, and their ffl. Oh well. I always try to leave feedback, but had a bunch that never left any for me. |
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Posted: 4/29/2023 4:46:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stippling Its custom though. |
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Posted: 4/29/2023 4:53:44 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You build your rapport. Start small with either buying or selling accessories~ mags, grips, mounts, handguards, cans of chili, etc. Once you have some feedback, then you can jump into high value items. It’s like building credit. You don’t get a good credit score by just signing up for a credit card and then doing nothing. I wouldn’t have a problem selling to a low/no feedback user but I doubt I would buy from one I don’t have a lot to say = low post count. I don’t buy and sell random junk = I don’t have feedback. If you’re really so ridiculous as to not buy from/sell to me because of that that…your loss. Thanks. (Currently working on making a multi-thousand-dollar deal happen via EE - if it falls apart, it isn’t because I didn’t hold up my end of the bargain.) |
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Posted: 5/24/2023 5:21:43 PM EDT
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Update.
Got a well deserved kick in the nuts today, by getting stupid and dealing with a new unsaying member, with zero feedback and only 3 posts. Something I wanted popped up in the EE, I worked a deal to pay for it on the 1st of the month, said “ I’ll take it “, in the thread. Only afterwards noticed sellers account was only a year old, his account wasn’t a paying member, had zero feedback and only 3 posts. UN OH. Oh shit !  sent a few messages over the last week with no answer. UN OH ! Sent one this morning asking for a pic of item with user name on paper… to help myself feel better about this deal.  Got a response ! Good news ! Whew !  Dude….. “ sorry bro, item was sold “. Well fuck.  Kinda a relief, least I didn’t lose any money. Sigh. |
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Posted: 5/24/2023 6:16:22 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For everyone that won't deal with someone with no feedback, how the hell are you supposed to get feedback when you can't buy or sell anything? There have been two times that I would have bought blackpowder firearms with no bargaining, pay the full price and go on, but nope, "Less than 10 EE transactions, I won't sell to you". I quit even checking the EE boards, it isn't worth it. I would sell to someone with zero feedback. I wouldn't buy from them unless they had a decent join date / post count. My biggest complaint is that I've only gotten feedback on about half of the transactions I've done. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 1:02:49 AM EDT
[#20]
"Email or dm for pics"
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Posted: 6/2/2023 1:15:32 AM EDT
[#21]
Join Date. Post count. Feedback. Check post history and past sales feedback if need be. If I'm buying and there's no pics I usually just skip it.
I will buy and sell smaller dollar items to newer accounts because there's not much risk involved. Look for any other red flags or weirdness. If they've been around a couple years and sold a thing or two in that time with some posts you are generally fine. I've sold and bought single items that were worth several thousand dollars on the EE without issue. Just gotta use your noggin and screen people a little bit. There will always be some risk. The want to buy are the worst. Scammers will go down page 1 and email every person saying they have their item and send them an email to paypal cash to. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 1:18:48 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anything other than F2F cash sales.  
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Posted: 6/2/2023 1:41:02 AM EDT
[#23]
I still 100% feedback on eBay. And a couple here. But I’m not doing PayPal, 1099 my ass everything I sell I’m taking a huge loss on plus depreciation. We don’t have a VAT but someone 1099ing you implies that we do.
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Posted: 6/2/2023 2:12:29 AM EDT
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Selling used for higher than from a vendor + shipping should be legal to post a link
There needs to be a seperate EE for local sales only. Or a required standardized subject line like “FTF only xx miles metro, 2letter state” Prices should always be in the subject line |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 2:27:51 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Email or text for pics." Yup. Keep right on scrolling by that bullshit |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 2:28:23 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: USPS MO order only Not a red flag. Just a nope. (Your thread title doesn’t match the last sentence in your OP) Yup. Mos are trash |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 2:29:02 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Stop paying regular PayPal/goods and services. Clearly told a dude “PayPal F&F only” and yet he sent G&S but “added the fee” for me. Fuck your fee jackass, I don’t want a 1099 from those fuckers. Cool story, i dont want literally no protection from your ass not sending me my goods or service. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 2:30:00 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just looking at the ee. Ill order retail for shipping. Healthy secondary market here locally so don't need yalls broke shit. Honestly, pretty true |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 2:38:35 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Never sell anything, face to face purchases only. Also, never make a buy in an abandoned drive in. You just got to keep an eye out on the rooftops. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 2:46:21 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I automatically pass on zero feedback. New, non-paying member will likely get passed up. I've seen ads where it is the 1st post activity ever from the seller. I chuckle and move on. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 2:51:05 AM EDT
[#31]
I like how someone generically takes like 10% off retail prices for a gun. Like no jackass you have to motivate me to buy your used item because I know when you ship it I have to pay another $30 in FFL fees. $425 for a used pistol that retails for $500 motivates noone to buy used. Sorry I dint really give a shit you only 0ut 2 mags through the barrel I may as well buy new at that price point.
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Posted: 6/2/2023 2:51:57 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just love the zero feedback bullshit. You can’t get feedback if no one buys from you with zero feedback. Fucking stupid. Typical arfcommers Everyone has to start somewhere. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 2:55:14 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The first two POs I went to to cash out the buyers MO didn't have enough cash on hand, less than $500  Just what I wanted to do with my afternoon, ride around town to various POs trying to cash that crap. No thanks. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 3:03:55 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't have a lot to say = low post count. I don't buy and sell random junk = I don't have feedback. If you're really so ridiculous as to not buy from/sell to me because of that that your loss. Thanks. (Currently working on making a multi-thousand-dollar deal happen via EE - if it falls apart, it isn't because I didn't hold up my end of the bargain.) |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 3:05:14 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Selling used for higher than from a vendor + shipping should be legal to post a link There needs to be a seperate EE for local sales only. Or a required standardized subject line like "FTF only xx miles metro, 2letter state" Prices should always be in the subject line |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 3:07:51 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can cash them at the bank. Me too, clears next day. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 4:59:06 AM EDT
[#37]
Little to no EE feedback history, recently activated account, and overpriced when available elsewhere as new.
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Posted: 6/2/2023 5:01:13 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Email or text for pics." This. When/if I sell something on the EE, I post very detailed pics. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 5:02:52 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It does offer some protection against getting ripped off. I wouldn't balk over that form of payment. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Stop paying regular PayPal/goods and services. Clearly told a dude “PayPal F&F only” and yet he sent G&S but “added the fee” for me. Fuck your fee jackass, I don’t want a 1099 from those fuckers. It does offer some protection against getting ripped off. I wouldn't balk over that form of payment. Not in firearms related transactions….even parts. They will want details of the transaction and wont touch it ….may even close your account after denying the claim. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 6:15:39 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If the seller has a funny avatar like a man with a headset on. 
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Posted: 6/2/2023 6:18:23 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted: What EE things make you you say, “screw that“, towards buying? https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/EE-scammers https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/A-heads-up-for-everyone-update-EE-related |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 7:10:54 AM EDT
[#42]
If you'd like to see pics txt me @ eight I 9 ¾ six fourteen sixty 7
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Posted: 6/2/2023 7:18:31 AM EDT
[#43]
I generally look at their last 5 feedback. Then see if they left feedback for those people. If not, I don’t generally buy from people that half ass their transactions.
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Posted: 6/2/2023 7:20:32 AM EDT
[#44]
"I'm [out of town on business/deployed/in hospital/etc] right now but my [girlfriend/buddy/familymember] will handle the transaction for me"
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Posted: 6/2/2023 7:20:46 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For everyone that won't deal with someone with no feedback, how the hell are you supposed to get feedback when you can't buy or sell anything? There have been two times that I would have bought blackpowder firearms with no bargaining, pay the full price and go on, but nope, "Less than 10 EE transactions, I won't sell to you". I quit even checking the EE boards, it isn't worth it. I’ve never had any issues with new/no feedback members when buying or selling. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 7:26:59 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Never sell anything, face to face purchases only. Also, never make a buy in an abandoned drive in. Unless you have Val Kilmer on overwatch I've done a few EE transactions and have even done some payment plans with sellers in the past. I've been lucky in not having any issues |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 7:28:19 AM EDT
[#47]
The fact that it's on the EE scares me.
 I don't trust that the person isn't scamming me. I feel the same way about eBay. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 7:37:51 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted: Pretty simple, you’re looking in the equipment exchange, see an item advertised that you want, but for some reason after looking at the ad you simply say “ fuck that “ ! And walk the hell away. What are some things you simply see as red flags ? Update. Something I wanted popped up in the EE, I worked a deal to pay for it on the 1st of the month, said “ I’ll take it “, in the thread. Only afterwards noticed sellers account was only a year old, his account wasn’t a paying member, had zero feedback and only 3 posts. UN OH. sent a few messages over the last week with no answer. UN OH ! Sent one this morning asking for a pic of item with user name on paper… Got a response ! “ sorry bro, item was sold “. Well fuck. Kinda a relief, least I didn’t lose any money. Sigh. The biggest red flag for me are people who ONLY use USPS money orders for payment. Those are a hassle to deal with as it requires a trip to the bank to deal with. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 7:53:45 AM EDT
[#49]
I’ll keep buying all the good deals you guys pass up for not having pictures. I’ll also keep buying from 0 feedback guys. Everyone has to start somewhere. I’ve been the first feedback for many new members here.
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Posted: 6/2/2023 7:57:27 AM EDT
[#50]
Lol OP thinks he got shafted
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