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Posted: 6/30/2023 8:30:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Crashworthiness standards for cars would not allow a 2200lb car to exist. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Brought back?... ...how about getting rid if the last 15-20 years of feds-mandated bullshit instead yes. Bring back 2200 lb cars with 120 hp that are fun to drive, affordable and sniff 40 mpg Crashworthiness standards for cars would not allow a 2200lb car to exist. https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a36788462/the-lightest-car-in-america-will-shock-you/ Sonic RS had a very Golf MK1 GTI feel, heavier but more power, more composed but the extra 600 was noticeable. MUCH more refined. Maybe this isn't the kind of car you're talking about @byron2112 - but nobody wants a cheap, light, fast-ish for 80s hot hatch, with better than 80s dynamics in 2023. A 2015 Sonic RS would have been a world beater in. . .1985.  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached FileBorrowed images of used for sale units |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 8:30:25 AM EDT
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Copper radiator
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Posted: 6/30/2023 8:37:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For 40 years you could get into any american made car and know where the dimmer switch was. For the past 40 years you get into a car, and start guessing. Is it pulling on the turn signal stalk? Is it twisting a ring on the turn signal stalk? Is it on the second stalk on the other side from the turn signal stalk? Just where is the dimmer switch in the cars made since the 80's, the car makers keep moving it around to different places. Another thing that is just now going away is the emergency brake. Instead of a pedal or handle, the manufacturers are starting in with these electric parking brakes, that cannot function as an emergency brake as they are either off, or on with the wheels locked up, with no way to put them on a little to slow down a moving car.. One of the things I really don't like about my 2020 Camry. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 8:41:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Full-size replacement headlamps. I'm sick of scratched, cloudy and yellowed plastic housings. The new LED are better at putting the light where you need it, but no reason glass lens covers and standard shapes couldn't be used. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 8:48:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: traffic light viewers |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 9:00:21 AM EDT
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Bring back the non-existence of emissions equipment.
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Posted: 6/30/2023 9:01:48 AM EDT
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I just bought a car with the ball chiller
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Posted: 6/30/2023 9:02:07 AM EDT
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Fuck carburetors. Are you serious Clark?
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Posted: 6/30/2023 9:14:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly this is the best answer.. so comfortable and versatile.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Give me a pickup with an Honest To God bench seat. Honestly this is the best answer.. so comfortable and versatile.. This is the way. I'd take a bench seat over any other choice. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 9:26:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Brought back?... ...how about getting rid if the last 15-20 years of feds-mandated bullshit instead You have my attention… |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 9:36:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bring back the non-existence of emissions equipment. I do that part myself |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 9:53:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fucking regular car key, with a key start ignition!! Fuck this fob shit Voted wing windows but holy shit this please.......and take the damn panic button off too you SOBs!! |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 9:55:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gas caps behind the license plate. So much cleaner Just had a young kid ask me why those went away the other day.......had no answer....assumed rear crash testing.... |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 9:57:26 AM EDT
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The bench seats were nice when you were riding with your lady friend. She could sit right next to you, or lay her face in your lap. Bucket seats dont lend well to that.
I do like it when I buy an old car and go to the locksmith to have a spare set of keys made up. Its $2 a key. Some of these new ones are $50, $200, and $300 per key that need to be special ordered. And they have to all be programmed at once, so if you lose one and have more programmed, your old key doesn't work anymore. On old cars, you can have the locks easily rekeyed so all the doors and all the ignitions in all your cars use the same $2 key. I'm with you guys on this drive by wire crap. Some new cars are even switching to steer by wire. There's no physical connection between the steering wheel and the wheels. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 9:59:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Manual transmissions... Automatic transmissions have no soul. We could be related.... |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:01:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThose were pretty nice. My wife had one of those shitty Mustang IIs back in the stone age and it had one of those in the overhead. Only decent part on the whole car. 
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:09:30 AM EDT
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Crank starters.
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:10:03 AM EDT
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Daytime running lights.
Seems it was becoming a safety standard 25 yrs ago. Motorcycles had that feature for a long time. It occurred to my a while ago after almost getting hit by a white Prius on a foggy winter day who was running in complete stealth mode. All my cars have lights of some sort that are automatically on and the Prius was fairly new. No lights to save on energy or something? |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:17:26 AM EDT
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as a dude that loves all the old stuff and hates all the new "conveniences" I have to say that floor mounted dim switches are a no go.
Hard to dim the lights when foot is on the clutch. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:19:40 AM EDT
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Non-emissions equipped diesels.
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:22:17 AM EDT
[#21]
Bumper jacks.
Miss easily being able to lift the car without fear of damage or trying to find a jack point under a car with a scissor jack. Full size spare tire and rims too. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:22:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just had a young kid ask me why those went away the other day.......had no answer....assumed rear crash testing.... they are a pain to fill, gotta pay attention as it fills other wise you get gas sloshing out. Also at times you'd get gas leakage when the filler cap was leaking. Its easier to fill and makes more sense to have a tank where the filler is significantly above the tank itself rather than just slightly above it and at an angle. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:22:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:29:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yet is does. https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a36788462/the-lightest-car-in-america-will-shock-you/ Sonic RS had a very Golf MK1 GTI feel, heavier but more power, more composed but the extra 600 was noticeable. MUCH more refined. Maybe this isn't the kind of car you're talking about @byron2112 - but nobody wants a cheap, light, fast-ish for 80s hot hatch, with better than 80s dynamics in 2023. A 2015 Sonic RS would have been a world beater in. . .1985. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0439_jpeg-2868615.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0438_jpeg-2868616.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0444_jpeg-2868628.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0443_jpeg-2868629.JPG Borrowed images of used for sale units I can literally smell the last two pictures. 
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:33:22 AM EDT
[#25]
Fuzzy dice on the rearview.
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:34:29 AM EDT
[#26]
All of it
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:37:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:39:11 AM EDT
[#28]
Who has a manual dimmer switch in 2023??
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:41:28 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d like to see new models of 2-door SUV’s with removable hardtops like the old Chevy K-10 Blazer and Ford Bronco did up until the early 90’s. They were all a major PITA to get on and off |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:41:40 AM EDT
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We called them cozy windows (triangle)
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:42:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ditch those ugly FI units for a bunch of 97s. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6163/Strombergs_jpg-2868645.JPG Wow, something that can be fixed easily in any average garage without a tow down to the shop
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:46:59 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Crashworthiness standards for cars would not allow a 2200lb car to exist. The Mazda Miata is 2100-2300lbs depending on options. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:49:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm going with the ball cooler vent. +1 http://i.imgur.com/J96O9Du.jpg http://i.imgur.com/r8Vc1.jpg That's where the knee airbag goes. Kharn |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:49:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fucking regular car key, with a key start ignition!! Fuck this fob shit Push start fucking rocks. Kharn |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 11:08:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can literally smell the last two pictures. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yet is does. https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a36788462/the-lightest-car-in-america-will-shock-you/ Sonic RS had a very Golf MK1 GTI feel, heavier but more power, more composed but the extra 600 was noticeable. MUCH more refined. Maybe this isn't the kind of car you're talking about @byron2112 - but nobody wants a cheap, light, fast-ish for 80s hot hatch, with better than 80s dynamics in 2023. A 2015 Sonic RS would have been a world beater in. . .1985. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0439_jpeg-2868615.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0438_jpeg-2868616.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0444_jpeg-2868628.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0443_jpeg-2868629.JPG Borrowed images of used for sale units I can literally smell the last two pictures.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 11:16:14 AM EDT
[#36]
First 3
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Posted: 6/30/2023 1:02:37 PM EDT
[#37]
-manual transmissions and hydraulic steering
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Posted: 6/30/2023 1:11:57 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Gasoline toilets …what? |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 1:13:08 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't believe that my mom's '65 2-door Olds Cutlass was regarded as a full sized car at the time. Oh, how I wish I had that car now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Gas caps behind the license plate. So much cleaner They only used those on full sized cars. The filler neck was long and almost horizontal. When filling the tank, you had to lock the pump handle lever on Low. Otherwise, the gas backs up and shuts off the pump. If you forget to put the gas cap back on, you'll lose at least a few gallons of gas before you stop again. Also, you're bending way over to put gas in your car. I'd rather do that standing up. Pepperidge Farm remembers I don't believe that my mom's '65 2-door Olds Cutlass was regarded as a full sized car at the time. Oh, how I wish I had that car now. Yes, the mid sized cars had them too. I remember the big cars with the behind-the-license-plate gas caps because I was a gas pump jockey who had to squat down behind some of those cars to fuel them. I had to fuel those cars slower and more carefully than the ones with higher fuel inlets, which took extra consideration when I was fueling two or three cars at a time. I think that location for the gas cap was a manufacturing shortcut for the auto manufacturers because it simplified the manufacture of one of the Quarter panels for some of their car models, due to the lack of a gas cap cover/flap/door. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 1:13:32 PM EDT
[#40]
Non-collapsible steering columns and pointy steering wheel hubs.
 Attached FileBad driving should have consequences for bad drivers |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 1:16:43 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Non-collapsible steering columns and pointy steering wheel hubs. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/158069/steering20wheel_jpg-2868804.JPG Bad driving should have consequences for bad drivers Steel dashboards and no seatbelts. That'll teach 'em. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 1:17:49 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Gasoline toilets what? Carburateur |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 1:21:02 PM EDT
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Windows that don't resonate the entire cab. I can sit in a 1967 New Yorker at highway speed and have a normal volume conversation, yet I get club volume bass throbbing in anything made past 2010.
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Posted: 6/30/2023 1:23:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Steel dashboards and no seatbelts. That'll teach 'em. Only the driver's station should be a death trap. Drive badly, die badly. Passengers should be protected so that they can shit talk the dead driver forever. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 1:29:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Automobiles are more reliable and better than ever and people here yearn for the Boomer days of absolute shit cars. The cheapest fucking Nissan versa is a better vehicle than your old shitbox of yore. 97% of the suggestions in this thread have zero to do with reliability or quality, fwiw. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 1:33:10 PM EDT
[#46]
Wing windows and foot dimmers, also 8 track players.
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Posted: 6/30/2023 1:33:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only the driver's station should be a death trap. Drive badly, die badly. Passengers should be protected so that they can shit talk the dead driver forever. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Steel dashboards and no seatbelts. That'll teach 'em. Only the driver's station should be a death trap. Drive badly, die badly. Passengers should be protected so that they can shit talk the dead driver forever. But they weren't. I remember the non-locking seat backs in my parents' early 1950s coupes. They could serve as a launching ramp for a kid (me) standing behind the passenger-side seat in the event of a serious collision. Every time mom had to hit the brakes, her right arm shot out to hold the seat back in the upright position. If the car had "three on the tree" she would have to quickly retract her right hand so she could grab a quick downshift. Most moms were better drivers back then. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 1:52:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: NEGATIVE. The old round or rectangular glass sealed beam headlamps were FAR INFERIOR to the later bulbs that are housed in the polycarbonate housings. If you live anywhere out in the country, those old headlamps can barely illuminate the road 50 ft. in front of the car, let along 300 feet out where you need it. Replaceable Halogen bulbs (H4 /2/1) were a thing for decades before the US decided to mandate sealed beams. I bought a lot of grey-market cars in the 90's ...... about 5 minutes after they were imported, the sealed beams that were installed to get them into the US got thrown in the trash, and a proper set of Hella / Marchal / Cibie Halogen lights was installed. Those overpriced, huge, and easily yellowed plastic/polycarbonate housings are trash ......and nowhere nearly as good as 1960's euro tech |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 1:55:25 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Never been in a car where the dimmer isn't on the floor or the left side stalk. Never driven a Peugeot then eh ? |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 1:57:50 PM EDT
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Read an article a while back new vehicles have over a 1,000 pounds of wiring with most not related to actualling running the car. Pre cell phone we used to order work trucks for the shop and short deliveries that had AC and heat, radio delete after we found a guy snoozing and listening to the radio for hours on end.
Late 80s Honda CRX was a small little econo box I would never own. Girlfriend had one, she thought it was cut and worked well in town. Got near 50mpg. |
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