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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:37:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ground pounders in need of definitions. What is merge and what is EA? Merge is two or more jets pointing at each other then pass each other. Top Gun has a bunch of examples. Then , electronic attack is jamming of various sorts. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:37:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Based on the eagles record I vote eagle This is the correct answer. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:38:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey now my spouse is OEM female Not judging either way. At all. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:38:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the correct answer. You can only play the teams on your schedule. By that measure the Eagle is better than the Raptor. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:39:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hot lesbian gay or guy gay, cause it matters ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Imagine 50 Marines stuck in a LSD for eternity and imagine the gay they figure out. Then its the OP of this thread. Hot lesbian gay or guy gay, cause it matters ? good question! |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:40:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: good question! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Imagine 50 Marines stuck in a LSD for eternity and imagine the gay they figure out. Then its the OP of this thread. Hot lesbian gay or guy gay, cause it matters ? good question! Fair kill. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:42:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 55,000 feet. The curvature of the earth was unmistakable and the upper sky was darker blue. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @mach What is the highest you ever flew in a F15? What was the view like? 55,000 feet. The curvature of the earth was unmistakable and the upper sky was darker blue. You're going to piss off some of the smooth brains in GD with that. 
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:45:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its kind of amazing to me that the most gayest thread in the history of ARF has an F-15 in the question. @mudEagle @Mach I'm not going to lie. the whole room is spinning because this is so gay. Its like two E-2 NFOs decided "lets make the most gay thing, ever." Its like the Top 10 Gay Broadway Musicals decided to have a Manhattan Project to make Weapons Grade Gay for a  strike into Mecca.Its like the AIDS Quilt decided to fuck South Beach to make a super gay thing. Its like a Air Battle Manager decided to make the Tsar Bomb of Gay. And won. I’m picturing you posting this from your 1995 KIA with the CD player stuck on repeat of your favorite Village People song |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:46:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And EA. People always seem to forget about dirty air. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lawyers, the threat, and the mission dictate if you go to the merge or not and what you do when you get there. Sure we would always like to kill everybody BVR and the Eagle certainly has that capability, but counter measures, mission requirements and the fucking lawyers dictate if you can kill people BVR or not and what requirements have to be met to do it. It isn't a given. And EA. People always seem to forget about dirty air.
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:46:56 PM EDT
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What are the ROE?
I'd say in a guns only dogfight, the F-16 all day. BVR? F-15 all day. American murder hornet is getting stomped unless the F-15 or F-16 makes a serious mistake. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:47:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know, I don't pontificate for paragraphs on S&M and legal stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's (contraction of it is) like you are yammering to hear yourself yammer. You know, I don't pontificate for paragraphs on S&M and legal stuff. You should, it would be more interesting and entertaining. 
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:47:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And EA. People always seem to forget about dirty air. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lawyers, the threat, and the mission dictate if you go to the merge or not and what you do when you get there. Sure we would always like to kill everybody BVR and the Eagle certainly has that capability, but counter measures, mission requirements and the fucking lawyers dictate if you can kill people BVR or not and what requirements have to be met to do it. It isn't a given. And EA. People always seem to forget about dirty air. That is because EA ....... you really can't talk about it. In fairness I did mention countermeasures. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:47:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lawyers, the threat, and the mission dictate if you go to the merge or not and what you do when you get there. Sure we would always like to kill everybody BVR and the Eagle certainly has that capability, but counter measures, mission requirements and the fucking lawyers dictate if you can kill people BVR or not and what requirements have to be met to do it. It isn't a given. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you are in a dogfight, you probably screwed up. The idea is to shoot them down before you get that close. Where is your wingman? Is he out of long-range missiles too? If you did screw up, I would hope your training is way superior to that of your opponent regardless of what fighter you are flying. If I was going to be in a dogfight I want the A Team: F-22, F-35, or F-15 EX. In this day and age, the B Team is not the best plan. Lawyers, the threat, and the mission dictate if you go to the merge or not and what you do when you get there. Sure we would always like to kill everybody BVR and the Eagle certainly has that capability, but counter measures, mission requirements and the fucking lawyers dictate if you can kill people BVR or not and what requirements have to be met to do it. It isn't a given. 
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:47:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m picturing you posting this from your 1995 KIA with the CD player stuck on repeat of your favorite Village People song And still less gay than pining for a F-15 stuff. And still less gay than say fifteen baristas talking about Pride on Juneteeth. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:49:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should, it would be more interesting and entertaining. Not in to gay stuff. You ought to ask @Mach and @FlyNavy75 and @MudEagle about weird gay stuff. I don't judge. They are all good maybe gay maybe not guys. They might even be totally straight. I don't judge. Its all legal these days. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:51:56 PM EDT
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The real answer is it doesn't matter because in the real world we don't fight each other we fight the enemy, and that is what matters no matter how much gay shit screetchjet talks about
I wonder if he is trying to tell us something. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:52:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not in to gay stuff. You ought to ask @Mach and @FlyNavy75 and @MudEagle about weird gay stuff. I don't judge. They are all good maybe gay maybe not guys. They might even be totally straight. I don't judge. Its all legal these days. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You should, it would be more interesting and entertaining. Not in to gay stuff. You ought to ask @Mach and @FlyNavy75 and @MudEagle about weird gay stuff. I don't judge. They are all good maybe gay maybe not guys. They might even be totally straight. I don't judge. Its all legal these days. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:53:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:53:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Merge is two or more jets pointing at each other then pass each other. Top Gun has a bunch of examples. Then , electronic attack is jamming of various sorts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ground pounders in need of definitions. What is merge and what is EA? Merge is two or more jets pointing at each other then pass each other. Top Gun has a bunch of examples. Then , electronic attack is jamming of various sorts.  Attached FileReminds me when I was at TACP school with all the people there to be air officers talking to their watches |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:53:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 55,000 feet. The curvature of the earth was unmistakable and the upper sky was darker blue. Liar! It was pancake flat and you know it! |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:54:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The real answer is it doesn't matter because in the real world we don't fight each other we fight the enemy, and that is what matters no matter how much gay shit screetchjet talks about I wonder if he is trying to tell us something. If there is anyone I'm into gay stuff with, Its you and not @MudEagle No judgement. See, I don't judge. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:58:03 PM EDT
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This thread turned pretty gay. LOL
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Posted: 6/15/2023 4:59:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread turned pretty gay. LOL  |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:01:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread turned pretty gay. LOL Start with "F-15 vs. F-16 vs F/A-18" Even the F-16 here guys thought "Whoa, that's like super gay. They'll immediately figure out how gay I am! They ask something like 'What's the best ferry to Fire Island?' and I'll blurt out the answer!" |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:03:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If there is anyone I'm into gay stuff with, Its you and not @MudEagle No judgement. See, I don't judge. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The real answer is it doesn't matter because in the real world we don't fight each other we fight the enemy, and that is what matters no matter how much gay shit screetchjet talks about I wonder if he is trying to tell us something. If there is anyone I'm into gay stuff with, Its you and not @MudEagle No judgement. See, I don't judge. Maybe if you had long blonde hair, big tities, heels and were OEM female and my wife was ok with it. 
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:04:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Mach They could've got BullF16 for his F-16 experience and perspective , too Ohhh, but he was banned to protect the leftists on here. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:07:02 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: MUDHEN FOR THE WIN! You DO like ‘em THICC. 
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:07:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They could've got BullF16 for his F-16 experience and perspective , too Ohhh, but he was banned to protect the leftists on here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @Mach They could've got BullF16 for his F-16 experience and perspective , too Ohhh, but he was banned to protect the leftists on here. Yeah, I am still pissed about that. Bull is a great guy. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:09:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is because EA ....... you really can't talk about it. In fairness I did mention countermeasures. Sorry I didn’t mean you forgot it, mostly talking about the unwashed masses
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:10:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe if you had long blonde hair, big tities, heels and were OEM female and my wife was ok with it. Why is your wife a bigot? |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:11:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I am still pissed about that. Bull is a great guy. What was the last straw? I liked his posts. He could be extremely rough around the edges (who isn’t here) but he was also dealing with terrible personal stuff I know. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:12:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Start with "F-15 vs. F-16 vs F/A-18" Even the F-16 here guys thought "Whoa, that's like super gay. They'll immediately figure out how gay I am! They ask something like 'What's the best ferry to Fire Island?' and I'll blurt out the answer!" You seem to be hung-up on this gay business. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:13:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 55,000 feet. The curvature of the earth was unmistakable and the upper sky was darker blue. Nope. Acquaintances of mine will take the Gulfstreams up to 510. Not me. I went to 470 a few times. I’m good. 
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:13:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What was the last straw? I liked his posts. He could be extremely rough around the edges (who isn’t here) but he was also dealing with terrible personal stuff I know. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah, I am still pissed about that. Bull is a great guy. What was the last straw? I liked his posts. He could be extremely rough around the edges (who isn’t here) but he was also dealing with terrible personal stuff I know. Someone insulted the A-10. He over reacted then retracted his statement. Still got him banned. Went and visited him a couple months ago. I worry about that guy. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:16:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lawyersthe threat, and the mission dictate if you go to the merge or not and what you do when you get there. Sure we would always like to kill everybody BVR and the Eagle certainly has that capability, but counter measures, mission requirements and the fucking lawyers dictate if you can kill people BVR or not and what requirements have to be met to do it. It isn't a given. That’s a question I have—when have the ROE’s allowed for BVR shots? Seems like they were hamstrung in Iraq (by rules and the sheer numbers of friendlies in the area). Viet Nam guys were really hamstrung by the politicians. We have all this amazing capability that gets held back by the ROE’s. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:16:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not in to gay stuff. You ought to ask @Mach and @FlyNavy75 and @MudEagle about weird gay stuff. I don't judge. They are all good maybe gay maybe not guys. They might even be totally straight. I don't judge. Its all legal these days. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You should, it would be more interesting and entertaining. Not in to gay stuff. You ought to ask @Mach and @FlyNavy75 and @MudEagle about weird gay stuff. I don't judge. They are all good maybe gay maybe not guys. They might even be totally straight. I don't judge. Its all legal these days. What happens in the ready room stays in the ready room... |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:17:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The real answer is it doesn't matter because in the real world we don't fight each other we fight the enemy, and that is what matters no matter how much gay shit screetchjet talks about I wonder if he is trying to tell us something. He certainly seems to be the resident SME in addition to LP |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:19:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What about 3x F101 Voodoos against a single F16 using cannons? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/116375/df-st-82-08170_jpg-2852520.JPG Are the F-101s carrying AIR-2 Genie nuclear warhead rockets? Because then they should win |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:20:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I am still pissed about that. Bull is a great guy. Bull got banned? I thought he went dark because he had kind of a sensitive retirement gig and his kid was still flying Eagles somewhere. There have been some pretty f’ed up bans since the sell out. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:20:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You seem to be hung-up on this gay business. I didn't start the thread! |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:20:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is your wife a bigot? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe if you had long blonde hair, big tities, heels and were OEM female and my wife was ok with it. Why is your wife a bigot? Because she is just like me. Is that a problem? |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:21:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What happens in the ready room stays in the ready room... Never done the F-16 thing. That's Ok. True Americans that I love. I love my True Gay Americans. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:21:34 PM EDT
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Dogfight? I'd vote F16 or the Hornet.
BVR fight? F15EX. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:21:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because she is just like me. Is that a problem? I wouldn't show her this thread. Just sayin'. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:22:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s a question I have—when have the ROE’s allowed for BVR shots? Seems like they were hamstrung in Iraq (by rules and the sheer numbers of friendlies in the area). Viet Nam guys were really hamstrung by the politicians. We have all this amazing capability that gets held back by the ROE’s. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lawyersthe threat, and the mission dictate if you go to the merge or not and what you do when you get there. Sure we would always like to kill everybody BVR and the Eagle certainly has that capability, but counter measures, mission requirements and the fucking lawyers dictate if you can kill people BVR or not and what requirements have to be met to do it. It isn't a given. That’s a question I have—when have the ROE’s allowed for BVR shots? Seems like they were hamstrung in Iraq (by rules and the sheer numbers of friendlies in the area). Viet Nam guys were really hamstrung by the politicians. We have all this amazing capability that gets held back by the ROE’s. The first push into Iraq, they were shooting BVR. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:23:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They could've got BullF16 for his F-16 experience and perspective , too Ohhh, but he was banned to protect the leftists on here. Bull would not go into details. He would also not talk about anything involving tactics. Once I asked something specific about 9x related to tactics and he was not amused I miss the guy though. No homo |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:24:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wouldn't show her this thread. Just sayin'. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because she is just like me. Is that a problem? I wouldn't show her this thread. Just sayin'. She used to be a member here, but lost interest |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:25:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The F15 would just punch it to create distance, then reengage. It has a shit ton more thrust than a F16 so can create distance. Let countermeasures handle the missiles that would be inbound. I know nothing about modern dogfighting, as my post clearly shows... |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:26:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone insulted the A-10. He over reacted then retracted his statement. Still got him banned. Went and visited him a couple months ago. I worry about that guy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, I am still pissed about that. Bull is a great guy. What was the last straw? I liked his posts. He could be extremely rough around the edges (who isn't here) but he was also dealing with terrible personal stuff I know. Someone insulted the A-10. He over reacted then retracted his statement. Still got him banned. Went and visited him a couple months ago. I worry about that guy. |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 5:28:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She used to be a member here, but lost interest Means she is smart than both of us. Which is a mild win in any event. |
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