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Oh this is terrible news! Tell me at least nobody misgendered them, though!!!
Also, "Army" and vessel probably shouldn't be used in the same sentence. If I can't carry it on my back, I don't need it |
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To stave off a little of the pissing contest, the following quote from A NAVAL magazine (Proceedings)
Many Americans—including many people within the Department of Defense—do not know that the U.S. Army has a large “navy.” It is called Army watercraft, and within this field are about 300 vessels and 2000 soldiers with the specific 880 and 881 military occupational skill (MOS). Army vessels range in size from 75-foot small tugs (STs) to 315-foot logistic support vessels (LSVs) in active and reserve service. Army warrant officers and soldiers man these vessels, with an LSV crew consisting of 8 officers and 27 soldiers. Small tugs operate mainly in harbors and roadsteads, LSVs and 128-foot large tugs (LTs) operate worldwide and are designed and equipped to undertake ocean crossings. Annually the Army commits $120 million dollars to maintain its waterborne capability. View Quote |
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Quoted: Despite USN and USMC propaganda, the Army has done more landings and put far more men and material ashore via beach landings, than any other service. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Army boats? Landing craft? Despite USN and USMC propaganda, the Army has done more landings and put far more men and material ashore via beach landings, than any other service. D day was minor league compared to the Pacific, and that was a Navy operation, dispute the fact that lots of army units were involved. The tyranny of distance is very real when you are invading from 5k miles away. |
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Quoted: Why is this operation even necessary? Hopefully, the Israelis don't "mistake" the floundering US vessels for hostile war ships and attack them. View Quote The operation isn't necessary as there are direct land routes available for aid through Egypt and Israel. The army isn't necessary either, so the .gov makes up reasons to keep them around, and apparently, one of the reasons is running vessels aground. |
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Quoted: Army boats? Landing craft? View Quote Yes, the Army has boats. In the Transportation and Engineer Corps. At least they did while I was serving. In fact There were quite a few to include hover craft that were used at Ft Eustis (no idea what they call that place now.) The Army even had some RO-RO (Roll On - Roll Off) ships with pre-positioned loads. Of course all of this was during the latter days of the cold war. |
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I was gonna say the Army should let the Navy do the boat thing, then I remembered that the navy isn't good at the boat thing either.
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Quoted: D day was minor league compared to the Pacific, and that was a Navy operation, dispute the fact that lots of army units were involved. The tyranny of distance is very real when you are invading from 5k miles away. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Army boats? Landing craft? Despite USN and USMC propaganda, the Army has done more landings and put far more men and material ashore via beach landings, than any other service. D day was minor league compared to the Pacific, and that was a Navy operation, dispute the fact that lots of army units were involved. The tyranny of distance is very real when you are invading from 5k miles away. So much wrong in such a short post. Congratulations I guess. It's like advanced ignorance. |
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Quoted: Mongo just prawn in game of lift. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/457055/mongo_jpeg-3223238.JPG View Quote Well... I'm not seeing any mysterious secret bloodstains that have been kept secret... |
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Quoted: D day was minor league compared to the Pacific, and that was a Navy operation, dispute the fact that lots of army units were involved. The tyranny of distance is very real when you are invading from 5k miles away. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Army boats? Landing craft? Despite USN and USMC propaganda, the Army has done more landings and put far more men and material ashore via beach landings, than any other service. D day was minor league compared to the Pacific, and that was a Navy operation, dispute the fact that lots of army units were involved. The tyranny of distance is very real when you are invading from 5k miles away. |
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Is that ship, in the distance, with possibly hundreds of containers, bound for the terrorist area?
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Quoted: Whatever you do, don't Google how many Marines were at the largest and most important beach landing in history View Quote The army chiefs specifically kept the Marines out of D day and “their” theater. They didn’t want any PR to go to the Marines. Didn’t matter as there weren’t enough Marines for the Pacific theater, Army was still needed there. |
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Let’s hope they fare better being so close to our “greatest ally” than the USS Liberty did
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Quoted: D day was minor league compared to the Pacific, and that was a Navy operation, dispute the fact that lots of army units were involved. The tyranny of distance is very real when you are invading from 5k miles away. View Quote Another victim of public schooling makes himself obvious. |
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Shit happens but I wonder if Israel will send us a towing bill?
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Quoted: Yeah you're probably right. Looking back into it they were talking about prior to/during WWII. Then later I know for a fact a Drill Sergeant told me the same was still true, then again they say a lot of shit that ain't. But my stat on the Army v Marine Pacific participation is true at least. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Maybe if you're counting zodiacs and pretending NSW doesn't exist. Otherwise I don't think so. Yeah you're probably right. Looking back into it they were talking about prior to/during WWII. Then later I know for a fact a Drill Sergeant told me the same was still true, then again they say a lot of shit that ain't. But my stat on the Army v Marine Pacific participation is true at least. I have definitely been told that as well, it's a common thing people say. Same as people saying the Navy has more aircraft than the USAF -- I don't think that's accurate either although it might be closer b/c we do have a fuckton of aircraft in the Navy. |
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I think the question in my mind is what was more important to the command team in charge of this than making sure they did their job correctly?
It smells like a case of the junior guys being told to shut up and color or “ just get it done” probably by some asinine timeline for what? |
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Quoted: Army has more boats than the other branches put together. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Army boats? Landing craft? Army has more boats than the other branches put together. And Navy has more aircraft than the Zoomies, but Army might have more aircraft (rotary and fixed wing) than either Navy or Zoomies. It's why you can go straight from HS to pilot via Army Warrant program; they need a lot of pilots. |
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Quoted: Are you figuring that number based on casualties, Numbers of participants or beaches landed on? L View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: LOL, the US ARMY has conducted three times the number of beach landings as the Marines. Maybe you should learn some history? Are you figuring that number based on casualties, Numbers of participants or beaches landed on? L The specific number is a challenge to compute. Just looking at WWII, the Invasion of the Philippines alone involved 10 Army divisions and five major islands but there were a dozen others. The same applies to the Aleutians, Marianas, New Guinea, Gilbert, Marshall Island campaigns. On the other side of the world, the Army conducted at seven amphibious landings D-Day being the most famous. Add other US wars and the numbers significantly favor the Army. A cursory count lists over 40 Army amphibious campaigns/battles with some having multiple landings as just described. |
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View Quote Waste of money, but joe didn't have it built. Obama did |
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Shouldnt have sent the Army to do a job more suited to the Navy....
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Quoted: US boots on the ground in Gaza!!
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126713/Screenshot_2024-05-25_at_12_01_21_PM_jpg-3223069.JPG View Quote God sure has one hell of a sense of humor, sending the floating dock to Israel, lol. |
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Quoted: Is that ship, in the distance, with possibly hundreds of containers, bound for the terrorist area? View Quote The article said we're sending them 150 truck per day, so yeah that and many more huge ships of our shit is being given to terrorists once again. We need an entire new government, not one person can remain, that's the only way we get this country back on track. Unfortunately, I don't ever see it happening, sure hope I'm wrong. |
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Quoted: How many atomic bombs lifted off from Normandy? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Whatever you do, don't Google how many Marines were at the largest and most important beach landing in history How many atomic bombs lifted off from Normandy? How many were needed? |
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They should call someone for help that knows about boats and shit...
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Quoted: Despite USN and USMC propaganda, the Army has done more landings and put far more men and material ashore via beach landings, than any other service. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Army boats? Landing craft? Despite USN and USMC propaganda, the Army has done more landings and put far more men and material ashore via beach landings, than any other service. Guess they can add this to the list.... |
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View Quote $320 million dollars, to support people who cheered on 9/11. No money for the US border tho. |
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Quoted: How many atomic bombs lifted off from Normandy? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Whatever you do, don't Google how many Marines were at the largest and most important beach landing in history How many atomic bombs lifted off from Normandy? How many Atomic bombs did the USMC deploy? |
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Quoted: But aren't landing craft supposed to run around? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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