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Posted: 11/15/2018 11:15:09 AM EDT
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In the original timeline this collider created a singularity that ended up consuming the earth. It will be interesting to see how it works out this time. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 11:15:17 AM EDT
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It looks like they know how to build a wall faster and bigger than we do.
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Posted: 11/15/2018 11:18:06 AM EDT
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What could go wrong Why are they building their own collider rather than going to France and stealing the Large Hadron Collider. Is this an indication they're reforming? 
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Posted: 11/15/2018 11:18:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What eons are we talking about? What technology? How about gun powder, for one? Rockets for another? How about this little list for a few more? 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 11:19:03 AM EDT
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I mean what could possibly go wrong?
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Posted: 11/15/2018 11:23:59 AM EDT
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It looks like they know how to build a wall faster and bigger than we do. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 11:54:38 AM EDT
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These fuckers are going to oopen a porthole to anohter dimension that will bring a reign of fuck and hell upon us. South Park did a documentary on this, although in that case it was BP's fault. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 12:13:49 PM EDT
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Ohh, I dunno... How about gun powder, for one? Rockets for another? How about this little list for a few more?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: What eons are we talking about? What technology? How about gun powder, for one? Rockets for another? How about this little list for a few more?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 12:17:56 PM EDT
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Ohh, I dunno... How about gun powder, for one? Rockets for another? How about this little list for a few more?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: What eons are we talking about? What technology? How about gun powder, for one? Rockets for another? How about this little list for a few more?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions Europeans are told about gunpowder and in five minutes are shooting people in the face with guns. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 12:31:52 PM EDT
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The Chinese stumbled across gunpowder and couldn't figure out how to make useful weapons out of it for hundreds of years. Europeans are told about gunpowder and in five minutes are shooting people in the face with guns. 
Let me guess that collider size is probably logarithmic? Meaning doubling in size probably only increases the capability a little bit? Just a hunch/guess. What sayeth the Arf-physicists? 
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Posted: 11/15/2018 12:33:42 PM EDT
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With plans stolen by Liberals and then given to China.
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Posted: 11/15/2018 12:48:17 PM EDT
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What could possibree go wong?
Go for it, open the Gates of Hell and let's get this party started. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 1:47:11 PM EDT
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They will have plenty of people to toss into the hole to hell when it opens....lol
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Posted: 11/15/2018 2:45:46 PM EDT
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Typical GD bullshitting. Think for at least 30 seconds before posting. Gross...
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Posted: 11/15/2018 2:45:49 PM EDT
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The MRI company I used to work for sold a scanner to China. The installation was in Nanjing. We quickly took to calling it the city of broken things. Drove past a clock tower to and from the site. All four sides had different times and not like different time zones. One would be 9:25, another 10 to something, third one like 34 minutes after and the fourth 18 after. Hours weren't even close to each other. Power would just intermittently go off for random amounts of time at random times.
Can't wait to hear how big a melt down they have when they have a cryo failure or Xui forgets to replenish on schedule and the whole thing turns into a really big expensive puddle. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 3:06:43 PM EDT
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Impressive.
With this most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the west and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Chinese dragon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. With the blessings of Chinese quantum direct-current electricity, quantum aircraft carriers and quantum enhanced railguns will be the instruments with which China affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 3:08:57 PM EDT
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In on 3 and before those communist open up a gate to hell!
 The Gate (1987) Trailer |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 3:10:17 PM EDT
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Impressive. With this most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the west and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Chinese dragon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. With the blessings of Chinese quantum direct-current electricity, quantum aircraft carriers and quantum enhanced railguns will be the instruments with which China affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 3:11:37 PM EDT
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I went to Harbor Freight today at lunch looking for non-cryogenic superconductive magnets, but they didn’t have any.
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Posted: 11/15/2018 3:31:45 PM EDT
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BREAKING NEWS
Tralfamador will begin testing new rocket fuel enriched with Chinese CEPC made boson-higgs particles. Universe expected to witness spectacular lighting effects with momentary concussion as test ship reaches max velocity shortly after fuel injection. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 3:39:39 PM EDT
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Seems sorta unnecessary to me. What do they gain by having their own particle collider? |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 9:42:13 PM EDT
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Just about that fast!
Let me guess that collider size is probably logarithmic? Meaning doubling in size probably only increases the capability a little bit? Just a hunch/guess. What sayeth the Arf-physicists? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Chinese stumbled across gunpowder and couldn't figure out how to make useful weapons out of it for hundreds of years. Europeans are told about gunpowder and in five minutes are shooting people in the face with guns.
Let me guess that collider size is probably logarithmic? Meaning doubling in size probably only increases the capability a little bit? Just a hunch/guess. What sayeth the Arf-physicists? 1) strength of your dipole turning magnets. 2) energy of the beam 3) type of particles You need to turn the high energy charged particle around the ring, but they will radiate Bremstrahlung which will start to cause issues with both energy loss and beam stability. As long as you don't hit the limit of that (LEP was getting close near the end) then you can keep ramping energy as long as you have to field strength in the magnets. Protons don't radiate as bad as electrons, and muons would be even better. There's more complicated issues with beam stability but that's the general principle. Maybe @LowBeta can shed more light on that since it's his area. For reference, LHC has a design energy of 14TeV at 27km diameter and superconducting magnets at 8.3ishT Tevatron has an energy of 1TeV at 6.28km diameter and superconducting 4.2T magnets. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 9:54:13 PM EDT
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What will this do that the LHC cannot do? I believe the next phase would be an order 100TeV pp machine to overtake the LHC looking for new physics like Supersymmetry or other more crazy theories. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 10:03:03 PM EDT
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I just want to see a Wave motion powered FTL spacecraft
We might need one after we create a wormhole in the middle of China. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 10:04:34 PM EDT
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What will this do that the LHC cannot do? |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 10:05:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did a man in a rabbit suit tell you this? 
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Posted: 11/15/2018 10:15:42 PM EDT
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I warned you fuckers about this about a year ago.
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Posted: 11/15/2018 10:22:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Open a portal to hell.. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 11:10:57 PM EDT
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I believe the next phase would be an order 100TeV pp machine to overtake the LHC looking for new physics like Supersymmetry or other more crazy theories. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 11:46:40 PM EDT
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Does that involve 100 mosquitos and a treadmill? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe the next phase would be an order 100TeV pp machine to overtake the LHC looking for new physics like Supersymmetry or other more crazy theories. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 11:49:15 PM EDT
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I hope they have a Chinese version of Gordon Freeman. And crowbars...... |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 11:54:35 PM EDT
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The starter hole is half dug eta Pic here On a related subject it took me changing my line of work to become friends with Roy Schwitters Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Doesn't the US have a particle collider that is half built, IIRC in texas. eta Pic here On a related subject it took me changing my line of work to become friends with Roy Schwitters )?
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Posted: 11/16/2018 12:21:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder what the payoff of the International Space Station has been vs. what a ree-dicky-u-lous particle accelerator would have been? Or was the project itself doomed to rapid obsolescence or inadequacy from the start (I assume there's more to collider design than just the size of the ring )?eta and as someone else said I don't think the ISS was the true justification, just a cop out since they probably didn't want to fund 2 science projects at once back then. I would have preferred to be eating Texas BBQ through grad school instead of Swiss/French cuisine. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 12:47:27 AM EDT
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These fuckers are going to oopen a porthole to anohter dimension that will bring a reign of fuck and hell upon us. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 12:49:41 AM EDT
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The...…...Hitlerverse (bum bum bum!) Grab yer shotguns! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These fuckers are going to oopen a porthole to anohter dimension that will bring a reign of fuck and hell upon us. Thus aren't we the Hitlerverse? Maybe we're looking at this backwards... Maybe we're the demons about to burst out of the portal to hell. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 1:07:04 AM EDT
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So.... what happens to say, a human body getting smoked by a particle being whipped around one of these bad boys?
I know a particle is fucking tiny, so does it just zing though you? Or does it have some absurd kinetic energy and liquefy you? |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 1:12:15 AM EDT
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HO LEE FUK SUM TING WONG BANG DING OW |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 1:22:35 AM EDT
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The problem I foresee is not the size of the project. It's easy enough with GPS coordinates to build a ring 20 miles in diameter.
What the chinese lack, is the ability to build it to the level of precision of the LHC. They were talking about tolerances in the tenths of millimeters, and EVERYTHING had to be built to that level of exactness. It took some of the best construction companies and scientists the world had to offer (not just the EU) to bring the LHC into being, there is no way the chinese will be able to build it and operate it with any legitimate data. They will build the ring, and it will sit there and rot like the rest of China. ETA Quoted:
So.... what happens to say, a human body getting smoked by a particle being whipped around one of these bad boys? I know a particle is fucking tiny, so does it just zing though you? Or does it have some absurd kinetic energy and liquefy you? |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 1:31:00 AM EDT
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So.... what happens to say, a human body getting smoked by a particle being whipped around one of these bad boys? I know a particle is fucking tiny, so does it just zing though you? Or does it have some absurd kinetic energy and liquefy you? Basically, all the weird things about cancer and a stroke without any of the usually deadly parts. That was him though, your mileage may vary. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 3:43:47 AM EDT
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoli_Bugorski Basically, all the weird things about cancer and a stroke without any of the usually deadly parts. That was him though, your mileage may vary. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So.... what happens to say, a human body getting smoked by a particle being whipped around one of these bad boys? I know a particle is fucking tiny, so does it just zing though you? Or does it have some absurd kinetic energy and liquefy you? Basically, all the weird things about cancer and a stroke without any of the usually deadly parts. That was him though, your mileage may vary. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 8:27:31 AM EDT
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That is not the question to ask, but- Why are they building their own collider rather than going to France and stealing the Large Hadron Collider. Is this an indication they're reforming? This one project will take them from 60's knowledge of large capacitors, strong magnets, super conducting, etc. to 2010 knowledge of it, even if poorly implemented. Just like they do for everything else, this is theft. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 9:57:21 AM EDT
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They don't want to do physics. They want to steal processes, material information, and technical knowledge from the contractors they will lure in to do the project (for big yuan) by requiring full disclosure of the technology and "staff and information exchange" with the US / Euro contractors. This one project will take them from 60's knowledge of large capacitors, strong magnets, super conducting, etc. to 2010 knowledge of it, even if poorly implemented. Just like they do for everything else, this is theft. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That is not the question to ask, but- Why are they building their own collider rather than going to France and stealing the Large Hadron Collider. Is this an indication they're reforming? This one project will take them from 60's knowledge of large capacitors, strong magnets, super conducting, etc. to 2010 knowledge of it, even if poorly implemented. Just like they do for everything else, this is theft. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 11:26:07 AM EDT
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why do they need a particle collider? ever seen them drive? |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 11:36:52 AM EDT
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So.... what happens to say, a human body getting smoked by a particle being whipped around one of these bad boys? I know a particle is fucking tiny, so does it just zing though you? Or does it have some absurd kinetic energy and liquefy you? At FermiLab, we were told that if you were in one of the pits (experimental areas) and they dumped the beam in there, you'd have about 7 seconds to live. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 11:40:27 AM EDT
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Ever do any research on hybrid rocket engines? |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 11:44:36 AM EDT
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Yeah well things like that are a bit easier when the population is homogenous Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It looks like they know how to build a wall faster and bigger than we do. 
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Posted: 11/16/2018 11:50:40 AM EDT
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So.... what happens to say, a human body getting smoked by a particle being whipped around one of these bad boys? I know a particle is fucking tiny, so does it just zing though you? Or does it have some absurd kinetic energy and liquefy you? |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 11:52:06 AM EDT
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He fared better than the dumbass scientist here that nuked everyone in the room when he dropped the tungsten lid Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So.... what happens to say, a human body getting smoked by a particle being whipped around one of these bad boys? I know a particle is fucking tiny, so does it just zing though you? Or does it have some absurd kinetic energy and liquefy you? Basically, all the weird things about cancer and a stroke without any of the usually deadly parts. That was him though, your mileage may vary. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 2:27:53 PM EDT
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The size and energy of the ring is governed by a few things 1) strength of your dipole turning magnets. 2) energy of the beam 3) type of particles You need to turn the high energy charged particle around the ring, but they will radiate Bremstrahlung which will start to cause issues with both energy loss and beam stability. As long as you don't hit the limit of that (LEP was getting close near the end) then you can keep ramping energy as long as you have to field strength in the magnets. Protons don't radiate as bad as electrons, and muons would be even better. There's more complicated issues with beam stability but that's the general principle. Maybe @LowBeta can shed more light on that since it's his area. For reference, LHC has a design energy of 14TeV at 27km diameter and superconducting magnets at 8.3ishT Tevatron has an energy of 1TeV at 6.28km diameter and superconducting 4.2T magnets. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Chinese stumbled across gunpowder and couldn't figure out how to make useful weapons out of it for hundreds of years. Europeans are told about gunpowder and in five minutes are shooting people in the face with guns.
Let me guess that collider size is probably logarithmic? Meaning doubling in size probably only increases the capability a little bit? Just a hunch/guess. What sayeth the Arf-physicists? 1) strength of your dipole turning magnets. 2) energy of the beam 3) type of particles You need to turn the high energy charged particle around the ring, but they will radiate Bremstrahlung which will start to cause issues with both energy loss and beam stability. As long as you don't hit the limit of that (LEP was getting close near the end) then you can keep ramping energy as long as you have to field strength in the magnets. Protons don't radiate as bad as electrons, and muons would be even better. There's more complicated issues with beam stability but that's the general principle. Maybe @LowBeta can shed more light on that since it's his area. For reference, LHC has a design energy of 14TeV at 27km diameter and superconducting magnets at 8.3ishT Tevatron has an energy of 1TeV at 6.28km diameter and superconducting 4.2T magnets. 
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Posted: 11/16/2018 2:33:09 PM EDT
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liner accelerators have been used in cancer treatments... At FermiLab, we were told that if you were in one of the pits (experimental areas) and they dumped the beam in there, you'd have about 7 seconds to live. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So.... what happens to say, a human body getting smoked by a particle being whipped around one of these bad boys? I know a particle is fucking tiny, so does it just zing though you? Or does it have some absurd kinetic energy and liquefy you? At FermiLab, we were told that if you were in one of the pits (experimental areas) and they dumped the beam in there, you'd have about 7 seconds to live. Except being deaf in one ear, having tinnitus, 40% of his face paralyzed, missing hair... You know, normal Russian stuff. |
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