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Link Posted: 5/3/2024 5:08:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

I played for about an hour the other day, what's the issue with it?
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my mission with the piggy bank launcher is fucked up, doesn't render the weapons at all
Link Posted: 5/3/2024 5:09:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:

my mission with the piggy bank launcher is fucked up, doesn't render the weapons at all
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Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

I played for about an hour the other day, what's the issue with it?

my mission with the piggy bank launcher is fucked up, doesn't render the weapons at all

That sucks. I'll probably start running into issues as I put some more time in.
Link Posted: 5/3/2024 5:46:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

I played for about an hour the other day, what's the issue with it?
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It broke F4SE and the most of mods that use it for the PC players.

Link Posted: 5/3/2024 6:22:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

That sucks. I'll probably start running into issues as I put some more time in.
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If you’re playing on a PC with mods to the game that’s when you’ll have troubles.
If it’s a clean game on console maybe not.
Link Posted: 5/3/2024 6:24:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gunslinger808:


If you're playing on a PC with mods to the game that's when you'll have troubles.
If it's a clean game on console maybe not.
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

That sucks. I'll probably start running into issues as I put some more time in.


If you're playing on a PC with mods to the game that's when you'll have troubles.
If it's a clean game on console maybe not.

I'm on Xbox Series X and started a new playthrough and only have very minimal mods, like full the dialogue mod and some weapons so maybe I'll be okay.
Link Posted: 5/3/2024 6:45:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
I think I may play FONV again. And use the mod that gets a Deathclaw to be your Companion.


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I like Willow as a companion mod.
Link Posted: 5/3/2024 6:48:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

I'm on Xbox Series X and started a new playthrough and only have very minimal mods, like full the dialogue mod and some weapons so maybe I'll be okay.
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Im series z as well and that was the only issue I found. I had to redownload some of my mods but they are all creation club so nothing really got lost
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 8:12:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:
Im series z as well and that was the only issue I found. I had to redownload some of my mods but they are all creation club so nothing really got lost
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Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

I'm on Xbox Series X and started a new playthrough and only have very minimal mods, like full the dialogue mod and some weapons so maybe I'll be okay.
Im series z as well and that was the only issue I found. I had to redownload some of my mods but they are all creation club so nothing really got lost
I'm on Xbox as well, I no longer have access to mods at all, it's grayed out on the list of options and can't be opened.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 3:39:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Vellcrow:


I would normally say make it look beat up like in the game.

Do you have a progress thread going about this?  Because I would like to know more.
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No, I may start one once I actually get back to it. It has been on hold since having a kid. My wife is pregnant again, and wants to go to bed early, so I don't have much time to operate noisy equipment like saws. I really have no idea what I'm doing, but if my plan works out and I can get my light box built, that will be half the battle.

I have a short square body coke vending machine from the 70's that I got for free. I'm going to try to build a light box that resembles the top of a Fallout 3/New Vegas Nuka Cola Machine. I plan on going super fancy, like cannibalizing a vintage 5 inch TV to put on top with a raspberry pi to make it play videos or cycle through pictures. I plan to build and paint that first, and once that is complete, I need to strip down the machine and repaint it to get rid of the Coca Cola markings. All I've accomplished so far is rough cutting half of it, and a bunch of crap cuts as I learn how to use my table saw to make the correct angles for the front face.

Base machine, a Vendo 63 (not my photo, but mine looks identical).

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Link Posted: 5/5/2024 3:38:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By nvgeologist:
I have a theoretical degree in physics.
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Originally Posted By BMSMB:

"This is made difficult by the fact that he's dead. This is solvable through science or art, or both."

What are you a theoretical physicist?
I have a theoretical degree in physics.
Theoretically I have a degree in physics
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 9:20:27 AM EDT
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Its entertaining. I don't quite get all of the context and none of the Easter Eggs, but it kept my interest and suspended my disbelief. Given much recent, more than I hoped for.

Did a very good job on settings and props - which was complicated I'm sure due to what appears to be pretty strict adherence to canon.

Someone did a fantastic job on the cars given the constraints. They all fit in well to an alternate 50s universe, but avoided what I assume would have been costly mockups or custom bodies. Most were low prod American 50s-60s, tho the XNR concept was right there in the first scene.

The Kaiser Darrin was a good choice due to the unique doors.

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Link Posted: 5/11/2024 12:38:38 AM EDT
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One for the fallout fans:

How Geopolitically Realistic is Fallout's Great War?


Don't let the length put you off.

Once you get rolling in it you it goes by fast.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 12:40:38 AM EDT
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I got my fallout coffee from bones.  I will french press a batch and give a review.  Not tonight though.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 4:48:39 AM EDT
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I'm going to finish up the final episode this morning, but so far its been mostly underwhelming.  The only angle I like in the storyline is the Walton Goggins character, everything else is just meh.  Granted, I never really got into any of the Fallout games, and I *think* the only one I ever played was the one where you could detonate the nuclear bomb, so I may not exactly be the target audience.  I'll watch a second season, but I'll go in with low expectations.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 10:14:03 PM EDT
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Finished it up last night.  I think they did a pretty great job on this.  And as someone who played the original, when they used the line "War ,    War Never Changes", it was just bone chilling, because that's such an iconic memorable line from the game.  Though they didn't do it justice - she tried, but the original male voice-narration of that line was just... wow, in the game.


Speaking of the game, I'm playing Fallout 1 again.  Get your Gambling skill up to 81%, hit the casino, program a macro on your G15 Keyboard to hit 1, 3 while in the Casino, and repeat loop on a 50 ms keystroke timer -repeat-loop (Original G15 - still the best gamers keyboard ever made).  Then go have a nice sitdown dinner for 2.5 hours, and come home - and tadaa, now have 250,000 caps.  (though it says x99999 when you look at it in inventory, so maybe it capped out at that?)






Link Posted: 5/11/2024 10:18:24 PM EDT
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I watched the third episode.  I'm still not terribly impressed.  God they fucked up the BoS so bad.

The ghoul is pretty great.  I'm starting to think he's the only reason to watch it.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 10:24:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
I watched the third episode.  I'm still not terribly impressed.  God they fucked up the BoS so bad.

The ghoul is pretty great.  I'm starting to think he's the only reason to watch it.
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I finished the last episode this morning, and without Walton Goggins I would have probably turned it off within the first few episodes.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 10:27:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
I watched the third episode.  I'm still not terribly impressed.  God they fucked up the BoS so bad.

The ghoul is pretty great.  I'm starting to think he's the only reason to watch it.
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FO4 basically made the BoS enclave light.

With the prydwen showing up…that means the BoS has enough power/resources to cross the entire United States. It is also likely that Elder Maxson will be a thing in this show.

Time will tell.

Lots of SJW in the show….but there is also a lot of stuff that they kept true to the game/lore…so it’s a mixed bag. I enjoyed it.

I suppose…S2 may be worse..Bethesda went super safe with Starfield…very much a “modern audiences” game..wouldn’t be surprised to see the same thing in anything else FO related.

I will be interested if they go anywhere near the slave trade that exists in the FO universe..can’t kill children…but you can make them slaves…



Link Posted: 5/12/2024 8:56:32 AM EDT
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My final summary-

The fallout look and feel was mostly a home run. They did a fantastic job, and the little details were well done. The flashbacks to pre-war really set the stage.

Occasionally too PC.  That was a little annoying.

The characters weren’t particularly interesting.  The relationships sucked and get tacked on. The cowboy actor ghoul wasn’t that interesting, and seemed more like an excuse for Goggins to chew scenery.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 9:37:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jason280:


I finished the last episode this morning, and without Walton Goggins I would have probably turned it off within the first few episodes.
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You didn't like the Okey Dokey chick?
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 9:45:37 AM EDT
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You didn't like the Okey Dokey chick?
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Originally Posted By Jason280:


I finished the last episode this morning, and without Walton Goggins I would have probably turned it off within the first few episodes.



You didn't like the Okey Dokey chick?


I thought she (and her director), did a pretty good job blending the Fallout game Vault Dweller persona and mannerisms, with a TV show.  I think she did her job pretty well.

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Seeing how she basically repeat The Ghoul's earlier compassion-killing at the end, in the same way, was good writing.  Though, I hope Season 2 doesn't actually include her, since basically that was her transition to the harsh realities of being a surface dweller, and the whole Vault Persona out on the surface was one of the more entertaining aspects of the whole thing.  If they just stick with her, it will just become yet another post-apocoliptic action series.  Which isn't terrible, and that's what the game quickly becomes; but it was kind of a cool Schtich to season 1 playing it out like they did.

Link Posted: 5/16/2024 5:50:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By KaerMorhenResident:
I'm three episodes in and so far other than the horribly disfigured ghoul every white male appears to be either evil, dumb, or weak.
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Originally Posted By KaerMorhenResident:
I'm three episodes in and so far other than the horribly disfigured ghoul every white male appears to be either evil, dumb, or weak.

Originally Posted By fike:
Would you say that you don’t feel properly represented?

Link Posted: 5/16/2024 6:19:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Brundoggie:
I'm a big time Fallout player and really looked forward to this series and they did not disappoint.

Some of the negative -

- CGI cyclops overseer in Vault 4 was not well done, probably should have used a prosthetic instead.
- If Dane didn't have a slight mustache I don't think anyone would be talking about it.
- Kinda dragged at times.
- Maybe a little too much pre-war backstory, could have been condensed and used the time for more wasteland exposition.
- I did think they overused the desert sand buildings set too much.
- Not sure I like the actor playing Maximus. I don't know, I think a different actor could have made the role a bit more likeable and compelling.
- A bit overused the religious angle to BoS, never felt that in the game.

The positives-

- Absolutely nailed the visuals.  Pretty much everything looked like the game.
- Plenty of humor, some laugh out loud.
- Totally nailed the Vertibirds.
- Mostly nailed the BoS uniform and power armor.
- Great story line
- Final episode closed a lot of story lines but left a huge opportunity for a Season 2.
- Dude wiping his dick on the curtains cracked me up.

Overall I give it a 9/10.
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I never played the games, so I can't care how close the series was to anything.
You've pretty much nailed my thoughts about the series, though.  I turned it off at the E1 wedding scene (boring!) but I got talked into watching at least two episodes, and ended up bingeing the whole thing.
Did I notice the sprinkling of DEI?  Yes.  Did I care?  Not really.  I've got more important things to worry about, like the price of chicken wings.

Loved it, overall.  I need to watch it again.

My favorite pop culture references:

- Dogmeat is found at the 'Red Rocket' gas station.

- When Titus Maximus pulls Lucy out of the Gulper (inverting its stomach) and you see a plastic pink flamingo among the stomach contents.  Kind of like the license plate when they cut the shark open in 'Jaws.'

- 'We'll Meet Again' in the soundtrack.  Same song played at the end of 'Dr. Strangelove'.  Also (and this might be a reach...) it was sung by Vera Lynn.  'The Wall' had a song called 'Vera Lynn.'

Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn?
Remember how she said that
We would meet again
Some sunny day?
Vera, Vera
What has become of you
Does anybody else in here
Feel the way I do?


- This movie poster in Cooper's house.  A clear reference to 'A Boy and His Dog'.

Link Posted: 5/16/2024 6:37:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alacrity:
The Kaiser Darrin was a good choice due to the unique doors.



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I had to look that one up.  Very cool.
The remaining supercharged V6 models are selling for $200,000+
The design excluded the possibility of side windows.  A true open cockpit roadster.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:21:30 AM EDT
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The show is like that weird dress picture that was circulating the internet years ago... some people saw a blue dress while some people saw a gold dress. The harsh reality is that the show is both at the same time. Allow me to present this argument in the framework of the Simpsons Monkey Paw Seller:

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Seller: The show has a FEMALE PROTAGONIST!
Homer: That's Bad...
Seller: ... but she gets beaten down and abused more than she succeeds!
Homer: That's Good!

Seller: The BoS character is a BLACK GUY!
Homer: That's Bad...
Seller: ... but he's a borderline incompetent habitual lair of a man-child who fails upwards as a product of a deteriorating system!
Homer: That's Good!

Seller: The Ghoul character is in an INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE!
Homer: That's Bad...
Seller: ... but his wife turns out to be one of the main villains!
Homer: That's Good!

Seller: There's a weird HE-SHE BoS character!
Homer: That's Bad...
Seller: ... but the he-she is a self-harming coward!
Homer: That's Good!

Seller: The white men are all depicted as GOOFY or INCOMPETENT!
Homer: That's Bad...
Seller: ... but that is because by and large almost everyone in the show is goofy or incompetent!
Homer: That's Good!

Seller: The hippy NCR / "Communist" scientist woman is a STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER!
Homer: That's Bad...
Seller: ... but her plans all more or less fail in the end and she dies like a bitch after basically turning on her super power generator only to basically hand it over to the BoS.
Homer: That's Good!

Seller: The Chicken Boy Troglodyte brother character is a COWARD!
Homer: That's Bad...
Seller: ... but he finds his balls and investigates the vaults more or less alone, even going into vault 31 when he might be killed!
Homer: That's Good!

Seller: The show is CURSED!
Homer: That's Bad...
Seller: ... but the show comes with a free Frogurt!
Homer: That's Good!
Seller: ... but the Frogurt is ALSO cursed!
Homer: That's Bad...
Seller: ... but you get your choice of toppings!
Homer: That's Good!
Seller: ... but the toppings contain potassium benzoate!
Homer: ...
Seller: That's bad.
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Nailed it.

It's bad until it's redeemed by being remolded into the perpetually offended hive mind concept of good.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:25:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By feudist:
I started a rewatch.

I'd forgotten the Asian chick going in dry on Maximus when she repaired his armor doodad. She was a lot of character for maybe 87 seconds of screen time. The voice, the look, the attitude and the anal.

Also the stoners at the organ harvesting store were memorably funny.
Thaddeus is my favorite after the Ghoul and Lucy.
Did Chickenfucker turn him into a ghoul or was that just more Stimpack style stuff?
Now that I'm accustomed to the premise of the world I see a lot more sight gags and funny interactions.
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Wait, what?

I was going to rewatch anyway, but now you've got me turgid.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:30:16 AM EDT
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I'd also view interracial as just being practical in a post apocalyptic US. Where if your goal is to keep the human race going, you gotta work with what you got.
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I'd also view interracial as just being practical in a post apocalyptic US. Where if your goal is to keep the human race going, you gotta work with what you got.

Originally Posted By jhereg:
Except in that small a community after about 11 generations the races are probably all going to be mixed.

Originally Posted By beitodesstrafe:
Whew boy.

Imagine the state GD would be in if everyone in the show was a mixed shade of brown.

Not enough mixed race actors to pull that off.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:36:43 AM EDT
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I think the best easter egg/surprise that would be missed by people that hadn't played the games was the Robco terminal hacking scene.  

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I saw 'RUGRATS' on that and didn't get the reference, probably because I never played the game.  Thought it was pretty funny, and it reminded me of this from 'Alien.'

Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:43:58 AM EDT
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It wasn't just you. Interacial relationships seemed to be the whole point of the series, other than pushing the heavy surfacer/vault dweller xenophobic woke angle the one-eyed overseer played out to Lucy before he kicked her out of his office in Vault 4. A clear liberal commentary on the whole (illegal) immigrant issue. So sick of the woke social issues being pushed in everything these days. I didn't finish all the episodes because I got so sick of it.
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It wasn't just you. Interacial relationships seemed to be the whole point of the series, other than pushing the heavy surfacer/vault dweller xenophobic woke angle the one-eyed overseer played out to Lucy before he kicked her out of his office in Vault 4. A clear liberal commentary on the whole (illegal) immigrant issue. So sick of the woke social issues being pushed in everything these days. I didn't finish all the episodes because I got so sick of it.

Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:
This is how I picture some of y'all


Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:
They look for ways to be offended by something, it must be a sad way to live.

Only weak-minded people are afraid they're being brainwashed.
Ranting about things one sees but doesn't believe in is quite neurotic.
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
As others have noted, I really don't see it as being particularly "woke" or DEI influenced.  I honestly just see it as being very true to the game.

The Vault dweller being a weak and clueless woman - who has to learn and figure out how to survive (i.e. level up) - is 100% consistent with the game.  By definition, you start out weak and clueless, and then you gradually get stronger and more skilled, until you are a total badass in the late game.  Her eventually becoming a badass (which I assume will happen) is not the show being "woke" - it's the show literally being true to the source material.  Also, in most of the modern Fallout games  (3, NV and 4) there is a slight advantage to playing as a female character, so the protagonist being female is also consistent with the game.

In terms of DEI - which in media often seems to be portraying white people (especially men) as stupid, evil etc., while portraying various other groups as being smarter, more competent, etc. - I am just not seeing it.

The prominent black guy is a gigantic weasel, liar and coward - and honestly seems to be portrayed as almost retarded.  That's certainly not flattering.

Most black women in the show seem to be flat-out evil, whether the Ghoul's pre-war wife, or the black lady in the Vault.

The really butch woman with short hair in the Brotherhood of Steel is portrayed as being weak and dishonest.   As an aside, when I watched the show, I didn't get the vibe that she was supposed to be "trans" - just that she was a butch skinny woman with a mannish haircut.  I have no idea if the writers intended her to be a nod to "trans" people, but if they did, it missed the mark with me.  So MAYBE that's a bit of DEI, but it seems mild.

If there are ANY "heroes" in the show, I'd say they were the Enclave scientists and the Ghoul.  Both are white guys.  Sure, the Overseer is white and evil, but his evil is clearly because he is a Vault-Tec stooge, so that evokes the "evil Vault Tec guy" much more than the "evil white guy" message, IMO.

Absolutely, there's a wide mix of races represented in the show, but that really doesn't seem inconsistent with what you'd expect from survivors of the demographics of the US West Coast (plus, it is an alternate universe).  If anything, given that it's California, there probably should be MORE Hispanics and Asians  .  In Fallout 2, there were tons of Asians.  I'm too lazy to go back and literally count the numbers of how many people there are from each race, but I didn't really notice anything that really stood out as jarring or weird.  

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Pretty much.  I'm playing the original game now, and the BrotherHood of Steel has butch female characters in it.  I'm playing a Natasha (female character) even, and it's intersting the different conversation tree options that I didn't see before.  Nothing profound, mostly just stuff to make the game more real from the perspective of that character.  I'm actually quite blown away by the complexity and depth they put into this game.  Especially for the 1990's - the writing, creativity, and originality that Interplay did with this game is just amazing.  Same guys who did Descent, btw - another profound game of the era.

And as you say, the TV show isn't quite as woke-broke as people seem to make it out to be, though the Ghoul's original wife and family were pretty forced - painfully so, for that check-box.   The fact they made her so evil, blew my mind.  But really, those two characters have NOTHING in common, and no real reason to be married.  They don't even like each other; and it's just painfully forced for that diversity box.

The rest of it all is fair enough to me.  Even the "tranny", now that you mention it, isn't even necessarily a tranny - so much as asexual and butch.  The only item there is she was refered to as "they" at one point, so I guess so.  or maybe that's just a general brotherhood nuance for female "brothers" in general - it really isn't that big of a deal.  Butch women being dudish has always existed.

It is interesting how almost all of the worst most evil characters are black females - wasn't expecting that one.  

Also, the fact they made Maximus so dumb, yet strong - is actually a game consistency a lot of people didn't quite catch.  A typical character in that roll is almost always rolled with a very high strength and low intelligence score by the player.  The fact that he's so dumb, but focused, is highly consistent with a character.  While Lucy nailed her game-character persona roll very very well, He actually did too - for what attributes a character roll like that would be.  Including his struggling Speach, Charisma, and Intelligence scores.  Watch it in that like, and he actually nails the roll really well.

I'm impressed at how the producers and director priortized that degree of trueness and accruacy to the game.  

I wish they did the same with Tombraider.  The origianal Tombraider game and story was beyond incredible and insainly immersive.  The movie they made with Angela Jolie was great - but had nothing to do with that astounding story writing and presentation.  
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Haven't read the thread to avoid spoilers.  We are only 5 episodes in and are really enjoying it.  I was sure they were going to screw it up big time like every game to tv series before.  I'm actually shocked at how much I like it.

Link Posted: 5/16/2024 12:08:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By eracer:

I never played the games, so I can't care how close the series was to anything.
You've pretty much nailed my thoughts about the series, though.  I turned it off at the E1 wedding scene (boring!) but I got talked into watching at least two episodes, and ended up bingeing the whole thing.
Did I notice the sprinkling of DEI?  Yes.  Did I care?  Not really.  I've got more important things to worry about, like the price of chicken wings.

Loved it, overall.  I need to watch it again.

My favorite pop culture references:

- Dogmeat is found at the 'Red Rocket' gas station.

- When Titus Maximus pulls Lucy out of the Gulper (inverting its stomach) and you see a plastic pink flamingo among the stomach contents.  Kind of like the license plate when they cut the shark open in 'Jaws.'

- 'We'll Meet Again' in the soundtrack.  Same song played at the end of 'Dr. Strangelove'.  Also (and this might be a reach...) it was sung by Vera Lynn.  'The Wall' had a song called 'Vera Lynn.'

Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn?
Remember how she said that
We would meet again
Some sunny day?
Vera, Vera
What has become of you
Does anybody else in here
Feel the way I do?


- This movie poster in Cooper's house.  A clear reference to 'A Boy and His Dog'.

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Originally Posted By Brundoggie:
I'm a big time Fallout player and really looked forward to this series and they did not disappoint.

Some of the negative -

- CGI cyclops overseer in Vault 4 was not well done, probably should have used a prosthetic instead.
- If Dane didn't have a slight mustache I don't think anyone would be talking about it.
- Kinda dragged at times.
- Maybe a little too much pre-war backstory, could have been condensed and used the time for more wasteland exposition.
- I did think they overused the desert sand buildings set too much.
- Not sure I like the actor playing Maximus. I don't know, I think a different actor could have made the role a bit more likeable and compelling.
- A bit overused the religious angle to BoS, never felt that in the game.

The positives-

- Absolutely nailed the visuals.  Pretty much everything looked like the game.
- Plenty of humor, some laugh out loud.
- Totally nailed the Vertibirds.
- Mostly nailed the BoS uniform and power armor.
- Great story line
- Final episode closed a lot of story lines but left a huge opportunity for a Season 2.
- Dude wiping his dick on the curtains cracked me up.

Overall I give it a 9/10.
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I never played the games, so I can't care how close the series was to anything.
You've pretty much nailed my thoughts about the series, though.  I turned it off at the E1 wedding scene (boring!) but I got talked into watching at least two episodes, and ended up bingeing the whole thing.
Did I notice the sprinkling of DEI?  Yes.  Did I care?  Not really.  I've got more important things to worry about, like the price of chicken wings.

Loved it, overall.  I need to watch it again.

My favorite pop culture references:

- Dogmeat is found at the 'Red Rocket' gas station.

- When Titus Maximus pulls Lucy out of the Gulper (inverting its stomach) and you see a plastic pink flamingo among the stomach contents.  Kind of like the license plate when they cut the shark open in 'Jaws.'

- 'We'll Meet Again' in the soundtrack.  Same song played at the end of 'Dr. Strangelove'.  Also (and this might be a reach...) it was sung by Vera Lynn.  'The Wall' had a song called 'Vera Lynn.'

Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn?
Remember how she said that
We would meet again
Some sunny day?
Vera, Vera
What has become of you
Does anybody else in here
Feel the way I do?


- This movie poster in Cooper's house.  A clear reference to 'A Boy and His Dog'.

https://images.fallout.wiki/7/77/S1E6_Character_19.jpg

Missed the poster.  That's awesome
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 12:20:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KaerMorhenResident:
I'm three episodes in and so far other than the horribly disfigured ghoul every white male appears to be either evil, dumb, or weak.
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To be fair, pretty much every character except the ghoul is either evil dumb or weak. Lead female? Maybe not dumb, but painfully naive. Max? Duuuuumb. The wife? Evil.
As noted above seemingly the only straight up good guy is the white enclave scientist....
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 12:24:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By _DR:
pushing the heavy surfacer/vault dweller xenophobic woke angle.
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Never played the game huh?

Who knew HG Wells was woke in 1895....the more you know
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 12:24:56 PM EDT
[#36]
I thought the "whole vault full of middle managers" thing was hilarious.  It sounds exactly like something middle managers in a large bureaucracy would concoct, with predictable results.  

That, or everyone else in Vault-Tec treated it like the Golgafrincham Ark Ship B (a reference for any HHGTTG fans) and used 31-33 to offload the portion of society that, though useless, had just enough pull to secure a space in the vaults.  
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 12:29:47 PM EDT
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I'm finally back to working on the Nuka Cola machine.

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Sides rough cut (like a year ago, lol)

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The part that required me to buy a table saw to figure out is now complete; beveled cuts for the front face.

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Five inch CRT decased.

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The plan is to build a light box for the Nuka Cola sign to secure to the top of my coke machine, to be followed by repainting the Coke machine to match the colors of a Nuka Cola machine. Now that I have a CRT, I'm hoping to wire in an RCA input to run it to a hypothetical future Rhasberry Pi, which will send video to the CRT and audio to a hypothetical blue tooth enabled stereo power amp, which will run two six inch speakers mounted to the sides, which will be behind stainless steel louvered vents that are intended for washer/dryer venting, which look remarkably close to the louvered vents on the sides of the machine in the game. In addition to being able to play various videos and an image slide show of Nuka Cola ads, I'm also hoping to configure it so I can play Doom.

I anticipate the hardest part now will be making the various "fins." Next tools to buy; a jig saw and a router. I'm hoping to make templates out of card board to ensure fit after I test fit all of these components into a box. Then I will transfer the template to quarter inch plywood to make router templates. Then I will have to route them. My goal is to build the box in two months. Probably won't get it painted this year, and certainly won't get the Coke machine refininshed, since it needs some body work, I have no idea what I'm doing, and it is currently my drink fridge. While I want it to look permanently attached, I plan to secure the light box to the machine with screws, using nutserts. This way I can remove the light box if I ever have to move the machine. Once I get the machine apart, I'll run conduit through the insulation to run a power cord from the bottom through the machine to the light box.

ETA: I forgot the best part, once complete, I can troll coke machine collectors forums.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 12:51:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/16/2024 12:56:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Couch-Commando:
I'm finally back to working on the Nuka Cola machine.

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Sides rough cut (like a year ago, lol)

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The part that required me to buy a table saw to figure out is now complete; beveled cuts for the front face.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/74831/20240515_202210_jpg-3215687.JPG

Five inch CRT decased.

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The plan is to build a light box for the Nuka Cola sign to secure to the top of my coke machine, to be followed by repainting the Coke machine to match the colors of a Nuka Cola machine. Now that I have a CRT, I'm hoping to wire in an RCA input to run it to a hypothetical future Rhasberry Pi, which will send video to the CRT and audio to a hypothetical blue tooth enabled stereo power amp, which will run two six inch speakers mounted to the sides, which will be behind stainless steel louvered vents that are intended for washer/dryer venting, which look remarkably close to the louvered vents on the sides of the machine in the game. In addition to being able to play various videos and an image slide show of Nuka Cola ads, I'm also hoping to configure it so I can play Doom.

I anticipate the hardest part now will be making the various "fins." Next tools to buy; a jig saw and a router. I'm hoping to make templates out of card board to ensure fit after I test fit all of these components into a box. Then I will transfer the template to quarter inch plywood to make router templates. Then I will have to route them. My goal is to build the box in two months. Probably won't get it painted this year, and certainly won't get the Coke machine refininshed, since it needs some body work, I have no idea what I'm doing, and it is currently my drink fridge. While I want it to look permanently attached, I plan to secure the light box to the machine with screws, using nutserts. This way I can remove the light box if I ever have to move the machine. Once I get the machine apart, I'll run conduit through the insulation to run a power cord from the bottom through the machine to the light box.

ETA: I forgot the best part, once complete, I can troll coke machine collectors forums.
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That looks like a pretty cool project, plus cold drinks
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 2:35:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By feudist:

Did Chickenfucker turn him into a ghoul or was that just more Stimpack style stuff?
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My money is on Super Mutant.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 2:37:42 PM EDT
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My money is on Super Mutant.
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Yep. A little FEV goes a long way.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 3:19:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wingnutx:



My money is on Super Mutant.
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Originally Posted By wingnutx:

Originally Posted By feudist:

Did Chickenfucker turn him into a ghoul or was that just more Stimpack style stuff?


My money is on Super Mutant.

Huh.  I hadn't considered that.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 6:48:24 PM EDT
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My money is on Super Mutant.
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I think jist ghoulification.  Isn't there a dude in Fo4 that did the same?
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:44:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MisterPX:


I think jist ghoulification.  Isn't there a dude in Fo4 that did the same?
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there was the bad guy that Nick Valentine asks you to help him track down and kill, he turned himself into a ghoul pre war.

can't remember his name
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:55:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:

there was the bad guy that Nick Valentine asks you to help him track down and kill, he turned himself into a ghoul pre war.

can't remember his name
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Eddie Winter. Hancock also used drugs to ghoulify himself.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 9:06:30 PM EDT
[#46]
Ghouls don't have that freakish healing and resistance to damage, they just don't age anymore.
Link Posted: 5/17/2024 5:49:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
As others have noted, I really don't see it as being particularly "woke" or DEI influenced.  I honestly just see it as being very true to the game.

The Vault dweller being a weak and clueless woman - who has to learn and figure out how to survive (i.e. level up) - is 100% consistent with the game.  By definition, you start out weak and clueless, and then you gradually get stronger and more skilled, until you are a total badass in the late game.  Her eventually becoming a badass (which I assume will happen) is not the show being "woke" - it's the show literally being true to the source material.  Also, in most of the modern Fallout games  (3, NV and 4) there is a slight advantage to playing as a female character, so the protagonist being female is also consistent with the game.

In terms of DEI - which in media often seems to be portraying white people (especially men) as stupid, evil etc., while portraying various other groups as being smarter, more competent, etc. - I am just not seeing it.

The prominent black guy is a gigantic weasel, liar and coward - and honestly seems to be portrayed as almost retarded.  That's certainly not flattering.

Most black women in the show seem to be flat-out evil, whether the Ghoul's pre-war wife, or the black lady in the Vault.

The really butch woman with short hair in the Brotherhood of Steel is portrayed as being weak and dishonest.   As an aside, when I watched the show, I didn't get the vibe that she was supposed to be "trans" - just that she was a butch skinny woman with a mannish haircut.  I have no idea if the writers intended her to be a nod to "trans" people, but if they did, it missed the mark with me.  So MAYBE that's a bit of DEI, but it seems mild.

If there are ANY "heroes" in the show, I'd say they were the Enclave scientists and the Ghoul.  Both are white guys.  Sure, the Overseer is white and evil, but his evil is clearly because he is a Vault-Tec stooge, so that evokes the "evil Vault Tec guy" much more than the "evil white guy" message, IMO.

Absolutely, there's a wide mix of races represented in the show, but that really doesn't seem inconsistent with what you'd expect from survivors of the demographics of the US West Coast (plus, it is an alternate universe).  If anything, given that it's California, there probably should be MORE Hispanics and Asians  .  In Fallout 2, there were tons of Asians.  I'm too lazy to go back and literally count the numbers of how many people there are from each race, but I didn't really notice anything that really stood out as jarring or weird.  









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I totally agree with your assessments. I think they did a great job on this show.

To respond to txrabbitbane about the Ghoul/ cooper Howard, if you watch an interview of Walton Goggins or Cooper Howard in the show any of his scenes outside of the movie sets, he speaks in a regular Southern accent. In the movie set scenes he exaggerated his accent.

The Ghoul has been insanely traumatized. He has reverted to one of his characters. Like a child coping with something, he has gone to his comfort zone. He was actor so his zone was being something he really isn't. Over 200 years the character became the man.


As an example.https://youtu.be/lmFuRJCvq2k?si=va7jLfhFpusQSWGV
Link Posted: 5/17/2024 6:11:18 AM EDT
[#48]
Easter egg that just dawned on me watching clips on YouTube.

When the Ghoul is captured and taken to the boss. Hes  in a white suit eating dinner.
The ghoul greets him as Sorrell Booker and they have a discussion.
Sorrell Booke played Boss Hogg on the Dukes of Hazzard.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 8:49:55 PM EDT
[#49]
I know season 1 is over but I'm just getting into it.

The vault dwellers are idiots of the highest order.

Da heck guys
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 8:57:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:
I know season 1 is over but I'm just getting into it.

The vault dwellers are idiots of the highest order.

Da heck guys
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Part of the schtick, naivety eventually meats the real world in a cheeky fashion
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