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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:47:31 PM EDT
If you were forced to choose between fighting in either the battle of Gettysburg or the front lines of Ukraine, what would you choose? Old warfare vs new warfare. Is it worse to be on edge all day waiting for a drone strike or smelling black powder and having huge lead balls rip by you/into you with the medical advances they had at the time.
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 10:53:56 PM EDT
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Ukraine is a strange mix of new and old.

Imagine 1865 with static lines and positions but remote controlled explosive pigeons.

Ukraine has the edge in medical care, however. Much less amputation.
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 10:56:08 PM EDT
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For Ukrainian front lines do you mean for the duration of the war? Or an equivalent length duration to Gettysburg?

If the former, I’m taking Gettysburg. Higher casualty rate but it’s three days and I’m back on my sofa.

If it’s the latter, I’d take Ukrainian front lines.
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 10:56:11 PM EDT
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Gettysburg.  Fuck Ukraine.
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 10:57:04 PM EDT
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Both options are pretty shit but standing without cover waiting for a few thousand to volley fire in your direction seems especially shitty imo.
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 10:58:15 PM EDT
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For Gettysburg, Union or Confederate?  I am not doing Picketts charge.
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 11:02:22 PM EDT
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Ukraine, only for the advanced medical care.
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 11:06:24 PM EDT
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Ok, I'd join all the UKR-Bois in UKR because it would have memes.
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 11:07:41 PM EDT
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do I get to change history for my people?
can I get there 7 days early and consult with Lee and the boys?
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 11:09:02 PM EDT
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Gettysburg.

Cause I would have liked to shoot yankees
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 11:17:54 PM EDT
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Had a great great grand father captured at Gettysburg,  died in the union prison camp at Point Lookout In Maryland of disintrary.

Also lost 2 distance uncles in the Revolutionary War.
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 11:19:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/16/2024 11:19:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/16/2024 11:21:14 PM EDT
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Also lost 2 distance uncles in the Revolutionary War.
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Lt Dan, is that you?
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 11:25:29 PM EDT
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For either side, it also depends on the unit you were in.

Neither the Union VI Corps nor the Confederate Cavalry were involved until the last day, and as a result they suffered only light casualties.  But if you were in Pickett's Charge then yeah, you stood a good chance of dying or losing a limb.

Even so, Pickett's men actually broke through the Union lines.  But they were so depleted by then they were easily thrown back.
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 11:31:39 PM EDT
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I can do Pickett's charge...

...if I'm on top of Cemetery Ridge blasting grapeshot at Johnny Reb.

If not, I could settle for being in JEB's cavalry unit so I could show up late to the party.
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 11:36:12 PM EDT
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Lt Dan, is that you?
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LOL. No.

My dad traced his side of the family around 2002. Found family back to 1735 in the Carolinas area. Irish.
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 11:47:49 PM EDT
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This, don't give a shit about "the Ukraine" or Russia care even less for Gaza.
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 11:50:16 PM EDT
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This, don't give a shit about "the Ukraine" or Russia care even less for Gaza.
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Youre missing the point of the post, by a mile.
Link Posted: 6/16/2024 11:50:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/16/2024 11:55:34 PM EDT
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I will choose the just war.
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 12:15:30 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/17/2024 12:59:27 AM EDT
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Union but you get to hold the line with the US regulars in the wheat field.
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 1:13:48 AM EDT
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Youre missing the point of the post, by a mile.
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This, don't give a shit about "the Ukraine" or Russia care even less for Gaza.



Youre missing the point of the post, by a mile.

This 100 percent.  You don't have a dog in this fight, change the names and places, I'm talking about the actual warfare.
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 1:22:29 AM EDT
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Gettysburg because it was actually a conflict that mattered for a real country worth fighting for.
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 1:26:17 AM EDT
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Ukraine is a strange mix of new and old.

Imagine 1865 with static lines and positions but remote controlled explosive pigeons.

Ukraine has the edge in medical care, however. Much less amputation.
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At the risk of being a bit pedantic, Gettysburg was 1863.
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 1:30:50 AM EDT
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Gettysburg.

Because fuck drones
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 1:33:20 AM EDT
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They're both pretty terrible choices, but I'd probably say Ukraine because of modern medicine and hygiene alone.
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 1:39:25 AM EDT
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This, fuck the Yankees. And I rather not be on the fpv camera footage of a russian drone posted to reddit. Lol
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 1:48:20 AM EDT
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This, fuck the Yankees. And I rather not be on the fpv camera footage of a russian drone posted to reddit. Lol
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This, fuck the Yankees. And I rather not be on the fpv camera footage of a russian drone posted to reddit. Lol

I'd rather not be fighting in a war where I'm far more likely to die from diarrhea than a combat wound.

Assuming you were one of the lucky ones who didn't die from infectious disease BEFORE you even set foot on the battlefield, good luck not catching a minnie ball or shrapnel from massed rifle vollies and artillery fire in the middle of an open field (where you were expected to stand and operate)...
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 1:53:43 AM EDT
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This. Ukraine is none of my business.
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 2:59:36 AM EDT
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Ukraine because I don’t want to shit myself to death with dysentery or watch my femur get sawed off while awake.   Rather be taken out fast with a drone.
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 4:09:59 AM EDT
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This. And despite the dangers shooting democrats in the face would be worth the risk.
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 7:54:13 AM EDT
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Gettysburg. Great great grandpa ( might be another great in there) fought for the CSA. We had other family serve the USA.

None of my family fought for Ukraine or Russia. I know plenty of Russians, after traveling. Mostly decent people just living life.
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 8:38:53 AM EDT
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You probably have a better chance of surviving in Ukraine.  Not much better mind you...
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 9:01:13 AM EDT
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Gettysburg.  Preserving the Union and freeing slaves was a fight worth fighting.
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 9:04:36 AM EDT
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For Ukrainian front lines do you mean for the duration of the war? Or an equivalent length duration to Gettysburg?

If the former, I’m taking Gettysburg. Higher casualty rate but it’s three days and I’m back on my sofa.

If it’s the latter, I’d take Ukrainian front lines.
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I'd say that's a reasonable take on the question.  A trench warefare of attrition is pretty nasty so the only thing that would be better is something that is over quickly.  21st Century medical care of course does shift the amth towards serviing in Ukraine over Gettysburg in that aspect but, as you pointed out, it was over in 3 days.
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 9:29:00 AM EDT
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Neither.
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 9:37:10 AM EDT
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This is a little off topic...  Seems it was pretty suicidal to march in formation across an open field under fire during the Civil War.  Always seemed to me it would have been smarter to charge across it.  Why didn't they?
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 9:38:51 AM EDT
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Going to need to see pics of Average Ukrainian Chick vs Average Wench in 1863.
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 9:43:20 AM EDT
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I probably would get killed fighting with Archer's Tennessee Brigade.
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 9:43:49 AM EDT
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This. And despite the dangers shooting democrats in the face would be worth the risk.
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Yeah but you could shoot democrats in Uke too!
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 9:46:37 AM EDT
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Ukraine has some smoking hotties.  But you better have an exit plan before they hit menopause...
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 9:46:57 AM EDT
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Do I have the context of both to choose in this scenario or is this i'm making the choice to be put into it without the actual historical context of both.
Link Posted: 6/17/2024 9:52:29 AM EDT
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Ukraine for medical care, but also because I would hate trying to fight with BP firearms.  I know cartridge arms existed, but they were still slow to reload.  I'd hate to get killed reloading when I could have been shooting back with modern weapons.
Link Posted: 6/18/2024 7:46:49 AM EDT
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This.  At least I'd be interested in one of the sides at gettysburg.
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