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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:29:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Link to recommended items? Is Google broken again? https://www.amazon.com/Makita-T-02369-4-Inch-Drive-Socket/dp/B00L2E2LHI https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085DW495X?tag=arfcom00-20 |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:29:56 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: HVAC, Electrical contractors, and Industrial maintenance would disagree Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I want metric only sets. Absolutely hate the clowns that add in the worthless SAE sockets. HVAC, Electrical contractors, and Industrial maintenance would disagree Lots of older cars have a mix of both. 
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:30:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: harbour freight = just as gud.  Well they both are China made. Why pay over twice as much. Craftsman na.e.was burned a long time ago. I have broken a few Craftsman sockets used properly. I have never broke a HF socket used properly |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:31:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well they both are China made. Why pay over twice as much. Craftsman na.e.was burned a long time ago. I have broken a few Craftsman sockets used properly. I have never broke a HF socket used properly Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: harbour freight = just as gud. Well they both are China made. Why pay over twice as much. Craftsman na.e.was burned a long time ago. I have broken a few Craftsman sockets used properly. I have never broke a HF socket used properly Icon stuff is mostly Taiwan made with some USA stuff mixed in. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:34:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well they both are China made. Why pay over twice as much. Craftsman na.e.was burned a long time ago. I have broken a few Craftsman sockets used properly. I have never broke a HF socket used properly Most Icon and Craftsman tools nowadays are made in Taiwan. I can't afford snapon or matco since those are uber elite daily mechanic grade. I go with Taiwanese made since it's supporting good folks and literally..jes as gud |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:38:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HVAC, Electrical contractors, and Industrial maintenance would disagree Don’t forget aviation. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:42:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's made in Taiwan...... In every HF thread you complain about a tool that was made in China that was clearly made in Taiwan. It's like clock work. It's really odd. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 5:33:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have the icon set. got it after rave reviews here. I should have known better. I am not a fan of 1/4" bit tools. it is small and probably works fine. you can tell its made in china and its really heavy for such a small kit. Then you shouldn't have bought it.  |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 7:29:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tagging for the new icon set Yeah, may as well. I've had the Wera set in my basket several times, but haven't pulled the trigger. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 7:32:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, may as well. I've had the Wera set in my basket several times, but haven't pulled the trigger. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Tagging for the new icon set Yeah, may as well. I've had the Wera set in my basket several times, but haven't pulled the trigger. I posted it on page one, it isn't available yet. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 7:36:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The New Icon set with sockets is rumored to sell for 65 dollars Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That won't compete with the $40 icon set The New Icon set with sockets is rumored to sell for 65 dollars I have three of those icon sets. They're $40 . |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 7:37:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have three of those icon sets. They're $40 . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That won't compete with the $40 icon set The New Icon set with sockets is rumored to sell for 65 dollars I have three of those icon sets. They're $40 . That's not what we're discussing. There's a new expanded set coming this year. ETA: The title of the thread, I wonder how this Craftsman mini set will compare to the upcoming Icon set? |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 7:49:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I posted it on page one, it isn't available yet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tagging for the new icon set Yeah, may as well. I've had the Wera set in my basket several times, but haven't pulled the trigger. I posted it on page one, it isn't available yet. I'm following. I'm waiting on you to post the update when it IS available. 
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Posted: 6/17/2024 7:56:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's made in Taiwan...... In every HF thread you complain about a tool that was made in China that was clearly made in Taiwan. It's like clock work. It's really odd. He’d be surprised by the number of US made tools that hold Asian patents. Some of them are Snap-On brands. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 1:50:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, may as well. I've had the Wera set in my basket several times, but haven't pulled the trigger. The Wiha set is teeny tiny in person. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 1:59:41 PM EDT
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How does the $40 Icon compare to the $28 Hart?
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Posted: 6/17/2024 2:00:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then you shouldn't have bought it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have the icon set. got it after rave reviews here. I should have known better. I am not a fan of 1/4" bit tools. it is small and probably works fine. you can tell its made in china and its really heavy for such a small kit. Then you shouldn't have bought it. No point in having anything smaller than 3/4" drive tools. Those smaller things just don't hold up to teh real jobs. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 2:11:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does the $40 Icon compare to the $28 Hart? The ratchet and extension don't seem nearly as nice and quite a few les bits, I only paid $30 for my ICON set with a coupon. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 2:14:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does the $40 Icon compare to the $28 Hart?  Hart and Milwaukee are owned by the same corp. https://www.harttools.com/products/flex-head-mini-ratchet-set So, to compare, the Hart is a 1/4 drive ratchet not bit ratchet like the Icon. Therefore it does not have a pass through, t handle or even a bit driver at the bottom. Nonetheless it has a flex head and the price is better unless you use a HF coupon. The new HF will also be a ratchet driver instead of bit driver but will have a bit socket at the end. Edit, the Hart actually appears to be a non pass thru bit holder. It has a built in bottle opener. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 2:17:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hart and Milwaukee are owned by the same corp. So, to compare, the Hart is a 1/4 drive ratchet not bit ratchet like the Icon. Therefore it does not have a pass through, t handle or even a bit driver at the bottom. Nonetheless it has a flex head and the price is better unless you use a HF coupon. The new HF will also be a ratchet driver instead of bit driver but will have a bit socket at the end. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How does the $40 Icon compare to the $28 Hart? Hart and Milwaukee are owned by the same corp. So, to compare, the Hart is a 1/4 drive ratchet not bit ratchet like the Icon. Therefore it does not have a pass through, t handle or even a bit driver at the bottom. Nonetheless it has a flex head and the price is better unless you use a HF coupon. The new HF will also be a ratchet driver instead of bit driver but will have a bit socket at the end. I wonder if the driver handle will have a socket in the back of the handle? That would be a neat addition. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 4:27:56 PM EDT
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The Hart is a Bit holder type, with a bit eject button, not a pass through. Its got a pretty smooth ratchet action. Made in South Korea. The handle end is not a bit driver, Icon beats it there. Next time HF has a good coupon I might have to pick up the Icon.
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Posted: 6/17/2024 4:39:38 PM EDT
[#22]
The Icon makes a good McGuiver tool. It can be configured many ways.
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Posted: 6/18/2024 2:43:30 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Icon stuff is made in Taiwan by good folks and some of the same factories that make higher end "budget" lines. In the words of monsieur @JLpettimoreIII ... jes as gud  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/18/2024 2:50:47 PM EDT
[#24]
I have craftsman stuff from the 50s 60s 70s and 80s, when it was still USA made.
Bought a 3/8th set in the early 2000s, marked USA on handle but sockets marked Indonesia, have had good luck with them bought a 1/4 set 5 years ago, have replaced handle 3 times, went and bought a cheap S-K to replace it wouldnt buy any of the new craftsman stuff anymore i buy cornwell or s-k stuff now but open to trying the icon stuff |
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Posted: 6/18/2024 3:57:50 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Most of the high grade HF stuff is from Taiwan. I can't believe how few people know the difference. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: harbour freight = just as gud. The better grade Harbor Freight stuff is just as good as the Chinese stuff Lowes, Craftsman, etc. sells. Why do people think Chinese tools are good when they have a old school brand name on them but not if they come from HF? Most of the high grade HF stuff is from Taiwan. I can't believe how few people know the difference. The 1/2" craftsman ratchet I got last year was also made in Taiwan, as was the deep socket set. |
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Posted: 6/18/2024 4:08:52 PM EDT
[#26]
I have used the current Icon set more than I thought I would.
The 1/4 drive adapter makes it useful for both set's of 1/4 sockets too. |
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Posted: 6/18/2024 4:53:45 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The 1/2" craftsman ratchet I got last year was also made in Taiwan, as was the deep socket set. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: harbour freight = just as gud. The better grade Harbor Freight stuff is just as good as the Chinese stuff Lowes, Craftsman, etc. sells. Why do people think Chinese tools are good when they have a old school brand name on them but not if they come from HF? Most of the high grade HF stuff is from Taiwan. I can't believe how few people know the difference. The 1/2" craftsman ratchet I got last year was also made in Taiwan, as was the deep socket set. Everyone wants to love on the Made in America Craftsman stuff but every ratchet, even Snap-On from the 20th century is crap in comparison to what we have today. A $40 Taiwanese made ratchet will beat the pants off of a top of the line one from the 1980's. With other tools there is a lot of truth there to be fair, just not ratchets. |
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Posted: 6/18/2024 4:55:06 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Craftsman brand is dead to me. |
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Posted: 6/18/2024 10:57:47 PM EDT
[#29]
New Craftsman tools are junk, the older stuff was great, and I still use them daily, but the new stuff gets broken the first few times I use them, so I just gave up and toss them when they break.
I actually like Icon tools, I've not broken one yet, and I'm hard on tools in my shop. |
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Posted: 6/20/2024 9:44:35 AM EDT
[#30]
There is an Icon DISCOUNT COUPON today on FB.
Sorry that I cannot link to FB. 15% on 2 items, 20 on 3 and 25 on 4. Code is 68936509 |
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Posted: 6/20/2024 11:43:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/20/2024 11:46:01 AM EDT
[#32]
Still waiting OP.
You can't drop this advanced news on us without a firm ETA. |
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Posted: 6/20/2024 12:01:54 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Still waiting OP. You can't drop this advanced news on us without a firm ETA. https://www.harborfreight.com/promotions/icon-hand-tools.html |
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Posted: 6/20/2024 12:02:54 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ooops, just the sale promo, not the kit itself. https://www.harborfreight.com/promotions/icon-hand-tools.html |
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Posted: 6/20/2024 12:16:35 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This one? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_4264_jpeg-3242935.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_4265_jpeg-3242937.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_4266_jpeg-3242938.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_4267_jpeg-3242939.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_4268_jpeg-3242940.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That won't compete with the $40 icon set The New Icon set with sockets is rumored to sell for 65 dollars This one? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_4264_jpeg-3242935.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_4265_jpeg-3242937.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_4266_jpeg-3242938.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_4267_jpeg-3242939.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_4268_jpeg-3242940.JPG OOoooooohhhh! Shiny!  Oh and F TikTok. |
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Posted: 6/20/2024 12:37:55 PM EDT
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Not interested in the Craftsman tools with the here it is , now its only with a recipt , now its gone warrantee . In my area there is about one lowes or harbor freight for every three or four Home Depots.
I just go to Home Depot and buy a Husky set. In the rare case I need a replacement for something I beat on and broke I pick any HD store and without doing any foolish paperwork or messing about they hand me a exact replacement or if they don't have that they give me something better. Tools hold up fine , HD stores everywhere and they make the whole process easy and fast |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 12:12:00 PM EDT
[#37]
I bought the Craftsman. It has a similar case to the Icon. It is however larger and heavier. The stronger feel normal ratchet is nice but less flexible than the Icon. It has 2 extensions plus a swivel. It has a seperate bit driver.
I think It is barely worth a 100 bucks but I think the upcoming 65 dollar Icon will in many ways be better. The Icon will have 2 sets of sockets. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 12:19:05 PM EDT
[#38]
They are both trash. Once you use quality bits like Zephyr, you won't go back.
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Posted: 6/23/2024 12:24:03 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have some Craftsman my Dad got me when I was in high school, and it is still going strong after 40 years of use. Thank you for sharing that relevant information. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 12:25:06 PM EDT
[#40]
 Look at this 65 dollar tekton set. No bits but does have storage space. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 12:40:03 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Icon already kicks the Craftsman’s ass with three details, the locking flex head, the pass through extension and the T-handle capabilities + 1/4” recess on driver’s handle end that also accepts the extension. I use mine almost every day at work. The only issue that I have is that the head no longer holds the bits in place. I need to take it to HF to exchange it (lifetime warranty), but I keep forgetting to grab it on Friday when I bounce out of work. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 1:40:18 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you for sharing that relevant information. 
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Posted: 6/23/2024 1:47:50 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: New Craftsman tools are junk, the older stuff was great, and I still use them daily, but the new stuff gets broken the first few times I use them, so I just gave up and toss them when they break. I actually like Icon tools, I've not broken one yet, and I'm hard on tools in my shop. My older USA Craftsman 10mm deep socket cracked in two places driving in a fastener with very little torque. Lowes replaced it with a Taiwanese socket. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 1:51:28 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I use mine almost every day at work. The only issue that I have is that the head no longer holds the bits in place. I need to take it to HF to exchange it (lifetime warranty), but I keep forgetting to grab it on Friday when I bounce out of work. Check to make sure the spring bit retainer is still in the head. If it is it may be stretched out a little and not engaging the detents in the driver bits. It can also get rotated so it doesn’t engage the slot in the head. I had to remove mine and bend it a little. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 1:52:40 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The upcoming Icon set will inclued SAE and Metric sockets. Any HF insiders know if these will ship soon. It is already Father's day. Heck yes |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 3:32:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2024 3:42:40 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Craftsman brand is dead to me. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 3:46:26 PM EDT
[#48]
The OP mini icon set with the screwdriver tips looks good.
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Posted: 6/23/2024 3:52:55 PM EDT
[#49]
I find myself using more and more 1/4" drive unless I'm doing suspension work or pulling the heads off an engine. For common fasteners with a 10mm head, 1/4" drive should be all you need and the small wrench fits into tight engine bays.
I already own the small Icon set and will probably buy the larger set as well. I'm planning to build my retirement shop soon and need duplicates for the common tools that I want to have at home as well. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 4:07:01 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I find myself using more and more 1/4" drive unless I'm doing suspension work or pulling the heads off an engine. For common fasteners with a 10mm head, 1/4" drive should be all you need and the small wrench fits into tight engine bays. I already own the small Icon set and will probably buy the larger set as well. I'm planning to build my retirement shop soon and need duplicates for the common tools that I want to have at home as well. 99% of the time I use 1/4 drive. I've actually worn thru the chrome on a SnapOn 3/8 and a 7/16 wrench. |
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