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Link Posted: 1/22/2024 5:25:21 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/22/2024 5:44:20 PM EDT
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More strikes in Yemen just a little bit ago...

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We almost need a US vs. Iran & proxies thread.  Though all these things are related it looks like this might drag on for a bit and in multiple locations.
Link Posted: 1/22/2024 5:47:31 PM EDT
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We almost need a US vs. Iran & proxies thread.
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World War 3 subforum?
Link Posted: 1/22/2024 5:50:23 PM EDT
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"We have always been at war with Eastasia."
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Originally Posted By darkd0r:
Greek and Roman mythology tell of a many-headed monster called the Hydra.  If you cut one head off, two more would grow.  One version of the myth held that you had to cut off the original head to kill the creature.
Israel and the West are faced with a modern Hydra, but we know which head is the one to cut off.  Whether or not we have the will and the courage remains to be seen.


"We have always been at war with Eastasia."

Eastasia? What do you mean?
Link Posted: 1/22/2024 5:52:11 PM EDT
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We almost need a US vs. Iran & proxies thread.  Though all these things are related it looks like this might drag on for a bit and in multiple locations.
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I'm guessing something like a sub forum for all these intertwined threads (war and the impending kick-off of WWIII) as if THAT groundwork hasn't been laid for a couple of years
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ETA Beat like someone who didn't refresh before posting.
Link Posted: 1/22/2024 5:52:36 PM EDT
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LOL.  Might be too broad but they way things are going...  I would keep it to US & proxies vs. Iran a proxies.  
If China kicks off Taiwan and Russia invades Poland the WW-III thread will be great for all of about two days and we are all dead.  
Link Posted: 1/22/2024 6:07:52 PM EDT
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Eastasia? What do you mean?
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Originally Posted By Tomac:
Originally Posted By darkd0r:
Greek and Roman mythology tell of a many-headed monster called the Hydra.  If you cut one head off, two more would grow.  One version of the myth held that you had to cut off the original head to kill the creature.
Israel and the West are faced with a modern Hydra, but we know which head is the one to cut off. Whether or not we have the will and the courage remains to be seen.


"We have always been at war with Eastasia."

Eastasia? What do you mean?

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Link Posted: 1/22/2024 6:16:28 PM EDT
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People who think Iran / Russia and China aren't actually out to get us...

Iran / Russia are seeking to deny us resources though military violence, controlling shipping lanes and controlling resources in places like Africa, with a long term goal of strangling us.

China is pursuing a similar strategy except more based on diplomacy and economic influence than actual military intervention, so far...

Both groups are actively using espionage to steal our technology (especially China) and disrupt our political and economic system (especially Russia).

A lot of folks are complacent thinking whatever happens overseas will have no effect on them / how bad can it get. We have enjoyed a great standard of living for a long time, and there is no reason that shouldn't continue.

But it's not guaranteed to continue. If we fail to protect our interests things like fuel shortages, sky high food prices, hunger, etc, can eventually happen to us.
Link Posted: 1/22/2024 6:54:33 PM EDT
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We almost need a US vs. Iran & proxies thread.  Though all these things are related it looks like this might drag on for a bit and in multiple locations.
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Are we finally admitting this is ALL one big conflict?
Link Posted: 1/22/2024 7:13:01 PM EDT
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Are we finally admitting this is ALL one big conflict?
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We almost need a US vs. Iran & proxies thread.  Though all these things are related it looks like this might drag on for a bit and in multiple locations.
Are we finally admitting this is ALL one big conflict?

Always has been .
Link Posted: 1/22/2024 8:27:30 PM EDT
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Eastasia? What do you mean?
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Originally Posted By Tomac:
Originally Posted By darkd0r:
Greek and Roman mythology tell of a many-headed monster called the Hydra.  If you cut one head off, two more would grow.  One version of the myth held that you had to cut off the original head to kill the creature.
Israel and the West are faced with a modern Hydra, but we know which head is the one to cut off.  Whether or not we have the will and the courage remains to be seen.


"We have always been at war with Eastasia."

Eastasia? What do you mean?

Iran, since 1979.
Eastasia quote is from the dystopian novel "1984" by George Orwell.  The populace is is kept aroused by constant war among 3 major powers, who sometimes shift alliances, but the "news" then reports that "we have always been at war with" the newly aligned adversary, which used to be an ally.
Link Posted: 1/22/2024 8:33:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/22/2024 8:40:40 PM EDT
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Who's we?
It's more of a thread function on this site and weather it would be better to have one big thread minus Israel's own wars or not.
Chasing down small threads on daily incidents a week or more later seems to become a PITA but that is sort of how this has rolled out.
Not sure what folks think on the matter.
Link Posted: 1/22/2024 9:00:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PolarBear416:
People who think Iran / Russia and China aren't actually out to get us...

Iran / Russia are seeking to deny us resources though military violence, controlling shipping lanes and controlling resources in places like Africa, with a long term goal of strangling us.

China is pursuing a similar strategy except more based on diplomacy and economic influence than actual military intervention, so far...

Both groups are actively using espionage to steal our technology (especially China) and disrupt our political and economic system (especially Russia).

A lot of folks are complacent thinking whatever happens overseas will have no effect on them / how bad can it get. We have enjoyed a great standard of living for a long time, and there is no reason that shouldn't continue.

But it's not guaranteed to continue. If we fail to protect our interests things like fuel shortages, sky high food prices, hunger, etc, can eventually happen to us.
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The DAMN TRUTH!
Link Posted: 1/22/2024 9:05:36 PM EDT
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Why do these fucking morons keep telling our enemies we don't want escalation?  Our goal is to eliminate threats to critical sea lanes and other US regional interests.

The only thing we should say is we tried diplomatic means to get the Houthis to stop, the Saudis offered them money, and we exhibited extraordinary restraint but to no avail.Our goal now is to destroy and degrade Houthi capabilities so they can't attack shipping or other critical US interests.  The Houthis started this and can stop whenever they want.
Link Posted: 1/22/2024 9:35:04 PM EDT
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Eastasia? What do you mean?
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Originally Posted By Tomac:
Originally Posted By darkd0r:
Greek and Roman mythology tell of a many-headed monster called the Hydra.  If you cut one head off, two more would grow.  One version of the myth held that you had to cut off the original head to kill the creature.
Israel and the West are faced with a modern Hydra, but we know which head is the one to cut off.  Whether or not we have the will and the courage remains to be seen.


"We have always been at war with Eastasia."

Eastasia? What do you mean?

Kids these days.
Link Posted: 1/22/2024 9:45:12 PM EDT
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Jerusalem Post:  Three IDF soldiers killed in ambush in Khan Yunis.  

The IDF on Monday announced that three IDF soldiers were killed in an ambush in Khan Yunis.

The three were IDF Maj. David Nati Alfasi, 27 from Beersheba, IDF Maj. Ilay Levy, 24 from Tel Aviv, and IDF Capt. Eyal Mevorach Twito, 22 from Beit Gamliel.

All three were in Battalion 202 of the paratroopers. The total number of fallen soldiers since October 7 is now 535.
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Link Posted: 1/22/2024 10:29:54 PM EDT
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Times of Israel--US, Britain say underground storage site targeted in latest strikes on Yemen’s Houthis
The United States and Britain carried out an additional round of strikes against Yemen’s Houthis over their targeting of Red Sea shipping, the Pentagon says, targeting an underground storage site, missiles and other Houthi military capabilities.

The Pentagon details the eight new strikes in a joint statement with Britain, as well as from Australia, Bahrain, Canada and the Netherlands, which supported the latest military action, the statement says.

“These precision strikes are intended to disrupt and degrade the capabilities that the Houthis use to threaten global trade and the lives of innocent mariners,” the statement says.

A separate statement from the UK Ministry of Defence says British aircraft used precision-guided bombs to strike multiple targets near the Sanaa airfield.
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Institute for Study of War backgrounder 22 Jan

Key Takeaways:
The Southern Gaza Strip: Israeli forces “expanded” ground operations in Khan Younis to “dismantle” Hamas’ military forces in Khan Younis.  

The IDF 98th Division is executing the “expanded” ground operation in western Khan Younis. Palestinian militias are continuing to execute a deliberate defense against the Israeli ground operation in western Khan Younis. Israeli media described the operation as the “fiercest battle” between the IDF and Palestinian militias.  An Israeli military correspondent reported that the 98th Division isolated the Khan Younis Refugee Camp after airstrikes overnight on January 21 and 22

Hamas and other Palestinian fighters are likely in the early stages of the reconstitution of their military and governance capabilities in the northern Gaza Strip. The IDF has decreased its footprint in the northern Gaza Strip since December 31, which created an absence of authority.  

There is no functioning civil authority in the northern Strip, which permits Hamas-backed governing structures to reemerge in some areas. The Israeli Army Radio’s military correspondent reported on January 16 that Hamas is attempting to reconstitute its local Police in the northern Gaza Strip and that the humanitarian aid arriving in the northern Strip comes immediately “into the hands of Hamas.”

Hamas and other Palestinian fighters have engaged Israeli forces east of Jabalia since January 18, when Hamas claimed five attacks targeting Israeli forces.  Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), mortared an Israeli supply line east of Jabalia in a combined operation with Hamas fighters on January 22.

Palestinian militias are also reconstituting militarily elsewhere in the northern Gaza Strip. Local Gazan activists and journalists reported heavy fighting in Tel al Hawa near the al Katiba Square in southwestern Gaza City on January 21.

The Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP), a leftist Palestinian militia aligned with Hamas in this war, ambushed an Israeli infantry unit that breached a house in Bureij on January 22.

The West Bank: Israeli forces clashed with Palestinian fighters seven times across the West Bank on January 22.

This number of attacks is consistent with the daily attack rate over the past week. The military wing of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine—the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades—claimed on January 22 that it conducted a combined attack with the al Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades south of Jenin. This is the group’s first attack in the West Bank since October 12.

Northern Israel and Southern Lebanon: Lebanese Hezbollah conducted nine attacks from southern Lebanon into northern Israel on January 22.

Iraq: The US Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control sanctioned Iraqi airline Fly Baghdad for aiding the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Quds Force and its militias in Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon.

The Islamic Resistance in Iraq—a coalition of Iranian-backed Iraqi militias—claimed responsibility for three attacks targeting US positions in Syria and Iraq on January 22.  The group fired two barrages of rockets targeting US forces at the Conoco Mission Support Site in Deir ez Zor Province.  The group separately claimed a drone attack targeting US forces at Ain al Asad airbase in western Iraq.

Yemen: The Houthis claimed that they conducted a missile attack targeting an American military cargo ship in the Gulf of Aden on January 22.

The Houthis are seeking new weapons from Iran, according to a January 21 report by Politico. Politico cites US and Western intelligence that the Houthis are lobbying Iran for additional weapons needed to launch missiles at freighters.

Iran: The Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) held a funeral ceremony in Tehran on January 22 for three IRGC Quds Force officers that Israel killed in Syria. Israel’s strike on January 20 was a response to Iran’s efforts to accelerate its supply of military equipment to Hezbollah, which is using the equipment to support attacks into northern Israel.

The Iranian and Pakistani foreign affairs ministries announced on January 22 that the two countries plan to renormalize diplomatic relations.
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Link Posted: 1/23/2024 7:26:28 AM EDT
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"Twenty-one Israeli soldiers were killed during fighting in southern Gaza on Monday, the military said, in the biggest single loss of life for Israeli troops inside the battered enclave since the war with Hamas began.
"In a televised statement Tuesday, Israel Defense Forces (IDF) spokesperson Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said..."Simultaneously, two two-story buildings collapsed on soldiers following an explosion. Most of the Israeli forces killed were in or near the buildings, he said.
"The buildings probably exploded because of the mines that our forces laid there, in preparation to demolish them and the infrastructure around,"  - CNN
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Times of Israel:  In deadliest incident of Gaza combat, 21 soldiers killed as buildings collapse in blast Explosion possibly caused by Palestinian RPG attack as IDF prepared structures for demolition using explosives, death toll in ground op reaches 219

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In deadliest incident of Gaza combat, 21 soldiers killed as buildings collapse in blast

Twenty-one Israeli soldiers were killed Monday when they came under attack in the southern Gaza Strip, triggering a blast that collapsed two buildings with soldiers inside them, the military said Tuesday morning.

The buildings were being rigged for demolition by troops when Palestinian gunmen fired an RPG at a tank securing the forces. A second blast then occurred in the buildings, possibly as a result of a second RPG, leading to their collapse.

It was the single deadliest incident since the start of Israel’s ground offensive in the enclave, and raised the military death toll in the operation to 219.

At a press conference Tuesday morning, Israel Defense Forces Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said that troops were operating in an area around 600 meters from the border, across from the southern Israeli community of Kissufim.

They were destroying structures and Hamas sites as part of the army’s efforts to establish a buffer zone to allow residents of Israeli border communities to return to their homes.

“At around 4 p.m., an RPG was fired by gunmen at a tank securing the forces, and simultaneously, an explosion occurred in two two-story buildings. The buildings collapsed due to this explosion, while most of the forces were inside and near them,” he said.

According to military sources, two of the soldiers were killed by the RPG fire on the tank. Several other soldiers were wounded in the blast, including one in serious condition.

Hagari said the explosion in the buildings was likely a result of mines planted by troops for the purpose of later demolishing the structures, but the cause of the detonation was still under investigation. The buildings may have been hit by a second RPG.

Rescue forces described the scene as reminiscent of the aftermath of an earthquake.
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[i]"Twenty-one Israeli soldiers were killed during fighting in southern Gaza on Monday, the military said, in the biggest single loss of life for Israeli troops inside the battered enclave since the war with Hamas began.
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Yeah, one incident accounting for 10% of the total KIA in the ground phase of the war isn't good.
Link Posted: 1/23/2024 10:42:22 AM EDT
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Yeah, one incident accounting for 10% of the total KIA in the ground phase of the war isn't good.
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[i]"Twenty-one Israeli soldiers were killed during fighting in southern Gaza on Monday, the military said, in the biggest single loss of life for Israeli troops inside the battered enclave since the war with Hamas began.
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Yeah, one incident accounting for 10% of the total KIA in the ground phase of the war isn't good.
Sounds like they were clearing it while the sappers loaded it up with demo and someone got a lucky shot off on a demo charge.
Link Posted: 1/23/2024 11:19:31 AM EDT
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There was another incident two weeks ago.  Six engineers were killed and another 5 seriously injured when they were rigging a tunnel in central Gaza for demolition.  In this case, they were all part of the IDF's dedicated anti-tunnel unit.
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The Israel Defense Forces on [9 Jan 23] released details of its initial probe of a deadly blast in the central Gaza Strip a day prior, in which six combat engineers were killed and several others were wounded.

The reservists were killed when explosives intended for demolishing a Hamas tunnel in Bureij detonated prematurely.

Combat engineers had been preparing the tunnel for demolition, rigging the underground passages with explosives.

Half an hour before the detonation was supposed to be carried out, a tank stationed near the detonating cord fired shells at a nearby building after identifying suspicious movement.

[O]ne of the shells hit an electricity pole, and the blast..activated the detonating cord, leading to the premature massive explosion of the tunnel system while the combat engineers were still...[rigging] it for demolition.

The six fatalities were named as Sgt. First Class (res.) Gavriel Bloom, 27, from Beit Shemesh; Master Sgt. (res.) Amit Moshe Shahar, 25, from Ramat Yohanan; Cpt. (res.) Denis Krokhmalov Veksler, 32, from Beersheba; Cpt. (res.) Ron Efrimi, 26, from Hod Hasharon; Master Sgt. (res.) Roi Avraham Maimon, 24, a paramedic from Afula; and Sgt. Maj. (res.) Akiva Yasinskiy, 35, from Ramat Gan.

Cpt. (res.) Ron Efrimi, (right) an officer in the Combat Engineering Corps’ Yahalom unit, shortly before he was killed in a blast in central Gaza’s Bureij, January 8, 2024.
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Haaretz:  Hezbollah Hits IDF Airbase in Northern Israel for Second Time in Two Weeks

Rocket hitting a radar at the airbase in the first attack.  The same base was attacked again today.


Hezbollah said Tuesday that it had conducted the second missile attack in two weeks on an Israel Defense Forces airbase in northern Israel, after detecting a vulnerability in the facility.

[I]nformation about the base is openly available online, and Hezbollah has hit the facility before – including at the start of the current Israeli military campaign in the north. Since then, the IDF has prepared for the possibility of further strikes on the facility.

The organization said the attack was a response to the assassinations in Lebanon and Syria on Saturday that it attributed to Israel, as well as the IDF's continued attacks on Lebanese civilians.

The IDF reported "slight damage to the air force base's infrastructure" and said there were no casualties.


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Hezbollah hits IDF airbase in northern Israel for second time in two weeks
Hezbollah says it launched the missiles in response to Israeli assassinations of Hezbollah and Quds Force commanders and after detecting a 'vulnerability' at the Israeli airbase; IDF reports 'slight damage'

Hezbollah said Tuesday that it had conducted the second missile attack in two weeks on an Israel Defense Forces airbase in northern Israel, after detecting a vulnerability in the facility.

The organization said the attack was a response to the assassinations in Lebanon and Syria on Saturday that it attributed to Israel, as well as the IDF's continued attacks on Lebanese civilians.

The IDF reported "slight damage to the air force base's infrastructure" and said there were no casualties. "No harm was inflicted on the air force's early-warning capabilities," it said, adding that the incident was under investigation.

Hezbollah attacked the same base on January 7, and the IDF reported that the strike had caused damage. A video issued by the organization showed many missiles hitting the base. Hezbollah knows precisely what is located there, and the video describes in great detail the Meron base's role in the Israeli Air Force's northern operations.

A lot of information about the base is openly available online, and Hezbollah has hit the facility before – including at the start of the current Israeli military campaign in the north. Since then, the IDF has prepared for the possibility of further strikes on the facility.

The Hezbollah announcement said the attack was in response to two incidents it blamed on Israel.

State media in Iran and Syria reported that an Israeli attack on Saturday on a building in Damascus had killed five members of the Iran's Revolutionary Guards.

An Israeli source told The New York Times that the head of the Revolutionary Guards' elite Quds Force intelligence branch was killed in the attack.

Nour News, a news outlet believed to be close to Iran's intelligence apparatus, reported that General Yousef Omidzadeh, identified as the deputy director of intelligence for the Quds Force in Syria, and his aide, Hojatollah Omidvar, were two of the five killed in the Saturday attack.

Several Iranian news sources said that the general was indeed the chief of intelligence, while others said the death toll was 10 rather than five.

In the second assassination incident, which occurred a few hours later on Saturday, an Israeli drone struck a vehicle near the southern port city of Tyre and killed two people, according to Lebanese reports. Initial reports said that the two were affiliated with Hamas, but Hezbollah later confirmed that they were its men.
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Carpet bombing just would be so much easier.

Link Posted: 1/23/2024 12:32:40 PM EDT
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TOI and Reuters:Qatar receiving ‘constant stream of replies’ from Israel, Hamas on hostage exchange, cease fire talks

Hamas rejected an Israeli offer to pause fighting for two months and release Israeli hostages in exchange for Palestinian security prisoners in stages.

Hamas leaders have also refused to leave Gaza and are demanding that Israel fully withdraw from the territory and allow Palestinians to return to their homes.

Under Israel’s proposal, Yahya Sinwar and other top Hamas leaders in Gaza would be allowed to relocate to other countries.

Israel...submitted a proposal through Qatari and Egyptian mediators that would see it agree to pause its military offensive in exchange for a phased release of the remaining 136 hostages in Gaza.

The proposal does not heed Hamas’s demand for Israel to end the war completely, but does appear to go further than Israel has gone in previous offers, two Israeli officials were cited as saying.


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Qatar receiving ‘constant stream of replies’ from Israel, Hamas on deal talks, says spokesman
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Qatar says it is engaged in “serious discussions” on a potential pause in Gaza fighting and a deal to secure the release of the hostages.

“We are engaged in serious discussions on both sides, we have presented ideas to both sides, we are getting a constant stream of replies from both sides, and that in its own right as a cause for optimism,” says Qatar’s foreign ministry spokesperson Majed Al-Ansari in a press conference

“We need to focus on the mediation process itself,” he adds.

The Associated Press reported earlier, citing an Egyptian official, that Hamas rejected an Israeli offer to pause fighting for two months and release Israeli hostages in exchange for Palestinian security prisoners in stages.

The official said that Hamas leaders have also refused to leave Gaza and are demanding that Israel fully withdraw from the territory and allow Palestinians to return to their homes.

Under Israel’s proposal, Yahya Sinwar and other top Hamas leaders in Gaza would be allowed to relocate to other countries.

The Axios news site reported on Monday that Israel had submitted a proposal through Qatari and Egyptian mediators that would see it agree to pause its military offensive in exchange for a phased release of the remaining 136 hostages in Gaza.

The proposal does not heed Hamas’s demand for Israel to end the war completely, but does appear to go further than Israel has gone in previous offers, two Israeli officials were cited as saying.

Asked about media reports earlier today that a ceasefire deal was being discussed, Israeli government spokesperson Eylon Levy said the war’s goals were unchanged.

“The destruction of Hamas’ governing and military capabilities in the Gaza Strip and the return of all the hostages,” he said. “There will be no ceasefire that leaves the hostages in Gaza and Hamas in power.”

Levy declined to elaborate on efforts to free the hostages, who were taken to Gaza following the Oct. 7 rampage in which Hamas and other militants killed some 1,200 Israelis – the trigger for the war. Levy said lives were in the balance.
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Video from Gaza of a Palestinian Islamic Jihad attack.

Looks like they managed to take something out this time.  I initially thought this showed the incident where 21 IDF soldiers were killed, but title says it's from Jabalia in northern Gaza.

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IDF finished controlled demolition of buildings where 21 soldier were killed on Monday.

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A day after the disaster: the destruction of the compound where the 21 fighters fell was completed.
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Yeah, one incident accounting for 10% of the total KIA in the ground phase of the war isn't good.
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21 being 10% of total KIA shows just how few KIA they have suffered.
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Sounds like they were clearing it while the sappers loaded it up with demo and someone got a lucky shot off on a demo charge.
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Or an inbound RPG reacted to by a trophy system set off the building's charges.
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LOL.  Might be too broad but they way things are going...  I would keep it to US & proxies vs. Iran a proxies.  
If China kicks off Taiwan and Russia invades Poland the WW-III thread will be great for all of about two days and we are all dead.  
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World War 3 subforum?



LOL.  Might be too broad but they way things are going...  I would keep it to US & proxies vs. Iran a proxies.  
If China kicks off Taiwan and Russia invades Poland the WW-III thread will be great for all of about two days and we are all dead.  


I seriously doubt there would be a major nuclear exchange, especially so quickly.
Link Posted: 1/23/2024 6:14:18 PM EDT
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21 being 10% of total KIA shows just how few KIA they have suffered.
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Fair enough.
Link Posted: 1/23/2024 6:41:49 PM EDT
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I seriously doubt there would be a major nuclear exchange, especially so quickly.
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World War 3 subforum?



LOL.  Might be too broad but they way things are going...  I would keep it to US & proxies vs. Iran a proxies.  
If China kicks off Taiwan and Russia invades Poland the WW-III thread will be great for all of about two days and we are all dead.  


I seriously doubt there would be a major nuclear exchange, especially so quickly.

And of all the places Russia might invade, Poland is last on the list. Poland would curb stomp them and they know it.


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Originally Posted By PolarBear416:
People who think Iran / Russia and China aren't actually out to get us...

Iran / Russia are seeking to deny us resources though military violence, controlling shipping lanes and controlling resources in places like Africa, with a long term goal of strangling us.

China is pursuing a similar strategy except more based on diplomacy and economic influence than actual military intervention, so far...

Both groups are actively using espionage to steal our technology (especially China) and disrupt our political and economic system (especially Russia).

A lot of folks are complacent thinking whatever happens overseas will have no effect on them / how bad can it get. We have enjoyed a great standard of living for a long time, and there is no reason that shouldn't continue.

But it's not guaranteed to continue. If we fail to protect our interests things like fuel shortages, sky high food prices, hunger, etc, can eventually happen to us.
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Pretty much this. Isolationism of the USA always leads to war, the draft and social upheaval. Think about that when you vote. But mom’s basement dwellers and GD millionaires follow the orange God.
Link Posted: 1/23/2024 6:49:52 PM EDT
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21 being 10% of total KIA shows just how few KIA they have suffered.
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Yeah, one incident accounting for 10% of the total KIA in the ground phase of the war isn't good.
21 being 10% of total KIA shows just how few KIA they have suffered.


Exactly.
Link Posted: 1/23/2024 7:50:44 PM EDT
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And of all the places Russia might invade, Poland is last on the list. Poland would curb stomp them and they know it.


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World War 3 subforum?



LOL.  Might be too broad but they way things are going...  I would keep it to US & proxies vs. Iran a proxies.  
If China kicks off Taiwan and Russia invades Poland the WW-III thread will be great for all of about two days and we are all dead.  


I seriously doubt there would be a major nuclear exchange, especially so quickly.

And of all the places Russia might invade, Poland is last on the list. Poland would curb stomp them and they know it.



Putin is like a little rooster who is scared to death. He is puffing up his feathers to scare away any aggressive neighbors. He is in deep shit and he KNOWS IT!
Link Posted: 1/23/2024 7:53:05 PM EDT
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U.S. Central Command has announced that U.S. Aircraft tonight have carried out Airstrikes on several Facilities used for Command, Storage, and Training by the Iranian-Backed Militia, Kata'ib Hezbollah (KH) across Iraq; the Airstrikes are said to be in Response to the recent Ballistic Missile Attack on Al-Asad Air Base in Western Iraq which resulted in Injuries to at least 3 American Servicemembers.
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Institute for Study of War backgrounder 23 Jan

Key Takeaways:

Northern Gaza Strip
Palestinian militias claimed attacks in areas of the northern Gaza Strip where Israeli forces previously conducted clearing operations. The claimed attacks are consistent with CTP-ISW's assessment that Hamas and other Palestinian militias are likely in the early stages of reconstituting their governance and military capabilities in the northern Gaza Strip.

Central Gaza Strip
Hamas' military wing conducted a complex attack that killed 21 Israeli soldiers in the deadliest single attack since Israeli ground operations began. The IDF Chief of Staff said that the fallen soldiers were conducting a defensive activity that will allow Israeli residents to return to their homes surrounding the Gaza Strip.

The IDF reported that Palestinian fighters fired rocket-propelled grenades (RPG) at Israeli forces near two buildings that the IDF had rigged to demolish and a nearby Israeli tank 600 meters west of Kissufim on January 22.  The RPG detonated the IDF explosives on the two buildings, causing the buildings to collapse.

The collapsing buildings and firefight killed 21 IDF soldiers.  Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.  The group claimed that its fighters fired an "anti-personnel" rocket at Israeli engineers, causing a secondary detonation that collapsed the building. The fighters simultaneously fired an anti-tank RPG at an Israeli tank and detonated a mine field in the area. Israeli media and Hamas reported that the fighters responsible for the attack escaped.

Southern Gaza Strip
Israeli forces located a large underground weapons production facility in the southern Gaza Strip.The IDF said that this facility is the largest facility it has found to date. The IDF 7th Brigade (assigned to the 36th Division) searched the 1.5-kilometer-long tunnel network during clearing operations in Khan Younis.

Palestinian fighters opened fire from tunnel entrances and detonated improvised explosive devices at tunnel entrances to prevent Israeli forces from entering the complex. Israeli forces captured the weapons production facility and a large lathe for producing rockets. Israeli forces destroyed the underground tunnel system as part of their effort to degrade Hamas' weapons and rocket production capabilities.

Palestinian militias are continuing to execute a deliberate defense against Israeli operations in western Khan Younis.

Political Negotiations
Israel proposed a two-month pause in fighting in exchange for Hamas releasing over several phases the remaining hostages held in the Gaza Strip. An anonymous Egyptian official told the Associated Press that Hamas rejected the proposal.

West Bank
Israeli forces clashed with Palestinian fighters twice in the West Bank. The IDF detained eight wanted individuals and confiscated weapons.

Southern Lebanon and Golan Heights
Lebanese Hezbollah claimed three attacks from southern Lebanon into northern Israel.

Israeli media reported that the IDF Air Force destroyed an unspecified military asset used by Hezbollah but operated by Iran.

Iraq
The Shia Coordination Framework a loose coalition of Iranian-backed Shia political factions discussed Iranian-backed militia efforts to "provoke" US self-defense strikes in a meeting.

Syria
Israel likely conducted two airstrikes targeting an IRGC weapons storage facility and an Iranian-backed militia truck transporting weapons around Albu Kamal, Syria.

Yemen
US and UK forces conducted combined strikes on eight Houthi military targets in Yemen. The Houthis are harassing UN operations and personnel in Yemen.

Iran
Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei criticized Islamic countries for not demanding a ceasefire for the Israel-Hamas war during a meeting with the Tehran branch of the Martyrs' Commemoration National Congress.
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Haaretz | News Israel-Hamas War Day 110 | Israel Says Hostage Deal Far Off; Hamas Reports at Least 210 Killed in Gaza Strikes in Past Day Jan 24, 2024

Israeli sources say negotiations for a potential new hostage deal are far from agreements ■ Finance minister: 'We won't back a long pause of the war' ■ In Israel, Britain's Cameron expected to press Netanyahu on Gaza aid ■ U.S. military strikes two Houthi anti-ship missiles in Yemen ■ 21 soldiers killed in Gaza in deadliest incident since Oct. 7

■ 'Women demand a deal now': Women's groups are protesting across Israel, calling for a new deal that would bring about the release of the hostages held by Hamas in Gaza.

■ Israeli sources involved in negotiations for a potential new hostage deal said that the parties are still far from agreeing on its terms and that the talks may take time. Hamas "absolutely" rejected an offer by Israel to end the war if the terror organization removes six senior leaders from the Gaza Strip, Reuters reported.

■ Far-right minister Bezalel Smotrich responded,"Stopping the war at such a sensitive stage, security-wise and politically, could endanger the whole system," adding that his party would not allow it. National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir said on X that he is "in favor of returning the hostages, and against a bad deal."

■ Yemen's Houthis ordered U.S. and British staff of the UN to leave the country within a month. The U.K. maritime trade authority reported an explosion near a ship in the Red Sea in western Yemen; no crew members were reported injured and there was no damage. The U.S. military carried out two more strikes in Yemen early on Wednesday, destroying two Houthi anti-ship missiles that were aimed at the Red Sea and were preparing to launch, the U.S. military said in a statement.

■ British Foreign Minister David Cameron visited Israel on Wednesday, and will meet with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Foreign Minister Israel Katz and Strategic Affairs Minister Ron Dermer. Cameron is expected to pressure Israeli officials to increase humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip, and to allow aid packages to go through the Ashdod port.

■ Israeli leaders spoke Wednesday afternoon at the Knesset in Jerusalem in a session commemorating the establishment of the Israeli parliament 75 years ago. Netanyahu said: "The war must end with the eradication of the new Nazis." Opposition Leader Yair Lapid called for a hostage release and slammed the government at the Knesset. "Victory is not just in killing Sinwar. Victory is in becoming better. Israeli President Isaac Herzog told MKs, "Even when arguing, be worthy."

■ Israeli soldiers killed dozens of terrorists in recent days and located a stockpile of weapons in Khan Yunis, according to a statement by the IDF, after the Israeli military finished encircling the city and pushed deeper into the city Monday.

■ Two anti-tank missiles were fired at northern Israel, according to the IDF spokesperson. No casualties were reported. 21 Israeli soldiers have been wounded in the last day, one of them seriously, according to IDF data. The Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry said on Wednesday that some 210 were killed and 386 were wounded in Gaza in the past 24 hours.

■ South Africa expects the UN's top court to rule this Friday on whether it will grant emergency measures to stop the war in Gaza, South African news website News24 reported on Wednesday, citing two sources close to the matter.

■ During a visit to the West Bank city of Hebron, Israel's Jerusalem Affairs and Heritage Minister Amichai Eliyahu restated his claim of dropping a nuclear weapon on the Gaza Strip. Thousands of participants are expected to gather on Sunday in Jerusalem for a "Conference for the Victory of Israel – Settlement Brings Security: Returning to the Gaza Strip and Northern Samaria." The event will reportedly be led by rabbis, settlement activists, Knesset members, ministers from the current coalition government, and others.

■ Israel refuses to provide information on the location and circumstances of the detention of dozens of Gazans imprisoned in Israel, according to the response of the attorney general's office to the petition submitted to the High Court by a Israel-based human rights organization on behalf of the families of the detainees. The Red Cross said that Israel is preventing the organization's representatives from visiting Palestinian security prisoners.

■ Israel's Mossad flatly denied on Wednesday a claim made by a Likud party MK, according to which a senior Mossad official met Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar days before the October 7 massacre."This is a recycled, untrue report," the Mossad said.
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Link Posted: 1/24/2024 10:42:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PolarBear416:
People who think Iran / Russia and China aren't actually out to get us...

Iran / Russia are seeking to deny us resources though military violence, controlling shipping lanes and controlling resources in places like Africa, with a long term goal of strangling us.

China is pursuing a similar strategy except more based on diplomacy and economic influence than actual military intervention, so far...

Both groups are actively using espionage to steal our technology (especially China) and disrupt our political and economic system (especially Russia).

A lot of folks are complacent thinking whatever happens overseas will have no effect on them / how bad can it get. We have enjoyed a great standard of living for a long time, and there is no reason that shouldn't continue.

But it's not guaranteed to continue. If we fail to protect our interests things like fuel shortages, sky high food prices, hunger, etc, can eventually happen to us.
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Nu uh! I have been told that this is all democrat propaganda by Bidden!
Link Posted: 1/24/2024 11:10:31 AM EDT
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NYT:  How a Ragtag Militia in Yemen Became a Nimble U.S. Foe

Highpoints:
The first barrage of American-led airstrikes.. hit nearly 30 locations in Yemen, destroying around 90 percent of the targets struck, Pentagon officials said. ..but the Houthis retained around 75 percent of their ability to fire missiles and drones at ships transiting the Red Sea..

Houthis have perfected the tactics of irregular warfare..the group does not have many big weapons depots for American fighter jets to bomb — they are constantly on the move with missiles they launch from pickup trucks on remote beaches before hustling away.

“There is a level of sophistication here that you can’t ignore,” said Gen. Joseph L. Votel, who led the U.S. military’s Central Command from 2016 to 2019, as Saudi Arabia was trying to defeat the Houthis in Yemen.

This middle ground reflects the administration’s attempt to chip away at the Houthis’ ability to menace merchant ships and military vessels but not hit so hard as to kill large numbers of Houthi fighters and commanders, potentially unleashing even more mayhem into the region.

Weapons that are destroyed are soon replaced by Iran, as a never-ending stream of dhows ferry more weaponry into Yemen, U.S. officials say.

The Houthis are believed to have had underground assembly and manufacturing sites even before the civil war began in Yemen in 2014.  Since then, it has amassed a diverse and increasingly lethal arsenal of cruise and ballistic missiles and one-way attack drones, most supplied by Iran

Hezbollah “trained them to be able to adapt to the changes of the war in Yemen,” [a Yemeni official] said in an interview. “They did not train them on the specifics, but on how to be very dynamic.”

That leaves the United States and its coalition partners with only three viable options, given the parameters of President Biden’s strategic aims.  They could commandeer the weapons coming by sea from Iran; find the missiles, which requires extensive intelligence; or attack the launch sites.

The third option is the hardest. Houthi militants are believed to hide mobile missile launchers in a range of locations, anywhere from inside culverts to beneath highway overpasses. They are easily moved for hasty launches.

The Houthi mobile maneuvers worked so well against Saudi Arabia that the Marines began to copy them. They developed a mobile radar, essentially a Simrad Halo24 radar — you can get one for about $3,000 at Bass Pro Shops — that can be put on any fishing boat. It takes five minutes to set up. The Marines, like the Houthis, have been looking into how to use the radars to send data back on what’s going on at sea.
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Israeli Army Weighs Plan to Arm West Bank Settlements With Anti-tank Missiles.  (Article might be behind paywall, entire article can be found in quote box below).

The Israeli military is exploring the option of arming civilian security squads in isolated West Bank settlements and others close to Palestinian villages with anti-tank missiles.

The army so far has distributed a considerable amount of weapons and munitions to civilian security squads for reinforcement, including thousands of pistols, M-16 semiautomatic rifles and machine guns.

IDF officials explained that the process is designed to boost the defense of the settlements so that their residents would be equipped to respond quickly in case of a mass invasion with vehicles, as transpired in the massacre of the Gaza Border Communities. Hamas terrorists invaded on cars and motorcycles during the massacre, and Israeli security forces as well as armed civilians struggled to target the vehicles while awaiting the arrival of the air force.

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Israeli army weighs plan to arm West Bank settlements with anti-tank missiles

The Israeli military is exploring the option of arming civilian security squads in isolated West Bank settlements and others close to Palestinian villages with anti-tank missiles.

The suggested action, which IDF officials confirmed is currently being considered, is intended to address a scenario in which terrorists raid West Bank settlements in cars, similar to what transpired during the October 7 massacres in Israeli communities along the border with Gaza. IDF commanders have not expressed opposition in meetings held so far, and the plan is now awaiting approval by senior security officials.

Growing tensions in the West Bank and pressure from senior right-wing politicians and military security coordinators since the war broke out are the motives behind the plan. The army so far has distributed a considerable amount of weapons and munitions to civilian security squads for reinforcement, including thousands of pistols, M-16 semiautomatic rifles and machine guns.

The plan calls for allocating the missiles to the commanders of the security squads, which they'd have to keep in a weapons storeroom or in another way, according to the army's demand. The commanders and the military security coordinators in the settlements would be responsible for the anti-tank missiles. Security squads consist of civilian members who assist with the defense of settlements in emergency situations. They operate under the IDF's Central Command.

IDF officials explained that the process is designed to boost the defense of the settlements so that their residents would be equipped to respond quickly in case of a mass invasion with vehicles, as transpired in the massacre of the Gaza Border Communities. Hamas terrorists invaded on cars and motorcycles during the massacre, and Israeli security forces as well as self-defending individuals struggled to target the vehicles while awaiting the arrival of the air force.
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ETA--Full article inside spoiler was published in an Israeli paper in November.  It describes arms that Israelis who live near borders currently have.  
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