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Posted: 2/7/2024 12:36:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadow_Dancer: I guess its more or less a market / regional taste model because I can tell you, I was working out of our Orange and LA County offices the last 12 days and every day I saw at least 3-4 Taycans. Definitely never less than 1 a day. Saw more of them than I did 911s or even Cayennes. I drove one at the Porsche Experience in Carson. It handled better than expected and the controlled launch was insane. Agreed that they are a common sight in SoCal. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 8:38:55 AM EDT
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2024 8:48:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2024 8:51:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2024 10:03:57 AM EDT
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Alpine A524
They will run both a blue and a pink livery this year.   
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2024 10:11:27 AM EDT
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I like it.
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Posted: 2/7/2024 10:12:33 AM EDT
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They need a rule to prevent all of this naked carbon fiber with a splash of color, the grid is going to look like a funeral procession.
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Posted: 2/7/2024 10:21:56 AM EDT
[#8]
What happened to the pink camp they were talking about a few weeks ago?
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Posted: 2/7/2024 10:28:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Spartan16: Pic Horner sent to female worker prompting investigation?  Click To View Spoiler  Attached FileOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Alpine A524 They will run both a blue and a pink livery this year. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFvUCaNWcAA3zBh?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFvT0V9XoAA_csU?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFvUEn3WYAAofwq?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 I dig it. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 12:25:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan: What happened to the pink camp they were talking about a few weeks ago? Sadly was just a tease, not even a testing livery  
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Posted: 2/7/2024 2:03:07 PM EDT
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Teaser from Ferrari
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Posted: 2/7/2024 2:19:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Teaser from Ferrari https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFwJ8enW4AAdJ2z?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Even more McDonalds looking. 
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2024 2:46:17 PM EDT
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Oh look, it's red with some yellow.
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Posted: 2/7/2024 2:49:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TarawaS2000: Even more McDonalds looking. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TarawaS2000: Originally Posted By DCV_117: Teaser from Ferrari https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFwJ8enW4AAdJ2z?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Even more McDonalds looking. Instead, it's going to look like a '77 Ford fire truck. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2024 3:15:31 PM EDT
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Think they need to do car launches with the actual car, even though it might be changed for the first test. Not a rendering. It’s becoming more of a livery launch than a car launch.
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Posted: 2/7/2024 3:18:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Teaser from Ferrari https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFwJ8enW4AAdJ2z?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 4:22:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: Think they need to do car launches with the actual car, even though it might be changed for the first test. Not a rendering. It’s becoming more of a livery launch than a car launch. Credit to Alpine for doing that for two years in a row now. They also have one of their engineers explain the philosophy behind the design. It's very technical versus some car launches which are literally just corporate circle jerks. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 5:11:30 PM EDT
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Vcarb is about to have the best livery on the grid
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Posted: 2/7/2024 5:35:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TarawaS2000: Even more McDonalds looking. I hate the fact that was my first thought. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 5:37:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tobysi]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Vcarb is about to have the best livery on the grid https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFwn_WEW0AANmHd?format=jpg&name=medium Hmm. I actually like it. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2024 5:57:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Teaser from Ferrari https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFwJ8enW4AAdJ2z?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Why are they teasing misaligning a wheel nut and causing a retirement after the car drops a wheel 1/8 mile from pit exit? 
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MD, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2024 5:58:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deadtired: Does Puma have to sell a certain number of "homologation special" gloves to the public in order to meet regs? Not for safety gear, no. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:14:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadow_Dancer: Why are they teasing misaligning a wheel nut and causing a retirement after the car drops a wheel 1/8 mile from pit exit? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadow_Dancer: Originally Posted By DCV_117: Teaser from Ferrari https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFwJ8enW4AAdJ2z?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Why are they teasing misaligning a wheel nut and causing a retirement after the car drops a wheel 1/8 mile from pit exit? Thats Haas MO, not Ferrari's |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:42:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadow_Dancer: Why are they teasing misaligning a wheel nut and causing a retirement after the car drops a wheel 1/8 mile from pit exit? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadow_Dancer: Originally Posted By DCV_117: Teaser from Ferrari https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFwJ8enW4AAdJ2z?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Why are they teasing misaligning a wheel nut and causing a retirement after the car drops a wheel 1/8 mile from pit exit? He who lives in glass houses (Mercedes) should not joke about wheel nuts. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:53:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: He who lives in glass houses (Mercedes) should not joke about wheel nuts. Oh no, for the avoidance of doubt AMG cocks it up every now and then too. But not the way Ferrari does. They do it with a little bit of extra Italian pizzaz. 
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Posted: 2/7/2024 8:49:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadow_Dancer: Oh no, for the avoidance of doubt AMG cocks it up every now and then too. But not the way Ferrari does. They do it with a little bit of extra Italian pizzaz. https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1400/1*rH83-dB_sI274-jd6xqI9Q.jpeg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadow_Dancer: Originally Posted By fike: He who lives in glass houses (Mercedes) should not joke about wheel nuts. Oh no, for the avoidance of doubt AMG cocks it up every now and then too. But not the way Ferrari does. They do it with a little bit of extra Italian pizzaz. https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1400/1*rH83-dB_sI274-jd6xqI9Q.jpeg Nothing beats a news report days after the race notifying everyone that they were finally able to get the nut off. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 8:57:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Nothing beats a news report days after the race notifying everyone that they were finally able to get the nut off. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 9:13:10 PM EDT
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Did Caterham evolve into any of the current teams or just get liquidated?
 Does anyone have a family tree for each of the current teams? Anyone have roots in Hesketh, Ensign, March? |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2024 9:36:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Nothing beats a news report days after the race notifying everyone that they were finally able to get the nut off. Clearly you have never used an air supplied, impact gun. What F1 uses, these things are those - but on a regime of steroids and a BCAA stack. LMAO! Their kit kicks out like 3,000ft/lbs of torque at over 15,000 rpm. With that much power, unless the taper is perfectly aligned to the hub, a cross threaded nut is bound to happen at some point. Not mention mating all the wackiness of mating Titanium to press up against Magnesium. Two metals with different expansion and contraction characteristics. But not tightening the nut though or releasing the car without a wheel tightened, yikes. How do you cock that up?! The guns are designed to clutch in once full torque yield is reached and flash a signal light. Unless you hear (and feel) "BRRRRRRRTTTTT" and see a blinking LED on the body, Luigi, your nut is still loose. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2024 9:44:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rope-A-Dope: Did Caterham evolve into any of the current teams or just get liquidated? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rope-A-Dope: Did Caterham evolve into any of the current teams or just get liquidated? Wow, now there is a name I haven't put to memory in a bit. I don't know what happened to them. If I remember correctly, Caterham was partially absorbed by Lotus and then fell into the wacky year where we had two different teams calling themselves "Lotus" in the field - one was the real Lotus and the other was a smarty-smart who bought the rights to the name Lotus F1. I forget which was which, but i think the Caterham Lotus ran a Black/Gold scheme and the real Lotus ran in BRG. But again, I'm bit hazy on this. Happy to be proven wrong. Odd team to think about - what made you bring it up? Does anyone have a family tree for each of the current teams? Anyone have roots in Hesketh, Ensign, March? I'd be curious to see a F1 Family Tree as well. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 11:08:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadow_Dancer: Odd team to think about - what made you bring it up? See post #28 above. Careful if you google "stripped nuts" I guess... |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2024 11:40:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rope-A-Dope: See post #28 above. Careful if you google "stripped nuts" I guess...   TikTok | PH intro compilation #1 |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 7:05:37 AM EDT
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Apparently the Red Bull clash comes from a helmut Marco / Christian Horner power struggle
Apparently Jos Verstappen is part of the people feeding the flames |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 7:36:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: chaas67]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shung: Apparently the Red Bull clash comes from a helmut Marco / Christian Horner power struggle Apparently Jos Verstappen is part of the people feeding the flames I read an article alluding to that on motorsports.com last night. I can’t find it now but here is the video that led me down that rabbit hole. Skip the first 11 minutes or so of babble and then the article and commentary start.  NEW DETAILS of Horner vs Verstappen DRAMA ?? ETA - Here is a Reddit thread that has copy/pastes of the article - Paerhaps someone can find the English version of the article (found the German and Dutch versions) Reddit thread |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 7:57:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DCV_117]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadow_Dancer: Wow, now there is a name I haven't put to memory in a bit. I don't know what happened to them. If I remember correctly, Caterham was partially absorbed by Lotus and then fell into the wacky year where we had two different teams calling themselves "Lotus" in the field - one was the real Lotus and the other was a smarty-smart who bought the rights to the name Lotus F1. I forget which was which, but i think the Caterham Lotus ran a Black/Gold scheme and the real Lotus ran in BRG. But again, I'm bit hazy on this. Happy to be proven wrong. Odd team to think about - what made you bring it up? I'd be curious to see a F1 Family Tree as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadow_Dancer: Originally Posted By Rope-A-Dope: Did Caterham evolve into any of the current teams or just get liquidated? Wow, now there is a name I haven't put to memory in a bit. I don't know what happened to them. If I remember correctly, Caterham was partially absorbed by Lotus and then fell into the wacky year where we had two different teams calling themselves "Lotus" in the field - one was the real Lotus and the other was a smarty-smart who bought the rights to the name Lotus F1. I forget which was which, but i think the Caterham Lotus ran a Black/Gold scheme and the real Lotus ran in BRG. But again, I'm bit hazy on this. Happy to be proven wrong. Odd team to think about - what made you bring it up? Does anyone have a family tree for each of the current teams? Anyone have roots in Hesketh, Ensign, March? I'd be curious to see a F1 Family Tree as well. Caterham came in as a new team in 2010 but called themselves Lotus. Then in 2012 Lotus took over the Enstone team from Renault so Caterham had to stop calling themselves Lotus and start going by Caterham. The team was dissolved after the 2014 season. See below, might be easier to view it in a new tab. 
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Posted: 2/8/2024 8:13:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: I read an article alluding to that on motorsports.com last night. I can’t find it now but here is the video that led me down that rabbit hole. Skip the first 11 minutes or so of babble and then the article and commentary start.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eP_t2e8ohYETA - Here is a Reddit thread that has copy/pastes of the article - Paerhaps someone can find the English version of the article (found the German and Dutch versions) Reddit thread Sounds like Horner is a dead man, and they were just looking for an excuse to get rid of him.
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Posted: 2/8/2024 8:30:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Sounds like Horner is a dead man, and they were just looking for an excuse to get rid of him.
Woah - that’s going to leave a mark on Horner. Can you imagine the chaos that would happen at RB if they were performing poorly?! |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 9:15:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shung: Apparently the Red Bull clash comes from a helmut Marco / Christian Horner power struggle Apparently Jos Verstappen is part of the people feeding the flames |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 9:35:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Sounds like Horner is a dead man, and they were just looking for an excuse to get rid of him.
That “story” sounds made up. Always a German source as well. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 11:01:30 AM EDT
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No matter what happens...RB might be fucked after this year.
This year's car is basically done.....2025....ugh. I know there's been some noise about Toto going after Max for Mercedes.....what if....they tried to get him and Newey? |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 11:03:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: exDefensorMilitas]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: No matter what happens...RB might be fucked after this year. This year's car is basically done.....2025....ugh. I know there's been some noise about Toto going after Max for Mercedes.....what if....they tried to get him and Newey? I'm failing to see a reason for either of them to go to Merc. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 11:13:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shung: Apparently the Red Bull clash comes from a helmut Marco / Christian Horner power struggle Apparently Jos Verstappen is part of the people feeding the flames Man, that’s a lot of assholes in one room. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 11:18:05 AM EDT
[#43]
Well I for one have appreciated the entertainment as we wait for the season to begin
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Posted: 2/8/2024 11:35:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shung: Apparently the Red Bull clash comes from a helmut Marco / Christian Horner power struggle Apparently Jos Verstappen is part of the people feeding the flames What i find humorous about this is that parents are the same whether it’s T-ball or F1 racing.  |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 11:36:53 AM EDT
[#45]
The only way Max is going to Merc is if he can’t beat them in an RB.
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Posted: 2/8/2024 11:47:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: I'm failing to see a reason for either of them to go to Merc. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: Originally Posted By poison123: No matter what happens...RB might be fucked after this year. This year's car is basically done.....2025....ugh. I know there's been some noise about Toto going after Max for Mercedes.....what if....they tried to get him and Newey? I'm failing to see a reason for either of them to go to Merc. Depends on how much faith you have in RB Powertrains and Ford... |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 12:16:12 PM EDT
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On Red Bull:
- If Horner gets pushed out, Jonathan Wheatley will move over to team principal pretty naturally. If big RB keep him as interim and replace him with an outsider, there will be issues. - Drivers generally telegraph what ends up being future moves. Hamilton had a history of telegraphing a possible move to Ferrari while Max has been telegraphing leaving the sport “early”. Anything can happen (Mercedes), but we have seen nothing but public honesty from Max. - Newey is currently writing his final chapter in the sport and the RB17 project will keep him around for a few more years. Hell, his son is running the customer portion of that project. He is currently 65 and in a perfect position to go out in style. He isn’t going to start over with a new team. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 12:39:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: No matter what happens...RB might be fucked after this year. This year's car is basically done.....2025....ugh. I know there's been some noise about Toto going after Max for Mercedes.....what if....they tried to get him and Newey? Sounds like Max would be getting what he wants by Horner leaving. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 2:12:11 PM EDT
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LOL this dumb shit is picking up steam:
EXCLUSIVE: Sources reveal there are extensive plans to hold an F1 race in Chicago The event may be named either the "North American Grand Prix" or the "Chicago Festival Grand Prix”, as the trademark application for the “Chicago Grand Prix” name will likely be rejected. 📅 Race looks to be targeted for late April-Mid June to coincide with ideal weather and the right fit in the calendar, preferably before or after Canada. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 2:30:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: LOL this dumb shit is picking up steam: EXCLUSIVE: Sources reveal there are extensive plans to hold an F1 race in Chicago The event may be named either the "North American Grand Prix" or the "Chicago Festival Grand Prix", as the trademark application for the "Chicago Grand Prix" name will likely be rejected. Race looks to be targeted for late April-Mid June to coincide with ideal weather and the right fit in the calendar, preferably before or after Canada. |
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