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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:07:19 AM EDT
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LoL if some of you would have been alive back in WW2 you would have been crying about sanctioning Germany and Japan
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:07:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheResurrector: Yep, remember how we used to criticize Saddam Hussein as being a despicable tyrant for punishing family members of his opponents? Now we are the despicable tyrant and most of the fools here are cheering it on.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheResurrector: Originally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By outofbattery: Thread on Lavrov’s stepdaughter. She,as a person,isn’t important but 2 things are: The Brits have more than welcomed all this filthy Russian,Iranian and Arab money for decades. She has a $5 million apartment in London and a quarter of Russians still use outhouses.
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What they use on them will be used on you... Yep, remember how we used to criticize Saddam Hussein as being a despicable tyrant for punishing family members of his opponents? Now we are the despicable tyrant and most of the fools here are cheering it on. Yep. Remember when your parents said the "TV will rot your brain"? I understand what they ment now and I sadly think most didn't heed the warnings. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:08:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: LoL if some of you would have been alive back in WW2 you would have been crying about sanctioning Germany and Japan Aint that the truth There was a not so small group that did support Germany before the US entered. There are always dumbasses. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:08:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: LoL if some of you would have been alive back in WW2 you would have been crying about sanctioning Germany and Japan And some of you would have volunteered to build the internment camps. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:08:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: I'm all for giving a questionnaire to every potential immigrant and keeping out the socialists, communists, and Marxists. But, unfortunately the USA s now a free for all country where treason is is legal under the 1st Amendment. Thanks Libertarians... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: Originally Posted By Chokey:
Let them stay in Europe. They will be a majority Democratic voting block How many Ukrainians do you know? Ukrainians are very anti communist. It is proven with the legal immigrants who have come here A 2012 study of 2,900 foreign-born, naturalized immigrants cited in the report showed that about 62 percent identified themselves as Democrats, while 25 percent identified as Republicans, and 13 percent identified as independents I'm all for giving a questionnaire to every potential immigrant and keeping out the socialists, communists, and Marxists. But, unfortunately the USA s now a free for all country where treason is is legal under the 1st Amendment. Thanks Libertarians... 
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:09:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: So your position is to not use the tool at all? Should the whole justice system be scrapped because it's misused? No jail because it's misused? No cops because they are misused? After all, the correct usage of all these tools- including drones, guns, and sanctions, are all subjective. Follow your own logic to its own conclusion, then go sit in the corner and think about what you said. ETA- I have been personally effected by some of these idiotic sanctions, so you're preaching to the choir. I still understand that they're useful tools when used correctly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By outofbattery: Thread on Lavrov's stepdaughter. She,as a person,isn't important but 2 things are: The Brits have more than welcomed all this filthy Russian,Iranian and Arab money for decades. She has a $5 million apartment in London and a quarter of Russians still use outhouses.
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What they use on them will be used on you... Well damn, we better just let them do whatever they want then. I don't want to end up with a javelin through my car roof. A tool is a tool. No better or worse than the person/entity wielding it. You should understand this logic being on a gun forum. Don't be a spoiled brat that buys a 4 million pound mansion in a foreign country with dirty money whose daddy is waging an unjustified war, and you won't get sanctioned. Simple. If that tool is misused, then there's right to complain. But using this tool (whether guns or sanctions) against people that deserve it, is not a bad thing. A tool being used "right" is subjective. I bet if you asked a Democrat, using a military owned, national level, tier 1 spy plane to eavesdrop on a trucker protest convoy was "right." To others, that may look like a gross (and illegal) misuse of government resources to target political opponents. So your position is to not use the tool at all? Should the whole justice system be scrapped because it's misused? No jail because it's misused? No cops because they are misused? After all, the correct usage of all these tools- including drones, guns, and sanctions, are all subjective. Follow your own logic to its own conclusion, then go sit in the corner and think about what you said. ETA- I have been personally effected by some of these idiotic sanctions, so you're preaching to the choir. I still understand that they're useful tools when used correctly. Not using it on them won't keep it from being used on us. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:09:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: LoL if some of you would have been alive back in WW2 you would have been crying about sanctioning Germany and Japan QFT Arf would be complaining about sanctioning members of the Nazi party elite. Only one side here has explicitly threated the use of nuclear weapons. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:09:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: That was beautiful and sooo deserved. EVERY representative of actual democracies should give a similar speech. FJT. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Dagger41: Trudeaux get's fucking OWNED at NATO Summit.
That was beautiful and sooo deserved. EVERY representative of actual democracies should give a similar speech. FJT. FJB should be chastised similarly for trying to require the same thing |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:10:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMCTanker: Do you know that for a fact? That's very interesting if so; Putin must have really done something to spook NCA beyond the invasion itself and his words. On the one hand and if this is true, it shows Putin we and our allies have the resolve to retaliate and more importantly, we're not frozen in fear of Putin's threats. OTOH, it shows how much this situation is spinning out of control. The only thing IMO that will prevent a wider war at this point is to put our forces on a war footing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMCTanker: Originally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By NEXT23: So what do I need to be watching for. France running out all their subs is one…..and? The Brits and the US doing the same. While the Brits doing it may raise some eyebrows, the US doing it is a huge tell about the nervousness of the west and the likelihood Putin will do something even more stupid than he's already done. Do you know that for a fact? That's very interesting if so; Putin must have really done something to spook NCA beyond the invasion itself and his words. On the one hand and if this is true, it shows Putin we and our allies have the resolve to retaliate and more importantly, we're not frozen in fear of Putin's threats. OTOH, it shows how much this situation is spinning out of control. The only thing IMO that will prevent a wider war at this point is to put our forces on a war footing. Sorry, I wasn't clear. My comment was in response to the question asked about what he should be looking for. I'd be looking for whether the Brits and the US do the same thing as the French. I haven't seen any evidence of that (not that I'd know where to look for it anyways). But, *if* those events occur, then that would be bad. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:11:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whollyshite: And some of you would have volunteered to build the internment camps. Just for collaborators 
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:11:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: it's a bird Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: Originally Posted By NY12ga:
it's a bird It's Supermannnnn!!! |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:11:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By disco_jon75: Yeah, everyone cheering the confiscation/freezing of the assets of Russian oligarchs... and their children... What happened to the concept of innocent until proven guilty? Was Polina doing something illegal? Are they US citizens? Different rights for different folks. If they were US citizens I would feel dramatically different about it. Due process is important, but I don't believe the bill of rights should apply to foreign citizens. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:13:07 AM EDT
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neato!
I wonder how many advising advisors there are over there. advising on how to blow ships up. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:15:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: As long as we send the like number of Indians and Pakistanis back to India and Pakistan Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Originally Posted By CZ75_9MM: Should at least double that number. As long as we send the like number of Indians and Pakistanis back to India and Pakistan You're nominated for the next head of ICE.... 
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:15:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Mal_means_bad]
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Niall Ferguson, Bloomberg
"The only end game now," a senior administration official was heard to say at a private event earlier this month, "is the end of Putin regime. Until then, all the time Putin stays, [Russia] will be a pariah state that will never be welcomed back into the community of nations. China has made a huge error in thinking Putin will get away with it. Seeing Russia get cut off will not look like a good vector and they'll have to re-evaluate the Sino-Russia axis. All this is to say that democracy and the West may well look back on this as a pivotal strengthening moment." I gather that senior British figures are talking in similar terms. There is a belief that "the U.K.'s No. 1 option is for the conflict to be extended and thereby bleed Putin." Again and again, I hear such language. It helps explain, among other things, the lack of any diplomatic effort by the U.S. to secure a cease-fire. It also explains the readiness of President Joe Biden to call Putin a war criminal. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:15:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: Just for collaborators Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: Originally Posted By whollyshite: And some of you would have volunteered to build the internment camps. Just for collaborators That's not exactly how it worked out, is it? |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:15:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walleyeguy24: Are they US citizens? Different rights for different folks. If they were US citizens I would feel dramatically different about it. Due process is important, but I don't believe the bill of rights should apply to foreign citizens. Are our rights endowed by our creator or granted by our government? Of course once you start bombing people you forfeit many of those rights. The assets of a war criminal in his daughters hands are just as good as in his .. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:16:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whollyshite: Civil forfeiture is awesome. The only thing better is persecution due to crimes committed by relatives. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By outofbattery: Thread on Lavrov’s stepdaughter. She,as a person,isn’t important but 2 things are: The Brits have more than welcomed all this filthy Russian,Iranian and Arab money for decades. She has a $5 million apartment in London and a quarter of Russians still use outhouses.
sanctioned.
What they use on them will be used on you... Well damn, we better just let them do whatever they want then. I don't want to end up with a javelin through my car roof. A tool is a tool. No better or worse than the person/entity wielding it. You should understand this logic being on a gun forum. Don't be a spoiled brat that buys a 4 million pound mansion in a foreign country with dirty money whose daddy is waging an unjustified war, and you won't get sanctioned. Simple. If that tool is misused, then there's right to complain. But using this tool (whether guns or sanctions) against people that deserve it, is not a bad thing. A tool being used "right" is subjective. I bet if you asked a Democrat, using a military owned, national level, tier 1 spy plane to eavesdrop on a trucker protest convoy was "right." To others, that may look like a gross (and illegal) misuse of government resources to target political opponents. So your position is to not use the tool at all? Should the whole justice system be scrapped because it's misused? No jail because it's misused? No cops because they are misused? After all, the correct usage of all these tools- including drones, guns, and sanctions, are all subjective. Follow your own logic to its own conclusion, then go sit in the corner and think about what you said. I'm not seeing this akin to being jailed through the justice system. A better analogy would be more like red flag laws. Take it now and fight a government with exponentially more resources to get it back. I missed the due process listed in any of these posts. Can you point it out? Did she get a day in court? If so, and standard rules were followed, then that's fine. Maybe they did prove, in court, that she was somehow responsible for anything going on in Ukraine. Maybe she helped plan the entire invasion, and that was all vetted in a court of law. I bet they really hung on every word of a 20 year old Instagram girl for central planning. (Seeing how well they've done, it may be true. )Assuming that she didn't get a trial, and true links weren't found to Lavrov, then I'll stick by my original statement. These new resources (and similar are going on in America) can be used against you. Watch what you celebrate as a "win." She is unemployed with a 4mil mansion....you think links are questionable? Fuck her and her dad. She can go back to Russia. Sounds like UK laws were followed anyway. Civil forfeiture is awesome. The only thing better is persecution due to crimes committed by relatives. Or being blacklisted from your bank account or any other business/service due to twitter mob outrage without committing any crime or due process. "That's a win for the good guys, i tell you wat"  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:16:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: glklvr]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: It is proven with the legal immigrants who have come here A 2012 study of 2,900 foreign-born, naturalized immigrants cited in the report showed that about 62 percent identified themselves as Democrats, while 25 percent identified as Republicans, and 13 percent identified as independents Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: Originally Posted By Chokey:
Let them stay in Europe. They will be a majority Democratic voting block How many Ukrainians do you know? Ukrainians are very anti communist. It is proven with the legal immigrants who have come here A 2012 study of 2,900 foreign-born, naturalized immigrants cited in the report showed that about 62 percent identified themselves as Democrats, while 25 percent identified as Republicans, and 13 percent identified as independents It depends on the culture. People who immigrate from countries where they are dependent on the gov will vote to continue to be dependent. Those who don't come from those cultures or countries won't vote that way. You can't lump them all together. Look where most of our legal immigrants come from. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:17:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whollyshite: Civil forfeiture is awesome. The only thing better is persecution due to crimes committed by relatives. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By outofbattery: Thread on Lavrov's stepdaughter. She,as a person,isn't important but 2 things are: The Brits have more than welcomed all this filthy Russian,Iranian and Arab money for decades. She has a $5 million apartment in London and a quarter of Russians still use outhouses.
sanctioned.
What they use on them will be used on you... Well damn, we better just let them do whatever they want then. I don't want to end up with a javelin through my car roof. A tool is a tool. No better or worse than the person/entity wielding it. You should understand this logic being on a gun forum. Don't be a spoiled brat that buys a 4 million pound mansion in a foreign country with dirty money whose daddy is waging an unjustified war, and you won't get sanctioned. Simple. If that tool is misused, then there's right to complain. But using this tool (whether guns or sanctions) against people that deserve it, is not a bad thing. A tool being used "right" is subjective. I bet if you asked a Democrat, using a military owned, national level, tier 1 spy plane to eavesdrop on a trucker protest convoy was "right." To others, that may look like a gross (and illegal) misuse of government resources to target political opponents. So your position is to not use the tool at all? Should the whole justice system be scrapped because it's misused? No jail because it's misused? No cops because they are misused? After all, the correct usage of all these tools- including drones, guns, and sanctions, are all subjective. Follow your own logic to its own conclusion, then go sit in the corner and think about what you said. I'm not seeing this akin to being jailed through the justice system. A better analogy would be more like red flag laws. Take it now and fight a government with exponentially more resources to get it back. I missed the due process listed in any of these posts. Can you point it out? Did she get a day in court? If so, and standard rules were followed, then that's fine. Maybe they did prove, in court, that she was somehow responsible for anything going on in Ukraine. Maybe she helped plan the entire invasion, and that was all vetted in a court of law. I bet they really hung on every word of a 20 year old Instagram girl for central planning. (Seeing how well they've done, it may be true. )Assuming that she didn't get a trial, and true links weren't found to Lavrov, then I'll stick by my original statement. These new resources (and similar are going on in America) can be used against you. Watch what you celebrate as a "win." She is unemployed with a 4mil mansion....you think links are questionable? Fuck her and her dad. She can go back to Russia. Sounds like UK laws were followed anyway. Civil forfeiture is awesome. The only thing better is persecution due to crimes committed by relatives. Spare me the crocodile tears for the commie instawhore. She just gets to go back to Russia, that's it. If they were rounding up Russian nationals and executing them I'd get more worked up. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:18:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: She is unemployed with a 4mil mansion....you think links are questionable? Fuck her and her dad. She can go back to Russia. Sounds like UK laws were followed anyway. Boris Johnson encouraged more Russian oligarchs to come to Londongrad. He,and every British banker,realtor and luxury car dealer,wanted their dirty money and now has to be tough to deflect from how much support he got from them. MI6 warmed Johnson and he still made Lebedev a member of the House of Lords https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/31/evgeny-lebedev-jo-johnson-and-ian-botham-among-36-peerage-nominations-boris |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:20:10 AM EDT
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Pretty good Russian nuclear article that was linked on FAS.org. I know it’s mostly assessments but still good info.
https://thebulletin.org/premium/2022-02/nuclear-notebook-how-many-nuclear-weapons-does-russia-have-in-2022/ |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:20:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr: Get real. It depend on the culture. People who immigrate from countries where they are dependent on the gov will vote to continue to be dependent. Those who don't come from those cultures or countries won't vote that way. You can't lump them all together. Look where most of our legal immigrants come from. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr: Originally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: Originally Posted By Chokey:
Let them stay in Europe. They will be a majority Democratic voting block How many Ukrainians do you know? Ukrainians are very anti communist. It is proven with the legal immigrants who have come here A 2012 study of 2,900 foreign-born, naturalized immigrants cited in the report showed that about 62 percent identified themselves as Democrats, while 25 percent identified as Republicans, and 13 percent identified as independents Get real. It depend on the culture. People who immigrate from countries where they are dependent on the gov will vote to continue to be dependent. Those who don't come from those cultures or countries won't vote that way. You can't lump them all together. Look where most of our legal immigrants come from. Honestly we need to shut this down. This is really off topic to the rest of the thread. Need to focus on the Ukranians fighting to try and keep their own country |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:21:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whollyshite: Civil forfeiture is awesome. The only thing better is persecution due to crimes committed by relatives. This isn't a dude having his money taken over having some dope at a traffic stop. This women takes full advantage of her step-dad's power of position and crony dealings in the Russian government and acts as a stooge spouting their propaganda. It would suit her well to get tossed back to Russia. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:21:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Niall Ferguson, Bloomberg "The only end game now," a senior administration official was heard to say at a private event earlier this month, "is the end of Putin regime. Until then, all the time Putin stays, [Russia] will be a pariah state that will never be welcomed back into the community of nations. China has made a huge error in thinking Putin will get away with it. Seeing Russia get cut off will not look like a good vector and they'll have to re-evaluate the Sino-Russia axis. All this is to say that democracy and the West may well look back on this as a pivotal strengthening moment." I gather that senior British figures are talking in similar terms. There is a belief that "the U.K.'s No. 1 option is for the conflict to be extended and thereby bleed Putin." Again and again, I hear such language. It helps explain, among other things, the lack of any diplomatic effort by the U.S. to secure a cease-fire. It also explains the readiness of President Joe Biden to call Putin a war criminal. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:21:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: glklvr]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Niall Ferguson, Bloomberg "The only end game now," a senior administration official was heard to say at a private event earlier this month, "is the end of Putin regime. Until then, all the time Putin stays, [Russia] will be a pariah state that will never be welcomed back into the community of nations. China has made a huge error in thinking Putin will get away with it. Seeing Russia get cut off will not look like a good vector and they'll have to re-evaluate the Sino-Russia axis. All this is to say that democracy and the West may well look back on this as a pivotal strengthening moment." I gather that senior British figures are talking in similar terms. There is a belief that "the U.K.'s No. 1 option is for the conflict to be extended and thereby bleed Putin." Again and again, I hear such language. It helps explain, among other things, the lack of any diplomatic effort by the U.S. to secure a cease-fire. It also explains the readiness of President Joe Biden to call Putin a war criminal. He's not wrong. It sucks for Ukraine, the UA and the civilian population, but the best option is to let the Russian army get ground down and Putin to feel pain for an extended period of time. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:25:00 AM EDT
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My kids went to the local hobby farm yesterday.
My photoshop (ms paint) skills could be compared to the overland navigation skills of a 16 year old Russian conscript. But I couldn't resist.  
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:27:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: Let them stay in Europe. They will be a majority Democratic voting block 
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:27:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Obo2: Are our rights endowed by our creator or granted by our government? ... .. Exactly! These are inalienable God given rights. Not something granted to you by man, borders, government. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:28:03 AM EDT
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United States sanctions over 400 Russian elites, Duma members, and defense companies in coordination with the European Union and G7; U.S. has now sanctioned over 600 targets G7 and EU announce sanctions evasion initiative to prevent circumvention and backfilling of our unprecedented sanctions; continue to blunt Central Bank of the Russian Federation's ability to deploy international reserves including gold President Biden is in Europe to continue our historic coordination with allies and partners on all aspects of our response to Russia's war against Ukraine, including imposing further severe costs on those enabling President Putin's war of choice. Today, the United States is sanctioning over 400 individuals and entities comprised of Russian elites, the Duma and more than 300 of its members, and defense companies, aligning and strengthening our sanctions in close coordination and partnership with the EU and G7. Our sanctions on Russia are unprecedented in no other circumstance have we moved so swiftly and in such a coordinated fashion to impose devastating costs on any other country. The ruble has depreciated substantially, and is expected by markets to weaken further. The Moscow Stock Exchange closed for weeks. The Central Bank of the Russian Federation has doubled interest rates to 20 percent and companies are being forced to turn over foreign exchange for rubles to provide the Russian Government hard currency. The economy is forecast to contract as much as 15 percent or more in 2022. This economic collapse of Russia's GDP will wipe out the past 15 years of economic gains in Russia, according to the Institute for International Finance. Inflation in Russia is already spiking, with analysts projecting it to rise up to 15 percent on a year-over-year basis, and the Russian Government has been downgraded to "junk" status by major credit rating agencies. More than 400 multinational companies have left Russia in a mass exodus by the private sector. As long as President Putin continues this war, the United States and allies and partners are committed to ensuring the Russian government feels the compounding effects of our current and future economic actions. Today's actions include:
48 Large Russian defense state-owned enterprises that are part of Russia's defense-industrial base and produce weapons that have been used in Russia's assault against Ukraine's people, infrastructure, and territory, including Russian Helicopters, Tactical Missiles Corporation, High Precision Systems, NPK Tekhmash OAO, Kronshtadt. We are targeting, and will continue to target, the suppliers of Russia's war effort and, in turn, their supply chain. Establishment of an initiative focused on sanctions evasions. G7 leaders and the European Union today announced an initiative to share information about and coordinate responses related to evasive measures intended to undercut the effectiveness and impact of our joint sanctions actions. Together, we will not allow sanctions evasion or backfilling. As part of this effort, we will also engage other governments on adopting sanctions similar to those already imposed by the G7 and other partners. Continuing to blunt the Central Bank's ability to deploy international reserves, including gold, to prop up the Russian economy and fund Putin's brutal war. G7 leaders and the European Union will continue to work jointly to blunt Russia's ability to deploy its international reserves to prop up Russia's economy and fund Putin's war, including by making clear that any transaction involving gold related to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is covered by existing sanctions. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:30:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shenanigunz: https://i.redd.it/bvo1slypc6p81.png That totally kicks ass. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:30:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: It is proven with the legal immigrants who have come here A 2012 study of 2,900 foreign-born, naturalized immigrants cited in the report showed that about 62 percent identified themselves as Democrats, while 25 percent identified as Republicans, and 13 percent identified as independents Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: Originally Posted By Chokey:
Let them stay in Europe. They will be a majority Democratic voting block How many Ukrainians do you know? Ukrainians are very anti communist. It is proven with the legal immigrants who have come here A 2012 study of 2,900 foreign-born, naturalized immigrants cited in the report showed that about 62 percent identified themselves as Democrats, while 25 percent identified as Republicans, and 13 percent identified as independents Our immigration system favors poor third world citizens, so it's obvious why the data you posted is true. We turn away people that are likely to be anti-communist, like Cubans. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:30:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whollyshite: Civil forfeiture is awesome. The only thing better is persecution due to crimes committed by relatives. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By outofbattery: Thread on Lavrov’s stepdaughter. She,as a person,isn’t important but 2 things are: The Brits have more than welcomed all this filthy Russian,Iranian and Arab money for decades. She has a $5 million apartment in London and a quarter of Russians still use outhouses.
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What they use on them will be used on you... Well damn, we better just let them do whatever they want then. I don't want to end up with a javelin through my car roof. A tool is a tool. No better or worse than the person/entity wielding it. You should understand this logic being on a gun forum. Don't be a spoiled brat that buys a 4 million pound mansion in a foreign country with dirty money whose daddy is waging an unjustified war, and you won't get sanctioned. Simple. If that tool is misused, then there's right to complain. But using this tool (whether guns or sanctions) against people that deserve it, is not a bad thing. A tool being used "right" is subjective. I bet if you asked a Democrat, using a military owned, national level, tier 1 spy plane to eavesdrop on a trucker protest convoy was "right." To others, that may look like a gross (and illegal) misuse of government resources to target political opponents. So your position is to not use the tool at all? Should the whole justice system be scrapped because it's misused? No jail because it's misused? No cops because they are misused? After all, the correct usage of all these tools- including drones, guns, and sanctions, are all subjective. Follow your own logic to its own conclusion, then go sit in the corner and think about what you said. I'm not seeing this akin to being jailed through the justice system. A better analogy would be more like red flag laws. Take it now and fight a government with exponentially more resources to get it back. I missed the due process listed in any of these posts. Can you point it out? Did she get a day in court? If so, and standard rules were followed, then that's fine. Maybe they did prove, in court, that she was somehow responsible for anything going on in Ukraine. Maybe she helped plan the entire invasion, and that was all vetted in a court of law. I bet they really hung on every word of a 20 year old Instagram girl for central planning. (Seeing how well they've done, it may be true. )Assuming that she didn't get a trial, and true links weren't found to Lavrov, then I'll stick by my original statement. These new resources (and similar are going on in America) can be used against you. Watch what you celebrate as a "win." She is unemployed with a 4mil mansion....you think links are questionable? Fuck her and her dad. She can go back to Russia. Sounds like UK laws were followed anyway. Civil forfeiture is awesome. The only thing better is persecution due to crimes committed by relatives. If you can't tell the difference between civil forfeiture and sanctioning a dictator who's invaded another country, then I don't know what to tell you. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:35:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:35:20 AM EDT
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This crisis may have exposed a major issue with OPEC and specifically the Saudis. They may in fact not have any reserves and are already producing as much as they can.
Which leads to this stance... OPEC, which formed an alliance with Russia in late 2016 to manage the oil market, has been intensely lobbied by western countries and major consumers to increase crude output to offset the impact of sanctions imposed for the Ukraine war.But it has insisted that the disruptions to the market are not its responsibility to mitigate, and delegates say the bloc remains disinclined to cast aside its production quotas or raise them more aggressively. OPEC is scheduled to meet with Russia and its nine other allies on March 31 to discuss May production levels. "The world can't replace Russia's exports," one source said of the group's message to the EU, which was delivered in an online meeting March 16 between Energy Commissioner Kadri Simson and OPEC Secretary General Mohammed Barkindo. Ireland and Lithuania are among the EU member states calling for a ban on Russian oil. Russia is one of the top three crude producers in the world and exports more than 7 million b/d of crude and refined products. Europe imported about 2.7 million b/d of Russian crude and another 1.5 million b/d of refined products, mostly diesel, before the invasion of Ukraine. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:36:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Another GEM !
Holy hell! That was a royal smack down. "You are a disgrace for any democracy. Please spare us your presence." |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:36:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shenanigunz: Looks like a video game. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shenanigunz: Originally Posted By Birddog1911: Shared 5 minutes ago. Is it me, or does something look off in this video?
Looks like a video game. It's 100% a video game. ARMA 3. So fake it's sad really. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:36:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By disco_jon75: Yeah, everyone cheering the confiscation/freezing of the assets of Russian oligarchs... and their children... What happened to the concept of innocent until proven guilty? Was Polina doing something illegal? She’s apart of the Moscow war machine. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:38:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NHTriumph: My kids went to the local hobby farm yesterday. My photoshop (ms paint) skills could be compared to the overland navigation skills of a 16 year old Russian conscript. But I couldn't resist. https://i.postimg.cc/505t3pbv/1648131825520-Panel-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/KzQ2jWm9/1648131810077-Panel-2.jpg 
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:39:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Niall Ferguson, Bloomberg "The only end game now," a senior administration official was heard to say at a private event earlier this month, "is the end of Putin regime. Until then, all the time Putin stays, [Russia] will be a pariah state that will never be welcomed back into the community of nations. China has made a huge error in thinking Putin will get away with it. Seeing Russia get cut off will not look like a good vector and they'll have to re-evaluate the Sino-Russia axis. All this is to say that democracy and the West may well look back on this as a pivotal strengthening moment." I gather that senior British figures are talking in similar terms. There is a belief that "the U.K.'s No. 1 option is for the conflict to be extended and thereby bleed Putin." Again and again, I hear such language. It helps explain, among other things, the lack of any diplomatic effort by the U.S. to secure a cease-fire. It also explains the readiness of President Joe Biden to call Putin a war criminal. This confirms my earlier thoughts that the US and NATO are slow rolling arms to UKR to drag this out. It's a shitty thing to do to UKR. Call me cynical but these elites don't care about the misery and figure they'll some how profit on the back side when UKR rebuilding finally happens. They're also so scared of Putin that they're banking a slow boil of Putin and Russia will not result in Russia escalating to Nukes or chem/bio attacks. That's a dangerous gamble..... |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:40:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: From another video, it certainly looked like ammo cooking off. elcope's video seems to indicate an artillery barrage lol. Did these ships get hit by Ukrainian artillery? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By FrankyRay: Originally Posted By elcope: Another video of the ships in Berdyansk with other Russian ships fleeing.
Sounds like a lot of explosions there. Ammo cooking off? From another video, it certainly looked like ammo cooking off. elcope's video seems to indicate an artillery barrage lol. Did these ships get hit by Ukrainian artillery? I'm guessing their plans for a landing at Odessa have been put on hold. 
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:40:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankyRay: In other news:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOmRIsxXIAAbNcV?format=jpg&name=large NK is just ate up with dumbass for doing that right now. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:41:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bounce19712: neato! I wonder how many advising advisors there are over there. advising on how to blow ships up. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:41:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: Let them stay in Europe. They will be a majority Democratic voting block  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:44:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whollyshite: Civil forfeiture is awesome. The only thing better is persecution due to crimes committed by relatives. Are you saying that the wife and children of mob bosses should be able to keep all of the crime money that the mob boss stole? How did that unemployed whore pay 4.4 million cash for her luxury apartment that you insist that she should be able to keep? Or should that money go to the Ukrainians being slaughtered by her father? |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:45:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run: This confirms my earlier thoughts that the US and NATO are slow rolling arms to UKR to drag this out. It's a shitty thing to do to UKR. Call me cynical but these elites don't care about the misery and figure they'll some how profit on the back side when UKR rebuilding finally happens. They're also so scared of Putin that they're banking a slow boil of Putin and Russia will not result in Russia escalating to Nukes or chem/bio attacks. That's a dangerous gamble..... |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:45:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr: He's not wrong. It sucks for Ukraine, the UA and the civilian population, but the best option is to let the Russian army get ground down and Putin to feel pain for an extended period of time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr: Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Niall Ferguson, Bloomberg "The only end game now," a senior administration official was heard to say at a private event earlier this month, "is the end of Putin regime. Until then, all the time Putin stays, [Russia] will be a pariah state that will never be welcomed back into the community of nations. China has made a huge error in thinking Putin will get away with it. Seeing Russia get cut off will not look like a good vector and they'll have to re-evaluate the Sino-Russia axis. All this is to say that democracy and the West may well look back on this as a pivotal strengthening moment." I gather that senior British figures are talking in similar terms. There is a belief that "the U.K.'s No. 1 option is for the conflict to be extended and thereby bleed Putin." Again and again, I hear such language. It helps explain, among other things, the lack of any diplomatic effort by the U.S. to secure a cease-fire. It also explains the readiness of President Joe Biden to call Putin a war criminal. He's not wrong. It sucks for Ukraine, the UA and the civilian population, but the best option is to let the Russian army get ground down and Putin to feel pain for an extended period of time. What makes you think a slow boil will keep him from escalating? I'm of the mindset that make it quick decisive and putin wakes up one morning with his army crushed and makarov pressed to the back of his head. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:46:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whollyshite: What they use on them will be used on you... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By outofbattery: Thread on Lavrov’s stepdaughter. She,as a person,isn’t important but 2 things are: The Brits have more than welcomed all this filthy Russian,Iranian and Arab money for decades. She has a $5 million apartment in London and a quarter of Russians still use outhouses.
sanctioned.
What they use on them will be used on you... I get what you're saying... However, in this case it's well deserved. FVP FSL and their entire families (official or not) |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:46:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: This is crucial, the West is actually doing the right thing from the start, no appeasement. Managing the escalation is the name of the game and so far EU/NATO is doing a great job. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Niall Ferguson, Bloomberg "The only end game now," a senior administration official was heard to say at a private event earlier this month, "is the end of Putin regime. Until then, all the time Putin stays, [Russia] will be a pariah state that will never be welcomed back into the community of nations. China has made a huge error in thinking Putin will get away with it. Seeing Russia get cut off will not look like a good vector and they'll have to re-evaluate the Sino-Russia axis. All this is to say that democracy and the West may well look back on this as a pivotal strengthening moment." I gather that senior British figures are talking in similar terms. There is a belief that "the U.K.'s No. 1 option is for the conflict to be extended and thereby bleed Putin." Again and again, I hear such language. It helps explain, among other things, the lack of any diplomatic effort by the U.S. to secure a cease-fire. It also explains the readiness of President Joe Biden to call Putin a war criminal. If you actually read the article, the author is arguing that this line of thinking is mistaken. |
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Posted: 3/24/2022 10:49:18 AM EDT
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 ???? ????? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ??? ????? ? ??????????. ?????????? ?? ??? ???????. Hit on the second ship? When I watched the original, I wasn't sure. Blown up a little and it sure looks like it. |
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