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Posted: 6/20/2022 3:44:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hking: No payload  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hking: Originally Posted By Dracster: "The remnants of the American kamikaze UAV Switchblade 300 at the positions of the NM DNR servicemen. According to the military, the APU has either not yet learned to use them, or something is wrong - both kamikaze drones flew into the fields near the trenches without harming anyone. Also, these UAVs are perfectly audible, which gives time to go into hiding." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-20_14-12-00_jpg-2424954.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-20_14-11-46_jpg-2424955.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-20_14-11-33_jpg-2424956.JPG No payload They do make some noise but are fairly fast |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 3:47:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: "Instructors from another American private company were seen training Ukrainian military personnel - Dynamic Acquisitions. The following instructors are listed on the DA website: "Ian" is an active SWAT officer; "Jack" - a former sniper in one of the infantry units of the US Army, business trips to Afghanistan, some time working as a "person" of high-ranking officials (in PMCs, or in the army PSD); "Storm" - former US Army artilleryman, then service as a member of SWAT. The training is carried out mainly by the Ukrainian battalion "Stugna". DA has been on the territory of Ukraine since mid-April." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-20_03-28-34_jpg-2424957.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-20_03-28-35__2__jpg-2424958.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-20_03-28-35_jpg-2424959.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-20_03-28-36__2__jpg-2424960.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-20_03-28-36_jpg-2424961.JPG |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 3:54:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Remember that helo shootdown crash from the other day? Putin loses 55th colonel in Ukraine when his attack helicopter is hit by surface-to-air missile and crash lands into field https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/20/20/59309325-0-image-m-15_1655751857985.jpg Dramatic footage shows the moment a Russian colonel crashes in his helicopter after being hit with a Ukrainian missile. Lt-Col Sergey Gundorov, 51, was struck near Volnovakha in the Donbas. The military helicopter flew on after being hit with a portable surface-to-air missile. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/20/19/59307131-10935481-The_high_ranking_pilot_had_previously_won_three_orders_of_courag-m-37_1655749536225.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/20/19/59307137-10935481-image-a-20_1655749074412.jpg Gundorov is pictured with his two sons https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/20/19/59307145-10935481-Dramatic_footage_shows_the_military_helicopter_crash_land_before-a-40_1655750185338.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/20/19/59307149-10935481-The_Russian_attack_helicopter_is_said_to_have_completed_a_missio-a-41_1655750185341.jpg More Welcome to Ukraine tovaritch. Your seat is in the meat cooler over here with the others. The embalming fluid is complimentary. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 3:59:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: It would be sad, actually. It would look like the Battle of the Philippine Sea where the US pilots actually got sick of the killing, it was so lopsided. I've actually interviewed a few of them, it was no joke.* The Russian navy exists as a "blue water" navy only because the US and Nato allows it. It would cease to exist as a blue water navy within four or five days if push came to shove. It would also never exist as a "fleet in being" as a strategic threat. The Russian navy is, very much like the German Imperial navy of 1914, a "luxury fleet" - it exists for the flexing of muscle on the world stage in peace time, but is worth nothing in conflict. I've personally resigned more naval commissions (2) than Russia has a snowball's chance in hell on the open sea (0). * Ronald Gift is in the famous photo below, I got to interview him once and it was a treat. They got some "medicinal whiskey" after the fight. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/556465/1436125522816_jpg-2424525.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By FDC: That would get "interesting" with the Russian navy there. It would be sad, actually. It would look like the Battle of the Philippine Sea where the US pilots actually got sick of the killing, it was so lopsided. I've actually interviewed a few of them, it was no joke.* The Russian navy exists as a "blue water" navy only because the US and Nato allows it. It would cease to exist as a blue water navy within four or five days if push came to shove. It would also never exist as a "fleet in being" as a strategic threat. The Russian navy is, very much like the German Imperial navy of 1914, a "luxury fleet" - it exists for the flexing of muscle on the world stage in peace time, but is worth nothing in conflict. I've personally resigned more naval commissions (2) than Russia has a snowball's chance in hell on the open sea (0). * Ronald Gift is in the famous photo below, I got to interview him once and it was a treat. They got some "medicinal whiskey" after the fight. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/556465/1436125522816_jpg-2424525.JPG There doesn’t appear to be much in Kaliningrad wrt orc navy vessels. Based on the latest pictures on google earth. At least not combat one. Looked like one destroyer or frigate, and one hull of similar sized ship that looked like it was being disassembled I didn’t pick on any little missile boats |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 4:05:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/20/2022 4:19:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/20/2022 4:48:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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UA antitank mine.
Azot is the last holdout in Severodonetsk
Arestovych says all 6 Russian cruise missile carriers are lined up in the Black Sea and are "likely to prepare for a massive missile launch" |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 5:07:16 PM EDT
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"Russian Ambassador banned from entering Britain's parliamentary buildings until "further notice" Sky News
This is stated in an official letter from the Speakers of the House of Commons and the House of Lords. It is noted that the ban, which also applies to all other accredited Russian diplomats and officials in the UK, has already been in place unofficially since Russia's invasion of Ukraine in February. However, it it only now that it has been confirmed in writing for the first time. The letter noted that Andrey Kelin, as an officially accredited representative of the Russian government, will not be allowed to enter parliament until a special order is issued." |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 5:08:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: Look for a big badaboom in the future. "Ladies and gentlemen, we need to work, the Russians have set up an ammunition depot on the territory of the former ExpoDonbass exhibition center Coordinates 48.0252143643447, 37.80732932703939" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-17_07-39-41_jpg-2424972.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-17_07-39-41__2__jpg-2424973.JPG I think that's already been taken care of recently, to dramatic effect.  |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 5:09:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: UA antitank mine.
Azot is the last holdout in Severodonetsk
Arestovych says all 6 Russian cruise missile carriers are lined up in the Black Sea and are "likely to prepare for a massive missile launch" "In Sievierodonetsk, the Armed Forces of Ukraine control the territory of the Azot plant, and fighting continues in the industrial zone of the city - the Head of the Luhansk Regional Military Administration Serhii Haidai Haidai noted that the Ukrainian military are not surrounded. And the Russian troops have accumulated sufficient reserves and "are launching a large-scale offensive in the region." During the day, the entire free territory of the Luhansk region is under fire." |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 5:13:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDamn shame.  This is what commitment, bravery, and sacrifice looks like. Another warrior has arrived in Valhalla.
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Posted: 6/20/2022 5:18:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: There doesn’t appear to be much in Kaliningrad wrt orc navy vessels. Based on the latest pictures on google earth. At least not combat one. Looked like one destroyer or frigate, and one hull of similar sized ship that looked like it was being disassembled I didn’t pick on any little missile boats Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: There doesn’t appear to be much in Kaliningrad wrt orc navy vessels. Based on the latest pictures on google earth. At least not combat one. Looked like one destroyer or frigate, and one hull of similar sized ship that looked like it was being disassembled I didn’t pick on any little missile boats I think they split the Baltic Fleet between K-grad and Kronstadt near St. Petersburg, with HQ actually in K-grad. The Baltic fleet's not huge IIRC, all the good stuff is in the Northern Fleet (Europe-wise). Originally Posted By Chaingun: Front end is missing ... Are you saying the front fell off?  Clarke and Dawe - The Front Fell Off |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 5:20:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: UA antitank mine.
Azot is the last holdout in Severodonetsk
Arestovych says all 6 Russian cruise missile carriers are lined up in the Black Sea and are "likely to prepare for a massive missile launch" |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 5:27:57 PM EDT
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 More at the link on Twitter. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 5:28:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jack67]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By absael: There has to be some way to take out a few of those ships. I'd be buying about-to-be-scrapped fishing trawlers and bolting missile boxes to the deck. Then remotely sailing them in to Russian harbors everywhere from Murmansk to Vladivostock. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 5:34:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVuQOINXsAAXCuV?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVuQPEZWQAAp7Pj?format=jpg&name=large More at the link on Twitter. Nafo?? |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 5:37:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dracster]
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The useful idiot is back. This time standing in a crater "created...by a...HIMARS rocket system".
https://t.me/UkrWarRep/5637 |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 5:41:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Remember that helo shootdown crash from the other day? Putin loses 55th colonel in Ukraine when his attack helicopter is hit by surface-to-air missile and crash lands into field https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/20/20/59309325-0-image-m-15_1655751857985.jpg Dramatic footage shows the moment a Russian colonel crashes in his helicopter after being hit with a Ukrainian missile. Lt-Col Sergey Gundorov, 51, was struck near Volnovakha in the Donbas. The military helicopter flew on after being hit with a portable surface-to-air missile. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/20/19/59307131-10935481-The_high_ranking_pilot_had_previously_won_three_orders_of_courag-m-37_1655749536225.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/20/19/59307137-10935481-image-a-20_1655749074412.jpg Gundorov is pictured with his two sons https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/20/19/59307145-10935481-Dramatic_footage_shows_the_military_helicopter_crash_land_before-a-40_1655750185338.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/20/19/59307149-10935481-The_Russian_attack_helicopter_is_said_to_have_completed_a_missio-a-41_1655750185341.jpg More Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Remember that helo shootdown crash from the other day? Putin loses 55th colonel in Ukraine when his attack helicopter is hit by surface-to-air missile and crash lands into field https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/20/20/59309325-0-image-m-15_1655751857985.jpg Dramatic footage shows the moment a Russian colonel crashes in his helicopter after being hit with a Ukrainian missile. Lt-Col Sergey Gundorov, 51, was struck near Volnovakha in the Donbas. The military helicopter flew on after being hit with a portable surface-to-air missile. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/20/19/59307131-10935481-The_high_ranking_pilot_had_previously_won_three_orders_of_courag-m-37_1655749536225.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/20/19/59307137-10935481-image-a-20_1655749074412.jpg Gundorov is pictured with his two sons https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/20/19/59307145-10935481-Dramatic_footage_shows_the_military_helicopter_crash_land_before-a-40_1655750185338.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/20/19/59307149-10935481-The_Russian_attack_helicopter_is_said_to_have_completed_a_missio-a-41_1655750185341.jpg More The military helicopter flew on after being hit with a portable surface-to-air missile. Lol. I guess that's one way to describe a purely ballistic trajectory that intersects with the ground. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 5:42:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: The useful idiot is back. This time standing in a crater "created...by a...HIMARS rocket system". https://t.me/UkrWarRep/5637 M30/31s have a 200lbs class warhead, strange crater for that sized round. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 5:42:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: I'd be buying about-to-be-scrapped fishing trawlers and bolting missile boxes to the deck. Then remotely sailing them in to Russian harbors everywhere from Murmansk to Vladivostock. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By absael: There has to be some way to take out a few of those ships. I'd be buying about-to-be-scrapped fishing trawlers and bolting missile boxes to the deck. Then remotely sailing them in to Russian harbors everywhere from Murmansk to Vladivostock. Exactly this. Harpoon launchers hidden in shipping containers is a second option. 
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Posted: 6/20/2022 5:47:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Damn shame. This is what commitment, bravery, and sacrifice looks like. Another warrior has arrived in Valhalla.I'm sorry he was killed. But seriously! |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 5:47:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: M30/31s have a 200lbs class warhead, strange crater for that sized round. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: Originally Posted By Dracster: The useful idiot is back. This time standing in a crater "created...by a...HIMARS rocket system". https://t.me/UkrWarRep/5637 M30/31s have a 200lbs class warhead, strange crater for that sized round. They obviously strapped on extra explosives since they are targeting nothing but apartments and civilians. It probably looked like an Indian bus flying through the air. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 6:32:27 PM EDT
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DAILY REMINDER: RUSSIA IS A SHIT HOLE GAS STATION, RUN BY THE MAFIA, MASQUERADING AS A COUNTRY, WITH A HISTORY OF GENOCIDE AS LONG AS YOUR ARM!
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1538856994869850114.html |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 7:13:12 PM EDT
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ISW assessment for June 20th.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-20 |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 7:18:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: UA antitank mine.
Azot is the last holdout in Severodonetsk
Arestovych says all 6 Russian cruise missile carriers are lined up in the Black Sea and are "likely to prepare for a massive missile launch" It would be awesome if Ukraine had something with more reach than Russia expects and could sink one or two more of their fucking ships. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 7:20:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/20/2022 7:37:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: It would be awesome if Ukraine had something with more reach than Russia expects and could sink one or two more of their fucking ships. Reportedly, Estonia is transferring their Blue Spear missile system to Ukraine (got permission to do so from Israel). 295km range ASM also taskable to valuable stationary ground targets. That can *just* about hit Sevastopol from west of Kherson, right now. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 7:55:58 PM EDT
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Russia is really making itself a lot more enemies.
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Posted: 6/20/2022 8:22:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AgeOne: Russia is really making itself a lot more enemies.
Russia forcing itself into a multi front war when it can't find traction in a single front war will be quite amusing. You know, barring nuclear war and stuff. But them kicking themselves thoroughly in the balls will not cease to amuse me. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 8:25:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoBrau: Russia forcing itself into a multi front war when it can't find traction in a single front war will be quite amusing. You know, barring nuclear war and stuff. But them kicking themselves thoroughly in the balls will not cease to amuse me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoBrau: Originally Posted By AgeOne: Russia is really making itself a lot more enemies.
Russia forcing itself into a multi front war when it can't find traction in a single front war will be quite amusing. You know, barring nuclear war and stuff. But them kicking themselves thoroughly in the balls will not cease to amuse me. That is probably what is going to get to big stuff going. It is the season. You know how desperate people act, illogical. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 8:39:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 302w: Are those Rooskie regulars? I imagine not, with their hodge podge uniforms. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 302w: Originally Posted By Prime: Surrendering Russians
Are those Rooskie regulars? I imagine not, with their hodge podge uniforms. 
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Posted: 6/20/2022 9:04:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits:[/b] Reportedly, Estonia is transferring their Blue Spear missile system to Ukraine (got permission to do so from Israel). 295km range ASM also taskable to valuable stationary ground targets. That can *just* about hit Sevastopol from west of Kherson, right now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits:[/b] Reportedly, Estonia is transferring their Blue Spear missile system to Ukraine (got permission to do so from Israel). 295km range ASM also taskable to valuable stationary ground targets. That can *just* about hit Sevastopol from west of Kherson, right now. During the Yom Kippur War (1973) the Gabriel I was used for the first time during the Battle of Latakia. Israeli missile boats armed with Gabriel Mk 1 missiles were credited with defeating Syrian ships armed with the Soviet-made P-15 Termit (SS-N-2 Styx) missile. Even though the Styx missile had a longer range, the Gabriel's reliability and flexibility of handling contributed to the Israeli victory. It is known that the Syrians shot missile salvos at the charging Israeli vessels, but missed due to the Israeli ECM technology of the time. When they were in range, the Israeli boats launched their Gabriel missiles, and sank all but one Syrian Osa class ship, which was later sunk by cannon fire. After defeating the Syrian Navy (surviving Syrian ships stayed in port) the Israeli missile boats defeated the Egyptian navy as well, achieving naval supremacy for the remainder of the war. The tactics used are an interesting read. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 9:32:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/20/2022 9:36:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
Wagner should be declared a terrorist group for their participation in operations in Ukraine. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 9:54:32 PM EDT
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New footage from the feint towards Kyiv
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Posted: 6/20/2022 9:54:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: That is probably what is going to get to big stuff going. It is the season. You know how desperate people act, illogical. Yep. I think it won't be precisely Ukraine that trips things to the next level - but something like this, Königsberg, Transnistria, etc. Apparently Putin was trash-talking to the Kazakh president in St. Petersburg a few days ago, saying they might have to take it over, too, since it's "historical Russia" (because it was part of the Soviet Union). He also apparently had trouble pronouncing the kazakh president's name, which is weird. Also I just read Putin sent paratroopers to stomp Kazakh protestors, killing hundreds, this past January. So he figured Tokayev owed him an endorsement on invading Ukraine and seizing Donetsk and Luhansk, but he won't do it and thinks the war is wrong. OTOH, he's no democrat and is ex-soviet, has looted money in offshore accounts, etc. So I don't think this- Kazakhstan - is going to get fratricidal. But if civil unrest breaks out again, who knows what could happen? 2/3min read on Kazakhstan v Russia. Borat is not mentioned, unfortunately. https://eurasianet.org/kazakhstan-russia-frictions-over-ukraine-war-go-public |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 10:00:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AgeOne: Russia is really making itself a lot more enemies.
China is going to exploit this |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 10:01:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryGuys were wearing OD cammies and random color boots. I would expect Russian regulars (as opposed to LPR/DPR proxy forces) to at least have matching camo uniforms. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 10:52:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoBrau: Russia forcing itself into a multi front war when it can't find traction in a single front war will be quite amusing. You know, barring nuclear war and stuff. But them kicking themselves thoroughly in the balls will not cease to amuse me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoBrau: Originally Posted By AgeOne: Russia is really making itself a lot more enemies.
Russia forcing itself into a multi front war when it can't find traction in a single front war will be quite amusing. You know, barring nuclear war and stuff. But them kicking themselves thoroughly in the balls will not cease to amuse me. Wow, hadn’t heard that. I mean, I already knew Russia was cutting off their own nose to spite their face, but buying trouble with CIS states? You can tell that Russia is run at the whim of one incompetent megalomaniac. Putin is pissed off because the Kazakh president refused to recognize the DPR/LPR while standing on the same stage as Putin. This sort of foolish behavior makes them look weak. As they begin to look weak, more of the countries they’ve fucked in the last 100 years are going to start testing them. The sharks are circling. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 10:55:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVuQOINXsAAXCuV?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVuQPEZWQAAp7Pj?format=jpg&name=large More at the link on Twitter.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 11:07:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: China is going to exploit this Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By AgeOne: Russia is really making itself a lot more enemies.
China is going to exploit this They’ll try, and I think that is understood by all parties. The endgame we’re looking at is that Russia gets crushed and dismembered. Qui bono? Who benefits? There’s a lot of territory and resources to go around. Perhaps there can be a mutually beneficial understanding between the west and China. Yes, ideally China wanted to use Russia as a meat shield against the west. That idea is going away due to Putin’s stupidity, so China should re-evaluate where their interests lie and how they can most benefit from the current situation. In short, there is probably more long-term benefit to getting their piece of Russia than there is to fixate on a small island with no resources. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 11:11:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Damn shame. This is what commitment, bravery, and sacrifice looks like. Another warrior has arrived in Valhalla.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Damn shame. This is what commitment, bravery, and sacrifice looks like. Another warrior has arrived in Valhalla.Damn. 52 years old. That patriot had balls. My hat off to him! |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 11:17:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MouseBoy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoBrau: Russia forcing itself into a multi front war when it can't find traction in a single front war will be quite amusing. You know, barring nuclear war and stuff. But them kicking themselves thoroughly in the balls will not cease to amuse me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoBrau: Originally Posted By AgeOne: Russia is really making itself a lot more enemies.
Russia forcing itself into a multi front war when it can't find traction in a single front war will be quite amusing. You know, barring nuclear war and stuff. But them kicking themselves thoroughly in the balls will not cease to amuse me. China will take the eastern 1/2 of the Russian "scraps". They need the resources. Putin picked up the soap, but doesn't know it yet. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 11:47:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MouseBoy: Damn. 52 years old. That patriot had balls. My hat off to him! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MouseBoy: Originally Posted By stone-age: Damn shame. This is what commitment, bravery, and sacrifice looks like. Another warrior has arrived in Valhalla.Damn. 52 years old. That patriot had balls. My hat off to him! no doubt, I hope he got to send a ton of russkies to hell before he went |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 12:14:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/21/2022 12:17:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
And this is why I laugh at anyone claiming any sort of Russian success. 
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Posted: 6/21/2022 12:18:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: ... In short, there is probably more long-term benefit to getting their piece of Russia than there is to fixate on a small island with no resources. It just depends upon how this ends, but I don't think there is a strong chance of that. Some scenarios: 1) Putin deposed/recycled, new czar makes peace/withdraws. - In this scenario, nothing really changes. The country is going to stay the imperial nuclear fiefdom it is and no one will mess with it. Russia will keep the same toxic authoritarianism and stay a real threat to neighbors and global stability. 2) Soft or "color" revolution and replacement of entire regime and authoritarian kelptocracy with more liberal gov't - This fits your scenario as republics/states may break off. I think the far east would stay with Russia because a) it is administratively IS "Russia" and b) it is ethnically/culturally dominantly Russian. So China still has most of it's border with Russia unchanged - still Russia. - The likely break-away places of any merit are in the Caucasus so no way to grab them. Most are dominantly muslim/turkic and likely to be hostile to China in principle because of their genocide against the Uighurs. 3) Russian win of some type. - No opportunity in this scenario. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 12:27:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: Wagner should be declared a terrorist group for their participation in operations in Ukraine. That would be valid, and open some new avenues for action. This needs to happen. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 12:33:48 AM EDT
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When will Japan unilaterally declare a final settlement of the Kuril Islands issue and execute the solution?
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