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Posted: 8/16/2023 4:34:20 PM EDT
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(I think snippets of this was posted previously. Pucker up at 8:40)
Mine detonation, regrouping and direct fire contact - ASSAULT part 1  ?????? ?? ????, ?????????????? ? ?????? ???????? ??????? | ????? ?.1 |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 4:36:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stanprophet09: were these the ones from a couple of weeks ago or did they hit it again? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stanprophet09: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: It was well planned.
were these the ones from a couple of weeks ago or did they hit it again? I think these were the big July 17th attacks that messed up the roadway. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 4:37:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/16/2023 4:40:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3rRtKKWUAA5W8Z?format=jpg&name=small
Sweet. 
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Posted: 8/16/2023 4:42:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/16/2023 4:43:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2023 4:59:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/16/2023 5:16:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jaehaerys]
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2023 5:27:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Speaking of Czech https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/390973/a7qG602_700b-2919988.png Russia -- the only country ever to lose a naval battle to Czechoslovakia. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 5:28:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDat Tungsten do |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2023 5:37:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Was that forced conscription of those immigrants? In the American Civil war, immigrants were subject to the draft when they applied for citizenship (as I recall / understand). |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 5:39:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: Russian Casevac group hit by a Ukrainian FPV Kamikaze drone. Reupload Twitter version.
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Posted: 8/16/2023 5:54:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1691928828254257484 .Kozachi Laheri / Cossack Camp UPD‼️ According to Russian sources, there are not enough resources to counter attack the Ukrainian bridge head. Russians are just trying to contain it due to the lack of troops. Not enough artillery, no surprise here. Ukrainians have been successful at targeting ammo depot in Oleshky and in nearby settlements.  
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Posted: 8/16/2023 5:56:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Man, there is no reason the Ukrainians couldn't strap on a Harpoon missile in a container on that and hunt Russian warships. Then drive in and finish the job.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Prime: The SBU used a new experimental Sea Baby sea drone to attack the Crimean Bridge in July 2023, CNN.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3oIkiYW0AAovuD?format=jpg&name=small
Man, there is no reason the Ukrainians couldn't strap on a Harpoon missile in a container on that and hunt Russian warships. Then drive in and finish the job. Maybe we should give Ukraine some Mk60 CAPTORs instead. USVs try to push in on the Black Sea navy's anchorage, but drop CAPTORs a few miles before their targets. CAPTORs then get a shot at the ships (and the Kilos) the next time they leave or enter port. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 5:57:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XeroSygnal: Maybe we should give Ukraine some Mk60 CAPTORs instead. USVs try to push in on the Black Sea navy's anchorage, but drop CAPTORs a few miles before their targets. CAPTORs then get a shot at the ships (and the Kilos) the next time they leave or enter port. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XeroSygnal: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Prime: The SBU used a new experimental Sea Baby sea drone to attack the Crimean Bridge in July 2023, CNN.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3oIkiYW0AAovuD?format=jpg&name=small
Man, there is no reason the Ukrainians couldn't strap on a Harpoon missile in a container on that and hunt Russian warships. Then drive in and finish the job. Maybe we should give Ukraine some Mk60 CAPTORs instead. USVs try to push in on the Black Sea navy's anchorage, but drop CAPTORs a few miles before their targets. CAPTORs then get a shot at the ships (and the Kilos) the next time they leave or enter port. I like the way you think. 
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Posted: 8/16/2023 5:59:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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State Duma deputy urged to increase the salaries of state employees by 10-15% due to rising prices, said Nikolai Arefyev, deputy chairman of the State Duma Committee on Economic Policy. “At the moment, the price of imported products has almost doubled compared to last year. Naturally, since prices rise, then salaries should increase from September 1, somewhere by 10-15%, depending on the calculation, ”Arefiev said. Svetlana Bessarab, a member of the State Duma Committee on Economic Policy, Social Policy and Veterans Affairs, said “I want to remind you that the minimum wage will increase by 18.5% on behalf of the president. Let’s recap on other indicators: 👉 2023 Budget deficit = 2.3trillion roubles - current actual deficit for first 7 months = 2.82 trillion Rubles ($28.2 billion). 👉July 2023 saw the deficit grow by 222 billion Rubles.. 👉Capital outflows since Feb 2022 = $260 Billion 👉 State revenues down 50% in 2023 👉Oil and Gas revenues down 41.4% in 2023 👉 Interest Rate up to 12% from 8.5% in July, and 7.5% in June 👉Interbank rate 9.34% 👉Military expenditure in Jan-Feb 2023 = 2 billion Rubles 👉 Ruble value against the USD down 39% in 2023, similar declines agains the Yuan, Rupee and Euro. 👉Sovereign Wealth Fund down 60% YOY, now being depleted further by propping up the Ruble. 👉Property rentals up 18-30% 👉New car prices up 18-35% 👉Holiday air travel up 25-75% 👇 👇 👇 👇 👇 👇 👇 👇 👇 👇 👇 👇 👇 👇 👇 🤣But the “official” inflation rate published by the FSB managed Central bank is “4.4%”🤣
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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:07:07 PM EDT
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As a radio nerd, I want one of those Azart's....
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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:08:47 PM EDT
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People ask me why I support Igor Strelkov, because on many issues we do not see eye to eye.
First, I know him personally. And I have no doubts about his honesty and decency. He lives modestly, rides the subway, is not prone to luxury and excesses. Secondly, he is an unconditional patriot who repeatedly risked his life, and this sincerity is recognized even by enemies. He has no interests in the West. He sees his future and his loved ones only in Russia. Thirdly, he is not a hypocrite. He has a complex character and sometimes he is too straightforward, but he is not noticed in political conformism. Fourthly, he is not a talker, but a man of action, besides he is very brave, which he proves with his life. Fifth, he has a heightened sense of justice and a clear rejection of the current socio-political course. He does not accept social injustice in our country and is ready to unite with leftist patriots to achieve a change of course. And finally, if we do not support Strelkov now, then tomorrow they can come for any of us. https://t.me/georgy_fedorov/2001 Free Strelkov! Nizhny Novgorod National Bolsheviks held a rally in support of Igor Strelkov. Limonov's party activists hung a banner "Freedom to Strelkov" from the tower of the Nizhny Novgorod Kremlin and scattered leaflets demanding the immediate release of Igor Ivanovich! National Bolsheviks of the Lower https://t.me/i_strelkov_2023/84 |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:12:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: It’s a great idea, but anything taller than those water drones can be picked up by surface radar and harpoons are large missles. I’m not sure they could make a craft to hold one and stay stealthy Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Prime: The SBU used a new experimental Sea Baby sea drone to attack the Crimean Bridge in July 2023, CNN.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3oIkiYW0AAovuD?format=jpg&name=small
Man, there is no reason the Ukrainians couldn't strap on a Harpoon missile in a container on that and hunt Russian warships. Then drive in and finish the job. It’s a great idea, but anything taller than those water drones can be picked up by surface radar and harpoons are large missles. I’m not sure they could make a craft to hold one and stay stealthy need some sort of pop-up launcher tube. get within range, pop up the launcher, fire. then discard or lower the launcher and full throttle ahead. They need to put ACME stickers and pictures of Willie Coyote, genius on them as well. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:14:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillyDBerger: Sounds like tyranny of the majority Too bad. Freedom of speech doesn't apply here. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:17:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: I'm not so sure. Trump called Putin's move "genius" on day one. I could almost envision Trump saying to his "friend" Putin "you take the Eastern half and we'll take the rest". Patton also called Rommel genius for his actions. You can be an evil genius. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:22:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:22:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyC: As a radio nerd, I want one of those Azart's.... Me too.
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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:24:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: The US military was going to defend itself there. It did not matter who was president. Some of ya'll visceral hatred for Trump is messing with your logic. Next we will hear how the Afghanistan fiasco would have been the same even if Trump was POTUS. Reagan was the same as Carter, Bush the same as Clinton, FBHO was the same as Trump, "sleepy joe is just doing what Trump would have done, except when it's stupid...then it still Trump's fault" ..."all POTUS are the same... 
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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:25:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: I remember Aug 24 being hinted at weeks ago. And the warning to ships starts Aug 24.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_3054-2921842.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: I remember Aug 24 being hinted at weeks ago. And the warning to ships starts Aug 24.
🚀 🚀 𝗙𝗟𝗔𝗦𝗛 𝗡𝗘𝗪𝗦 🤫𝑏𝘺𝑒-𝑏𝘺𝑒 𝑂𝘗𝑆𝘌𝐶 Hold onto your hats, world! 🎩✨ Set your clocks for August 24th! Ukraine’s elite ops are pulling the curtain on a spectacle #Russia will not forget. Ukraine isn’t about playing coy – we are flexing, and we want everyone to see. 🛸 Remember those drones from the #CrimeanBridge saga? Yep, they’re #Ukraine-made and they’re just the tip of the iceberg. Yep, that was just the opening act. 🎭 Iconic cities like #Moscow, #StPetersburg, and even #Sochi better keep their eyes peeled. But what’s this grand act about? 🤐 Top secrets and tight lips. All we know? Expect the unexpected. And here’s the kicker: as the world embraces the #drone-era warfare, Ukraine is all geared to show it’s not just in the race but leading the pack. Proving our tech’s might isn’t just for show – it’s a challenge to the world stage. Strap in, world. The show’s about to begin! 🌌 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_3054-2921842.jpg That's some major league trolling! Praying for a successful operation 
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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:25:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:29:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Twitter version.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Russian Casevac group hit by a Ukrainian FPV Kamikaze drone. Reupload Twitter version.
I feel this is teetering on the edge but then again it's the Russians. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:32:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Damn that was a bit nuts Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:32:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Part 1.
In the break between droppers and other procedures, there is an opportunity to shed light on a very important topic. I will sum it up for a long time and carefully, so that later I can write only a couple of sentences, but whoever is interested will finish reading. For starters, our present. Very often, completely opposite information comes from our sources about the same positions of ours: either they lost it, or they held it, or they recaptured it, etc. Harvest, Cossack Lopani - here are just the most recent examples. And if the whole trouble was only confusion, then it would be possible to pass by, but ... Top management (vysruki, it means the same as vysnachi - top management) sees the task simply: "So, hold these positions, but these must be captured." There are swarming around the vysrukov those who always and everything take a cap (podkotka), solving only two tasks: to translate any real results into their victorious report and to find that adversary in their own ranks, on whom uncomfortable moments can be hung. But with the lowest in position, the podkoz itself becomes vysruk - the hierarchy of power. Vysruk always loves podkozka, everything goes well with them. In general, under ideal conditions, you can generally soar any misinformation, draw (or steal) cartoons, change the voice acting from Amer's vidos in Afghanistan to ours, Russian. With a certain amount of talent and promptness, it is even possible to show the firing of such modern missiles that even we ourselves cannot detect a launch, a flight, or an arrival during exercises. There is nothing, as it were, but this is nothing and becomes proof of our power. As long as the country is not at war, then all this rolls. The computer dutifully gives out layouts in which our army wins everyone, new body kits for machine guns shoot down enemy satellites, etc. Competitors for the place of the podkoz are silent or sit, because their speculation ("this podkoz is lying, everything is wrong!") is slander and intrigues of enemies. But sometimes you all believe in it so much that they try to create a reality for all these reports. You there, guys, drive a battalion or two to Grozny, while the country is still New Year's idleness. For the holidays sort it out there, go ahead. Yeah. Well, or take more rubber truncheons and a vase of flowers, rush to Kyiv to organize a parade there and disperse those who disagree. And here the discrepancy between the earth and the sky, reports and practice begins. The soldiers' arms and legs are torn off, the guts of the fighters are smoking on the ruins and across the fields, but it's not easy for the outcasts, they are also upset. And here the competitors for the place of the horse-drawn carriage begin the struggle, and the soldiers at the front are ungrateful people: instead of dying heroically and silently, they begin to spread negative information (and fear has big eyes). And the enemy does not doze off, throws from himself. In general, it becomes incomprehensible and difficult to understand what exactly is happening. But with us, a superior cannot make mistakes and cannot be guilty. And simple understandable commands go down the chain: “What kind of enemy has landed in Lopani? Deal with him, drive him out! Run to decide!" And yes - there are a thousand reasons for the local surrender of positions, but very often the scout decides simply: take some special forces company and run back to the positions, do not anger even more scouts! This is where theory ends and hell begins. In order "so as not to sadden out of hand" we will drive the special forces / intelligence / airborne forces to the enemy without preludes, when even a symbolic result (half a farm was returned) results in thoughtless losses of the most valuable specialists, then the rear column will run into the positions of the enemy (who was not brought official information that it should not be there), then they will mine where we ourselves go. And the tricks along the chain will immediately report to the bosses that "everything has been decided, everything is under control." And the plugging of holes takes place in such a bloody way that it is not immediately clear who is the enemy here, who is the friend here. And under the brand name "voenkor" anyone can be here (add the options yourself). https://t.me/shouvalov/42 Part 2 Under a beautiful picture for vysruk, we are ruining the best, and we are ruining at an accelerated pace. It is more convenient to plug the hole with specialists, and the state will not lose even a company from the loss. As long as you don't worry. By the way, it is quite a working model, if you have time to recruit and train new specialists in the right quantities. But we can't do it anymore. We kill the best, as at the last booze. Motivated infantry is already aiming for the Red Book. We can’t cover the loss of people with a technical base because of the volunteers: these mediocrity still have not learned how to convert a “loaf” into a “Tiger”, and glue the newest tank from a dead hoe (and even two). Our reports are made by specialists, with reports everything is still good, but with people it is getting worse and worse. Therefore, all these disputes about "were left or recaptured", "did an enemy landing land or not" scare me so much. Under such disputes from the nerves of the vyrukov, we lose people, and we get only calming the nerves of all the same vyrukov. Therefore, I do not like to comment on the situation on specific positions. I understand your curiosity, but believe me: 90% of you are not ready for the truth. An unprepared civilian will go crazy from "trench heroism" in a matter of hours, but in a front-line hospital one can go crazy faster from screams and groans than in a trench under fire. In front-line morgues, healthy men get heart attacks and turn gray even before the identification of their boys begins. When evacuating two hundredths in the summer heat, unprepared people will not be able to approach the car closer than 50 meters simply because of the smell. Do not glorify the war, do not demand every second reports and confirmations. Do not feed the craving for good reports. There is no romance here. We are really one step away from disaster, although such a state is historically familiar to us. Russian roulette as a national sport. But this time the vysruki are playing "Russian roulette" not with a revolver, but with Makarov. A misfire is possible, and there are such blows that they can also miss (they shoot at our heads). But this is such a consolation... https://t.me/shouvalov/43 They say that the Moscow police began to distribute anti-drone guns. Even if I wanted to, I could not have chosen an illustration of our managerial decisions better than this one. And I'm not lazy, I'll explain everything. But first, I will stand up for those vysrukov that we now nominally have (and who in fact have us). Strelkov, who has always criticized the authorities, is now surrounded by the same problem with the approach to finding solutions: they already have the logo "Freedom to Strelkov!" changed, and new stickers were made, and the scale of the picture was edited, but for some reason nothing helped and Strelkov is still sitting. Put these in the General Staff - there would definitely not have been any changes for the better. The anti-drone guns of the police, volunteers and all sorts of people are not about the fight against drones in Moscow, but about new problems. Is it possible to surround an ATM with an anti-drone gun? Will they burn the 5G towers? And the tower of a competing cellular operator? And the TV to the annoying neighbor? And Tesla freak from a neighboring yard? And electronics on Merce? Does your girlfriend have the latest iPhone? And the boss has a pacemaker? The use of these things is not regulated, because safety rules, snips, wheezing and regulations, like the Charter - all this is written in blood. I still have no idea about the side effects of the anti-drone gun, but I know for sure that there are no potentially vulnerable targets for him in Moscow. But the enemy’s UAVs are not included in these goals, but they can distract from the chaos that we are about to bring ourselves. Themselves, all by themselves - tea is not loafers. This is how we solve problems at the front somehow: we are trying to solve one - we are importing two new ones with this solution. And all because complex system solutions require an equally complex system approach. Remember how it was at the beginning of the NWO? There were fighters near Kiev with minimal supplies. Yes, no question: we will send them more supply columns. Right on the territory of the enemy, which is not cleared and hostile. As a result, the problem with the supply of advanced units receded into the background: here we have supply columns so fired that something needs to be done with them. Urgently let the aviation cover. But we, however, did not suppress the air defense (or rather, we suppressed it and re-suppressed it, but we did not bring information about its destruction to the attention of the enemy), so our birds began to shoot down. And to hell with them, with the columns - you have to think about aviation. But nothing, because we are just doing a gesture of goodwill: troops, to maintain morale, line up in a column, step by step ... And then the enemy begins to cover the parade columns with artillery. And you can even say that it all started with units near Kiev, which were left without supplies. But is it their business? I will tell you later about fashionable civilian gadgets such as various trainings for the General Staff, which some generals without experience in the army brought even before the start of the NWO. Very interesting and useful, but it didn't work. And in many ways it was the cause of those punctures that we saw, and which need to be corrected. But it is necessary to correct systematically, in a complex. Honestly: if the question is point-blank, let's forget for now who made a mistake and who to ask. Let's just start fixing it. Complex. And for this, let's first analyze the real picture as it is. Everything is not necessary in the public plane, there are no questions about this. But for ourselves, dear ones, it's time to decide: what we have at the moment, what trends are there, what REAL improvements and corrections we can make. Checkpoints, full names of those responsible, clearly formulated tasks. Because you are already looking for #$% surrogates for solutions in which the number π, depending on the situation and the military-political situation, varies from "less than a hundred" to "slightly more than zero." Well, I’m not asking for the impossible, such as explaining to us the meaning of choosing exactly the letters Z and V for the Russian Army, our shells will not fly any worse or better from this. But let's move on to systemic understandable work. There is one nuance in the mixture of chaos and heroism: the heroes end, and the chaos only multiplies. And you are the Moscow police - anti-drone guns ... The solution was found .. https://t.me/shouvalov/46 |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:46:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Some of ya'll visceral hatred for Trump is messing with your logic. Next we will hear how the Afghanistan fiasco would have been the same even if Trump was POTUS. Reagan was the same as Carter, Bush the same as Clinton, FBHO was the same as Trump, "sleepy joe is just doing what Trump would have done, except when it's stupid...then it still Trump's fault" ..."all POTUS are the same... |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:47:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: That's the thing, we push and push with our ideas on how to improve the training. All of the instructors have a voice and their areas of expertise. I am trying to get them more time at the shooting range and the ammunition that comes with that. We practice disassembly/assembly, mag changes, and shooting positions while we are there with them for pre-training. These guys have a very short training schedule considering how soon they will be at the front, and a lot to take in. The group in training now is as you describe, but will be in combat next month. Every minute of additional training is in their best interest. The UA staff needs to listen more to the suggestions we are presenting to them in regards to training. It's surreal hearing about guys we all know here that are now injured or KIA.  Work those guys. Make them fill mags if they have nothing else to do. Get some callus buildup on those hands with a shovel. Seriously, the tank guys in training were wanting simulator time after supper instead of relaxing. Same with the arty guys, patriot guys, etc. You beat those russian fuckers by being better at everything, and being tougher, have more stamina. Violence of force should be the mindset. You can tell my boomer ass to shut up and it won't hurt my feelings.
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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:48:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m35ben]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: High tech driveby |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 7:07:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
[#33]
American Infantryman on the Budapest Memoranda
Especially for those who have not read, but know. Let's read together! It's not the first time I've noticed that some people like to latch on to what they consider to be a valid argument, and, without going into the details at all, wave them to the right and left. "They must!!!", "They must!", "West, where are our guarantees?!!" - This is now rushing from all corners. I think that many have already guessed what the Budapest memorandum is about. If you are one of those who haven't read it, but know exactly what it is about, this short post is for you. If you don't know, all the more. So, briefly and about the main thing: about those two points of the memorandum, which are interpreted by many people in the wrong way. Number one, aka point four. He says that the countries that signed the memorandum are obliged to demand immediate action from the UN Security Council in case of aggression towards Ukraine. Once again - demand action from the UN Security Council. Did everyone read it? It's great. In this point, there is no obligation to take direct action to provide assistance. Bonus - we all remember WHO is part of the UN Security Council? That's it. Number two, aka point six. The countries that signed the memorandum undertake to hold consultations in the event of aggression. The key word here is consultation. Once again - consultations. Let's summarize. There is no promise of direct protection and the supply of weapons in the event of aggression in the memorandum. Point. Has the country of shit and vodka (c) violated the memorandum? - OF COURSE IT IS. Have the US and UK violated it? - No, it was not violated. They have not violated, they are not obliged, they should not. All. The rest is your emotions and fantasies. Don't take wishful thinking for granted. If you want to argue and blame, look for other arguments. And think about it, how did it happen that Ukraine exchanged something very specific and important for something so impractical? And also, some people should learn the word "thanks" in relation to those countries that should not help, but do it. (c) Bessinka American infantryman https://t.me/usinfantryman1/14993 |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 7:10:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3qHyoIXwAEkiEv?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3qH3hAWIAEZ3Pb?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3qIEvxX0AEB-Qo?format=jpg&name=small Just what I was day dreaming about! Most excellent graphic. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 7:14:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Damn that was a bit nuts Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
LEEROY JENKINS!!! |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 7:19:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood:
10:10 someone gets it |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 7:23:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Damn that was a bit nuts Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I couldn't really figure out what they were firing at. Trenches/foxholes? |
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USA
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Posted: 8/16/2023 7:25:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Just what I was day dreaming about! Most excellent graphic. We used to train to shoot and “scoot” in under two minutes. It was very difficult to do. At our best we had the counterfire drill to the point where for some trajectories we could have radar directed rounds out before the enemy fire actually landed. Impossible without en extensive digital network though. With clouds of drones it has to be misery. Sit still and die from radar directed counterbattery. Move and die when the drones see movement and direct fire on you. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 7:31:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: I couldn't really figure out what they were firing at. Trenches/foxholes? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I couldn't really figure out what they were firing at. Trenches/foxholes? I think it was a treeline, trench position. Another section of the video shows the tank firing at the northern part of Urozhaine. The end of the video you can see another vehicle doing a run as well. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 7:39:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Some of ya'll visceral hatred for Trump is messing with your logic. Next we will hear how the Afghanistan fiasco would have been the same even if Trump was POTUS. Reagan was the same as Carter, Bush the same as Clinton, FBHO was the same as Trump, "sleepy joe is just doing what Trump would have done, except when it's stupid...then it still Trump's fault" ..."all POTUS are the same... I kind of think Trump sort of forgot about Afghanistan and wasn't really fully aware that we were at war for the whole four years he was President. I think it slipped his mind because it never gave him any opportunity for a photo op or claim what a great thing he did. I'm sure if he was President he would be very focused on Ukraine's relationship to Hunter Biden or a photo op shaking Putin's hand and so he might have a better shot at knowing something is going on there than with Afghanistan. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 7:46:27 PM EDT
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 Live in Lviv - Panel 3 - Culture Vs Tyranny - Marta Trotsiuk, Oleksandr Pronkevych, Maria, and Sofia |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 7:51:29 PM EDT
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https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/08/17/ukraine-develops-autonomous-fpv-drones-photos/
  Ukraine develops autonomous FPV drones: photos Increasing domestic drone production is one of Ukraine’s most essential tasks, given both the high demand for UAVs and their heavy losses at the front The Ukrainian company AirUnit is developing FPV drones with a self-guided system that should overcome Russian electronic warfare and increase the impact of strikes on Russian positions, Fokus said, citing co-owner of the company Andrii Shtepa. Over the past 15 months, Ukaine’s Defense Ministry has already put into service more than 30 models of unmanned aerial vehicles of various types, from reconnaissance and attack drones to loitering munitions. However, Russia also effectively introduces technologies into its army and efficiently utilizes inexpensive solutions. The cheaper the means one side employs and the greater the losses they impose on the other, the more effective they make combat operations. “We need cost-effective solutions that will achieve at least 20% effectiveness when launching a kamikaze drone to alter the situation on the front significantly. We aim to create a reliable product that will work flawlessly, pose no issues, be user-friendly, and exhibit an efficiency exceeding 20%,” Andrii Shtepa said. According to the developer’s calculations, the effectiveness of Ukrainian FPV drones is currently around 10%. The effectiveness of the Russian Lancet drones is approximately 25%-30%. With the autonomous system, the drone operator will need to capture the target by clicking on the object on the screen, and the drone will be able to fly to it independently, even under the influence of electronic warfare. Most often, communication with the ground station is lost if there is no electronic suppression when the drone descends and goes to the target – radio signals do not reach due to the terrain. “Currently, there is a global issue – none of the Ukrainian drone manufacturers have solved the issue of automatic guidance. This is exactly what we want to offer first. Perhaps someone will be a little ahead of us, but we already have an agreement with manufacturers of processors and chips for computer vision. We plan to solve the problem by using computer vision and building an algorithm for the drone’s operation during a loss of communication,” Shtepa said. The self-guided system makes drones two to three times more expensive, but according to Shtepa, this price will not be extremely high. “We started working with drone components and received Evaluation Kits for testing and assembling prototypes, which comes out to $180 for an onboard computer, which will essentially be a flight controller, which is very cheap. I think, the final cost of the board we will offer will be around 25,000-30,000 hryvnias, which is not much more expensive than the products already available in Ukraine,” Shtepa concluded. The first prototypes of the self-guided FPV drones will be delivered to the Ukrainian military in September, and after confirmation of their effectiveness, mass production will begin. Currently, the company manufactures three types of drones for different tasks and targets: a 7-inch frame drone, a 9-inch frame drone, and a wing-type drone for rear targets. “We plan to produce 10,000 FPV drones of all three types by the end of the year,” said the project manager. AirUnit also brings to Ukraine and helps to integrate electronic warfare and reconnaissance equipment from the German AARonia company. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 7:55:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vtmarine: We used to train to shoot and “scoot” in under two minutes. It was very difficult to do. At our best we had the counterfire drill to the point where for some trajectories we could have radar directed rounds out before the enemy fire actually landed. Impossible without en extensive digital network though. With clouds of drones it has to be misery. Sit still and die from radar directed counterbattery. Move and die when the drones see movement and direct fire on you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vtmarine: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Just what I was day dreaming about! Most excellent graphic. We used to train to shoot and “scoot” in under two minutes. It was very difficult to do. At our best we had the counterfire drill to the point where for some trajectories we could have radar directed rounds out before the enemy fire actually landed. Impossible without en extensive digital network though. With clouds of drones it has to be misery. Sit still and die from radar directed counterbattery. Move and die when the drones see movement and direct fire on you. Wow that is intense. Seconds count. You must really appreciate a good team under those conditions. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 8:03:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: I wonder what his cause of death was? Makarov migraine? Fall from window? Too close to the front and got turned into HIMARS ragu? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3qNnaAW4AAM2ks?format=jpg&name=small Makarov migraine? Fall from window? Too close to the front and got turned into HIMARS ragu? All three of those scenarios, sure paint one heck of a mental picture. Himars ragu especially! |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 8:09:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I think it was a treeline, trench position. Another section of the video shows the tank firing at the northern part of Urozhaine. The end of the video you can see another vehicle doing a run as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I couldn't really figure out what they were firing at. Trenches/foxholes? I think it was a treeline, trench position. Another section of the video shows the tank firing at the northern part of Urozhaine. The end of the video you can see another vehicle doing a run as well. I think their gun stabilizer was inop as well. Some of their shots didn't go very far. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 8:17:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/08/17/ukraine-develops-autonomous-fpv-drones-photos/ https://euromaidanpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/fpv-drone-ukraine-800x500.jpg https://euromaidanpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/4917526a-27621f663b1cb80ac4c9a007b1aae46a.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/08/17/ukraine-develops-autonomous-fpv-drones-photos/ https://euromaidanpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/fpv-drone-ukraine-800x500.jpg https://euromaidanpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/4917526a-27621f663b1cb80ac4c9a007b1aae46a.jpg Ukraine develops autonomous FPV drones: photos Increasing domestic drone production is one of Ukraine’s most essential tasks, given both the high demand for UAVs and their heavy losses at the front The Ukrainian company AirUnit is developing FPV drones with a self-guided system that should overcome Russian electronic warfare and increase the impact of strikes on Russian positions, Fokus said, citing co-owner of the company Andrii Shtepa. Over the past 15 months, Ukaine’s Defense Ministry has already put into service more than 30 models of unmanned aerial vehicles of various types, from reconnaissance and attack drones to loitering munitions. However, Russia also effectively introduces technologies into its army and efficiently utilizes inexpensive solutions. The cheaper the means one side employs and the greater the losses they impose on the other, the more effective they make combat operations. “We need cost-effective solutions that will achieve at least 20% effectiveness when launching a kamikaze drone to alter the situation on the front significantly. We aim to create a reliable product that will work flawlessly, pose no issues, be user-friendly, and exhibit an efficiency exceeding 20%,” Andrii Shtepa said. According to the developer’s calculations, the effectiveness of Ukrainian FPV drones is currently around 10%. The effectiveness of the Russian Lancet drones is approximately 25%-30%. With the autonomous system, the drone operator will need to capture the target by clicking on the object on the screen, and the drone will be able to fly to it independently, even under the influence of electronic warfare. Most often, communication with the ground station is lost if there is no electronic suppression when the drone descends and goes to the target – radio signals do not reach due to the terrain. “Currently, there is a global issue – none of the Ukrainian drone manufacturers have solved the issue of automatic guidance. This is exactly what we want to offer first. Perhaps someone will be a little ahead of us, but we already have an agreement with manufacturers of processors and chips for computer vision. We plan to solve the problem by using computer vision and building an algorithm for the drone’s operation during a loss of communication,” Shtepa said. The self-guided system makes drones two to three times more expensive, but according to Shtepa, this price will not be extremely high. “We started working with drone components and received Evaluation Kits for testing and assembling prototypes, which comes out to $180 for an onboard computer, which will essentially be a flight controller, which is very cheap. I think, the final cost of the board we will offer will be around 25,000-30,000 hryvnias, which is not much more expensive than the products already available in Ukraine,” Shtepa concluded. The first prototypes of the self-guided FPV drones will be delivered to the Ukrainian military in September, and after confirmation of their effectiveness, mass production will begin. Currently, the company manufactures three types of drones for different tasks and targets: a 7-inch frame drone, a 9-inch frame drone, and a wing-type drone for rear targets. “We plan to produce 10,000 FPV drones of all three types by the end of the year,” said the project manager. AirUnit also brings to Ukraine and helps to integrate electronic warfare and reconnaissance equipment from the German AARonia company. So, they plan to use a BeagleBone Blue?  
It runs the ardupilot firmware and can also run other stuff concurrently. It would be just about right for this application. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 8:17:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: I think their gun stabilizer was inop as well. Some of their shots didn't go very far. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I couldn't really figure out what they were firing at. Trenches/foxholes? I think it was a treeline, trench position. Another section of the video shows the tank firing at the northern part of Urozhaine. The end of the video you can see another vehicle doing a run as well. I think their gun stabilizer was inop as well. Some of their shots didn't go very far. That too, they put a few into the dirt nearby. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 8:18:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: I think their gun stabilizer was inop as well. Some of their shots didn't go very far. I thought so too. But you can see a few times something hitting close to the tank then damage down range. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 8:19:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: So, they plan to use a BeagleBone Blue? www.amazon.com/dp/B099WFJXLT It runs the ardupilot firmware and can also run other stuff concurrently. It would be just about right for this application. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/08/17/ukraine-develops-autonomous-fpv-drones-photos/ https://euromaidanpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/fpv-drone-ukraine-800x500.jpg https://euromaidanpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/4917526a-27621f663b1cb80ac4c9a007b1aae46a.jpg Ukraine develops autonomous FPV drones: photos Increasing domestic drone production is one of Ukraine’s most essential tasks, given both the high demand for UAVs and their heavy losses at the front The Ukrainian company AirUnit is developing FPV drones with a self-guided system that should overcome Russian electronic warfare and increase the impact of strikes on Russian positions, Fokus said, citing co-owner of the company Andrii Shtepa. Over the past 15 months, Ukaine’s Defense Ministry has already put into service more than 30 models of unmanned aerial vehicles of various types, from reconnaissance and attack drones to loitering munitions. However, Russia also effectively introduces technologies into its army and efficiently utilizes inexpensive solutions. The cheaper the means one side employs and the greater the losses they impose on the other, the more effective they make combat operations. “We need cost-effective solutions that will achieve at least 20% effectiveness when launching a kamikaze drone to alter the situation on the front significantly. We aim to create a reliable product that will work flawlessly, pose no issues, be user-friendly, and exhibit an efficiency exceeding 20%,” Andrii Shtepa said. According to the developer’s calculations, the effectiveness of Ukrainian FPV drones is currently around 10%. The effectiveness of the Russian Lancet drones is approximately 25%-30%. With the autonomous system, the drone operator will need to capture the target by clicking on the object on the screen, and the drone will be able to fly to it independently, even under the influence of electronic warfare. Most often, communication with the ground station is lost if there is no electronic suppression when the drone descends and goes to the target – radio signals do not reach due to the terrain. “Currently, there is a global issue – none of the Ukrainian drone manufacturers have solved the issue of automatic guidance. This is exactly what we want to offer first. Perhaps someone will be a little ahead of us, but we already have an agreement with manufacturers of processors and chips for computer vision. We plan to solve the problem by using computer vision and building an algorithm for the drone’s operation during a loss of communication,” Shtepa said. The self-guided system makes drones two to three times more expensive, but according to Shtepa, this price will not be extremely high. “We started working with drone components and received Evaluation Kits for testing and assembling prototypes, which comes out to $180 for an onboard computer, which will essentially be a flight controller, which is very cheap. I think, the final cost of the board we will offer will be around 25,000-30,000 hryvnias, which is not much more expensive than the products already available in Ukraine,” Shtepa concluded. The first prototypes of the self-guided FPV drones will be delivered to the Ukrainian military in September, and after confirmation of their effectiveness, mass production will begin. Currently, the company manufactures three types of drones for different tasks and targets: a 7-inch frame drone, a 9-inch frame drone, and a wing-type drone for rear targets. “We plan to produce 10,000 FPV drones of all three types by the end of the year,” said the project manager. AirUnit also brings to Ukraine and helps to integrate electronic warfare and reconnaissance equipment from the German AARonia company. So, they plan to use a BeagleBone Blue? www.amazon.com/dp/B099WFJXLT It runs the ardupilot firmware and can also run other stuff concurrently. It would be just about right for this application. I figured you'd see a solution quickly.
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Posted: 8/16/2023 8:28:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: That's where you're wrong. Russia provoked this conflict. They own it, and ALL the consequences. Not only Moldova, but Japan should get the Kurils back. Faced with a devastating war in Ukraine, losing Transnistria and Kurils might be enough for even the siloviki to turn on Putin. We should keep poking until the Kremlin loses the ability to export unrest, war, and destruction. Sure, some people fear what happens if Russia collapses, is wracked by popular uprising and/or civil war. But in a way, having that happen would remove Russia's ability to generate trouble for the rest of the world. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Birddog15: Originally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Birddog15: Giving up land for entrance into NATO is a pragmatic idea. We may not like it, but if Ukraine eventually chooses that path, I'd understand. For those who say that this will just delay Russia's next attack; Russia has shown no inclination to go to war with NATO. If they do decide to attack NATO down the road at some point, then all of this worry over Ukraine and its territory will be a moot point. The world will have much bigger worries. Whether Russia loses to Ukraine next year and goes back home with no Ukrainian territory, or goes home with a little Ukrainian territory, really doesn't make much difference in the long run, as far as long term security goes for Ukraine. Either way, Ukraine is ending up in NATO and Russia will be very unlikely to attack it again. Obviously, we all hope that Ukraine keeps every square inch of its territory and that every Russian that set foot in Ukraine ends up as dirt. But Ukraine is the one with more and more families visiting grave sites every day, so how this ends is their decision alone to make. That's why I say give up Crimea and Russia loses Donetsk and Luhansk. The defensive line in northern Crimea is going to be a tough nut to crack. It's a win for Ukraine and a major loss for Russia. BUT before that deal happens Ukraine needs to liberate Transnistria and send it back to Moldova. That would be the ultimate defeat for Russia. That's where you're wrong. Russia provoked this conflict. They own it, and ALL the consequences. Not only Moldova, but Japan should get the Kurils back. Faced with a devastating war in Ukraine, losing Transnistria and Kurils might be enough for even the siloviki to turn on Putin. We should keep poking until the Kremlin loses the ability to export unrest, war, and destruction. Sure, some people fear what happens if Russia collapses, is wracked by popular uprising and/or civil war. But in a way, having that happen would remove Russia's ability to generate trouble for the rest of the world. I don't worry much about Russia collapsing. It has happened once in my lifetime and things didn't go too sideways. But if you think we should not even consider the ramifications of Russia being poked so hard that Putin decides to go nuclear, then all I can say is I am glad there are some adults in charge. If I were king I would be giving Ukraine waaaay more and waaay faster. But somewhere there is a line beyond which lies catastrophe, and we all must be very mindful of that. |
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