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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:08:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Blending in is key. Having done enough penetration testing, looking the part and acting like you know what you are doing will get you overlooked in most places. If this was some super secret op, the dude wouldn't work for a company. He wouldn't go out without playing a part. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I will say this much as a railroad contractor here in the states, steel toes, vest, glasses and hard hat makes a lot of folks assume you should be where you are. Blending in is key. Having done enough penetration testing, looking the part and acting like you know what you are doing will get you overlooked in most places. If this was some super secret op, the dude wouldn't work for a company. He wouldn't go out without playing a part. 
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:08:30 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: An illegal alien working for a company involved with critical infrastructure. Does the company have any liability for illegally hiring an illegal alien and putting him in this position? |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:17:04 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If he was a Chechen war criminal who pulled out a kukri and tried to chop up the homeowner they'll be wiring a check. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: An illegal alien working for a company involved with critical infrastructure. Does the company have any liability for illegally hiring an illegal alien and putting him in this position? Wiring it to Biden? |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:26:02 AM EDT
[#4]
Time to get this thread on back on track.
Unknown person enters onto property not his w/o invitation or lawful right to do so. Unsup becomes physically aggressive towards property owner. Unsup get killed by armed home owner who fears for his life due to size, age, implied and stated intent to injure home owner. Good shoot. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:01:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dressing like a worker, or like you belong will get you into a lot of places you want to get into. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I will say this much as a railroad contractor here in the states, steel toes, vest, glasses and hard hat makes a lot of folks assume you should be where you are. Works in hospitals too. Dressing like a worker, or like you belong will get you into a lot of places you want to get into. If you’re not a dumbass and can halfway speak with some sense of intelligence, a white single-cab F150/Silverado 1500, khaki pants with a blue button down shirt, a clipboard, a hi-viz vest, and a hard hat is the unlock key to wherever you want to go. Bonus points if you keep a road cone in the truck bed. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:04:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Time to get this thread on back on track. Unknown person enters onto property not his w/o invitation or lawful right to do so. Unsup becomes physically aggressive towards property owner. Unsup get killed by armed home owner who fears for his life due to size, age, implied and stated intent to injure home owner. Good shoot. You are missing the easement part. As part of a utility contractor likely doing work there, he would have a lawful right to access the easement. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:10:43 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are missing the easement part. As part of a utility contractor likely doing work there, he would have a lawful right to access the easement. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Time to get this thread on back on track. Unknown person enters onto property not his w/o invitation or lawful right to do so. Unsup becomes physically aggressive towards property owner. Unsup get killed by armed home owner who fears for his life due to size, age, implied and stated intent to injure home owner. Good shoot. You are missing the easement part. As part of a utility contractor likely doing work there, he would have a lawful right to access the easement. I assume that in NC, as in virtually anywhere with trespass laws, the property owner can trespass people who don't have or show proof of right to easement. Otherwise any trespasser can just say "I'm a subcontractor dipshit for the utility and I don't need no ID" And your trespass laws are basically worthless. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:16:09 AM EDT
[#8]
Newer news article on the shooting.
Fayetteville Observer “Investigators are diligently working to gather all relevant information prior to concluding the investigation, including autopsy reports and findings from the Chief Medical Examiner’s Office,” the release said. “Once all facts have been collected and reviewed, the case will be presented to the District Attorney’s Office for a determination on whether criminal charges will be pursued.” The Sheriff’s Department said Daraev was in the area working as a subcontractor for Utilities One. According to a news release, a 911 caller reported someone was taking photographs and “had become aggressive towards another resident outside their home.” An online Change.org petition purportedly created by Daraev's family claims Daraev was taking photographs on the property to show work he'd completed. It identifies him as originally from Chechnya. "For an unknown reason, this man fired several shots and brutally took the life of Ramzan ... Ramzan left Russia, not realizing that the greatest injustice against him would be done in a free country, where, in theory, he should have received protection," the petition, posted May 7, reads. It goes on to state that the shooter was released after a "short interview" with law enforcement and that Daraev was shot in the hands, twice in the back and in the face. A spokesperson with the US Army Special Operations Command said the soldier involved is a member of USASOC. “Per policy, we do not comment on active investigations to protect the process’ integrity. We appreciate the dedication of the Moore County Sheriff’s Department as they investigate," the USASOC statement said. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:19:27 AM EDT
[#9]
Not many updated facts yet.
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:20:55 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are missing the easement part. As part of a utility contractor likely doing work there, he would have a lawful right to access the easement. Considering law enforcement cannot contact anyone from the company it sounds like that isn’t the case. At least that is what Fox News reported. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:24:16 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are missing the easement part. As part of a utility contractor likely doing work there, he would have a lawful right to access the easement. So you’re saying, unless it’s a public easement, he should have identification to show the owner that he can be on the easement |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:24:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread sucks now |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:31:25 AM EDT
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Here, PG&E requires employees and contractors to have IDs due to scam artists going door to door. Vehicles clearly marked as well. You can call them to verify. I've never seen a "contractor" taking pictures because PG&E sends someone out to verify the work has been done. The contractors don't argue or get aggressive, they just tell you to call PG&E. I've never seen them work at night, they're usually done by 4PM.
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:31:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Newer news article on the shooting. Fayetteville Observer “Investigators are diligently working to gather all relevant information prior to concluding the investigation, including autopsy reports and findings from the Chief Medical Examiner’s Office,” the release said. “Once all facts have been collected and reviewed, the case will be presented to the District Attorney’s Office for a determination on whether criminal charges will be pursued.” The Sheriff’s Department said Daraev was in the area working as a subcontractor for Utilities One. According to a news release, a 911 caller reported someone was taking photographs and “had become aggressive towards another resident outside their home.” An online Change.org petition purportedly created by Daraev's family claims Daraev was taking photographs on the property to show work he'd completed. It identifies him as originally from Chechnya. "For an unknown reason, this man fired several shots and brutally took the life of Ramzan ... Ramzan left Russia, not realizing that the greatest injustice against him would be done in a free country, where, in theory, he should have received protection," the petition, posted May 7, reads. It goes on to state that the shooter was released after a "short interview" with law enforcement and that Daraev was shot in the hands, twice in the back and in the face. A spokesperson with the US Army Special Operations Command said the soldier involved is a member of USASOC. “Per policy, we do not comment on active investigations to protect the process’ integrity. We appreciate the dedication of the Moore County Sheriff’s Department as they investigate," the USASOC statement said. Quote HistoryQuoted: Newer news article on the shooting. Fayetteville Observer “Investigators are diligently working to gather all relevant information prior to concluding the investigation, including autopsy reports and findings from the Chief Medical Examiner’s Office,” the release said. “Once all facts have been collected and reviewed, the case will be presented to the District Attorney’s Office for a determination on whether criminal charges will be pursued.” The Sheriff’s Department said Daraev was in the area working as a subcontractor for Utilities One. According to a news release, a 911 caller reported someone was taking photographs and “had become aggressive towards another resident outside their home.” An online Change.org petition purportedly created by Daraev's family claims Daraev was taking photographs on the property to show work he'd completed. It identifies him as originally from Chechnya. "For an unknown reason, this man fired several shots and brutally took the life of Ramzan ... Ramzan left Russia, not realizing that the greatest injustice against him would be done in a free country, where, in theory, he should have received protection," the petition, posted May 7, reads. It goes on to state that the shooter was released after a "short interview" with law enforcement and that Daraev was shot in the hands, twice in the back and in the face. A spokesperson with the US Army Special Operations Command said the soldier involved is a member of USASOC. “Per policy, we do not comment on active investigations to protect the process’ integrity. We appreciate the dedication of the Moore County Sheriff’s Department as they investigate," the USASOC statement said. [Daraev was shot in the hands, twice in the back and in the face. [/b] Interesting |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:32:59 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Newer news article on the shooting. Fayetteville Observer "Investigators are diligently working to gather all relevant information prior to concluding the investigation, including autopsy reports and findings from the Chief Medical Examiner's Office," the release said. "Once all facts have been collected and reviewed, the case will be presented to the District Attorney's Office for a determination on whether criminal charges will be pursued." The Sheriff's Department said Daraev was in the area working as a subcontractor for Utilities One. According to a news release, a 911 caller reported someone was taking photographs and "had become aggressive towards another resident outside their home." An online Change.org petition purportedly created by Daraev's family claims Daraev was taking photographs on the property to show work he'd completed. It identifies him as originally from Chechnya. "For an unknown reason, this man fired several shots and brutally took the life of Ramzan ... Ramzan left Russia, not realizing that the greatest injustice against him would be done in a free country, where, in theory, he should have received protection," the petition, posted May 7, reads. It goes on to state that the shooter was released after a "short interview" with law enforcement and that Daraev was shot in the hands, twice in the back and in the face. A spokesperson with the US Army Special Operations Command said the soldier involved is a member of USASOC. "Per policy, we do not comment on active investigations to protect the process' integrity. We appreciate the dedication of the Moore County Sheriff's Department as they investigate," the USASOC statement said. [Daraev was shot in the hands, twice in the back and in the face. [/b] Interesting   Slice the Pie Drill |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:35:26 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting Fight ensued and he tried to take the gun? |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 12:05:58 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fight ensued and he tried to take the gun? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Interesting Fight ensued and he tried to take the gun? Seems likely. Another possibility and one the family of the deceased will probably portray is that he had his hands up or was attempting to leave the property and the shooter murdered him in cold blood. There’s two sides to every story obviously. This is a crazy one! Waiting for more details. ETA: one new tidbit that I gleaned from the more recent article is that the utility worker had an altercation with another neighbor prior to the shooting. So this gets weirder. Was this dude having a bad day and chose to go hands on with the wrong guy? |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 12:08:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you know where it went off the rails? I jumped in on page 12 with the purse swinging. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This thread sucks now I think page elevenish or so! |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 12:12:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Newer news article on the shooting. Fayetteville Observer "Investigators are diligently working to gather all relevant information prior to concluding the investigation, including autopsy reports and findings from the Chief Medical Examiner's Office," the release said. "Once all facts have been collected and reviewed, the case will be presented to the District Attorney's Office for a determination on whether criminal charges will be pursued." The Sheriff's Department said Daraev was in the area working as a subcontractor for Utilities One. According to a news release, a 911 caller reported someone was taking photographs and "had become aggressive towards another resident outside their home." An online Change.org petition purportedly created by Daraev's family claims Daraev was taking photographs on the property to show work he'd completed. It identifies him as originally from Chechnya. "For an unknown reason, this man fired several shots and brutally took the life of Ramzan ... Ramzan left Russia, not realizing that the greatest injustice against him would be done in a free country, where, in theory, he should have received protection," the petition, posted May 7, reads. It goes on to state that the shooter was released after a "short interview" with law enforcement and that Daraev was shot in the hands, twice in the back and in the face. A spokesperson with the US Army Special Operations Command said the soldier involved is a member of USASOC. "Per policy, we do not comment on active investigations to protect the process' integrity. We appreciate the dedication of the Moore County Sheriff's Department as they investigate," the USASOC statement said. [Daraev was shot in the hands, twice in the back and in the face. [/b] Interesting  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lEEN1zh0CM |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 12:38:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As a sub for UT companies, my experience is relevant when it comes to what some Arfcom people think about them needing to wear, IDs, uniforms, logos, all the shit you people are making up for some reason. I am telling you from years of experience they don't need that stuff and often won't have it. Why are you even arguing about it. Can you come up with some rule somewhere that says they do need that stuff? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: People are pointing out that your full of shit and bringing up crap that's irrelevant to the situation. This was at night. So maybe quit acting like your experience is somehow relevant. Why are you even arguing about it. Can you come up with some rule somewhere that says they do need that stuff? I can. It's called common sense. It may be okay in the communist shithole of Washington to have a great sense of entitlement and self importance when you're on someone's property, not so much here in Normal America. I've never seen anyone here whose job requires them to be on someone's property that didn't have all the things you listed. This avoids unpleasant misunderstandings and issues related to liability. Contractors/subs here like to be easily identified. Our Castle Doctrine Law probably is a factor as well. We don't have to bow down or bend over for criminals. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 12:42:04 PM EDT
[#21]
The utility company released this statement. If it's true that no law enforcement agency has attempted to contact the company, that's odd.
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Posted: 5/26/2024 12:42:25 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d like to see @Windustsearch hop, skip and jump his way over to Montana and try the attitude he tries with his fellow left coast lemmings. Hell I work IN people’s homes and I give them a courtesy text every single day I show up to do work, before I get on the property. The kind of attitude he portrays here would get his ass run out of 90% of the properties in the county, at gunpoint. Ohhh would not fly in Eastern OK either. in fact now, many companies are texting pictures and or the names of the people they are sending to you place to vet. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 12:51:36 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I will say this much as a railroad contractor here in the states, steel toes, vest, glasses and hard hat makes a lot of folks assume you should be where you are. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 12:53:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The utility company released this statement. If it's true that no law enforcement agency has attempted to contact the company, that's odd. https://i.postimg.cc/3x39G1hT/445550843-971701301629735-5824240448923590406-n.jpg 1. That's a very aggressive press release. 2. Tinfoil hat time: No LE contact because the company is into some shady shit and the Feds et al. are doing their own looking? 3. Nice second post. Welcome, fellow firearms enthusiast. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 1:17:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you’re saying, unless it’s a public easement, he should have identification to show the owner that he can be on the easement Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You are missing the easement part. As part of a utility contractor likely doing work there, he would have a lawful right to access the easement. So you’re saying, unless it’s a public easement, he should have identification to show the owner that he can be on the easement 911 caller reported someone was taking photographs and “had become aggressive towards another resident outside their home.” Yes |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 1:17:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ohhh would not fly in Eastern OK either. in fact now, many companies are texting pictures and or the names of the people they are sending to you place to vet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’d like to see @Windustsearch hop, skip and jump his way over to Montana and try the attitude he tries with his fellow left coast lemmings. Hell I work IN people’s homes and I give them a courtesy text every single day I show up to do work, before I get on the property. The kind of attitude he portrays here would get his ass run out of 90% of the properties in the county, at gunpoint. Ohhh would not fly in Eastern OK either. in fact now, many companies are texting pictures and or the names of the people they are sending to you place to vet. “Try that in a small town!” lol Reality check- it doesn’t fly anywhere. I run the physical plant for one of the largest and densest telecom markets in the country, here in the metro tri-state area. Two million homes, 30k miles of plant, a few hundred employees and thousands of vendors over the years. Of our vendors we require vests and hard hats and badges and marked vehicles and background checks. If we find guys out there without any of that, we punt them from the job. We also provide advance notice to people if we will be in their backyard, easement or on their general property. Anyone who has been in any utility employment role knows that it’s dangerous out there. I’ve had guys get confronted by gangbangers in the hood, hillbillies in the sticks, nervous Johnny Homeowner’s in the burbs and skittish cops everywhere. So guys in the field with experience know that they need to be careful and make their presence known. No one wants to get arrested or killed over utility work. Second reality check- shit happens. Foreigners who work cheap and who don’t understand the rules do stupid shit all the time. They get themselves killed when they fall off of poles or out of trucks, they get themselves zapped by power lines, they get get tangled up with the aforementioned locals and cops when they are somewhere that they shouldn’t have been. With the volume of work and the number of prime vendors who sub contract the work to someone else who will themselves subcontract the work it gets messy sometimes. I have zero idea what happened here. But the guy may well have been legit working, and brought this on himself by being a fuckwit and running into the wrong guy. He may have been a nefarious actor, sizing up the home of an ops guy for revenge. Too early to tell. It legitimately could go either way. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 1:34:20 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The utility company released this statement. If it's true that no law enforcement agency has attempted to contact the company, that's odd. https://i.postimg.cc/3x39G1hT/445550843-971701301629735-5824240448923590406-n.jpg I'm pretty sure NJ requires ID be issued and must be displayed for doing UT work. It is a NJ company, so why didn't he comply? |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 1:35:08 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Me thinks the utility company is a fake business for scouting houses to rob Hmmm, never thought of this. Have a (semi) legit company doing Sub-work, come back a few months later and rob. This should be fairly easy to validate. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 1:41:33 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryDaraev was shot in the hands, twice in the back and in the face. No wonder he hasn't been charged, it's an obvious suicide 
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Posted: 5/26/2024 1:46:50 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The utility company released this statement. If it's true that no law enforcement agency has attempted to contact the company, that's odd. https://i.postimg.cc/3x39G1hT/445550843-971701301629735-5824240448923590406-n.jpg So the Sheriff department is lying? |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 1:55:51 PM EDT
[#31]
except via forensics.
Sure hope the deceased was in possession of weapons or multiple hits @ 200 metres doesn't bode well for the shooter. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 1:57:24 PM EDT
[#32]
They released the pole number so the property can be located and soldier identified. Fantastic.
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Posted: 5/26/2024 1:58:58 PM EDT
[#33]
Very much so but expecting much coherent detail from pretty much any media source leads to disappointment these days.
Journalism died with the birth of Social Media. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 2:02:43 PM EDT
[#34]
Would not be surprised if the Biden admin or a NGO is pushing/subsidizing utilities to hire refugees as employees/sub-contractors.
Could be a innocent clash or could be a nefarious actor using the job as cover .... odd how they just caught a couple illegals (one on terror watch list) trying to get into Quantico while working as a Amazon contractors. Seems like the type of people who run around doing surveys for utilities are often marginally employable - I recall that over 20 years ago PEPCO, the natural gas utility in Alexandria, VA was sending out a guy who was obviously a cross dresser (shaved off eyebrows, other oddities) to survey gas meters for replacement. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 2:06:09 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They released the pole number so the property can be located and soldier identified. Fantastic. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 2:10:38 PM EDT
[#36]
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2024/05/26/us-special-forces-soldier-kills-illegal-chechen-found-photographing-his-nc-property-1461776/
When the police arrived on scene, they found the deceased body of suspected Chechan criminal alien Ramzan Daraev, 35. Sheriff Ronnie Fields provides an update to a May 3rd shooting death at a residence on Dowd Road in Carthage, North… According to Fox News’ Jennifer Griffin, the authorities also found a second illegal immigrant from Chechnya, Dzhankutov Adsalan, in a vehicle nearby. After questioning him, they let him go. Griffin further confirmed that a camera with a sophisticated telephoto lens was found on Daraev’s body. I dont give a shit what kind of work you are doing, or easement you are on. Illegal Chechan alien x2 on my property = good shoot. Utility one needs there shit pushed in for ( subbing jobs to illegals ) |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 2:14:25 PM EDT
[#37]
Jennifer Griffin is a RINO and a known liar. No one else has reported anything about the individuals being illegal immigrants or having a telephoto lens.
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Posted: 5/26/2024 2:15:47 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Very much so but expecting much coherent detail from pretty much any media source leads to disappointment these days. Journalism died with the birth of Social Media. Start using the Quote function. We have no other way of knowing to whom you are replying. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 2:20:06 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Jennifer Griffin is a RINO and a known liar. No one else has reported anything about the individuals being illegal immigrants or having a telephoto lens. Sure, sure sure... |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 2:23:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's an AI pic.  I took the pic...with a phone.
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Posted: 5/26/2024 2:24:04 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Jennifer Griffin is a RINO and a known liar. No one else has reported anything about the individuals being illegal immigrants or having a telephoto lens. noted. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 2:27:14 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You have a Contractor's License and a Filed Development Plan. That can be checked and if you don't, you are breaking Washington State Law. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 2:45:26 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The utility company released this statement. If it's true that no law enforcement agency has attempted to contact the company, that's odd. https://i.postimg.cc/3x39G1hT/445550843-971701301629735-5824240448923590406-n.jpg I'm pretty sure we aren't giving asylum to Russians in this conflict. We also aren't giving out H1Bs for utility inspections. So this company is pretty much admitting they are hiring Joe Biden's Newcomers. And this guy and his compatriots came across the southern border with no background checks. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 3:11:56 PM EDT
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It will be interesting to find out more.
I have not been down that road in over a decade. It basically was 10-15 miles from a courthouse in one town to a town with some lakes, and maybe a golf course, parts store, food lion, etc. The kind of road you go down and see lots of chicken houses, fields, some old homes, some nice homes, plenty of woods, some little farms, etc. It’s the kind of road you drive down and in addition to locals, some affluent transplants, etc, it’s pretty much all the kind of people that don’t want to be in a subdivision let alone apartments with neighbors, etc. People there will be used to seeing rural working black people, Latin American laborers, locals, mil, transplants, etc. They will be used to seeing obvious utility workers. Some rando that wouldn’t / couldn’t hand them a sheet of paper saying they’re a utility contractor while saying, “Hey man, just here making sure the easement is clear” - let alone if they were belligerent and threatening, would not- despite claims of someone thousands of miles away- be at all normal for them. Let alone if the guy couldn’t show anything and wouldn’t leave when told. You are allowed to use the reasonable amount of force necessary to get them to leave. And I literally knew people on that road. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 3:14:21 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Works in hospitals too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I will say this much as a railroad contractor here in the states, steel toes, vest, glasses and hard hat makes a lot of folks assume you should be where you are. Works in hospitals too. Yeah I learned this back in college. I was working part-time for IT company that had the contract to service several hundred printers at a local hospital, and "we" (in actuality, just me) had to audit that all the printers still existed, were functional and no one had moved them to a different location. I got handed a pen and a clipboard and was told to have at it. The clipboard and a nametag got me everywhere I had to go, other than the neonatal ICU which gladly was locked down pretty tight. Most of the time I was barely even challenged as to who the hell I was. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 3:16:32 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Jennifer Griffin is a RINO and a known liar. No one else has reported anything about the individuals being illegal immigrants or having a telephoto lens. From the OP Daraev’s identity was later confirmed through family members and an international identification that was discovered in his vehicle, according to the sheriff’s office. Hes an illegal invader |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 4:12:17 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What attitude? I've already posted how meetings with people in the field usually go, several times. Read more. My attitude on here is directed at a bunch of posters that are arguing against a few basic facts for whatever reason. Also, I have worked in MT. Probably going to OR the week after next, so on and so forth. My work is not restricted to E WA. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd like to see @Windustsearch hop, skip and jump his way over to Montana and try the attitude he tries with his fellow left coast lemmings. Hell I work IN people's homes and I give them a courtesy text every single day I show up to do work, before I get on the property. The kind of attitude he portrays here would get his ass run out of 90% of the properties in the county, at gunpoint. My attitude on here is directed at a bunch of posters that are arguing against a few basic facts for whatever reason. Also, I have worked in MT. Probably going to OR the week after next, so on and so forth. My work is not restricted to E WA. No attitude. A lot of GDers are just paranoid nutters afraid of their own shadows, and anything that challenges that mentality gets them worked up. Half of the people in this thread still think it was some kind of Tom Clancy conspiracy attack. They really want to believe. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 4:31:25 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I see lots of subcontractors around my area. They are in trucks with at least a cheap magnet that supposedly claims their company name. Even if they are just some "Verizon authorized contractor" I've also never run across one at night. Or that wasn't willing to say hi. It's how I've gotten some loads of chips from the guys trimming for the power company. Who also weren't working at night. With no industry equipment. Or marked trucks. I have run across bums at night. The kind that like to set fires in areas that could become big problems. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Some stealthy dudes seeing how we haven't seen them over here on the east coast. I see lots of subcontractors around my area. They are in trucks with at least a cheap magnet that supposedly claims their company name. Even if they are just some "Verizon authorized contractor" I've also never run across one at night. Or that wasn't willing to say hi. It's how I've gotten some loads of chips from the guys trimming for the power company. Who also weren't working at night. With no industry equipment. Or marked trucks. I have run across bums at night. The kind that like to set fires in areas that could become big problems. Ya, all the ones I see around here have signs saying "contractor for (insert utility here)" with what appears to be the "official" logo of the utility. The only exception I've seen to that is the tree trimmers for power, but they've always been in marked company trucks |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 5:00:29 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No attitude. A lot of GDers are just paranoid nutters afraid of their own shadows, and anything that challenges that mentality gets them worked up. Half of the people in this thread still think it was some kind of Tom Clancy conspiracy attack. They really want to believe. Haven't read all the purse swinging pages, but I didn't see this in the first 8 or so. If this shooter was an active full bird, I'd bet that he's getting regular briefings from the force protection folks. Those wouldn't be Tom Clancy level, just real world events, many of the published base incursions have already been pointed out in this long-ish thread. That knowledge would certainly make him less trusting of strangers, let alone some foreign guy lurking around his property with a camera and no ID. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 5:06:39 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya, all the ones I see around here have signs saying "contractor for (insert utility here)" with what appears to be the "official" logo of the utility. The only exception I've seen to that is the tree trimmers for power, but they've always been in marked company trucks |
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