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Posted: 5/25/2024 10:54:12 AM EDT
For as long as I can remember Liberal US politicians have been threatening to confiscate guns, but nothing ever happens and guns are still being imported. If they were serious about it they would at least stop the importations, but that never happens and customs just let them in. Same deal in Canada. 4 years ago the liberals launched the start of a " buy back ' scheme for scary looking assault type guns. Not long after that they announced a freeze in hand gun sales to take place in a years time, and surprise surprise the gun stores and importers could not get stock in fast enough to meet the demand. There are now far more hand guns in Canada than there were before. In the last 4 years the liberals have spent $42 million of tax payers cash on the gun confiscation scheme and have not confiscated a single gun,. and the imports of scary assault style guns continue to this day. I've come to the conclusion it's all BS, none of them have any intention to confiscate firearms of any description. 
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Posted: 5/25/2024 10:58:29 AM EDT
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It will happen very slowly, then all at once.
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Posted: 5/25/2024 10:59:40 AM EDT
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Well you'd be wrong about their intentions.
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Posted: 5/25/2024 10:59:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:01:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It will happen very slowly, then all at once. It's not happening at all where I live, and it never will. Who is going to do the confiscating ? |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:04:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not happening at all where I live, and it never will. Who is going to do the confiscating ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It will happen very slowly, then all at once. It's not happening at all where I live, and it never will. Who is going to do the confiscating ? Blinders, you have them on. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:04:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well you'd be wrong about their intentions.  They chip away wherever they can, and false-flag to get done what they can't through conventional means. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:06:42 AM EDT
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Give power to the WHO, the WHO declares guns are a public health emergency. Win win and a run around congress.
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:08:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It will happen very slowly, then all at once. This. They have graduated from kissing citizens asses and worrying about reelections, ( which kept them from going nuts ) , now they have graduated from ass kissing voters to stealing elections openly with voter fraud and not even bothering to campaign anymore, and receiving no consequences, so now that they don’t need happy voters anymore to keep them in office, they can go ahead and start implementing whatever the fuck they want. After consolidation of power / voter fraud it’s a very short step to banning / implementing super draconian gun laws, and wide variety of other abuses. We’re well on the way. When I say this, I don’t mean because very tyrannical/ unconstitutional laws have been passed already, I mean because they have already TRIED , and continue to do so daily, and their general attitudes toward citizens has become royalty towards peasants, so it won’t take much to go from relatively normal as usual to full on fuck you peasants tyranny. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:09:33 AM EDT
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They get confiscated one at a time in the US if they're contraband (too short, shoot too fast, etc.) but I doubt there will ever be a huge mass confiscation because people would resist (I hope) and there aren't enough enforcement personnel to affect it simultaneously.
Their main plan of attack has been cutting off supply of certain imports and/or categories. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:11:40 AM EDT
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In 93 we thought an AWB was a joke until it wasn't.
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:12:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not happening at all where I live, and it never will. Who is going to do the confiscating ? Curious where you live zer? |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:12:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/24889/tQUlqv6-1507483.gif They chip away wherever they can, and false-flag to get done what they can't through conventional means. And while they chip away Canadian provinces erect barriers to protect their citizens from federal gun confiscation schemes. The feds could not enact a confiscation scheme in Saskatchewan even if they really wanted to, they are Donald Ducked. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:14:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In 93 we thought an AWB was a joke until it wasn't. I don’t remember a ban. Just certain “evil” features, but you could still buy an AR. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:20:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryNow, she’s dancing in the fires of Hell. Makes me happy. 
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:20:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not happening at all where I live, and it never will. Who is going to do the confiscating ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It will happen very slowly, then all at once. It's not happening at all where I live, and it never will. Who is going to do the confiscating ? They are playing the long game. Take illinois for example: you used to be able to buy an AR, now you cannot. They are going after parts and ammo as well. So now you are limited to what you can buy and use. The intended consequence is you will shoot a lot less, especially since they have restricted most ranges anyways, so add that to the checkbox too. Now think of how our children will shoot less, if at all, and the idea of enjoying a firearm, and also owning one for protection, or resist tyranny, all becomes an even more distant thought. Unless you take your kids shooting, the idea, the history, the meaning, the emotional and sentimental attachment to going out with family to a range is lost. They will have no reason or feeling of wanting to hold on to that rifle. One generation later and this is just grandpas old gun that the government wants, that no one shoots anyways, so yea let's just turn it in, cause ownership will be too cumbersome. And that is when they will politely demand everyone turn them in. You will get even more compliance cause the whole idea of owning a gun will be foreign, so less resistance to turning in. Slow and incremental my friend. They are dictating what you can buy, how you store it, taxing it, adding new fees, defying Supreme Court rulings, and everything else in between, and you think nothing is happening just cause they haven't knocked at your home?? They are coming... they just aren't knocking on YOUR door just yet. But by way of red flag laws, FOID revocations, and criminalizing victims in self defense cases and seizing their firearms, etc... they are already going to people's doors. Just not the way you imagined it. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:21:55 AM EDT
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Distraction from the long game.
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:22:31 AM EDT
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Right now they're content to prohibit the purchase of semi auto rifles, at least in my state and several others, Can't buy parts either. They expect them to go away on their own while they slowly work behind the scenes and in the dark of night to continue to mold the public's perception that all firearms must be eliminated, at least from the hands of law abiding citizens.
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:25:11 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:27:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not happening at all where I live, and it never will. Who is going to do the confiscating ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It will happen very slowly, then all at once. Who is going to do the confiscating ? Much easier to create an environment where people are afraid to own them. Ruin a few lives of regular gun owners very publicly and let that threat rest on the rest of them. Over time, gun ownership is driven underground, in some cases literally. After a few generations of very limited ownership, hardly anybody who isn't loyal to the powers that be has even basic competency. Nobody has ammunition to practice with since that supply is gone. Eventually you have a population that at best is armed with scary looking paperweights. Start thinking long term. Your enemies have been doing so for a long time already. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:27:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't remember a ban. Just certain "evil" features, but you could still buy an AR. You could no longer buy a new Galil or Steyr AUG, as they had been banned from importation in 1989. You could still buy a pre-ban on the secondary market, but they became increasingly rare and expensive as long as the ban remained in effect, just like magazines holding over 10 rounds. The market price of that stuff in 2003 was crazy high. The same thing happened to full autos in 1986 and that ban is still in effect. The CZ Bren and AR pictured in the OP are not select-fire. That's gun control in action. You can ignore the restrictions and restore the missing features, but then you'll have a contraband weapon they'll try to confiscate if it's discovered. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:30:01 AM EDT
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Its about control. No confiscation needed, just setup a tip hotline with a decent reward and wait. Your single mom down the street who is struggling to pay rent suddenly remembers seeing you carrying a rifle case from house to vehicle. Law will be visiting your house for search and seizure.
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:30:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They get confiscated one at a time in the US if they're contraband (too short, shoot too fast, etc.) but I doubt there will ever be a huge mass confiscation because people would resist (I hope) and there aren't enough enforcement personnel to affect it simultaneously. Their main plan of attack has been cutting off supply of certain imports and/or categories. The liberals supposedly tried to use Prince Edward Island ( PEI) Canadas smallest province as a test to see what would happen . The RCMP could not participate as they did not have the manpower, so they asked private security firms to do the job instead, but they were already overworked and could simply not help. That was the end of the attempt and nothing has happened since. https://thegunblog.ca/2023/01/09/liberalsrcmp-hoped-to-test-their-mass-gun-confiscations-on-p-e-i-in-december-briefing-says/ Ottawa considered P.E.I. as pilot location for gun buy-back launch before reversing course Stu Neatby · Journalist | Posted: Jan. 12, 2023, 6:42 a.m. | Updated: Jan. 12, 2023, 6:42 a.m. | 8 Min Read https://thegunblog.ca/2023/01/09/liberalsrcmp-hoped-to-test-their-mass-gun-confiscations-on-p-e-i-in-december-briefing-says/ iberals+RCMP Hoped to Test Their Mass Gun Confiscations on P.E.I. in December, Briefing Says 09 January 2023 Reading Time: 5 minutes TheGunBlog.ca — Canada’s governing Liberals and the RCMP hoped to use gun owners in Prince Edward Island as guinea pigs to test their confiscation tactics before going national, accordharing buttontwitter sharing buttonlinkedin sharing buttonemail sharing buttoncopy sharing buttonsharethis sharing button A public works document, posted publicly online in December, states a pilot program of the federal government's gun buy-back program will begin in P.E.I. this year. Public Safety Canada has denied P.E.I. will serve as a "pilot" for the program. - Unsplash A public works document posted publicly online in December states a pilot program of the federal government's gun buy-back program will begin in P.E.I. It ain't never gona happen |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:31:10 AM EDT
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I like your thoughts about importation, OP.
Which is more dangerous: Illegally imported weapons, or illegal aliens that pull their triggers? |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:32:54 AM EDT
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The slimy politicians won't call it a ban, rather a mandatory buyback or something along those lines. They play with words and libtard media promotes it. Remember the words gun control? You never hear it from the media or the left. It is now "gun safety" even if the bill is to outright BAN guns.
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:33:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Start thinking long term. Your enemies have been doing so for a long time already. There are more Canadian gun owners now than ever so they are having the opposite effect. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:33:34 AM EDT
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They don’t want your guns, they never have. What they want is popular support that spends a lot of money on a made up problem. That money goes somewhere and somehow all the politicians end up with millions in their off shore accounts.
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:33:35 AM EDT
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Sundown at Coffin Rock
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:34:23 AM EDT
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Something, something, something out of my dead cold hands motherfucker.
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:38:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They don’t want your guns, they never have. What they want is popular support that spends a lot of money on a made up problem. That money goes somewhere and somehow all the politicians end up with millions in their off shore accounts. I think you are right about that, and without a cause they would have noting to campaign for come election time. They need guns to survive ! |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:39:42 AM EDT
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As we sit here right now their lapdogs in the ATF have "regulated" face-to-face sales into a violation. I expect that this will get struck down to some degree but they will just take that to help define how they can attempt to crack that nut in other ways.
Eventually they will shove a regulation or maybe even actual legislation in place at a time when SCOTUS is too busy or has changed in composition so that change become legal gospel. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:40:59 AM EDT
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 Who Will Save Canadian Gun Rights?-A Look at Canadian Gun Ownership (2019) This article was written five years ago and the answer to the title’s question seems to be no one. As long as Canadian “gun rights” groups beg and grovel to their government they will continue to lose. The Canadian gun rights groups make the NRA look like a real gun rights group. What happened to Alberta? That government all voted on a resolution two years ago to protect their citizens gun ownership yet the RCMP still has jurisdiction there to enforce gun bans. All political talk. I wish you all the best but looks like gun ownership outside of hunting and target long guns is over for Canadians. 
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:41:25 AM EDT
[#32]
You fucking Canadians laugh all you want.
The Royal Canadian Mounted Police & Marching Band is conducting research and planning for gun confiscation, right now. The only holdup is they haven’t figured out how to burn down the goddamn frosty igloos that “you people” live in. Once that technical detail is overcome, you can expect a bunch of red-eyed maniacal Dudley DoRights, hyped up on maple syrup, to be storming in and seizing your SKSs and Beretta Cx-4s. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:41:33 AM EDT
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Ten years ago I could buy everything short of a registered MG in my state.
Now I can't buy 90% of guns on the market or magazines for them. Both of the guns in OP - now illegal to purchase in WA state. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:44:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You fucking Canadians laugh all you want. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police & Marching Band is conducting research and planning for gun confiscation, right now. The only holdup is they haven’t figured out how to burn down the goddamn frosty igloos that “you people” live in. Once that technical detail is overcome, you can expect a bunch of red-eyed maniacal Dudley DoRights, hyped up on maple syrup, to be storming in and seizing your SKSs and Beretta Cx-4s.
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:44:49 AM EDT
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Quoted: For as long as I can remember Liberal US politicians have been threatening to confiscate guns, but nothing ever happens and guns are still being imported. If they were serious about it they would at least stop the importations, but that never happens and customs just let them in. 1968GCA banned the importation of handguns under a certain size (and features) along with machineguns (for non-gov), 1989 banned certain semi-autos imports based on cosmetics, and more guns were banned from import throughout the 90's. There are a lot of (primarily Chinese?) guns that Canada can get that the US cannot. The socialists normally do not claim they want to confiscate guns. They just want to change the laws until it's illegal for someone to own it and then it's a case of a criminal breaking their laws and thus it's ok. A distinction without a difference, IIRC. People on the right happily go along because "The Law Is The Law!" and we see it right here with the pro background check crew. The whole confiscation argument pisses me off because it completely ignores the 100 steps necessary to get there, and it's yet another example of how every single argument has been taken over by spergs who can't think beyond binary. And the democrat party is dead serious about making gun ownership and use as difficult as possible, and the reason is the more roadblocks means less people willing to navigate and less people will give a shit about gun rights, which means less people will vote against democrats. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:45:19 AM EDT
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It’s all about incrementalism, desensitizing the public to government overreach gradually over time. The end goal has always been total civilian disarmament, make no mistake about it. An armed populace is the final hurdle in what is supposed to be a system of checks and balances.
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:45:56 AM EDT
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what you are saying has some validity. The politicians want the "Issue" but not the "Solution" in a manner of speaking. This goes for just about any issue, and not just guns.
For example, the 89 AWB was a permanent ban in the US for any semi auto with certain characteristics. It is still the law, signed into law by a republican president On the other hand, the 94 crime bill had a 10 year sun set and was allowed to expire. Signed into law by a democrat president. Neither did anything to stop gun violence or actual crime. It seems that the democrats want the issue of gun control to exist long enough for people to finally just except total confiscation. Politicians on both sides want the issue to exist so they have something to campaign on. So all the Rs can take a picture holding a shotgun and claim to be pro 2nd. And all the Ds can make their adds calling for the ban on fully semi-automatic weapons of war. Both sides raise millions of dollars in contributions but in the end, the ruling class wants all guns confiscated but are waiting until they can accomplish it all at once. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:46:40 AM EDT
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Import bans have been active for decades.
The banners are faced by Amendment 2, which is still a powerful deterrent. But as we are witnessing in real time, the banner politicians are becoming bolder about ignoring constitutions and laws, and courts are backing their play. Arm up. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:49:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actual complete confiscation is difficult and costly. Much easier to create an environment where people are afraid to own them. Ruin a few lives of regular gun owners very publicly and let that threat rest on the rest of them. Over time, gun ownership is driven underground, in some cases literally. After a few generations of very limited ownership, hardly anybody who isn't loyal to the powers that be has even basic competency. Nobody has ammunition to practice with since that supply is gone. Eventually you have a population that at best is armed with scary looking paperweights. Start thinking long term. Your enemies have been doing so for a long time already. 
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:50:56 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s all about incrementalism, desensitizing the public to government overreach gradually over time. The end goal has always been total civilian disarmament, make no mistake about it. An armed populace is the final hurdle in what is supposed to be a system of checks and balances. The ultimate goal has always been complete and utter control........politicians don't want to serve you, they want you to serve them as do the elites in this world. Mankind comes to points in his life where he has to make decisions that affect his life...... ..there is one great decision I hope all make.........and another not to live under the boot heel of others |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:53:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not happening at all where I live, and it never will. Who is going to do the confiscating ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It will happen very slowly, then all at once. It's not happening at all where I live, and it never will. Who is going to do the confiscating ? The word "never" is a bad word to use just like "can't", someone always comes along and proves you wrong. As for who will do the confiscating, your next door neighbor will be there to help them get it done. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:58:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now, she’s dancing in the fires of Hell. Makes me happy. 
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:58:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In 93 we thought an AWB was a joke until it wasn't. if we didn't have GWB it would have been a double down in 2003 instead of an expiration DESPITE that all evidence showed the ban was completely ineffective at its stated goals. say what you want about him, but it was an inflection point in which the import ban continued and forced many Americans to become home gunsmiths, and the sigh of relief caused a massive arming of America with AR 15's which collectively lead to both the proliferation of types of AR's and number as well as proliferation of home skillsets to modify and eventually make guns. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 11:59:39 AM EDT
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If Canada is about to turn it all around, that would be awesome.
What I see here in the U.S. is what's already been mentioned; incrementalism. Just the high capacity clips. Just the smoke hiders and things that go up. Just can't carry guns around schools or churches. Then you need a permit for your assault uzi. Then pricey liability insurance for those guns. Then one day you get a notice in the mail to turn in what they want or they'll levy fines against you and garnish your paycheck. It's just a stupid gun! Just get rid of it! Is it really worth it? |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 12:05:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t remember a ban. Just certain “evil” features, but you could still buy an AR. true, but the evil features included things like magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds, popular butt-stocks, flash suppressors/muzzle devices of any kind! My first AR was during the ban, and it was not as bad as a NY or CALI AR, but well on its way. next up would have been those evil 10 round mags (see what happened in NY, Australia etc) - along with grips and optics. there was a big push at the time over "SNIPER RIFLES" by which they meant anything that could hit the broad side of a barn. first thing I did after the ban was have the barrel milled for attachments and a flash suppressor installed. it still doesnt have a bayonet lug to this very day.  |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 12:20:35 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The word "never" is a bad word to use just like "can't", someone always comes along and proves you wrong. As for who will do the confiscating, your next door neighbor will be there to help them get it done. I live in Saskatchewan. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 12:27:20 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't remember a ban. Just certain "evil" features, but you could still buy an AR. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 12:28:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If Canada is about to turn it all around, that would be awesome. What I see here in the U.S. is what's already been mentioned; incrementalism. Just the high capacity clips. Just the smoke hiders and things that go up. Just can't carry guns around schools or churches. Then you need a permit for your assault uzi. Then pricey liability insurance for those guns. Then one day you get a notice in the mail to turn in what they want or they'll levy fines against you and garnish your paycheck. It's just a stupid gun! Just get rid of it! Is it really worth it? Nothing has happened in Canada, it's all fluff and no substance, not a single gun has been confiscated. If they were to try anything here in Sask they would have a fight on their hands and they know it, we are many, and they are willingly letting us stock up with many guns as we want. I'm not bothered in the slightest  Now I'm off to sight in my new rifle that arrived at the post office the day before yesterday. We have no middle men here. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 12:34:38 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing has happened in Canada, it's all fluff and no substance, not a single gun has been confiscated. If they were to try anything here in Sask they would have a fight on their hands and they know it, we are many, and they are willingly letting us stock up with many guns as we want. I'm not bothered in the slightest  |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 12:35:04 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing has happened in Canada, it's all fluff and no substance, not a single gun has been confiscated. If they were to try anything here in Sask they would have a fight on their hands and they know it, we are many, and they are willingly letting us stock up with many guns as we want. I'm not bothered in the slightest |
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