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Link Posted: 11/4/2018 11:58:17 PM EDT
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Ranch Rescue operated a Militia on private property across the Southwest and USBP considered them a pain in the ass. Also they got into legal trouble.
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All Ranch Rescue demonstrated is that the law is completely fucked. I'm worried that if something doesn't start to change on the border people who live there will be teetering over the edge of "shoot, shovel and shut up".
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 12:01:46 AM EDT
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these groups are going to be single biggest problem for CBP, the military, for the GOP and for trump. US troops have enough training and discipline to exercise some restraint. one pack for militia shitbirds opens fire on these immigrants, refugees, invades, whatever you decide to call them and this turns into the PR nightmare of the century for the GOP. I'm also genuinely curious to see how the cartels react if they really do clamp down on the border, people gonna get paid and people gonna get shot.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 12:03:10 AM EDT
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All Ranch Rescue demonstrated is that the law is completely fucked. I'm worried that if something doesn't start to change on the border people who live there will be teetering over the edge of "shoot, shovel and shut up".
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Ranch Rescue operated a Militia on private property across the Southwest and USBP considered them a pain in the ass. Also they got into legal trouble.
All Ranch Rescue demonstrated is that the law is completely fucked. I'm worried that if something doesn't start to change on the border people who live there will be teetering over the edge of "shoot, shovel and shut up".
The laws and situations are clearly fucked up. We have a military that isn't assigned to secure the border is laughable. Border security isn't just a LE matter. But the facts are the facts. The laws will be used against the residents and "militias".
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 12:03:21 AM EDT
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All Ranch Rescue demonstrated is that the law is completely fucked. I'm worried that if something doesn't start to change on the border people who live there will be teetering over the edge of "shoot, shovel and shut up".
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Ranch Rescue operated a Militia on private property across the Southwest and USBP considered them a pain in the ass. Also they got into legal trouble.
All Ranch Rescue demonstrated is that the law is completely fucked. I'm worried that if something doesn't start to change on the border people who live there will be teetering over the edge of "shoot, shovel and shut up".
Hypothetically mind you "I'll have a coke."
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 12:05:09 AM EDT
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Join date, post whore count.  Shut up.
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They have drones

Link Posted: 11/5/2018 12:13:35 AM EDT
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Join date, post whore count.  Shut up.
Finally some one noticed somebody that lives in the Falfurrias area.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 12:25:23 AM EDT
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They should require a family of American “supporters” sponsor each asylum seeker and inform them that if the applicant misses their hearing the sponsors get deported to the applicants country of origin, in their place...
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 1:22:14 AM EDT
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There is a provision for that.  My employer sponsored the owner of GenCo in the RGV and the owner of GenCo is Canadian.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 1:26:05 AM EDT
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Fuck 'em. They are no longer eligible for asylum, and are a band of marauding armed criminals at this point. The adults chose to be a part of this, I don't care what happens to them. I just hope no children are hurt.
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You mean like armed Americans shooting unarmed women and children who are surrendering to apply for asylum? Or, maybe lining them up after they surrender to summarily execute them? What do you think the limits are?
Illegally crossing the border is a federal misdemeanor. So, let's compare. A person commits a misdemeanor if he jaywalks across a street from a crosswalk. Is it OK for armed Americans to use firearms to stop someone from illegally walking across the street, away from a designated crosswalk? Or, maybe shoot them or even just take them into custody under force of arms? Just like a police traffic officer doesn't want John Q. Public to come out and start enforcing (interfering with police) misdemeanor (or even felony) traffic laws, the Border Patrol doesn't want a bunch of armed civilians coming out and getting in the way of their enforcement on the border. It could easily get confusing if they spot an armed group of unidentified men walking around in the dark in the middle of the night where armed smugglers and others have been caught and arrested in the past. Armed civilians aren't going to have any more leeway to make arrests or detain suspected illegal aliens than the 5,000 unarmed military personnel being deployed to assist the Border Patrol in administrative, logistical roles. They're just going to get in the way and distract the Border Patrol from doing it's job.
lol

Fuck 'em. They are no longer eligible for asylum, and are a band of marauding armed criminals at this point. The adults chose to be a part of this, I don't care what happens to them. I just hope no children are hurt.
Once a few lines of them are gunned down with a gatling gun I bet the rest will think twice about entering.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 1:57:56 AM EDT
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I can custom make a kydex medium sized fries holster for you for about $199.95
For only $50 more it will hold supersized.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 2:09:04 AM EDT
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Im sure there are one or two in that unruly mob that I would like to sponsor into my home, with the caveat that she only wears things from Fredericks of Hollywood catalogs and feeds me tacos.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 3:00:18 AM EDT
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I live just south of the Falfurrias Checkpoint.

Militias are not welcome.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 3:48:45 AM EDT
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I live just south of the Falfurrias Checkpoint.

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That does not surprise me, Law enforcement never wants civilians around when something is going down, that is normal.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 4:15:18 AM EDT
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That does not surprise me, Law enforcement never wants civilians around when something is going down, that is normal.
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I live just south of the Falfurrias Checkpoint.

Militias are not welcome.
That does not surprise me, Law enforcement never wants civilians around when something is going down, that is normal.
Read my previous posts in this thread. You’re wrong, we all carry firearms as ranchers.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 4:19:30 AM EDT
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Hey, I read all your posts with great anticipation, but I also know how the BP is up here in Montana on the Border, I hunt that border line all the time, but we don't have the problems you guys do, most of the time it is a couple of guys trying to smuggle something across the border, I watch two guys during bow hunting season carrying a couple of duffles across from Canada and yup they were full of weed.  They were happy I let them know.  They don't want a bunch of militia around here much.

We all carry guns up here as well, not a big deal.

I don't quite understand how I am wrong,  They don't give us guys trouble that they know, but they don't want groups of armed guys running around.

I was not saying anything bad about BP people.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 4:30:41 AM EDT
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That does not surprise me, Law enforcement never wants other civilians around when something is going down, that is normal.
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Link Posted: 11/5/2018 4:32:16 AM EDT
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You guys took my message way wrong...

Link Posted: 11/5/2018 4:37:15 AM EDT
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as much as some of you might hate militias on the border, that caravan is coming, knowing American militias are on the border
and knowing they are not there with open arms to welcome them

aside from the fact that they can fuck this all up for us, more than anything because the MSM painted it a certain way
anything we can do to crush the confidence of the thousands in the caravan is a huge help, and is damn near one of the best things we can be doing to stop them
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 4:42:21 AM EDT
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Yeah, fuck people who put the spirit of the Second Amendment into practice. What a bunch of assholes, all those people gathered together with legally owned firearms to act in the name of a common cause. Losers, all of them. No exceptions.

*rubs face in tired exasperation*
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are self appointed Captain cupcake and Major Marshmellow going to lead in thier XXXL digicam?

Militia are the biggest group of posers and douche bags. I am sure the oath keeper and III% tards will be there also.
Yeah, fuck people who put the spirit of the Second Amendment into practice. What a bunch of assholes, all those people gathered together with legally owned firearms to act in the name of a common cause. Losers, all of them. No exceptions.

*rubs face in tired exasperation*
Name one useful thing militias have done in th last 20 years to actually help their community?

They run around like a bunch of jackasses complaining about "muh rights". I never see them actually lift a finger to help any group of people in need.

The latest example I remember was last month with the hurricane in FL there was a group arrested with guns, beer, and porn providing "security" but were intimidating home owners and got the sheriff called and arrested.

so yeah go to the border and prove once again how retarded militias are.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 6:28:42 AM EDT
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What is truly sad here, is those mother fucking democrats praise that horde of criminals like they're angels and look at these militia guys protecting our country like pieces of shit.
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Link Posted: 11/5/2018 7:14:59 AM EDT
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One of the unrecognized privileges and immunities of American citizenship is the right to bear arms, and the attached social and legal responsibility of serving as a member of the militia. Organized or not, we citizens are the militia, not just the dressed up guys with YouTube videos.

Now, as for the border invasion, that can be handled by a defense in depth. The military on the border to interdict the invaders, the border patrol to question, sort and legally dispose of them, and the armed civilians further in to observe and report infiltrators and escapees.

We CCW holders normally carry guns for self protection, but we also protect others by placing ourselves between the danger and the innocent population going about their daily lives simply by our presence.

If some wish to go toward the border to do so, I applaud their selflessness.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 7:56:25 AM EDT
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I support the militias going. If they want to donate their time, they should report to whatever agency and follow their directions. Building fences, passing out water, tents, etc.

They may be clowns, wannabes, etc but I feel like the majority have their heart in the right place and need direction to be effective at the border.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 10:21:15 AM EDT
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I support the militias going. If they want to donate their time, they should report to whatever agency and follow their directions. Building fences, passing out water, tents, etc.

They may be clowns, wannabes, etc but I feel like the majority have their heart in the right place and need direction to be effective at the border.
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you actually think the wannabe door kicker militia members would do that?
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 11:44:00 AM EDT
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These 'tards could always come down and help.

Link Posted: 11/5/2018 2:13:40 PM EDT
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Pirkle: I live just south of the Falfurrias Checkpoint.
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You might not welcome them, but the Mexican Cartel militias already control the border.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 9:43:38 PM EDT
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Wouldn't that be the sh*t if Trump confiscated Pelosi and other big land holding dems property for "refugee camps" Could he do it under the NDAA???
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We should greet them with nice busses and take them straight to Nancy Pelosi's California vineyard, maybe send a few to Bernie's summer home since it is his third and only used a few months out of the year.
Wouldn't that be the sh*t if Trump confiscated Pelosi and other big land holding dems property for "refugee camps" Could he do it under the NDAA???
Eminent Domain.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 9:51:16 PM EDT
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Hypothetically mind you "I'll have a coke."
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Ranch Rescue operated a Militia on private property across the Southwest and USBP considered them a pain in the ass. Also they got into legal trouble.
All Ranch Rescue demonstrated is that the law is completely fucked. I'm worried that if something doesn't start to change on the border people who live there will be teetering over the edge of "shoot, shovel and shut up".
Hypothetically mind you "I'll have a coke."
I’m feeling the same way.
In fact I’d have a Coke if this was common practice.

Too much of my blood,sweat and tears from years of busting my ass to make a living given away to invaders.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 11:33:30 PM EDT
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US militia patrolling the Mexico border in Texas

https://www.rt.com/usa/443159-caravan-militia-vigilante-washington-post/
Link Posted: 11/6/2018 12:10:33 AM EDT
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@PirkleYou might not welcome them, but the Mexican Cartel militias already control the border.
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Pirkle: I live just south of the Falfurrias Checkpoint.
Militias are not welcome.
You might not welcome them, but the Mexican Cartel militias already control the border.
I live down here don’t tell me who controls what.  I know BP is understaffed amongst other things, locals are bribed, but this shit was set in place when Obama was in office.

In 2014 I reported a group of 60 around my house to BP.  That was when DACA started.

I will take the Texas Border Volunteers over militias any day.
Link Posted: 11/8/2018 7:40:42 PM EDT
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Pirkle: I live down here don’t tell me who controls what.  I know BP is understaffed amongst other things, locals are bribed, but this shit was set in place when Obama was in office.
In 2014 I reported a group of 60 around my house to BP.  That was when DACA started.
I will take the Texas Border Volunteers over militias any day.
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Well you people sure as shit don't control it because there are twenty million illegal border crossers in this country.  What have you done to protect your countrymen?  Why didn't Texas Border Volunteers force the derelict federal government's hand?  How are Texans an ally?
Link Posted: 11/8/2018 7:50:49 PM EDT
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There is a legal process for the President and the Congress to call forth the militia.  Acting outside that process may be illegal.  Do not be surprised if the federal government comes down like a sledge hammer on Americans who take matters into their own hands while at the very same time abetting enemies of the republic.

I believe the republic currently languishes under a rebellion, insurrection, invasion, and attack from foreign powers as well.  I encourage the President to acknowledge this and to legally call out the militia.
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Stave Governors call up Militias not Presidents per say.
Link Posted: 11/8/2018 7:55:49 PM EDT
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No longer eligible for asylum. It has been offered, and refused. They are a mob with just enough women and children for photo ops. They are assaulting mexican police and security.
Fuck them.
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You mean like armed Americans shooting unarmed women and children who are surrendering to apply for asylum? Or, maybe lining them up after they surrender to summarily execute them? What do you think the limits are?
Illegally crossing the border is a federal misdemeanor. So, let's compare. A person commits a misdemeanor if he jaywalks across a street from a crosswalk. Is it OK for armed Americans to use firearms to stop someone from illegally walking across the street, away from a designated crosswalk? Or, maybe shoot them or even just take them into custody under force of arms? Just like a police traffic officer doesn't want John Q. Public to come out and start enforcing (interfering with police) misdemeanor (or even felony) traffic laws, the Border Patrol doesn't want a bunch of armed civilians coming out and getting in the way of their enforcement on the border. It could easily get confusing if they spot an armed group of unidentified men walking around in the dark in the middle of the night where armed smugglers and others have been caught and arrested in the past. Armed civilians aren't going to have any more leeway to make arrests or detain suspected illegal aliens than the 5,000 unarmed military personnel being deployed to assist the Border Patrol in administrative, logistical roles. They're just going to get in the way and distract the Border Patrol from doing it's job.
No longer eligible for asylum. It has been offered, and refused. They are a mob with just enough women and children for photo ops. They are assaulting mexican police and security.
Fuck them.
Don't stop his derp. He is on a roll.
Link Posted: 11/8/2018 8:52:05 PM EDT
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Yeremyahu: There is a legal process for the President and the Congress to call forth the militia.  Acting outside that process may be illegal.  Do not be surprised if the federal government comes down like a sledge hammer on Americans who take matters into their own hands while at the very same time abetting enemies of the republic.
I believe the republic currently languishes under a rebellion, insurrection, invasion, and attack from foreign powers as well.  I encourage the President to acknowledge this and to legally call out the militia.

Badlatitude: Stave Governors call up Militias not Presidents per say.
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That in all cases where insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combinations, or conspiracies in any State shall so obstruct or hinder the execution of the laws thereof, and of the United States as to deprive any portion or class of the people of such State of any of the rights, privileges, or immunities, or protection, named in the Constitution and secured by this act, and the constituted authorities of such State shall either be unable to protect, or shall, from any cause, fail in or reuse protection of the people in such rights, such facts shall be deemed a denial by such State of the equal protection of the laws to which they are entitled under the Constitution of the United States; and in all such cases, or whenever any such insurrection, violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy shall oppose or obstruct the laws of the United States or the due course of justice under the same, it shall be lawful for the President, and it shall be his duty to take such measures, by the employment of the militia or the land and naval forces of the United States, or of either, or by other means, as he may deem necessary for the suppression of such insurrection, domestic violence, or combinations; and any person who shall be arrested under the provisions of this and the preceding section shall be delivered to the marshal of the proper district, to be dealt with according to law.
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That whenever in any State or part of a State the unlawful combinations named in the preceding section of this act shall be organized and armed, and so numerous and powerful as to be able, by violence, to either overthrow or set at defiance the constituted authorities of such State, and of the United States within such State, or when the constituted authorities are in complicity with, or shall connive at the unlawful purposes of, such powerful and armed combinations; and whenever, by reason of either or all of the causes aforesaid, the conviction of such offenders and the preservation of the public safety shall become in such district impracticable, in every such case such combinations shall be deemed a rebellion against the government of the United States, and during the continuance of such rebellion, and within the limits of the district which shall be so under the sway thereof, such limits to be prescribed by proclamation, it shall be lawful for the President of the United States, when in his judgment the public safety shall require it, to suspend the privileges of the writ of habeas corpus, to the end that such rebellion may be overthrown


Legally, I  think it could go either way.  Legally, I don't think the Founding Fathers, the Sons of Liberty, or the Minutemen cared.
Link Posted: 11/8/2018 10:26:59 PM EDT
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I love this picture Jack Hoffman looking dude with a Barska 10-40x scope (a scope would be useless) and with a bipod.  Engagements in the brush will be at 5-25 yards.
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You mean like armed Americans shooting unarmed women and children who are surrendering to apply for asylum? Or, maybe lining them up after they surrender to summarily execute them? What do you think the limits are?
Illegally crossing the border is a federal misdemeanor. So, let's compare. A person commits a misdemeanor if he jaywalks across a street from a crosswalk. Is it OK for armed Americans to use firearms to stop someone from illegally walking across the street, away from a designated crosswalk? Or, maybe shoot them or even just take them into custody under force of arms? Just like a police traffic officer doesn't want John Q. Public to come out and start enforcing (interfering with police) misdemeanor (or even felony) traffic laws, the Border Patrol doesn't want a bunch of armed civilians coming out and getting in the way of their enforcement on the border. It could easily get confusing if they spot an armed group of unidentified men walking around in the dark in the middle of the night where armed smugglers and others have been caught and arrested in the past. Armed civilians aren't going to have any more leeway to make arrests or detain suspected illegal aliens than the 5,000 unarmed military personnel being deployed to assist the Border Patrol in administrative, logistical roles. They're just going to get in the way and distract the Border Patrol from doing it's job.
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This coward is certainly not my countryman. Shame on you sir.
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@PirkleWell you people sure as shit don't control it because there are twenty million illegal border crossers in this country.  What have you done to protect your countrymen?  Why didn't Texas Border Volunteers force the derelict federal government's hand?  How are Texans an ally?
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Pirkle: I live down here don’t tell me who controls what.  I know BP is understaffed amongst other things, locals are bribed, but this shit was set in place when Obama was in office.
In 2014 I reported a group of 60 around my house to BP.  That was when DACA started.
I will take the Texas Border Volunteers over militias any day.
Well you people sure as shit don't control it because there are twenty million illegal border crossers in this country.  What have you done to protect your countrymen?  Why didn't Texas Border Volunteers force the derelict federal government's hand?  How are Texans an ally?
I don't live on the border but 50 miles away.  These illegals are crossing illegally then giving up 2500 were apprehended in the RGV sector last weekend alone.  For the most part they are not making it to my area because of failed policies that they just don't get processed properly because the Federal government has screwed up for years.  Texas has stepped in with our National Guard and State Troopers.  The Texas Border Volunteers are headed by the guy in the photo from the article in the OP.  Here is a picture of Doctor Mike Vickers yesterday I took while he was working on a deer on the tailgate of my pickup.

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I don't live on the border but 50 miles away.  These illegals are crossing illegally then giving up 2500 were apprehended in the RGV sector last weekend alone.  For the most part they are not making it to my area because of failed policies that they just don't get processed properly because the Federal government has screwed up for years.  Texas has stepped in with our National Guard and State Troopers.  The Texas Border Volunteers are headed by the guy in the photo from the article in the OP.  Here is a picture of Doctor Mike Vickers yesterday I took while he was working on a deer on the tailgate of my pickup.

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Pirkle: I live down here don’t tell me who controls what.  I know BP is understaffed amongst other things, locals are bribed, but this shit was set in place when Obama was in office.
In 2014 I reported a group of 60 around my house to BP.  That was when DACA started.
I will take the Texas Border Volunteers over militias any day.
Well you people sure as shit don't control it because there are twenty million illegal border crossers in this country.  What have you done to protect your countrymen?  Why didn't Texas Border Volunteers force the derelict federal government's hand?  How are Texans an ally?
I don't live on the border but 50 miles away.  These illegals are crossing illegally then giving up 2500 were apprehended in the RGV sector last weekend alone.  For the most part they are not making it to my area because of failed policies that they just don't get processed properly because the Federal government has screwed up for years.  Texas has stepped in with our National Guard and State Troopers.  The Texas Border Volunteers are headed by the guy in the photo from the article in the OP.  Here is a picture of Doctor Mike Vickers yesterday I took while he was working on a deer on the tailgate of my pickup.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/340403/34CA1A9E-8BF1-4377-AEA7-8CF9613C68C1_jpeg-732675.JPG

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did them savages try to break its leg and eat it alive?
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Pirkle: I live down here don’t tell me who controls what.  I know BP is understaffed amongst other things, locals are bribed, but this shit was set in place when Obama was in office.
In 2014 I reported a group of 60 around my house to BP.  That was when DACA started.
I will take the Texas Border Volunteers over militias any day.
Well you people sure as shit don't control it because there are twenty million illegal border crossers in this country.  What have you done to protect your countrymen?  Why didn't Texas Border Volunteers force the derelict federal government's hand?  How are Texans an ally?
I don't live on the border but 50 miles away.  These illegals are crossing illegally then giving up 2500 were apprehended in the RGV sector last weekend alone.  For the most part they are not making it to my area because of failed policies that they just don't get processed properly because the Federal government has screwed up for years.  Texas has stepped in with our National Guard and State Troopers.  The Texas Border Volunteers are headed by the guy in the photo from the article in the OP.  Here is a picture of Doctor Mike Vickers yesterday I took while he was working on a deer on the tailgate of my pickup.

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did them savages try to break its leg and eat it alive?
No she broke her own leg and they were taking the cast off.  Vickers is my veterinarian.  More details in this thread.  Link to thread.
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