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Posted: 12/15/2020 11:47:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWell done. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 11:47:28 AM EDT
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Quote Historydo you have a news letter I can subscribe to? |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 11:49:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RonGonzo: Well done. Well, it's up +10.1% since I posted that. I know it will fluctuate but still, a good day! |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 11:49:53 AM EDT
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Jeez, this MVIS... I finally broke down and sold a little bit at 3.65 earlier this morning and now it looks like it might keep climbing. I put in another order to sell more at 3.92 just in case, but I have a sinking feeling that I'm screwing up. I dunno, but stonks gotta come back down at some point too, right?
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Posted: 12/15/2020 11:50:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mdw: do you have a news letter I can subscribe to? Buy MVIS, and one other stock that does down when it goes up, but not as much. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 11:50:49 AM EDT
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This volume is amazing. Triple witching, front-running or euphoria?
Read this morning we're still over 12% short, which sort of makes me believe this isn't front running. No idea why, but the shorts have always been in control on this share, and it's difficult to believe that's changed. Somebody borrowed 300K shares this morning...you don't do that on a guess  I'd love to be wrong. Almost any announcement right now would be a bloodbath. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 11:51:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Layer60]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M82Assault: I think we're all confused Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M82Assault: Originally Posted By Layer60: I'm that fella and I still don't understand their reasoning. I made right at $30,000 on that trade, as they are near worthless options this morning. I effectively spent $0 to do that. So... if I did it wrong, I hope I keep doing it wrong. I think we're all confused Someone paid me $1 / share on 30,000 shares (300 Put contracts) for the option to sell me the shares for $3 on Dec 18th. I can cover those same contracts this morning for $0.075 / share. By the 18th, if the share price is > $3, the contracts expire and I keep the entire $1 / share, or $30,000. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 11:52:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Layer60]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: This volume is amazing. Triple witching, front-running or euphoria? Read this morning we're still over 12% short, which sort of makes me believe this isn't front running. No idea why, but the shorts have always been in control on this share, and it's difficult to believe that's changed. Somebody borrowed 300K shares this morning...you don't do that on a guess I'd love to be wrong. Almost any announcement right now would be a bloodbath. There is one exception to that last part, but it would still be a bloodbath for the shorts. I believe it's front running. I don't necessarily believe that the next announcement will be "We reached a deal!" but I think they're very close. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:00:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Layer60: There is one exception to that last part, but it would still be a bloodbath for the shorts. I believe it's front running. I don't necessarily believe that the next announcement will be "We reached a deal!" but I think they're very close. Congrats Layer60, glad to see you doing so well. There are (at least) two guys on this board who are approaching seven figures this morning...if they're not already over. I have a 10K sell order in at $4.00, and I'm seriously thinking about pulling it. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:01:21 PM EDT
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lighten up the drag and give 'er some line. Let 'er run!
$3.86 |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:02:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EOTWAWKI: Buy MVIS, and one other stock that does down when it goes up, but not as much. I bought a hand full of mvis in the 1.90 range I'm just using pocket change I can afford to lose trying to learn the system I'm up a couple hundred bucks as of now so thats exciting  |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:02:05 PM EDT
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I sold about 15% of my holdings at 3.65. You're welcome.
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:03:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: Congrats Layer60, glad to see you doing so well. There are (at least) two guys on this board who are approaching seven figures this morning...if they're not already over. I have a 10K sell order in at $4.00, and I'm seriously thinking about pulling it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: Originally Posted By Layer60: There is one exception to that last part, but it would still be a bloodbath for the shorts. I believe it's front running. I don't necessarily believe that the next announcement will be "We reached a deal!" but I think they're very close. Congrats Layer60, glad to see you doing so well. There are (at least) two guys on this board who are approaching seven figures this morning...if they're not already over. I have a 10K sell order in at $4.00, and I'm seriously thinking about pulling it. I wouldn't even know about the stock if it weren't for you. I'll gladly send you a bottle of something nice, if you would like! |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:06:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Layer60: I wouldn't even know about the stock if it weren't for you. I'll gladly send you a bottle of something nice, if you would like! I second that! Albeit, when I sell.... |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:07:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM-ARM-DPMS-guns: I second that! Albeit, when I sell.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM-ARM-DPMS-guns: Originally Posted By Layer60: I wouldn't even know about the stock if it weren't for you. I'll gladly send you a bottle of something nice, if you would like! I second that! Albeit, when I sell.... I'll send it now. If it went to zero, I would still be up over $100k on just that stock, since this all began. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:10:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Osprey61]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Layer60: I wouldn't even know about the stock if it weren't for you. I'll gladly send you a bottle of something nice, if you would like! Thanks, but I'd be happy if you'd drop a bag of Purina off at your local animal shelter  ...after you sell. As my wife reminds me almost daily, the bank doesn't take paper returns! ETA: lol, beat! |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:21:53 PM EDT
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Fuck me, over
I'm starting to wonder if it's front running as well. This ain't natural for a Tuesday morning three days prior to witching. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:22:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BM-ARM-DPMS-guns]
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Originally Posted By Layer60: I'll send it now. If it went to zero, I would still be up over $100k on just that stock, since this all began. I haven't been smart enough to do the buy/sell/buy thing. Just bought when it seemed right. But, it's 160k shares so I'm kind of committed
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:22:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:24:21 PM EDT
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damn is this going to go from $3 to $4 in day?
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:28:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM-ARM-DPMS-guns: I haven't been smart enough to do the buy/sell/buy thing. Just bought when it seemed right. But, it's 160k shares so I'm kind of committed Dammmnnnn. How's it feel to make $120K in one morning? 
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:28:53 PM EDT
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We're inching closer to the $4 mark, better make up your mind @Osprey61 .
I wish they would announce something. Based off of the valuation of the other LIDAR companies, the perception is that MVIS is losing the LIDAR war. I'm to believe that MVIS has a superior product, why isn't Sharma screaming that shit from the rooftops? |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:31:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CajunMojo: We're inching closer to the $4 mark, better make up your mind @Osprey61 . I'm to believe that MVIS has a superior product, why isn't Sharma screaming that shit from the rooftops? Because they don't need to would be my guess. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:32:24 PM EDT
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WTF??? The California Retirement System bought 270K shares this morning. Okay, that's it, I'm officially petrified.
Also, traditionally institutions like that don't go in until the $5 level. Wonder what prompted that move. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:33:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KaiK]
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Quote HistoryThat's a good amount of hookers and blow. Not moon lambo money yet.
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:34:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Osprey61: Dammmnnnn. How's it feel to make $120K in one morning? Sweet! |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:36:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: WTF??? The California Retirement System bought 270K shares this morning. Okay, that's it, I'm officially petrified. Also, traditionally institutions like that don't go in until the $5 level. Wonder what prompted that move. Yea that’s a surprising move. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:36:52 PM EDT
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I have an extra $237 dollars today any recommendations? For a small time flip
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:38:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tornadochaser: Because they don't need to would be my guess. Yep, the quiet is actually kind of reassuring to me. If Sharma was carnival barking I'd be a lot less confident. Wonder if Ford is going to take the LIDAR vertical off the table? They have an ad up on BrassRing for an AV "partner" specialist, or some such title. |
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MA, USA
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:40:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CajunMojo: We're inching closer to the $4 mark, better make up your mind @Osprey61 . I wish they would announce something. Based off of the valuation of the other LIDAR companies, the perception is that MVIS is losing the LIDAR war. I'm to believe that MVIS has a superior product, why isn't Sharma screaming that shit from the rooftops? Isn't MVIS working on military displays? I would guess they aren't allowed to completely spill the beans on performance. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:44:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Admiral_Crunch]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: WTF??? The California Retirement System bought 270K shares this morning. Okay, that's it, I'm officially petrified. Also, traditionally institutions like that don't go in until the $5 level. Wonder what prompted that move. Some guy in charge of their portfolio is an Arfcommer. 
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:49:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: Fuck me, over I'm starting to wonder if it's front running as well. This ain't natural for a Tuesday morning three days prior to witching. What are front running and witching? Explain as you would to a child. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:54:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: What are front running and witching? Explain as you would to a child. front running - someone who KNOWS that a deal is imminent tells a friend who tells a friend who tells a friend and they all start quietly buying up stock. Quiet doesn't last and price starts quickly ascending. Witching - last hour of trading on the day when options expire and folks are moving to close them out, either buying or selling large blocks |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 12:56:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FunYun1983: Isn't MVIS working on military displays? I would guess they aren't allowed to completely spill the beans on performance. Microsoft (the people selling H2 with MVIS inside) advanced MVIS $10M on that contract. MVIS has to "pay back" that money out of what they're getting in royalties before they see a dime in "profit". Still a good ways off...like $8.5M or so. The IVAS (that's the mil acronym for H2) budget that looks set to go through is about $960M for 2021, and over a billion in 2022, so we got that going for us. Microsoft has to watch the bidding for the NED very closely - not sure how long the contract extends, but if they haven't found a better light engine by that point (and the optical engineers say a better mouse trap is still several years off) a competitor could seriously step on their neck. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 1:02:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rollin-tumblin: front running - someone who KNOWS that a deal is imminent tells a friend who tells a friend who tells a friend and they all start quietly buying up stock. Quiet doesn't last and price starts quickly ascending. Witching - last hour of trading on the day when options expire and folks are moving to close them out, either buying or selling large blocks  |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 1:05:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: WTF??? The California Retirement System bought 270K shares this morning. Okay, that's it, I'm officially petrified. Also, traditionally institutions like that don't go in until the $5 level. Wonder what prompted that move. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 1:07:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slabertooch: Off to buy $5 calls... How does this call thing work? |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 1:13:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: And this is triple witching. Lazy, cut and paste from Investopedia... "Triple witching is the quarterly expiration of stock options, stock index futures, and stock index option contracts all on the same day. Triple witching happens four times a year: on the third Friday of March, June, September, and December." |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 1:21:04 PM EDT
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Twenty-five million shares. Gonna be very interesting when Wall and Broad gets back from lunch in another hour or so.
The California Retirement thing has me intrigued. Silicon Valley, and the tech monsters, are right there...if someone is going to cheat "for the greater good" (i.e., to protect their wife's teachers retirement) that's an ideal spot for it to happen. That kind of 'tute doesn't do a lot of wild speculating, as a general rule. They're more the dividend paying, Proctor and Gamble kind of people. Unless of course they're absolutely retched with money and extremely reckless. Oh yea, that's right...the California Public Employees Retirement System. 
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Posted: 12/15/2020 1:23:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: Twenty-five million shares. Gonna be very interesting when Wall and Broad gets back from lunch in another hour or so. The California Retirement thing has me intrigued. Silicon Valley, and the tech monsters, are right there...if someone is going to cheat "for the greater good" (i.e., to protect their wife's teachers retirement) that's an ideal spot for it to happen. That kind of 'tute doesn't do a lot of wild speculating, as a general rule. They're more the dividend paying, Proctor and Gamble kind of people. Unless of course they're absolutely retched with money and extremely reckless. Oh yea, that's right...the California Public Employees Retirement System. They could always have a small percentage set aside for speculating or higher-risk stuff. But that does seem like an odd place for a big buy to come from. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 1:23:54 PM EDT
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Holy balls dudes...
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Posted: 12/15/2020 1:25:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: They could always have a small percentage set aside for speculating or higher-risk stuff. But that does seem like an odd place for a big buy to come from. How does a person learn where buys are coming from? |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 1:26:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Admiral_Crunch]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: Fuck me, over I'm starting to wonder if it's front running as well. This ain't natural for a Tuesday morning three days prior to witching. "Hey, MVIS went up. I wonder if some people know something we don't know? Better buy some." *stock goes up* "Hey, MVIS went up. I wonder if some people know something we don't know? Better buy some." *stock goes up* "Hey, MVIS went up. I wonder if some people know something we don't know? Better buy some." *stock goes up*  |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 1:30:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Osprey61]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: "Hey, MVIS went up. I wonder if some people know something we don't know? Better buy some." *stock goes up* "Hey, MVIS went up. I wonder if some people know something we don't know? Better buy some." *stock goes up* "Hey, MVIS went up. I wonder if some people know something we don't know? Better buy some." *stock goes up* Yep, it's a perfect illustration of the "indians gathering firewood" circular flow when it's based on no external news. And this morning, to the best of my knowledge, nothing has changed. That's why the CPERS (Cali) buy fascinates me. Hell of a roll of the bones for people who are supposed to be conservatively curating money. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 1:36:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Admiral_Crunch]
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Goddamn. If I sold everything right now, along with the gains from prior sales, I'd have made enough on MVIS to pay for my truck.
 Of course, that's before taxes. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 1:44:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: Goddamn. If I sold everything right now, along with the gains from prior sales, I'd have made enough on MVIS to pay for my truck. Of course, that's before taxes. Right now... But think how excited we may be after the bell, or even better yet, Friday’s bell. 
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Posted: 12/15/2020 1:46:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: Goddamn. If I sold everything right now, along with the gains from prior sales, I'd have made enough on MVIS to pay for my truck. Of course, that's before taxes. One of the TA gurus on Reddit is warning everyone short interest is still above 12% (that's 12% of the entire float - over one tenth of all the existing shares), and somebody borrowed like 700K shares a little while ago. This will dip on no news, so it's not a bad point to take some profit if you're so inclined. Never hit my sell point, so I'll probably stand pat, but I'm mostly playing with free money (ACB still sub-one dollar). |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 1:54:51 PM EDT
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Hold onto your seats, the Rollercoaster has hit its peak
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Posted: 12/15/2020 2:03:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mak_380]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goodasgone81: Hold onto your seats, the Rollercoaster has hit its peak That's what I thought yesterday. Today proved that was not correct. What will tomorrow bring? New car money? Chicken feed? Magic 8 ball says: Outlook uncertain! 
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Posted: 12/15/2020 2:17:02 PM EDT
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Its small change compared to some of the gains here, but I've enjoyed making (on paper) $1,200-ish a day this week so far.
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