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Spaking of Anatolia and prehistoric ruins the wall of Ruad, A Sea wall, said to have been built by the Phoenicians over a thousand years before they developed a written language, strikes me as being built by the same people who built the foundations of Baalbek, in Lebanon. Lebanon is where the Phoenicians seem to have come from.
First minute of this video gives you a sense of scale and erosion, maybe some signs of the same cutting technique. Do not vouch for his theories. Failed To Load Title good video on the Phoenicians Who are the Phoenicians people? wiki on the island https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arwad wiki on the Phoenicians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicia |
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Originally Posted By waterglass:
Not saying this is how it was done but: Imagine what you could do with something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyFMexBTpLs and this, protip, mute this, the music is bad and the demonstration is visual. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igMI0GxATUI plus gears and timed chains. If you had copper, you could make some stuff that explains everything except the material of the cutting devices. View Quote I will cross of Heron's Fountain (second video) as it converts gravity into pressure, and can't run forever, especially if energy is removed from the system. Very tall and large versions perfectly designed will run for a while, but not forever. It's a 'gravity power' system that uses weight of water falling to pull a vacuum, renewing the process, but with only enough efficiency to keep itself moving for a while. There have been many 'perpetual motion' attempts, and some can run a long time, weeks or more, by using gravity to "store" in one way or another. Most of it is wasted as work to push the water higher than the vacuum it pulled when it fell, the more started with/larger reservoirs, the longer it will run. There have also been many fraud perpetual motion machines. Some get close, but never meet or exceed 100% efficiency, so any power taken from the system by using it for an "engine" would stop the motion. Heat and gravity have been used throughout history for energy, the weather on Earth is due to the heat from the sun. Elevators need only moderate sized power as a huge weight falls at the same rate the car lis lifted, a bit of gravity assist to fight gravity. Garage doors are easier to open when the force of gravity pulling the door down during closing is stored as potential energy in springs to make the door seem lighter, which is how a small motor, under a horsepower, can lift a 250 lb+ door in seconds. Everywhere there are clever ideas, which seem obvious once looked at, but magic at first glance, sort of like magician shows themselves. These few processes, and many more could have been employed throughout history, even with a relatively weak steam engine, if scaled up enough and on single point bearings could provide extra "free" energy by only sunlight and keeping a fire lit. It could assist people in accomplishing a task, the same way springs assist people in opening a garage door with one hand. We do know that ingenious ideas were employed by the layout of some sites existing to start with, actual square corners, flat surfaces, rectangular layouts, etc. To say that some devices were "discovered" by Romans "advanced technology" is a bit naive. Humans couldn't have existed in a state of nothing up to Rome appearing and then they were magically brilliant. It has more to do with written records surviving to be passed to the future. Experiment logs and demonstration devices are said to have been "Invented" by Xxxxx. I think it is more accurate to say "Documented well by Xxxxx". The idea of Scholars, well educated Centurions, and many other 'enlightened' aspects of Rome which made it powerful were products of similar attempts by earlier groups. Look at the United States, we didn't invent republics or democracy, only employed it a bit differently, and correctly, for long enough, to prove the advantages we've seen in our explosive technology advancement in the first 150 years, as well as the downsides we are currently seeing by attempting to remove the republic part and change to Mob Rule. over the past century, one slowed while the other increase. Sort of like.. Rome. Carbon dating has proved fallible in many ways, only being correct in some specific cases. If other methods are available, such as tree ring history, then that is used to 'calibrate' the carbon decay that is measured. It's a similar way to assume the geology/weather/conditions have been the same throughout the history of Earth, to make a linear fit and come up with an Exact number for age. There are a ton of articles about it, 'mistakes' and the downfalls. How to improve and change are discussed many times, and it would seem some of those improvements have been changing the model to show a random artifact is as old as they want it to tell them they think it is, rather than seeing what it says, and checking agreement. All metals/valuables would have been stolen by other people/tribes throughout history while they were still above ground. Disease likely wiped many groups off the map, infection rates increase rapidly with population density, and the concept of hygiene and illness were really only recent. a tribe could come across a civilization who had a few creative people that built something, which sparked more ideas, which then were expounded on, like the technology explosion in the US after electricity was in a usable form in the past century. A whole lot got built without electricity, including the rifles, pistols, and cannons for the US civil war, firearms across the world for hundreds of years, exquisitely crafted items, all before advanced steels were alloyed. Most anything done prior to 1800, laying all the groundwork for the period since, could have also been done by many other "primitive" civilizations without magic. animal power was likely used forever, as animal drawn plows are mentioned n most written history, there's no reason they couldn't have been used in other areas for power with simple gadgets consisting of levers and wheels/pulleys, also known for thousands of years. Likely not as efficient, compact, or portable as we see today, but the wheel is as old as history itself, from the first person that saw some shapes of rocks rolled down hills, while other shapes wouldn't. Very long rambling post, but my point is many of these theories stating "This could have only been done with a lathe, which would have had electricity and electric motors" is a crazy assumption, treadle powered lathes have existed since before Rome. That same trait of assuming what we have today is the only way things could have been done, the weather today is how the weather is and always should be (*cough* global warming *cough*), carbon decay is a perfect science, and many other examples are "Bad Science". It doesn't mean it's 100% wrong, but basing an entire theory on electric lathes existing, when we have proof of treadle powered lathes in museums, is a bit naive. About as naive as insisting the first version of 'how it was done' is taught as doctrine, causing any new data or ideas to be instantly discarded. Examine what is found, mute the video and look at what is there, think of what is required, think of what we absolutely know was easily available to them, from fire to water wheels to animal power, as well as wooden technology (marble machines, lathes, many others) which could have been made at any time in some other, less efficient, form. Then read/see a few different 'explanations' of 'How it was done'. They rarely say 'this may have been done this way', often it's "This could have only been done by.." then using that statement to generalize the rest. All archeologists tend to do that, which I find humorous. Hence, I like this thread, there are thousands of other possibilities before we get to Aliens. However, MH370 has had all causes eliminated except for the dragon eating it, so that's what happened. Prove me wrong. |
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Originally Posted By waterglass:
Spaking of Anatolia and prehistoric ruins the wall of Ruad, A Sea wall, said to have been built by the Phoenicians over a thousand years before they developed a written language, strikes me as being built by the same people who built the foundations of Baalbek, in Lebanon. Lebanon is where the Phoenicians seem to have come from. First minute of this video gives you a sense of scale and erosion, maybe some signs of the same cutting technique. Do not vouch for his theories. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kUmMCOd74w good video on the Phoenicians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnxptwZSEVA wiki on the island https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arwad wiki on the Phoenicians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicia View Quote Theory of Phoenician discovery of the Americas THE PHOENICIANS AND THE ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS OF AMERICA Considering the Atlantic ocean's streams, they might have made it even if by accident. Not sure whether they made it back. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By waterglass:
I dunno about the whole sunburst thing. I say that in light of this video which shows melting and heat used to fit and finish stonework in Cusco. I do not vouch for any thing this guy says other than 1)heat was used to finish and fit the stones 2)They are much older (not suggesting 12,000 years older, but much older than 600 years) than the Incan empire because you can see where the inca rebuilt them and reused the stone in inferior mortared walls. This guy does the best videos in Peru. If anyone has better video please share them, I love seeing the ancient stonework, not just Peruvian but everywhere. @Alacrity Do you think they might have used some type of mixture of volcanic sulfur and other chemicals? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fYGdx_Se1Q View Quote The cuts could nto be more casual than this. The fitting on the left has an indentation and the one on the right a very small one. Like someone said "oops... the boulders did not match well" and then "no problems, just match them on the next layer". Attached File Same on this. A straight angle fitting immediately followed by a curved fitting. Hard to be more casual than this and less planning on the cuts. Attached File Whoever did this could manipulate granite like butter with a hot knife. |
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Originally Posted By brass:
That's where a 'glitch' is. The rocks were shaped far more accurately, that is clear. If they were melted into place, our made from a slurry like concrete or any method like that, the chunks would be much larger or not have seams at all. If they could selectively melt rock in place, the seams would be fused. The absolute conformity of the rocks in these structures around the world is the puzzler, uniform color and texture relative to other walls made from rock in the area. No cracks in the placed rock, chosen and fit very carefully. Those flat gaps are flat and matched (doubly hard), where the surfaces meet to within paper thickness (~1/128") along the length on all sides. Similar work seen at several sites around the world. With Wood, 1/16" is good for framing work, unless fine woodwork creation, then 32nds. If they had "Far Advanced technology", why didn't they make the facing of the rock all match? If they had the ability to fit them, you'd think they'd have made faces flat (Egypt did in areas), angled, or some other ornamentation. That seems odd. Has a broken wall been examined to see if they have interlocking "tabs" on the rocks, like a rabbit joint so no mortar is needed? Did they resort to making as flat as possible because they couldn't produce a "stone glue"? In short, I don't know what means or methods they used to do it, but the methods weren't any more advanced than we currently have for making walls from natural stone, with lots of petience even with diamond blades on power saws, forklifts, etc. Have any tests been attempted to shape or mould granite in a kiln by somebody interested in these things? Have any samples of that fitted rock been properly analyzed for content, inclusions, grain, and the other details that define rock, or is all identification made by what's seen on the surfaces? That said, there could have been a lot more population that we are told existed pre-historic, worshiping stone, with agriculture developed to the point many full time masons could work on those walls and buildings for generations. That does create the need to have that many people free. Hunting/Gathering didn't allow for much free time, and cultivated farming along with supporting infrastructure is something we're told didn't exist. I don't know how it's known it didn't exist, "They were all barbarian tribes', etc. etc. These Ancient Technology/Alien guys haven't done those tests, and seem to not want to, or even to try to re-create using modern tools, a sample wall that matches. I know a guy did a stone henge type pi of 3 rocks with one horizontal on top thing in his backyard with wood, levers, pulleys and rope. There was a documentary on it on YouTube somewhere. We don't know everything about Earth, especially the oceans, and our own history, it all goes fuzzy once you get to the "Dark Ages", and then it's highly selective due to languages and choice of what to preserve / reprint /study. I'd like to know more, but it's to the point where if an academic paper even looks at "Ancient stonework", they're laughed at because of all these theories pushed. How do we know the bones they're attributing to dinosaurs weren't actually their tamed dragon stonemasons? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By waterglass:
I dunno about the whole sunburst thing. I say that in light of this video which shows melting and heat used to fit and finish stonework in Cusco. I do not vouch for any thing this guy says other than 1)heat was used to finish and fit the stones 2)They are much older (not suggesting 12,000 years older, but much older than 600 years) than the Incan empire because you can see where the inca rebuilt them and reused the stone in inferior mortared walls. This guy does the best videos in Peru. If anyone has better video please share them, I love seeing the ancient stonework, not just Peruvian but everywhere. @Alacrity Do you think they might have used some type of mixture of volcanic sulfur and other chemicals? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOx-6qOKxkg If they were melted into place, our made from a slurry like concrete or any method like that, the chunks would be much larger or not have seams at all. If they could selectively melt rock in place, the seams would be fused. The absolute conformity of the rocks in these structures around the world is the puzzler, uniform color and texture relative to other walls made from rock in the area. No cracks in the placed rock, chosen and fit very carefully. Those flat gaps are flat and matched (doubly hard), where the surfaces meet to within paper thickness (~1/128") along the length on all sides. Similar work seen at several sites around the world. With Wood, 1/16" is good for framing work, unless fine woodwork creation, then 32nds. If they had "Far Advanced technology", why didn't they make the facing of the rock all match? If they had the ability to fit them, you'd think they'd have made faces flat (Egypt did in areas), angled, or some other ornamentation. That seems odd. Has a broken wall been examined to see if they have interlocking "tabs" on the rocks, like a rabbit joint so no mortar is needed? Did they resort to making as flat as possible because they couldn't produce a "stone glue"? In short, I don't know what means or methods they used to do it, but the methods weren't any more advanced than we currently have for making walls from natural stone, with lots of petience even with diamond blades on power saws, forklifts, etc. Have any tests been attempted to shape or mould granite in a kiln by somebody interested in these things? Have any samples of that fitted rock been properly analyzed for content, inclusions, grain, and the other details that define rock, or is all identification made by what's seen on the surfaces? That said, there could have been a lot more population that we are told existed pre-historic, worshiping stone, with agriculture developed to the point many full time masons could work on those walls and buildings for generations. That does create the need to have that many people free. Hunting/Gathering didn't allow for much free time, and cultivated farming along with supporting infrastructure is something we're told didn't exist. I don't know how it's known it didn't exist, "They were all barbarian tribes', etc. etc. These Ancient Technology/Alien guys haven't done those tests, and seem to not want to, or even to try to re-create using modern tools, a sample wall that matches. I know a guy did a stone henge type pi of 3 rocks with one horizontal on top thing in his backyard with wood, levers, pulleys and rope. There was a documentary on it on YouTube somewhere. We don't know everything about Earth, especially the oceans, and our own history, it all goes fuzzy once you get to the "Dark Ages", and then it's highly selective due to languages and choice of what to preserve / reprint /study. I'd like to know more, but it's to the point where if an academic paper even looks at "Ancient stonework", they're laughed at because of all these theories pushed. How do we know the bones they're attributing to dinosaurs weren't actually their tamed dragon stonemasons? |
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Originally Posted By RIO-lover:
Interesting video shows "saw marks" in stone as well as bore holes (starting at 10:55 in the video) seemingly made by a modern type of concrete bore hole bit similar to this one https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61cWe%2BF73cL._SX425_.jpg. At the 6:10 minute mark in the video, they show in the Cairo Museum, some interesting "gear" looking devices suggesting that maybe they had some type of machine for what ever purpose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX0FJoSUK90 View Quote |
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Originally Posted By deputyrpa:
This engineer ties in lost civilizations, Ice Ages, pole shifts and the uses and ages of megalithic structures into one nifty theory of multiple poles. He asked himself the simple question: Why is there an ice sheet on Greenland, yet no other land masses in the arctic circle at that latitude do? Answer: Greenland was the north pole long ago. In fact, there were 5 north poles during man's megolithic building eras. Interesting theory based upon mathematics. Lost Civilizations: Greenland, the Geo Pole, and Ice Ages (Part I) View Quote |
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Interesting movie.
The author busts a claim made by Russians explorers while making an interesting one about two species. Failed To Load Title Shows why we need to be quite careful about what we find online. |
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Originally Posted By Rossi:
Interesting movie. The author busts a claim made by Russians explorers while making an interesting one about two species. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpEZkVGkkjI Shows why we need to be quite careful about what we find online. View Quote I don't agree with some of his conclusions only because I've never looked into that particular aspect details, I'm more technology related about cool things that existed, spoke about in histories, then 'lost' for hundreds of years before re-appearing as 'new'. Since I haven't really heard of his exact theory in the video, I can't comment on if it's correct, but I don't see any glaring logic flaws or leaps of judgement. When you never stop learning, people start to label you "paranoid" or a geek for staying busy learning instead of other leisure activities. It's been made a social crime to not go to parties, watch TV, movies, etc. Reason I say that is I have NO clue what movie was shown in the middle. I've gone to 3 movies in a theater since y2k, and not many in the past decade are even good, simple and direct plots, everything is comedy, so I suppose I like Idiocracy, which seems more like a laid out plan for the future instead of a comedy. I think that's the most recent movie I thought was good, but for different reasons than other people think its a good movie. There's that whole paranoid freak geek coming through again. |
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Originally Posted By Rossi:
Interesting movie. The author busts a claim made by Russians explorers while making an interesting one about two species. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpEZkVGkkjI Shows why we need to be quite careful about what we find online. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By HEATSEAKER: I'm of the belief that the man made elongated skulls found throughout the world and still practiced in Africa were an attempt to recreate or at least mimic a legendary extinct species of man who had natural coneheads and higher status/intelligence. Oral folklore can get passed down for thousands of years. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Rossi:
Interesting movie. The author busts a claim made by Russians explorers while making an interesting one about two species. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpEZkVGkkjI Shows why we need to be quite careful about what we find online. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Loremsk:
I've come to a similar conclusion. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Loremsk:
Originally Posted By HEATSEAKER: I'm of the belief that the man made elongated skulls found throughout the world and still practiced in Africa were an attempt to recreate or at least mimic a legendary extinct species of man who had natural coneheads and higher status/intelligence. Oral folklore can get passed down for thousands of years. |
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" Declaratory statement oooozing conviction, written a long time ago." - Little Known Famous Dead Guy. Chiron is not a crime.
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Originally Posted By brass: The first 15 minutes summarizes my outlook very well, in a succinct way. Don't think learning is something to only do while at a school. Live and learn is a state of mind many people follow, always learning new info, connecting dots, or storing it for later. Everybody is capable of that, but they don't apply it, since TV/Movies/etc are more interesting. I'm continually entertained by my own thoughts, or solving a problem. There are many I've thought about as plausible, a few are pretty glaring truths when seen, but can't be understooed without walking down a similar path. I'm walking on a parallel or even the the same path as that author is. I don't agree with some of his conclusions only because I've never looked into that particular aspect details, I'm more technology related about cool things that existed, spoke about in histories, then 'lost' for hundreds of years before re-appearing as 'new'. Since I haven't really heard of his exact theory in the video, I can't comment on if it's correct, but I don't see any glaring logic flaws or leaps of judgement. When you never stop learning, people start to label you "paranoid" or a geek for staying busy learning instead of other leisure activities. It's been made a social crime to not go to parties, watch TV, movies, etc. Reason I say that is I have NO clue what movie was shown in the middle. I've gone to 3 movies in a theater since y2k, and not many in the past decade are even good, simple and direct plots, everything is comedy, so I suppose I like Idiocracy, which seems more like a laid out plan for the future instead of a comedy. I think that's the most recent movie I thought was good, but for different reasons than other people think its a good movie. There's that whole paranoid freak geek coming through again. View Quote Originally Posted By HEATSEAKER:
I'm of the belief that the man made elongated skulls found throughout the world and still practiced in Africa were an attempt to recreate or at least mimic a legendary extinct species of man who had natural coneheads and higher status/intelligence. Oral folklore can get passed down for thousands of years. View Quote Originally Posted By Loremsk:
I've come to a similar conclusion. View Quote In this case, clearly where's there's smoke, there's fire. |
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Originally Posted By waterglass:
coneheads run the world? Someone wants to sell a book on Coast to Coast AM. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By waterglass:
Originally Posted By Rossi:
Interesting movie. The author busts a claim made by Russians explorers while making an interesting one about two species. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpEZkVGkkjI Shows why we need to be quite careful about what we find online. Nevertheless, it's interesting that there isn't more evidence about them. Maybe whoever fought them wanted their traces wiped out? Not uncommon even in more recent History. |
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Originally Posted By Loremsk:
I've come to a similar conclusion. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Loremsk:
Originally Posted By HEATSEAKER: I'm of the belief that the man made elongated skulls found throughout the world and still practiced in Africa were an attempt to recreate or at least mimic a legendary extinct species of man who had natural coneheads and higher status/intelligence. Oral folklore can get passed down for thousands of years. |
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Originally Posted By wakeboarder:
Originally Posted By Loremsk:
Originally Posted By HEATSEAKER: I'm of the belief that the man made elongated skulls found throughout the world and still practiced in Africa were an attempt to recreate or at least mimic a legendary extinct species of man who had natural coneheads and higher status/intelligence. Oral folklore can get passed down for thousands of years. |
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Originally Posted By Loremsk:
Is that supposed to be a personal insult? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Loremsk:
Originally Posted By wakeboarder:
Originally Posted By Loremsk:
Originally Posted By HEATSEAKER: I'm of the belief that the man made elongated skulls found throughout the world and still practiced in Africa were an attempt to recreate or at least mimic a legendary extinct species of man who had natural coneheads and higher status/intelligence. Oral folklore can get passed down for thousands of years. |
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Originally Posted By waterglass:
coneheads run the world? Someone wants to sell a book on Coast to Coast AM. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By waterglass:
Originally Posted By Rossi:
Interesting movie. The author busts a claim made by Russians explorers while making an interesting one about two species. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpEZkVGkkjI Shows why we need to be quite careful about what we find online. --ETA: Exist, yes, there's absolute proof and DNA mixes not currently seen, from more than 1 continent. Run the world? I don't know, I've never looked into any of it, as I stated earlier. People tend to mimic things they see as "better", which would cause the "head binding" to be an attempt to mimic something they saw as 'better', to improve by appearance. Why would a cheap eBay item have the exact same design/layout/appearance as an item that costs 20x as much, but still function as something worth less, most of the price is put into presentation/enclosure design than the functional bits. Mimicking appearance is still common today when you look around, from visual appearance to phrasing, the reason they're better is still assumed to be the appearance and layout above all else. |
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Not trying to be an asshole last night, I had a long post typed up to reply to that video and friggen deleted it by accident, and then I was rushed by events to make my comment brief.
The fellow used a lack of a sagittal suture All that a lack of a sagittal Suture on a skull means is that the person the skull belong to was old. The average human skull doesn't completely fuse until around 30, but the process doesn't stop there, eventually the sagittal suture closes completely and is overgrown by flat bone mass after age 60. This process is called Suture obliteration, and it is a commonly used way to age a skeleton. The nerve ducts on the back of the skull is also common in humans. ETA Observation Deck doesn't mention the ducts as proof of biological coneheads, but forester does. He says only the paracas skulls have them, but that is not true. ____________________ Granted the most elegant solution for more brain mass without needing women to evolve to be larger than males is an elongated skull. Skull circumference size at birth is dictated by birth tract size. There is two ways for bigger brains, bigger women with bigger birth canals to allow skulls with a larger circumference or a skull shape that will accommodate more brain matter and still fits through a standard sized females vagina. A "conehead" shaped skull would require the least physiological change. __________ I find Foerster's work very interesting, and I am looking forward to the crowdfunded DNA results that will come out in the next month or so. But he complained himself about having to work for a " large benefactor" to produce the result that pointed to european origins. He also consistently makes false statements that disregard basic information about suture obliteration and the nerve holes. for these reasons I am not sure about the DNA results his work has produced ___________________ The inca bones, the placement of the spine, the fewer teeth, those are legit strange. Keep in mind no one has ever compared Paracas Skulls to ones found in Crimea or Egypt. As far as I know, there isn't even pictures of them to compare. King Tuts head is weird looking though, but it still has skin on it. the fact that the coronal sutures seem to always be on the bone ridge above what I assume was their foreheads and the sagittal seems to be completely obliterated is very strange. _______________________ The Guy in this video, if you can stand to listen to him, covers some of the problems with Foerster. He has links below the video if you go to youtube. It doesn't explain some of the weird aspects of the paracas skulls, but it does prove that Foerster is no expert on human phrenology. Or is intentionally misleading. Science VS the Aliens of Peru! Episode 4: Skull sutures and parietal foramen |
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The long narrow faces, large eyes, thin long necks, strange neck to head angles and elongated heads found in Egyptian art does suggest elongated skulls. but one has to keep in mind that early Egyptian kings wore beehive crowns. They wore beehive crowns because honey was a sacred substance and the king was considered the head bee keeper. If the statues with elongated heads were once adorned with cloth hats in the shape of a beehive the obvious reason the head of the statue was elongated was to act as support for the hat.
I believe it is said that King tuts head was genetic. So that does suggest elongated skulls were a natural thing among the kings of Egypt. They also married brother to sister and father to daughter, which causes all kinds of defects. I do not think head binding was a thing the Egyptians did. |
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" Declaratory statement oooozing conviction, written a long time ago." - Little Known Famous Dead Guy. Chiron is not a crime.
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I have a theory for head binding, it is a hold over from when people were nomads. They would literally tie kids into bundles and secure their heads with wood to keep them from hurting themselves, or being hurt by being carried. The neck had to be immobilized and to do that the head had to be held rigid in a frame. This caused skulls to be shaped by the bindings, over time they adopted a shape that would be uniform in order to mark themselves as belonging to a tribe. This was held over when nomads settled.
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" Declaratory statement oooozing conviction, written a long time ago." - Little Known Famous Dead Guy. Chiron is not a crime.
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Originally Posted By Rossi:
I did not understand he said they "ran the world". He was only saying that the DNA samples and tests showed that there's a completely different species present. Nevertheless, it's interesting that there isn't more evidence about them. Maybe whoever fought them wanted their traces wiped out? Not uncommon even in more recent History. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rossi:
Originally Posted By waterglass:
Originally Posted By Rossi:
Interesting movie. The author busts a claim made by Russians explorers while making an interesting one about two species. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpEZkVGkkjI Shows why we need to be quite careful about what we find online. Nevertheless, it's interesting that there isn't more evidence about them. Maybe whoever fought them wanted their traces wiped out? Not uncommon even in more recent History. the guy in the vid built up his credibility by debunking the Russian vid, then used Brian Foerster pointing out some oddities of the Paracas Skulls, and the DNA evidence he got from them to credit the implied existence of elongated skulls in Crimea and Egypt pointed to a place called Tartaria and proof of a race of beings with biologically elongated heads with superior intellect from that region. Then the guy in the video showed some old paintings of French noble women with elongated skulls to prove tartarians existed into modern times. Then he quoted some banker as proof that the tartarians are running the world today from the shadows. The huns, a nomadic horse people, had elongated heads due to head binding but he doesn't mention that, and that is important. French Noble women had elongated skulls because the Hun did and the hun did because they practiced head binding. When the hun took over the region they became the new aristocracy, and it was considered a sign of high birth to bind womens heads as proof of their direct lineage from the hun to suitors. Now I have never seen any elongated hun skulls, or any from the French. So they could be biological. but until I do see some, and they look like the ones found in paracas I figure it is unlikely. Considering how little is known of the Hunnic folks, who can say? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns there is also no pictures of elongated Egyptian or Crimean skulls to compare. My theory on nomads and headbinding can be seen above. Sorry for breaking the posts up, reduces the risk of my dumb ass deleting one long one. This is the guy who funded the DNA testing Brian Foerster took part in, and to be fair to Foerster, the History channel did its own testing using a different lab from the ones he did and got the same result. It was for the ancient aliens show however, and I see no reason to trust anything related to that show, or the people who profit from it. Non the less here it is. Failed To Load Title the ancient aliens bit jibes the paracas skulls with the igenea stuff from the discovery channel clip below. Ancient Aliens: Elongated Skull's Origins (Season 12, Episode 6) | History |
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Here you can see an unknown Egyptian nobles skull from around the time of King Tut, they say it is tuts dad, but they were all kinds of inbred so who knows. The film crew does seem to make an effort to hide it, but you can see the skull is deformed, and the Coronal suture is on top of weird shelf sort of like the paracas skulls.
I spent a long time looking for Egyptian king and noble skulls, this is all I could find. King Tut Unwrapped: Pharaoh Forensics Linkd below are the y dna results that came as a result of the same show according to these people trying to sell their DNA testing wares. So far as I know no complete spec of Tuts Y information has ever formally been published besides the Discovery channel clip use by igenea, which no longer seems to exist. both the igenea and official reactions to it seem to be horseshit. But considering the Egyptians were clearly Caucasian according to their art, and DNA, it is possible, I guess. http://www.eutimes.net/2010/06/king-tuts-dna-is-western-european/ https://www.igenea.com/en/tutankhamun wiki on the race of ancient Egypt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_race_controversy |
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Originally Posted By waterglass: didn't mean to get snarky on you. the guy in the vid built up his credibility by debunking the Russian vid, then used Brian Foerster pointing out some oddities of the Paracas Skulls, and the DNA evidence he got from them to credit the implied existence of elongated skulls in Crimea and Egypt pointed to a place called Tartaria and proof of a race of beings with biologically elongated heads with superior intellect from that region. Then the guy in the video showed some old paintings of French noble women with elongated skulls to prove tartarians existed into modern times. Then he quoted some banker as proof that the tartarians are running the world today from the shadows. The huns, a nomadic horse people, had elongated heads due to head binding but he doesn't mention that, and that is important. French Noble women had elongated skulls because the Hun did and the hun did because they practiced head binding. When the hun took over the region they became the new aristocracy, and it was considered a sign of high birth to bind womens heads as proof of their direct lineage from the hun to suitors. Now I have never seen any elongated hun skulls, or any from the French. So they could be biological. but until I do see some, and they look like the ones found in paracas I figure it is unlikely. Considering how little is known of the Hunnic folks, who can say? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns there is also no pictures of elongated Egyptian or Crimean skulls to compare. My theory on nomads and headbinding can be seen above. Sorry for breaking the posts up, reduces the risk of my dumb ass deleting one long one. This is the guy who funded the DNA testing Brian Foerster took part in, and to be fair to Foerster, the History channel did its own testing using a different lab from the ones he did and got the same result. It was for the ancient aliens show however, and I see no reason to trust anything related to that show, or the people who profit from it. Non the less here it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgnGr-H8PA0 the ancient aliens bit jibes the paracas skulls with the igenea stuff from the discovery channel clip below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfOxC1GtV5A View Quote Many jump to a theory and try to fine only proof that supports their theory, including "real" archeologists. View all the info gathered that is public info, from many sources (Public ≠ "easily found") . Ignore the theory or ideas of why. Put the facts together from both debunking stories and the "new proof I was right", look at things which are factual and real info, look for fakes, as he did with the Peru underwater off coast of Russia. That info usually has to be wrapped in a "bigger Theory" way to get people interested to watch it, ignore that part and lots can be learned. His theory may not be exact, but the raw data such as DNA testing, Russia faking Peru, locations of stonework, looting, etc. all fit in with the other information we've talked about in this thread. IOW, Don't pick out one part you don't believe in or don't like to debunk ALL of it. If I state something incorrectly, it may be I didn't have enough info to make the right guess at the time. That doesn't make everything I've said in my entire life untrue. Keep mind open to new ideas, try to disprove ALL aspects before saying it's ALL junk. The videos tell us far more factual information/photos than we ever hear from "Real Archeologists". Why would that be? Why is it if a person doesn't agree with "real archeologists" on something, they're 'blacklisted' from that entire group? If things are facts, why are they documented, but never mentioned? Add peices together and see what makes any sense at all. Finally, why do you state they are "Nomadic"? Nomadic tribes don't typically build towns and monuments to whichever God they believe in. |
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Originally Posted By brass:
The theory of their exact job/purpose/intelligence may not be correct, that's spitballing. Everything up to the rulers/etc is good information, especially looking at all of the evidence. Many jump to a theory and try to fine only proof that supports their theory, including "real" archeologists. View all the info gathered that is public info, from many sources (Public ≠ "easily found") . Ignore the theory or ideas of why. Put the facts together from both debunking stories and the "new proof I was right", look at things which are factual and real info, look for fakes, as he did with the Peru underwater off coast of Russia. That info usually has to be wrapped in a "bigger Theory" way to get people interested to watch it, ignore that part and lots can be learned. His theory may not be exact, but the raw data such as DNA testing, Russia faking Peru, locations of stonework, looting, etc. all fit in with the other information we've talked about in this thread. IOW, Don't pick out one part you don't believe in or don't like to debunk ALL of it. If I state something incorrectly, it may be I didn't have enough info to make the right guess at the time. That doesn't make everything I've said in my entire life untrue. Keep mind open to new ideas, try to disprove ALL aspects before saying it's ALL junk. The videos tell us far more factual information/photos than we ever hear from "Real Archeologists". Why would that be? Why is it if a person doesn't agree with "real archeologists" on something, they're 'blacklisted' from that entire group? If things are facts, why are they documented, but never mentioned? Add peices together and see what makes any sense at all. Finally, why do you state they are "Nomadic"? Nomadic tribes don't typically build towns and monuments to whichever God they believe in. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By waterglass: didn't mean to get snarky on you. the guy in the vid built up his credibility by debunking the Russian vid, then used Brian Foerster pointing out some oddities of the Paracas Skulls, and the DNA evidence he got from them to credit the implied existence of elongated skulls in Crimea and Egypt pointed to a place called Tartaria and proof of a race of beings with biologically elongated heads with superior intellect from that region. Then the guy in the video showed some old paintings of French noble women with elongated skulls to prove tartarians existed into modern times. Then he quoted some banker as proof that the tartarians are running the world today from the shadows. The huns, a nomadic horse people, had elongated heads due to head binding but he doesn't mention that, and that is important. French Noble women had elongated skulls because the Hun did and the hun did because they practiced head binding. When the hun took over the region they became the new aristocracy, and it was considered a sign of high birth to bind womens heads as proof of their direct lineage from the hun to suitors. Now I have never seen any elongated hun skulls, or any from the French. So they could be biological. but until I do see some, and they look like the ones found in paracas I figure it is unlikely. Considering how little is known of the Hunnic folks, who can say? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns there is also no pictures of elongated Egyptian or Crimean skulls to compare. My theory on nomads and headbinding can be seen above. Sorry for breaking the posts up, reduces the risk of my dumb ass deleting one long one. This is the guy who funded the DNA testing Brian Foerster took part in, and to be fair to Foerster, the History channel did its own testing using a different lab from the ones he did and got the same result. It was for the ancient aliens show however, and I see no reason to trust anything related to that show, or the people who profit from it. Non the less here it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgnGr-H8PA0 the ancient aliens bit jibes the paracas skulls with the igenea stuff from the discovery channel clip below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfOxC1GtV5A Many jump to a theory and try to fine only proof that supports their theory, including "real" archeologists. View all the info gathered that is public info, from many sources (Public ≠ "easily found") . Ignore the theory or ideas of why. Put the facts together from both debunking stories and the "new proof I was right", look at things which are factual and real info, look for fakes, as he did with the Peru underwater off coast of Russia. That info usually has to be wrapped in a "bigger Theory" way to get people interested to watch it, ignore that part and lots can be learned. His theory may not be exact, but the raw data such as DNA testing, Russia faking Peru, locations of stonework, looting, etc. all fit in with the other information we've talked about in this thread. IOW, Don't pick out one part you don't believe in or don't like to debunk ALL of it. If I state something incorrectly, it may be I didn't have enough info to make the right guess at the time. That doesn't make everything I've said in my entire life untrue. Keep mind open to new ideas, try to disprove ALL aspects before saying it's ALL junk. The videos tell us far more factual information/photos than we ever hear from "Real Archeologists". Why would that be? Why is it if a person doesn't agree with "real archeologists" on something, they're 'blacklisted' from that entire group? If things are facts, why are they documented, but never mentioned? Add peices together and see what makes any sense at all. Finally, why do you state they are "Nomadic"? Nomadic tribes don't typically build towns and monuments to whichever God they believe in. |
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Archaeology isn't sexy. Ask anyone with a masters or better in Egyptology what they think of Zahi Hawass.
Brass, get your ass on a plane and go to Egypt, not to prove or disprove or count coup in some bullshit internet thread. Do it because it will blow your mind. |
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Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Archaeology isn't sexy. Ask anyone with a masters or better in Egyptology what they think of Zahi Hawass. Brass, get your ass on a plane and go to Egypt, not to prove or disprove or count coup in some bullshit internet thread. Do it because it will blow your mind. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Archaeology isn't sexy. Ask anyone with a masters or better in Egyptology what they think of Zahi Hawass. Brass, get your ass on a plane and go to Egypt, not to prove or disprove or count coup in some bullshit internet thread. Do it because it will blow your mind. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Archaeology isn't sexy. Ask anyone with a masters or better in Egyptology what they think of Zahi Hawass. Brass, get your ass on a plane and go to Egypt, not to prove or disprove or count coup in some bullshit internet thread. Do it because it will blow your mind. I honestly don't know much, and I could afford to make those trips, I could do a lot neater stuff to help people here with an "all the trivia, rambling babble you'd like to hear, with cool demonstrations" skool. Somehow encourage everybody to learn, and have a personal reason to decide one more correct or closer to maybe the right thing than some other thing. Not just because "Teacher/Celebrity said it was". The latter is happening everywhere, how frequently do we see movie quotes posted on ARF? How about Names and quotes of TV Show characters, etc.? If everybody spent 1 hour each day instead of entertainment, try learning something, means way more than words form a teacher, learning how to learn would be a good start for many. Opening a dictionary, find a word they aren't familiar with, look at etymology of the word and look at the trades/areas/history it came from, we'd all be better off. Even searching for a YouTube video about calculus, or machining in the home shop, or woodworking, even basic repairs. Those are all things we should have at least a basic background in. I see this too much: Blond Treehorn Thug: [holding up a bowling ball] What the fuck is this? The Dude: Obviously you're not a golfer. |
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Interesting set of videos
The Great Temple of Heliopolis & the Pyramids of Egypt | Ancient Architects The Lost Ancient Egyptian Observatory of Letopolis | Ancient Architects |
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Was it really technology or just that they had an infinite amount of time.
Figure no commute, no tv, no video games, no internet. Wake up, eat, shit, work on stone for 20 hours a day, sleep 4 hours. Now, have 1,000 people and before you know it a lot can get done even by simply banging 2 rocks together. |
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Originally Posted By JThompson:
Was it really technology or just that they had an infinite amount of time. Figure no commute, no tv, no video games, no internet. Wake up, eat, shit, work on stone for 20 hours a day, sleep 4 hours. Now, have 1,000 people and before you know it a lot can get done even by simply banging 2 rocks together. View Quote |
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Was it really technology or just that they had an infinite amount of time. Figure no commute, no tv, no video games, no internet. Wake up, eat, shit, work on stone for 20 hours a day, sleep 4 hours. Now, have 1,000 people and before you know it a lot can get done even by simply banging 2 rocks together. View Quote I believe many had lathes, which would be simple to make once concept was known, maybe not high speed, screw thread making, engine lathes, but a rudimentary type run by foot power, look at YouTube on people making "get by lathes" for wood. Some are dead simple, while others try to re-create most parts of a modern lathe. It only has to spin a little bit so a rough rock can be correctly rubbed against whatever somebody is spinning, maybe have the "spin thingy to be changed" and the "hold rubbing stone at stable position" were two different basic machines set next to each other. Wonders could be made in only a couple weeks of that, vs a lifetime of never getting it perfect manually. Could have started out as making "round rocks" to use as rollers for moving heavy blocks, and once enough rollers were made, somebody wanted to try making a vase or whatever with it. This doesn't explain the megalithic structures which would smash even a high quality modern lathe with their weight. Go around it with tangents which get finer and finer, make an octagon, Offset the ropes and starting point by 33°, and do it twice more for something that looks very much spherical, the ridges could then be small and easily removed by hand. I also think "Knowledge is Power" has existed forever, hence the looting of dead cities with many things expected are missing. Groups still loot for info that will get them ahead to this day. Each country has probably collected a large amount of "secrets", we do not know the extent. It's almost as if they're giving us free porn and funny TV shows to watch is a way to stifle people from thinking about better ways of doing things, or keeping people from going apeshit crazy and killing somebody, is the solution worse than the issue itself? |
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Another interesting video from the same guy, this time about non meteoric Iron being found covering a vent that seems to have been put there by the builders of the great pyramid. Mainstream says the had copper.
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Speaking of Caucasians in weird places, like Mongolia 3,000 years ago.
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Originally Posted By waterglass:
Speaking of Caucasians in weird places, like Mongolia 3,000 years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdPlGdCwAk8 View Quote We, as well as our nearest genetic relatives, are some of the more resilient beings on this planet in regards to inhabiting various environments. Near as I can tell, wanderlust has always been a big thing as well. So, I'm not entirely shocked that there are discoveries of remains of one genetic variant outside of the traditional "ranges" |
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Originally Posted By waterglass:
Speaking of Caucasians in weird places, like Mongolia 3,000 years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdPlGdCwAk8 View Quote This one about fast magnetic flux screwing up compasses A sort of conspiracy/odd stuff site. Pole moving faster than ever before (in known history) - Phys.org Hard Science Physics Journal. Just like the video about the elongated heads. Teaching people to not learn what they weren't told to learn helps tell all the bits without telling them in a way where links can easily be drawn. Physics sites, archeological sites, history of early America and many other nations, each has a bit in it. The time is worth the bits of education you'll pick up, requiring learning a little bit of what's mentioned if you aren't familiar with it. To easily learn, I'm going to scare you: Go to Wikipedia, look up something you like or are interested in. Click on all wiki pages reference in article, and open all the journals which are online and referenced. Read the entire article and the cherry picking done by wiki editors is pretty obvious. That's learning several things at once after some detours and learning a bit more about everything. The more of "everything" you learn, the faster learning goes, but knowing "Everything" is impossible due to the fractured nature of various "Fields". When there aren't fractures, the documents are hidden behind $5/page paywalls to see. New releases are free, but some older ones require payment? Especially detailed papers from the field of archeology, the only free data is what the NYT says is in it. These practices strike me odd. Note: If you've noticed many typos lately, my keyboard is freaking out and putting random punctuation in, missing some letters/spaces, and generally annoying I try to correct all I can but something always escapes me. I don't normally look at screen or keyboard when typing, just a gestalt puke all over the post. |
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Originally Posted By brass:
Things like this are what is fascinating to me. I don't bother with the theories packaged to sell it, just the raw info and I'll connect dots myself. I like the videos that show actual things, from museum or an archaeological dig, or existing structures and estimated times. The one with pole moving does jive and matches what's been found in mineral deposits, where magnetic fields arent the same between two areas, which isn't really explained. This one about fast magnetic flux screwing up compasses A sort of conspiracy/odd stuff site. Pole moving faster than ever before (in known history) - Phys.org Hard Science Physics Journal. Just like the video about the elongated heads. Teaching people to not learn what they weren't told to learn helps tell all the bits without telling them in a way where links can easily be drawn. Physics sites, archeological sites, history of early America and many other nations, each has a bit in it. The time is worth the bits of education you'll pick up, requiring learning a little bit of what's mentioned if you aren't familiar with it. To easily learn, I'm going to scare you: Go to Wikipedia, look up something you like or are interested in. Click on all wiki pages reference in article, and open all the journals which are online and referenced. Read the entire article and the cherry picking done by wiki editors is pretty obvious. That's learning several things at once after some detours and learning a bit more about everything. The more of "everything" you learn, the faster learning goes, but knowing "Everything" is impossible due to the fractured nature of various "Fields". When there aren't fractures, the documents are hidden behind $5/page paywalls to see. New releases are free, but some older ones require payment? Especially detailed papers from the field of archeology, the only free data is what the NYT says is in it. These practices strike me odd. Note: If you've noticed many typos lately, my keyboard is freaking out and putting random punctuation in, missing some letters/spaces, and generally annoying I try to correct all I can but something always escapes me. I don't normally look at screen or keyboard when typing, just a gestalt puke all over the post. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By waterglass:
Speaking of Caucasians in weird places, like Mongolia 3,000 years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdPlGdCwAk8 This one about fast magnetic flux screwing up compasses A sort of conspiracy/odd stuff site. Pole moving faster than ever before (in known history) - Phys.org Hard Science Physics Journal. Just like the video about the elongated heads. Teaching people to not learn what they weren't told to learn helps tell all the bits without telling them in a way where links can easily be drawn. Physics sites, archeological sites, history of early America and many other nations, each has a bit in it. The time is worth the bits of education you'll pick up, requiring learning a little bit of what's mentioned if you aren't familiar with it. To easily learn, I'm going to scare you: Go to Wikipedia, look up something you like or are interested in. Click on all wiki pages reference in article, and open all the journals which are online and referenced. Read the entire article and the cherry picking done by wiki editors is pretty obvious. That's learning several things at once after some detours and learning a bit more about everything. The more of "everything" you learn, the faster learning goes, but knowing "Everything" is impossible due to the fractured nature of various "Fields". When there aren't fractures, the documents are hidden behind $5/page paywalls to see. New releases are free, but some older ones require payment? Especially detailed papers from the field of archeology, the only free data is what the NYT says is in it. These practices strike me odd. Note: If you've noticed many typos lately, my keyboard is freaking out and putting random punctuation in, missing some letters/spaces, and generally annoying I try to correct all I can but something always escapes me. I don't normally look at screen or keyboard when typing, just a gestalt puke all over the post. |
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Originally Posted By waterglass:
didn't mean to get snarky on you. the guy in the vid built up his credibility by debunking the Russian vid, then used Brian Foerster pointing out some oddities of the Paracas Skulls, and the DNA evidence he got from them to credit the implied existence of elongated skulls in Crimea and Egypt pointed to a place called Tartaria and proof of a race of beings with biologically elongated heads with superior intellect from that region. Then the guy in the video showed some old paintings of French noble women with elongated skulls to prove tartarians existed into modern times. Then he quoted some banker as proof that the tartarians are running the world today from the shadows. The huns, a nomadic horse people, had elongated heads due to head binding but he doesn't mention that, and that is important. French Noble women had elongated skulls because the Hun did and the hun did because they practiced head binding. When the hun took over the region they became the new aristocracy, and it was considered a sign of high birth to bind womens heads as proof of their direct lineage from the hun to suitors. Now I have never seen any elongated hun skulls, or any from the French. So they could be biological. but until I do see some, and they look like the ones found in paracas I figure it is unlikely. Considering how little is known of the Hunnic folks, who can say? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns there is also no pictures of elongated Egyptian or Crimean skulls to compare. My theory on nomads and headbinding can be seen above. Sorry for breaking the posts up, reduces the risk of my dumb ass deleting one long one. This is the guy who funded the DNA testing Brian Foerster took part in, and to be fair to Foerster, the History channel did its own testing using a different lab from the ones he did and got the same result. It was for the ancient aliens show however, and I see no reason to trust anything related to that show, or the people who profit from it. Non the less here it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgnGr-H8PA0 the ancient aliens bit jibes the paracas skulls with the igenea stuff from the discovery channel clip below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfOxC1GtV5A View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By waterglass:
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Originally Posted By waterglass:
Originally Posted By Rossi:
Interesting movie. The author busts a claim made by Russians explorers while making an interesting one about two species. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpEZkVGkkjI Shows why we need to be quite careful about what we find online. Nevertheless, it's interesting that there isn't more evidence about them. Maybe whoever fought them wanted their traces wiped out? Not uncommon even in more recent History. the guy in the vid built up his credibility by debunking the Russian vid, then used Brian Foerster pointing out some oddities of the Paracas Skulls, and the DNA evidence he got from them to credit the implied existence of elongated skulls in Crimea and Egypt pointed to a place called Tartaria and proof of a race of beings with biologically elongated heads with superior intellect from that region. Then the guy in the video showed some old paintings of French noble women with elongated skulls to prove tartarians existed into modern times. Then he quoted some banker as proof that the tartarians are running the world today from the shadows. The huns, a nomadic horse people, had elongated heads due to head binding but he doesn't mention that, and that is important. French Noble women had elongated skulls because the Hun did and the hun did because they practiced head binding. When the hun took over the region they became the new aristocracy, and it was considered a sign of high birth to bind womens heads as proof of their direct lineage from the hun to suitors. Now I have never seen any elongated hun skulls, or any from the French. So they could be biological. but until I do see some, and they look like the ones found in paracas I figure it is unlikely. Considering how little is known of the Hunnic folks, who can say? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns there is also no pictures of elongated Egyptian or Crimean skulls to compare. My theory on nomads and headbinding can be seen above. Sorry for breaking the posts up, reduces the risk of my dumb ass deleting one long one. This is the guy who funded the DNA testing Brian Foerster took part in, and to be fair to Foerster, the History channel did its own testing using a different lab from the ones he did and got the same result. It was for the ancient aliens show however, and I see no reason to trust anything related to that show, or the people who profit from it. Non the less here it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgnGr-H8PA0 the ancient aliens bit jibes the paracas skulls with the igenea stuff from the discovery channel clip below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfOxC1GtV5A I'll not argue that there can be cases of that. We are currently witnessing the "global warming" > "climate change" > "whatever" debacle where people questioning some of the mainstream info are blatantly shut down and chastised. That's not how (real) Science works. However, a lot of the issues he describes are most likely due to egos, refusal to recognize mistakes, ignorance and arrogance (both walk together) and plain incompetence. He sometimes seems to fall in that trap himself. Anyway, the two main things I took from his video were: 1) Russian's deception - confirms we need to take the stuff we find or is presented to us with grains of salt. 2) The DNA tests clearly show that there were (are?) competing human species competing until very recently. I filtered the rest since he himself presented it as speculation. There is no credible proof or evidence of that. And there's where he went on a tangent (if not crossed) the paranoia / conspiracy theory part. If those "elongated skull" people lived (apparently comfortably) among humans before, why suddenly bury themselves in Antarctica to "run the world"? Regarding 2, we also know of a global cataclysm that bottlenecked the DNA by almost wiping the human species from Earth. That has been demonstrated by combining geological and anthropological studies. Any civilization living in the wrong place and wrong time when it happened could have been completely wiped out, maybe without traces that we could find so far. There's where I agree with him that we must have an holistic approach when studying History. I do not agree that it does not happen because of "intentional agendas to hide stuff". It's just most scientists using a very myopic approach to their studies and views. As he said himself "believe nothing, question everything". |
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Originally Posted By brass:
The theory of their exact job/purpose/intelligence may not be correct, that's spitballing. Everything up to the rulers/etc is good information, especially looking at all of the evidence. Many jump to a theory and try to fine only proof that supports their theory, including "real" archeologists. View all the info gathered that is public info, from many sources (Public ≠ "easily found") . Ignore the theory or ideas of why. Put the facts together from both debunking stories and the "new proof I was right", look at things which are factual and real info, look for fakes, as he did with the Peru underwater off coast of Russia. That info usually has to be wrapped in a "bigger Theory" way to get people interested to watch it, ignore that part and lots can be learned. His theory may not be exact, but the raw data such as DNA testing, Russia faking Peru, locations of stonework, looting, etc. all fit in with the other information we've talked about in this thread. IOW, Don't pick out one part you don't believe in or don't like to debunk ALL of it. If I state something incorrectly, it may be I didn't have enough info to make the right guess at the time. That doesn't make everything I've said in my entire life untrue. Keep mind open to new ideas, try to disprove ALL aspects before saying it's ALL junk. The videos tell us far more factual information/photos than we ever hear from "Real Archeologists". Why would that be? Why is it if a person doesn't agree with "real archeologists" on something, they're 'blacklisted' from that entire group? If things are facts, why are they documented, but never mentioned? Add peices together and see what makes any sense at all. Finally, why do you state they are "Nomadic"? Nomadic tribes don't typically build towns and monuments to whichever God they believe in. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By waterglass: didn't mean to get snarky on you. the guy in the vid built up his credibility by debunking the Russian vid, then used Brian Foerster pointing out some oddities of the Paracas Skulls, and the DNA evidence he got from them to credit the implied existence of elongated skulls in Crimea and Egypt pointed to a place called Tartaria and proof of a race of beings with biologically elongated heads with superior intellect from that region. Then the guy in the video showed some old paintings of French noble women with elongated skulls to prove tartarians existed into modern times. Then he quoted some banker as proof that the tartarians are running the world today from the shadows. The huns, a nomadic horse people, had elongated heads due to head binding but he doesn't mention that, and that is important. French Noble women had elongated skulls because the Hun did and the hun did because they practiced head binding. When the hun took over the region they became the new aristocracy, and it was considered a sign of high birth to bind womens heads as proof of their direct lineage from the hun to suitors. Now I have never seen any elongated hun skulls, or any from the French. So they could be biological. but until I do see some, and they look like the ones found in paracas I figure it is unlikely. Considering how little is known of the Hunnic folks, who can say? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns there is also no pictures of elongated Egyptian or Crimean skulls to compare. My theory on nomads and headbinding can be seen above. Sorry for breaking the posts up, reduces the risk of my dumb ass deleting one long one. This is the guy who funded the DNA testing Brian Foerster took part in, and to be fair to Foerster, the History channel did its own testing using a different lab from the ones he did and got the same result. It was for the ancient aliens show however, and I see no reason to trust anything related to that show, or the people who profit from it. Non the less here it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgnGr-H8PA0 the ancient aliens bit jibes the paracas skulls with the igenea stuff from the discovery channel clip below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfOxC1GtV5A Many jump to a theory and try to fine only proof that supports their theory, including "real" archeologists. View all the info gathered that is public info, from many sources (Public ≠ "easily found") . Ignore the theory or ideas of why. Put the facts together from both debunking stories and the "new proof I was right", look at things which are factual and real info, look for fakes, as he did with the Peru underwater off coast of Russia. That info usually has to be wrapped in a "bigger Theory" way to get people interested to watch it, ignore that part and lots can be learned. His theory may not be exact, but the raw data such as DNA testing, Russia faking Peru, locations of stonework, looting, etc. all fit in with the other information we've talked about in this thread. IOW, Don't pick out one part you don't believe in or don't like to debunk ALL of it. If I state something incorrectly, it may be I didn't have enough info to make the right guess at the time. That doesn't make everything I've said in my entire life untrue. Keep mind open to new ideas, try to disprove ALL aspects before saying it's ALL junk. The videos tell us far more factual information/photos than we ever hear from "Real Archeologists". Why would that be? Why is it if a person doesn't agree with "real archeologists" on something, they're 'blacklisted' from that entire group? If things are facts, why are they documented, but never mentioned? Add peices together and see what makes any sense at all. Finally, why do you state they are "Nomadic"? Nomadic tribes don't typically build towns and monuments to whichever God they believe in. However, many people's egos (or other interests) prevent them from doing it. |
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A lot of people seem to focus on a theoretical meteor strike 12K years ago, but it has been pretty much proven that the bible story about sodom and gemorrah was about an air burst over the area, the melted stone and sulfur and glass is proof of it. That was 4000 years ago. 2-3000 years before that, one about the same size as the one that created the Greenland crater hit the indian ocean.
It always seemed to me that the plagues of Egypt were a description of the after effects of a meteor impact. I am less inclined to put a firm date on which stuff was built when. Any technology that requires a supply chain anywhere close to that kind of an impact is going to be lost, along with civilization. |
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Originally Posted By Rossi:
No worries. The video's author walks an almost borderline paranoia about "compartmentalization" of information being intentional to "hide stuff". I'll not argue that there can be cases of that. We are currently witnessing the "global warming" > "climate change" > "whatever" debacle where people questioning some of the mainstream info are blatantly shut down and chastised. That's not how (real) Science works. However, a lot of the issues he describes are most likely due to egos, refusal to recognize mistakes, ignorance and arrogance (both walk together) and plain incompetence. He sometimes seems to fall in that trap himself. Anyway, the two main things I took from his video were: 1) Russian's deception - confirms we need to take the stuff we find or is presented to us with grains of salt. 2) The DNA tests clearly show that there were (are?) competing human species competing until very recently. I filtered the rest since he himself presented it as speculation. There is no credible proof or evidence of that. And there's where he went on a tangent (if not crossed) the paranoia / conspiracy theory part. If those "elongated skull" people lived (apparently comfortably) among humans before, why suddenly bury themselves in Antarctica to "run the world"? Regarding 2, we also know of a global cataclysm that bottlenecked the DNA by almost wiping the human species from Earth. That has been demonstrated by combining geological and anthropological studies. Any civilization living in the wrong place and wrong time when it happened could have been completely wiped out, maybe without traces that we could find so far. There's where I agree with him that we must have an holistic approach when studying History. I do not agree that it does not happen because of "intentional agendas to hide stuff". It's just most scientists using a very myopic approach to their studies and views. As he said himself "believe nothing, question everything". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rossi:
Originally Posted By waterglass:
Originally Posted By Rossi:
Originally Posted By waterglass:
Originally Posted By Rossi:
Interesting movie. The author busts a claim made by Russians explorers while making an interesting one about two species. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpEZkVGkkjI Shows why we need to be quite careful about what we find online. Nevertheless, it's interesting that there isn't more evidence about them. Maybe whoever fought them wanted their traces wiped out? Not uncommon even in more recent History. the guy in the vid built up his credibility by debunking the Russian vid, then used Brian Foerster pointing out some oddities of the Paracas Skulls, and the DNA evidence he got from them to credit the implied existence of elongated skulls in Crimea and Egypt pointed to a place called Tartaria and proof of a race of beings with biologically elongated heads with superior intellect from that region. Then the guy in the video showed some old paintings of French noble women with elongated skulls to prove tartarians existed into modern times. Then he quoted some banker as proof that the tartarians are running the world today from the shadows. The huns, a nomadic horse people, had elongated heads due to head binding but he doesn't mention that, and that is important. French Noble women had elongated skulls because the Hun did and the hun did because they practiced head binding. When the hun took over the region they became the new aristocracy, and it was considered a sign of high birth to bind womens heads as proof of their direct lineage from the hun to suitors. Now I have never seen any elongated hun skulls, or any from the French. So they could be biological. but until I do see some, and they look like the ones found in paracas I figure it is unlikely. Considering how little is known of the Hunnic folks, who can say? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns there is also no pictures of elongated Egyptian or Crimean skulls to compare. My theory on nomads and headbinding can be seen above. Sorry for breaking the posts up, reduces the risk of my dumb ass deleting one long one. This is the guy who funded the DNA testing Brian Foerster took part in, and to be fair to Foerster, the History channel did its own testing using a different lab from the ones he did and got the same result. It was for the ancient aliens show however, and I see no reason to trust anything related to that show, or the people who profit from it. Non the less here it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgnGr-H8PA0 the ancient aliens bit jibes the paracas skulls with the igenea stuff from the discovery channel clip below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfOxC1GtV5A I'll not argue that there can be cases of that. We are currently witnessing the "global warming" > "climate change" > "whatever" debacle where people questioning some of the mainstream info are blatantly shut down and chastised. That's not how (real) Science works. However, a lot of the issues he describes are most likely due to egos, refusal to recognize mistakes, ignorance and arrogance (both walk together) and plain incompetence. He sometimes seems to fall in that trap himself. Anyway, the two main things I took from his video were: 1) Russian's deception - confirms we need to take the stuff we find or is presented to us with grains of salt. 2) The DNA tests clearly show that there were (are?) competing human species competing until very recently. I filtered the rest since he himself presented it as speculation. There is no credible proof or evidence of that. And there's where he went on a tangent (if not crossed) the paranoia / conspiracy theory part. If those "elongated skull" people lived (apparently comfortably) among humans before, why suddenly bury themselves in Antarctica to "run the world"? Regarding 2, we also know of a global cataclysm that bottlenecked the DNA by almost wiping the human species from Earth. That has been demonstrated by combining geological and anthropological studies. Any civilization living in the wrong place and wrong time when it happened could have been completely wiped out, maybe without traces that we could find so far. There's where I agree with him that we must have an holistic approach when studying History. I do not agree that it does not happen because of "intentional agendas to hide stuff". It's just most scientists using a very myopic approach to their studies and views. As he said himself "believe nothing, question everything". If anything the Scotts would be some of the most isolated Caucasians.. So If you believe the results are legit it means they were Caucasians with some kind of skull deformity. |
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Originally Posted By brass:
I didn't think about wording last night. Seems the experiences I'm going through with lost keys and random symbols showing up, duplicate letters and such are all attributed o One Thing - LIR/R-LIL xxxx series of batteries, Bonus info of day: LIR/CR DDHH[HH] That's the format of all SI Battery size nomencclature. Physical dimensions only. A 14500 cell is 14mm diameter, and 50.0 mm long (AA Cell). A CR2032 is 20mm in diameter, and 3.2 long (thick is commonly used, it's like a thin, smaller quarter. LOVE THEM, the energy density and recharge counts of LiIon cells match or exceed NiMH _IF you can find an application that supports using a 14500 in place of 2 Alkaline/NiMH AA. The LIR-XXXX is relatively new in the game. Many applications have used them, and their chipsets support charging and monitoring of cell. When cell no longer charges, it will say "100%" but not actually work, won't light up lights, etc. Replace with a CR2032? Firmware recognizes it's not a "R" 2032, so refuses to work. That's the problem I had. The chargers for coin cells have only gone mainstream recently, and will explode a non rechargeable cell. Make sure you're only replacing a Rechargeable cell with a rechargeable cell. Some phones will recharge the "emergency ping cell" at the same time your main battery is charging. The keyboard I have is solar. The battery in that keyboard is LIR 2032. A CR2032 didn't work at all. I'm waiting for an RCE2032 to arrive. In the meantime when I don't carefully edit my posts, odd crap speweth in all directions. I edit this like 5 times, but due to "lingo" being highlighted as wrong, I give u. It is working better tan last night, after a day under a 1k lumen lamp, but is messing up again. Super-capacitors reduce the need for these, but they're hidden in many devices which are periodically charged. These can be charged with any Cadex LiPo analyzer with a standard holder/contacts for the 2032 and the micro clip set on the Cadex. R/C Chargers will support all types of LIR XXXXX batteries, estimate 140 if it asks. Same thing, just add the leads as in CAdex. Others are a bit more tricky, as they not have the charge curve available. Lower end only support Li-Ion (Lithium and Manganese), or LiFPO4 (Lithium - Iron) which does cover about 80% of commonly used stuff. I keep a lot of LIR 2025 and 2032s around Between those I can sammich them together and match almost any battery combo up to larger batteries that should be used. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: "just a gestalt puke all over the post" https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/371244/smashing-keyboard-gif-4-837148.gif Bonus info of day: LIR/CR DDHH[HH] That's the format of all SI Battery size nomencclature. Physical dimensions only. A 14500 cell is 14mm diameter, and 50.0 mm long (AA Cell). A CR2032 is 20mm in diameter, and 3.2 long (thick is commonly used, it's like a thin, smaller quarter. LOVE THEM, the energy density and recharge counts of LiIon cells match or exceed NiMH _IF you can find an application that supports using a 14500 in place of 2 Alkaline/NiMH AA. The LIR-XXXX is relatively new in the game. Many applications have used them, and their chipsets support charging and monitoring of cell. When cell no longer charges, it will say "100%" but not actually work, won't light up lights, etc. Replace with a CR2032? Firmware recognizes it's not a "R" 2032, so refuses to work. That's the problem I had. The chargers for coin cells have only gone mainstream recently, and will explode a non rechargeable cell. Make sure you're only replacing a Rechargeable cell with a rechargeable cell. Some phones will recharge the "emergency ping cell" at the same time your main battery is charging. The keyboard I have is solar. The battery in that keyboard is LIR 2032. A CR2032 didn't work at all. I'm waiting for an RCE2032 to arrive. In the meantime when I don't carefully edit my posts, odd crap speweth in all directions. I edit this like 5 times, but due to "lingo" being highlighted as wrong, I give u. It is working better tan last night, after a day under a 1k lumen lamp, but is messing up again. Super-capacitors reduce the need for these, but they're hidden in many devices which are periodically charged. These can be charged with any Cadex LiPo analyzer with a standard holder/contacts for the 2032 and the micro clip set on the Cadex. R/C Chargers will support all types of LIR XXXXX batteries, estimate 140 if it asks. Same thing, just add the leads as in CAdex. Others are a bit more tricky, as they not have the charge curve available. Lower end only support Li-Ion (Lithium and Manganese), or LiFPO4 (Lithium - Iron) which does cover about 80% of commonly used stuff. I keep a lot of LIR 2025 and 2032s around Between those I can sammich them together and match almost any battery combo up to larger batteries that should be used. |
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Herd immunity is a thing for computers too. Anti-updaters are just another form of anti-vaxxers. -dmnoid77
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5000 year old medical theory from Egypt was still in use in germany in the 1600s. Now the medicine was dumber than dog shit but the point is know how from long dead civilizations spread far and wide.
Ancient Egyptian Texts Reveal Lost Science | Ancient Architects Did I ever tell you about my theory of yeast? It invented advanced life to create more yeast. but anywho, here is another theory about yeast. Failed To Load Title |
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I was joking about the yeast theory. Neat about possibly using gas from yeast to cause granite to produce St. Elmo's fire though. Anywho, Foerster put out a new video today. You can see the lesser ability of the Inca in the attempt to rebuild polygonal structures, and where people 600 years before the Inca were also reusing damaged advanced work in their piled stone structures same as the Inca.
My opinion is the fitted stone is much older than the Inca, I agree with him on that, any more fanciful opinion than that I do not vouch for. To me it seems like at one point people with steel, maybe diamond tech, the wheel, wench, crane, advanced math, and dray animals with collar yokes were there.. Maybe steam, maybe. Then something happened and they weren't. Ancient Megalithic Sites In Peru You Have Likely Never Heard Of |
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