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Link Posted: 1/14/2019 2:16:01 AM EDT
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The GoFundMe thing was an obvious publicity stunt that was never gonna happen, because the Federal Government does not take "strings attached" donations requiring the government to use the money for a specific purpose.

So do go on and tell me what a piece of literal shit I am for not sending my credit card information to a website that takes a percentage and hands the rest off to people who might or might not just move to China with the money.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 2:19:04 AM EDT
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Most people are coddled by their comfortable life style. This won't change until someone or something takes that away.

I just keep stocking up, enjoying life in the meantime so that when its time to shoot at people I won't hesitate.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 2:21:54 AM EDT
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I don't believe in donating to things my tax dollars are already supporting.

Basically I don't donate ever.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 2:52:09 AM EDT
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Years ago, I worked very had to reverse the Cali AW ban, but most of the gunners were not interested in because they were mostly only interested in shooting. I was told by one gunner, "I don't want to get involved in politics," I reminded him that when you are gunner, "it comes with the territory." He guy just ambled off without signing my petition.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 3:04:33 AM EDT
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I thought the guy canceled the GFM & refunded all the money because he wanted to start a "non-profit."
$20M in donations could pay a nice salary to the staff...
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 3:05:04 AM EDT
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I get taxed...I've already paid my share.  Expecting congress to do their fucking jobs while not voluntarily taking money out of my pocket isn't exactly a "parallel" for my supporting gun rights.

False equivalent OP.
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This.  Plus, anyone with two brain cells to rub together can make the logical leap that even if we foot the cost of constructing the wall that the benefits reaped by it will outweigh the costs.  The tax dollars saved merely by the reduction in illegal alien invaders pouring into our country will cover the cost in a very short term.  Even ignoring that aspect the new trade agreement with Mexico ensures that “Mexico pays for the wall” at some point.

Are the libtards going to argue they didn’t pay for their dildos and pussyhats since they used a credit card vs paying cash?
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 6:42:26 AM EDT
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The GoFundMe for the wall was a silly PR stunt that nobody took seriously.

The dearth of contributions is evidence for common sense among conservatives, not lack of commitment.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 6:45:08 AM EDT
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Okay OP.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 6:47:58 AM EDT
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What does gun ownership have to do with a public works project?

You spend your own money the way you see fit and keep in your own lane when it comes to mine.
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You are demonstrating your lack of critical thinking ability. He's pointing out the parallel between all the people who whine about the wall yet didn't contribute a damned thing, and all the gun owners who whine about their 2A rights but won't do a damned thing to protect them. Fuck your lane. Your comment proves you ran off the road a long time ago.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 6:49:17 AM EDT
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This is about the election. Trump promised a wall and his re-election depends on meeting his campaign promises. We will be out of Syria nd we will have a wall or make a huge show about it to see why we don't have one.

Crowd-sourced government is a great idea, but I would really like to see some of the money the government prints at my inflationary expense go to something I want, not just crap socialists want.
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Problem is, NeverTrumpers and Democrats blocked appropriations, and the Pres can't simply vote the money into the budget himself.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 6:54:17 AM EDT
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Not entirely a new train of thought for this year, if a tad disorganized...  Some other examples would be threads by

@Miami_JBT (with a hefty nod to @eesmith as well)

@Smashy

@CAKEPWNER

Note how quickly they turn into demands for ideological purity (Smashy's in particular) and smug, self satisfied assurance that the right is just to individualistic to organize (while participating on an internet message board), for Mr JBT's thread.  Mr PWNR also has some mighty interesting thoughts as well.

One would also be wise to note that they all cack out at 6 pages or under while the bastions of Right Wing Strength and Purity are still going on about Jazz Cabbage in the HR420 thread and in a thread dogging @LittlePony about carpet dash mats.
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Yeah.... if a fair number of people in GD suck-started their favorite pistol, I doubt those of us actually in the fight would ever even notice the loss.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 6:57:34 AM EDT
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One of the jobs of the government in the Constitution is to protect the country.  The Republicans have controlled everything for 2 years and failed. Neither party wants to do anything.  The government already collects plenty of tax money. The government should stop pissing away money on transit busses ,welfare and section 8 housing . None of which are in the Constitution.
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And government also has the job of enforcing laws... but I still carry a concealed weapon off-duty for when it can't. Or won't. Cowboy up, or get down with the socialists. Your choice.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 6:59:38 AM EDT
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yeah, but those are cat guys, so basically they're just a bunch of marys.
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That shit is amazing. Some guy just says "dogs aren't that special" and it results in a thread with over 20,000 views and 17 fucking pages of triggering in less than 5 days.
yeah, but those are cat guys, so basically they're just a bunch of marys.
Aaaand you prove his point in one sentence. Geeze...
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 7:01:04 AM EDT
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I thought it was because gofundme money couldn't specifically be put towards building a wall. The best could be some general fund with no guarantee on how it would be spent.
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Link Posted: 1/14/2019 7:02:17 AM EDT
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I don't believe in donating to things my tax dollars are already supporting.

Basically I don't donate ever.
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And that's why you'll have those NFA items seized in the near future.... because you didn't raise a fucking finger to help.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 7:16:29 AM EDT
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And that's why you'll have those NFA items seized in the near future.... because you didn't raise a fucking finger to help.
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I don't believe in donating to things my tax dollars are already supporting.

Basically I don't donate ever.
And that's why you'll have those NFA items seized in the near future.... because you didn't raise a fucking finger to help.
"muh government takes care of all my shit"......
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 7:19:23 AM EDT
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This.

And as far as the wall? And anyone that thought a dime of that money was going to a wall is fucking deluded. Just like anyone that thinks a dime of their taxes is going to is it deluded. The wall is never going to happen. The wall will be Trumps "read my lips"
Focus on enforcement, bust the shit out of employers that knowing hire illegals. Cut off funding entirely to rogue States that have sanctuary cities. Make getting caught sneaking in really suck. Tax the shit out of wire transfers to countries what most of them are coming from. Cut off ALL aid to nations where they are flowing from.

Fuck it, pull out of the middleshitEast and put efforts into raising rebellions in the shitholes near us. They love waving their flags? Lets help them take their countries back. All fighting ages and capable males with no violent records, go back and fight.
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Lol, that’s even less likely to happen than a wall.

Anything that would really and truly be good for our nation just isn’t going to happen. Ever .

Government loves illegals more than its own citizens .
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 7:24:48 AM EDT
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The GoFundMe isn't canceled... They wanted to redirect the money to a private company to build a wall since there is no way to get the feds to use the money for a wall...
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That happens to all the fundraising efforts the guy leads. Super shady. He uses the right words though, and the gullible lap it up.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 7:25:57 AM EDT
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I thought the guy canceled the GFM & refunded all the money because he wanted to start a "non-profit."
$20M in donations could pay a nice salary to the staff...
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Bingo. He’s done it before, he did it here, and he’ll do it again.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 7:29:34 AM EDT
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And that's why you'll have those NFA items seized in the near future.... because you didn't raise a fucking finger to help.
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Let's see. Who am I going to donate to that will actually make a difference?

GOA? NSSF? The NRA? They're going to do what they want to do.

My money won't change anything.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 7:33:22 AM EDT
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Five million NRA members go handed a gun ownership infringement.

I don't know this dude, Kolfage, and I don't know that the money would be spent on a wall.  Remember the homeless guy and the couple that set up the gofundme for him and then kept the money?

IIRC, Kolfage didn't have a nonprofit set up when he started the gofundme and probably realized that money is viewed by IRS as income.  He has now set up a nonprofit and is asking for donations to that.  I doubt people will turn around and send back the money he refunded.  He has shown that he doesn't know what he's doing.

Trump will get the wall built.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 7:37:47 AM EDT
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Bingo. He’s done it before, he did it here, and he’ll do it again.
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I thought the guy canceled the GFM & refunded all the money because he wanted to start a "non-profit."
$20M in donations could pay a nice salary to the staff...
Bingo. He’s done it before, he did it here, and he’ll do it again.
Seriously?  People need to look into this guy.  Even if they say they are building the wall themselves, they could have all of the money donated tied up in administrative and legal fees.  I just don't see how this gets done privately.  I don't think that the government would even let them build it.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 7:41:53 AM EDT
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My 2 cents is such that I pay enough damn taxes already that can fund the wall. I sure as hell am not going to give more money to something that should have already been done when the GOP had control the last two years. This is a failure of our law makers not us.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 8:27:20 AM EDT
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I thought it was because gofundme money couldn't specifically be put towards building a wall. The best could be some general fund with no guarantee on how it would be spent.
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SPNI
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 8:35:05 AM EDT
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I think a lot of people are actually just shy of donating to an account that has no guarantee or requirement to actually spend donated money on what it says it will.

Take the recent "Marine Vet spends Last $20 buying lady tank of gas" GoFunMe scam.
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Bingo.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 8:35:18 AM EDT
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Because it would be fucking dumb to send money to some schmuck's gofundme claiming it was going to the wall, when common sense says there is no way to contribute specifically to the wall like that.

If they turned the money over to the government, it would go in the general fund.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 8:58:38 AM EDT
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I thought it was because gofundme money couldn't specifically be put towards building a wall. The best could be some general fund with no guarantee on how it would be spent.
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This.

The money was a waste
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 9:05:35 AM EDT
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Don't try to blame me for not funding the wall.   That is a US national defense issue and you could pull the $20 billion dollars from multiple welfare programs and not bat an eye.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 9:12:03 AM EDT
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Make the check payable to Donald J Trump - I have absolute faith in the man to do the right thing.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 9:12:15 AM EDT
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im not donating my hard earned money to some random go fund me page, that even if they met 10,000% of their goal does not mean a single fence post would ever go into a border fence.

the gov needs to build it and pay for it. if private people could make it work, then private border patrol would already be keeping illegals out. but they cant, cause gov forbids it, just as gov will forbid anyone building a border wall should they try it. I don't care if your a trillionaire, the environmental regs and judges would bankrupt anyone private doing it, and block you with a cease and desist order before you built 100 yards of wall.  your gonna need eminent domain, and national security to bulldoze that shit out of the way to make it happen.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 9:14:48 AM EDT
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I already paid for the fucking wall.

Several times over.

It's time for the people who keep stealing the producers' money to do useful shit with it.

Also, there are significant legal barriers to using donated money for a wall, and the money will likely just disappear.

Like with what happened with the stolen tax money.  Only it would be stupider, because it was voluntary.

Also, join date post count leftist horseshit go back to DU.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 9:16:58 AM EDT
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I don't write checks to the town demanding they fix potholes, I'm already paying for that service.

I never really believed there would be a wall built anyway, it was just political bravado to help target a certain demographic of voters.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 9:17:45 AM EDT
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They have raised their kids (and ours in some cases) to *hate* us.

Did you do the same?

...that's why we are losing. They control all the information, and they aren't afraid to use it to destroy you.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 9:18:48 AM EDT
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What if enough private land owners who's property runs right to the border zone built big walls on their own land within the easements codes and such. Couldn't that be funded that way? And how much SJW libtard action could stop it?
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 9:23:34 AM EDT
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Like it has already been said, Americans already pay for lots of taxes. The problem has never been the funding. 5 billions— hell, even 10 billions would be a drop in the bucket of the US annual budget.

It’s a matter of political willingness.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 9:35:09 AM EDT
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I took a chance and made a donation...…..fuck it.

Worth a try.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 9:43:54 AM EDT
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Note how quickly they turn into demands for ideological purity (Smashy's in particular) and smug, self satisfied assurance that the right is just to individualistic to organize (while participating on an internet message board),
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if right wingers were really too individualistic to effectively work together, they wouldn’t be statistically over represented in the US Military.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 9:51:42 AM EDT
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Fuck that gofundme, which by the way their liberal asses take a cut of the money.

Our .gov should waste less money and build the wall, period.

I'm already paying taxes, I'm not giving more money to a stranger who knows what will happen to it.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 9:53:09 AM EDT
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Yeah....NO!

I pay taxes let that fund the wall if the Mexicans are not going to and I don't give money to random go fund me sites.

The NRA is part of the swamp. They will never see another dime from me.

I personally believe at some point things with guns will come to a head and then people will step up.  It is a balance.  Currently people have too much to lose and will either not comply or they will comply because they don't care about what has been foisted on them enough to fight yet.  At some point the balance will shift.

To this point the majority of gun owners haven't seen any changes to what they can and can not own.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 9:56:31 AM EDT
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It was a political stunt.

Don't get worked up about it. There will be a wall.
Link Posted: 1/14/2019 9:58:26 AM EDT
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Oh don’t worry. The WALL Will be built. WE PAID FOR IT ALREADY.$$$$$$$$$$$
Link Posted: 1/16/2019 1:28:06 AM EDT
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Lol forgot to finish the comment, see below.
Link Posted: 1/16/2019 1:58:31 AM EDT
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4d tennis OP
Link Posted: 1/16/2019 6:33:56 PM EDT
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What ever happened to The War of the Windows everybody here was talking about 6 or so years ago?
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Oh God.

That particular short story perfectly encapsulates every hilariously wrong belief right wingers have about what constitutes a realistic way to effect political change, to whit:

1)absolutely no planning or organizing involved;
2) some random other dude takes the first step;
3) everyone magically gets on board with it with no prompting(hint: this almost never happens in real life; most viral events these days actually have some nexus of collaborators pushing things);
4)it’s fun!
5) not actually that risky!
6)the other side caves and gives you exactly what you want; God forbid they actually try to twist it to their advantage or anything!
7) yay! Revolution won in a few weeks! Now lets go back to our regular lives again!

I mean sure it’s *possible* and I can actually think of a couple roughly similar situations, but in the end It’s as much of a “plan” as buying weekly lottery tickets counts as retirement.

This type of shit is the same thing as Qanon, which regardless of its provenance has only encouraged people to be lazy and stupid.
Link Posted: 1/16/2019 8:16:28 PM EDT
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That shit is amazing. Some guy just says "dogs aren't that special" and it results in a thread with over 20,000 views and 17 fucking pages of triggering in less than 5 days. You'd be hard pressed to generate that much outrage in so little time over such mundane, boring things as "rights being stripped away", "increase in taxes", or the ever unpopular "anything at all that's actually worth even a modicum of someones time and energy".
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Ideological purity is  nothing. People get shit on around here for not having the right  brands of gear.
Or for having the "right" gear, but obviously LARPing!

As another side note, the "Dogs are overrated thread" is at 17 pages.
That shit is amazing. Some guy just says "dogs aren't that special" and it results in a thread with over 20,000 views and 17 fucking pages of triggering in less than 5 days. You'd be hard pressed to generate that much outrage in so little time over such mundane, boring things as "rights being stripped away", "increase in taxes", or the ever unpopular "anything at all that's actually worth even a modicum of someones time and energy".
And now the "Punishment for kid losing jacket" will probably reach and breach 10 pages by end of week.  

I do thank you for trying to get people talking about this though @CAKEPWNER.
Link Posted: 1/17/2019 1:19:56 PM EDT
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At the end of the day, no one really gives a fuck about anything.

Shows on the TV, food in the fridge, mindlessly repitious life.
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