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Link Posted: 12/8/2005 12:40:05 PM EDT
[#1]
So can someone explain the different stages of the process to me?

I *assume* that when it goes pending, it means that someone had verified that all the required forms are present, all correctly filled out, and that the check has cleared. At that point it is waiting for an examiner to verify that what is being requested is legally correct, and for the FBI background check to return.

When the above is complete, I assume it is "accepted", and simply waiting for someone to stuff one copy into their filing cabinet, and the other into an envelope addressed to the dealer.

Am I right?
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 1:52:38 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
So can someone explain the different stages of the process to me?

I *assume* that when it goes pending, it means that someone had verified that all the required forms are present, all correctly filled out, and that the check has cleared. At that point it is waiting for an examiner to verify that what is being requested is legally correct, and for the FBI background check to return.

When the above is complete, I assume it is "accepted", and simply waiting for someone to stuff one copy into their filing cabinet, and the other into an envelope addressed to the dealer.

Am I right?



You are exactly right.
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 3:01:15 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
You are exactly right.



First time anyone on Arfcom has ever said that to me
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 4:12:01 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You are exactly right.



First time anyone on Arfcom has ever said that to me




Consider the source

Link Posted: 12/8/2005 7:25:12 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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You are exactly right.



First time anyone on Arfcom has ever said that to me




Consider the source




X 2
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 1:51:54 PM EDT
[#6]
It look like there is a Tac 16 for sale from this group buy.

You guys may want to check out the NFA EE for details.  Looks like it is going for same price it was bought for.

Link Posted: 12/12/2005 2:00:10 PM EDT
[#7]
I posted a reply, how much not shipped??  

Pat you still up for doing the deal on the transfer a little cheaper??  I'm interested.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 2:36:17 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I posted a reply, how much not shipped??  

Pat you still up for doing the deal on the transfer a little cheaper??  I'm interested.



Yep, I'll do the xfer for you,
email me, I still need to cancel the other transfer.

(P.S. sorry, but no refunds if you change your mind, or don't get approved, the $50 is for my Signature)
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 2:46:50 PM EDT
[#9]
working on getting the $$ together now. Hopefully :fingerscrossed
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 6:44:42 AM EDT
[#10]
Finally!!!!!

Pending as of Dec 13th. I might have it by the next big shoot. Now I need something to put it on.


Link Posted: 12/15/2005 7:10:52 AM EDT
[#11]
Finally I somehow weaseled my way into this!!  thanks elcid- see ya on Sunday.

I guess now the really fun starts with the wait huh??
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:02:52 AM EDT
[#12]
Damnit, still pending............
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 3:29:48 PM EDT
[#13]
yep, see you on sunday bro.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 7:53:06 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
yep, see you on sunday bro.



Well, You and chakup hook up?
O.K. for me to put in the Form 3?

Pat  
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:59:15 PM EDT
[#15]
Curious if anyone's been approved yet.   Just wondering if there's an early christmas for somebody.


Pat, I'm gonna have to arrange a visit to compare this 45 upper with your vector.   I think I've got ya but I'll have to see to be sure.    That Vector can is impressive.   You should be selling a few of those
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 8:57:16 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
yep, see you on sunday bro.



Well, You and chakup hook up?
O.K. for me to put in the Form 3?

Pat  



Well Pat he should be calling you here soon, sounds like he's busy though.  I'm in no big rush though!
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 5:55:38 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
yep, see you on sunday bro.



Well, You and chakup hook up?
O.K. for me to put in the Form 3?

Pat  



Well Pat he should be calling you here soon, sounds like he's busy though.  I'm in no big rush though!



Just left him a VOICE mail.
I sent a copy of the FORM 3 (and funds for some MP40 parts) to Brass Cartridge today,
that I will be FAXing to BATFE as soon as I hear from Kevin.

Pat
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 6:06:38 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Curious if anyone's been approved yet.   Just wondering if there's an early christmas for somebody.


Pat, I'm gonna have to arrange a visit to compare this 45 upper with your vector.   I think I've got ya but I'll have to see to be sure.    That Vector can is impressive.   You should be selling a few of those



Anywhere anytime!
A better test will be against my MP45SD, but we will have to go out to TNW if the paperwork doesn't come back before you come out next.



Pat
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 6:12:13 PM EDT
[#19]
TAC-16 EndCap Tools????

Watchdawg just said "Tactical Innovations has them for $24.99 with free shipping through the end of the year"

Those who WANT them can either get them straight from TI,
or we can order all in one order,
your call.

Pat

Link Posted: 12/20/2005 7:28:04 AM EDT
[#20]
Yeah my process has started.

And I'll be in for a tool as well.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 10:17:00 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
TAC-16 EndCap Tools????

Watchdawg just said "Tactical Innovations has them for $24.99 with free shipping through the end of the year"

Those who WANT them can either get them straight from TI,
or we can order all in one order,
your call.

Pat




I need one.  Group thing would be good and I can pick it up from you when  the Tac clears.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 11:52:41 AM EDT
[#22]
1ST FORM 4 is here

Too bad is was "elcid11" Canceled one!

Pat
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 12:01:16 PM EDT
[#23]
He sent his in two weeks before I did.

I just called still pending...damnit, I knew I should have sent it in faster.....ggrrrrr
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 12:09:28 PM EDT
[#24]
Mine is still pending too ... don't suppose we are going to see much action over the Christmas/New Year holidays -- pitty -- it would have looked good hanging from the Christmas Tree
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 12:15:29 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
1ST FORM 4 is here

Too bad is was "elcid11" Canceled one!

Pat



When did he send his in?  
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 12:19:42 PM EDT
[#26]
The 24th of october.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 12:55:15 PM EDT
[#27]
I think I mailed mine out on 10/18 but I don't have the SN with me to call about it today.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 8:08:46 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
1ST FORM 4 is here

Too bad is was "elcid11" Canceled one!

Pat



Sorry to get you guys all wound up again.   This is the one he CANCELED last week.
I was just surprised Miss Alma sent it back that quick after canceling it.

Don't worry, I will let you know as SOON as I get the first APPROVED one!

Pat
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 8:21:18 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Sorry to get you guys all wound up again....

Don't worry, I will let you know as SOON as I get the first APPROVED one!

Pat



Each time this topic shows up on the top of my active topics list, I get all wound up.  Especially when you're the one posting!!

Looks like the Christmas present won't be here. :(
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 4:55:47 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Sorry to get you guys all wound up again....

Don't worry, I will let you know as SOON as I get the first APPROVED one!

Pat



Each time this topic shows up on the top of my active topics list, I get all wound up.  Especially when you're the one posting!!

Looks like the Christmas present won't be here. :(



I have Santa's little elves at ATF working Night & Day for you.
Guess it all depends if you are on the GOOD LIST or the BAD LIST

Santa brought ME a new toy the other day,

Ho Ho Ho.

I told you guys CAN come out and shoot your CANS any time, no one has????

Pat
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 7:26:51 AM EDT
[#31]
It won't be a completely suppressor-less Christmas for me.   I picked up my Gemtech Outback II
on Saturday.

WARNING:  Fairly large images:

www.watchdawg.org/~lv/c3/2245_GT001.jpg
www.watchdawg.org/~lv/c3/2245_GT004.jpg
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 7:32:23 AM EDT
[#32]
Watchdawg, VERY cool.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:06:38 AM EDT
[#33]
Very cool Pat, gonna have to sneak some trigger time with that
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:49:24 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:


Santa brought ME a new toy the other day,

I told you guys CAN come out and shoot your CANS any time, no one has????

Pat



Rule of thumb.  A GT Outback loses cool points when posted directly beneath an MP5SD! ;-)

BTW, I'd love a little trigger time on the SD, a similar MP5SD was the first FA firearm I ever fired.
I've been meaning to come out and see my tac16 Pat, but time and daylight have been against
me!

Link Posted: 12/22/2005 11:40:53 AM EDT
[#35]
1. NFA Item: TAC-16 Suppressor
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Individual
4. Forms Sent: 10/20/05
5. Check Cashed: 10/26/05
6. Pending Date: 12/06/05
7. Approved Date:
8. Forms Received:
9. Transferror/Maker Letter:
10. Examiner Name:
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 1:50:55 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
1. NFA Item: TAC-16 Suppressor
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Individual
4. Forms Sent: 10/20/05
5. Check Cashed: 10/26/05
6. Pending Date: 12/06/05
7. Approved Date:
8. Forms Received:
9. Transferror/Maker Letter:
10. Examiner Name:



Hey!! thats my data!
What are you doing with it?

[Nice to see that they are obviously processing these things at the same rates]

ETA: [Except for those obviously undeserving cases, who try to jump the queue by sending stuff in early]
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 2:00:25 PM EDT
[#37]
I sent my forms in 25 days earlier then you but are only pending 5 days faster........uhhhh???
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 4:01:29 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
I sent my forms in 25 days earlier then you but are only pending 5 days faster........uhhhh???



If you sent them regular mail, they don't get there until about 10 days. Then the holidays will add some time as well.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 10:04:59 AM EDT
[#39]
SO,  is everyone PENDING NOW?

If you don't know, CALL BATF NOW  (202) 927-8330

You will need your SN.

I have been waiting a FORM-5 for 30 days, just to find out I put the WRONG SN on the form.
(No, they didn't figure it out, I did)

CALL EARLY and  OFTEN.

Pat  
Oregon Research Labs, LLC
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 10:11:07 AM EDT
[#40]
Still pending as of 1 minute ago.....
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 11:15:56 AM EDT
[#41]
Still pending ...

(.22LR can not in the system yet...)
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:45:32 PM EDT
[#42]
Ohh how I feel your pain.   I'm really hoping you guys dont have to wait too long.   Tax refund season is coming and with it I'm sure another form 4.    Lets hope you guys get approved in the next week or so.  
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 8:07:13 PM EDT
[#43]
Yea, I don't think anything is getting done this week in gov. land.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 6:27:49 AM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
Yea, I don't think anything is getting done this week in gov. land.



This week is only marginally different than any other week then! ;-)
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 6:59:55 AM EDT
[#45]
LOL, nice.

So who has the longest Pending date?  I'm DEC. 1
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 7:50:44 AM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:

So who has the longest Pending date?  I'm DEC. 1



11/25  
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 10:04:30 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
Yea, I don't think anything is getting done this week in gov. land.



Actually, I got a form 3 and a form 5 done in RECORD time,

FAXED a Form 5 on 12-22-2005 @ 6:45 A.M.
Signed by Gary Sch#### on 12-22-2005,
received in the mail 12-27-2005

Form 3 FAXED on 12-19-2006 as 20:10 (That's 8:10 p.m. for you civies)
Also signed by Gary on 12-22-2005
received in the same mail 12-27-2005

(Alma must be on Vacation, Gary signed them this time)

You guys must just be waiting on the BACKGROUND checks.

Pat
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 10:25:13 AM EDT
[#48]
Ooh oooh is that my form 3????
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:07:13 AM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:
Ooh oooh is that my form 3????



As a mater of fact, YES
Will FAX the "Form 3" to Mike today and try to mail it out Friday.

Pat
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 8:12:10 AM EDT
[#50]
hahahah Yeah, happy new years to me!!  

thanks again for doing that for me, a true stand up in my opinion.
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