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Quoted: Quoted: CARBINE alone is lame and CARBINE on a 20” rifle is even lamer. Completely agree. Are any of you guys young enough to know how to photoshop the Colt logo centered closely above CARBINE and eliminating the Pony? Colt CARBINE may have been okay on the carbines, not the 20”. Keeping the Pony and putting it on the other of the magwell, along with Colt CARBINE on the left side, would definitely cause me to buy one. ETA: My avatar was done for me by a friend. It’s outside of my skill set. |
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Quoted: Are any of you guys young enough to know how to photoshop the Colt logo centered closely above CARBINE and eliminating the Pony? Colt CARBINE may have been okay. On the carbines, not the 20”. ETA: My avatar was done for me by a friend. It’s outside of my skill set. View Quote Please post this request in GD for the laughs. |
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Anyone else notice the ambi safety was changed to the leg leg milspec style?
Also the grips no longer appear to be bead blasted/matte |
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Quoted: Anyone else notice the ambi safety was changed to the leg leg milspec style? Also the grips no longer appear to be bead blasted/matte View Quote Curious if the ambi safety is still reversible? As a lefty, it’s the reason I prefer the Colt ambi’s. Mine won’t be here until Monday to check but I’ll be disappointed if it’s not. |
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Do these get shipped 2 day or what?
Got notice that it shipped 3 days ago but they did not give any tracking number and I can't get a reply via email or phone. Do they ship fedex 2 day? |
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Quoted: Do these get shipped 2 day or what? Got notice that it shipped 3 days ago but they did not give any tracking number and I can't get a reply via email or phone. Do they ship fedex 2 day? View Quote Suppose to arrive tomorrow. |
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Quoted: I purchased one yesterday and it was shipped same day Fedex. Mine was two day, but I am one state over.. Suppose to arrive tomorrow. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Do these get shipped 2 day or what? Got notice that it shipped 3 days ago but they did not give any tracking number and I can't get a reply via email or phone. Do they ship fedex 2 day? Suppose to arrive tomorrow. Mine went fedex ground. I receive an e-mail from Clydes saying it shipped without the tracking number. Then an e-mail from fedex with the tracking info. |
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Looks like Clyde's is sold out of the SOCOM's Cannot add any to cart.
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I got my Carbine today.
Nice and acceptable. Perfect is normally not used with Colt so I will not say perfect. Upper to lower fit is tight in a good way. Very nice fit. Came with a unmarked upper but for keyhole, all else same as posted. I bought some cage code M4 COMPLETE uppers a long time ago that were pulled brand new off the first batch of these made. Seller made more profit selling the lowers alone. I will likely change complete upper with a cage code and M4 marked complete unit to improve the overall Carbine value. What would this non-cage code complete upper be worth selling it on EE or GB? It is very nice. |
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View Quote they charge tax and $14 fee. all said and done they are about $100 less. I do not like the company but thats maybe just me. Clydes has worked for me a few times. Good people. |
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I found a dealer willing to split the upper and lower for a fair price. I bought the lower only. The unmarked upper receiver is .
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Anyone else want to pull the grip of and see if there is any markings under it?
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Do these come with a KAC rail or is it Troy like before? Can someone please post a picture?
Much appreciated and thanks! |
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Quoted: Markings on the receiver where the grip attaches? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Anyone else want to pull the grip of and see if there is any markings under it? Markings on the receiver where the grip attaches? @HD2006 Yes. In the same spot as this picture (taken from this thread). Same marks, different marks, or no marks. Attached File |
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Quoted: @HD2006 Yes. In the same spot as this picture (taken from this thread). Same marks, different marks, or no marks. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/439146/5DF07D27-E7DA-466D-9C71-573167C2A7CB_jpe-2172814.JPG View Quote Mine gets delivered today so I should be able to pick it up from the FFL. I’ll pull the grip when I get it home. I planned on doing that anyways to see if the safety is still reversible. |
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Quoted: Specifically how is the upper wonky or deficient ? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I found a dealer willing to split the upper and lower for a fair price. I bought the lower only. The unmarked upper receiver is . Specifically how is the upper wonky or deficient ? I didn't want to pay a premium for an upper that didn't even have Colt's cage code on it. |
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Quoted: Mine gets delivered today so I should be able to pick it up from the FFL. I’ll pull the grip when I get it home. I planned on doing that anyways to see if the safety is still reversible. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: @HD2006 Yes. In the same spot as this picture (taken from this thread). Same marks, different marks, or no marks. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/439146/5DF07D27-E7DA-466D-9C71-573167C2A7CB_jpe-2172814.JPG Mine gets delivered today so I should be able to pick it up from the FFL. I’ll pull the grip when I get it home. I planned on doing that anyways to see if the safety is still reversible. Here’s what mine is marked under the pistol grip. Also in case anyone was wondering, the new style ambi safety is still reversible. |
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Quoted: Here’s what mine is marked under the pistol grip. Also in case anyone was wondering, the new style ambi safety is still reversible. https://i.imgur.com/khgVxvC.jpg View Quote Thanks for the pic. I wonder what that’s markings are for and how many numbers they use? Looks like it is done with a ball end mill. |
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I had a chance to look mine over a bit last night. On my particular example it had the following markings or lack of markings:
- Barrel: CAGE code, I have not pulled the hand guard to see if there’s a date but consensus is it won’t have one - Upper receiver: key hole forge mark, no M4 marking above gas tube hole, no CAGE code, white t-marks - BCG: C marked carrier, MPC marked bolt, unmarked extractor - Charging handle: unmarked - Stock: P&S CAGE code - Pistol grip: F3, however it is more shiny and feels slightly different then older Colt A2 grips - Ambi safety: short lever marked with Colt CAGE code Overall I’m very happy with it. It came with a Colt marked 30rd USGI mag which is cool, I assumed it would have a PMAG but I like USGI mags better. The fit and finish is nice. Mine has a little wobble, what I would call average for most Colt’s I’ve handled. I like the new ambi safety, the long lever resembles the f/a version now and less like the older “hot dog” style levers. |
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Something I just noticed on my new carbine.
The Matech does not have gate stencil on it. I checked under it and it is correctly marked. I do know that sometimes they have no stencil but if Colt is using them and cage coded and Matech stamped, thats fine. |
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For those replacing the upper with a cage coded model.....
It appears that the cage code should be dot matrix applied on the upper with a square forge. My upper went on EE just now. I would love to keep it but money tight with Christmas. |
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Quoted: For those replacing the upper with a cage coded model..... It appears that the cage code should be dot matrix applied on the upper with a square forge. View Quote The dot matrix is what they do lately. The cool kids use stamped “C” uppers or ones that at least have the cage code engraved vs. that shitty dot matrix. Hence my point earlier that these new uppers are terrible. Everyone is buying them for the lower anyway. Glad I didn’t waste money on the upper and then have to offload it. |
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Quoted: The dot matrix is what they do lately. The cool kids use stamped “C” uppers or ones that at least have the cage code engraved vs. that shitty dot matrix. Hence my point earlier that these new uppers are terrible. Everyone is buying them for the lower anyway. Glad I didn’t waste money on the upper and then have to offload it. View Quote All in all, the upper that came with these is damn nice. It hurts me to sell mine off. I would doubt Colt FN ever sells these nice SOCOM 14.5s alone without it being a complete carbine. |
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Quoted: All in all, the upper that came with these is damn nice. It hurts me to sell mine off. I would doubt Colt FN ever sells these nice SOCOM 14.5s alone without it being a complete carbine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The dot matrix is what they do lately. The cool kids use stamped “C” uppers or ones that at least have the cage code engraved vs. that shitty dot matrix. Hence my point earlier that these new uppers are terrible. Everyone is buying them for the lower anyway. Glad I didn’t waste money on the upper and then have to offload it. All in all, the upper that came with these is damn nice. It hurts me to sell mine off. I would doubt Colt FN ever sells these nice SOCOM 14.5s alone without it being a complete carbine. The barrels? You can get those from Brownells. And if the upper is so nice, why are you selling yours? It’s because what you really wanted was the lower right? People need to stop defending Colt. With them it’s been one step forwards, two steps back. Yes, the new lowers are a step forwards. But the uppers as currently configured don’t demand a premium. No M4 mark? Not even a cage code? Haha. The best route is to build your own upper and just get one of these new lowers for it. |
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Quoted: The barrels? You can get those from Brownells. And if the upper is so nice, why are you selling yours? It’s because what you really wanted was the lower right? People need to stop defending Colt. With them it’s been one step forwards, two steps back. Yes, the new lowers are a step forwards. But the uppers as currently configured don’t demand a premium. No M4 mark? Not even a cage code? Haha. The best route is to build your own upper and just get one of these new lowers for it. View Quote Not as easy as that. Barrels OOS. You would have to get a FH and have it pinned nicely. Need KACs. Need Matech. Need side sling. Need C marked BCG. Need upper. Added up, it COSTS. BIG! Mine just sold in just a few minuets. People like these turn key and they do not come up for sale often. The only reason I let it go was because money is tight with Christmas. I will regret it greatly I am sure. |
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Quoted: Not as easy as that. Barrels OOS. You would have to get a FH and have it pinned nicely. Need KACs. Need Matech. Need side sling. Need C marked BCG. Need upper. Added up, it COSTS. BIG! Mine just sold in just a few minuets. People like these turn key and they do not come up for sale often. The only reason I let it go was because money is tight with Christmas. I will regret it greatly I am sure. View Quote If you actually wanted to keep the upper, I would have given you Christmas money and held onto your upper until you had the money to give me back. I have zero interest in the upper, but I remember what it was like to struggle to give my kids a decent Christmas. |
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Quoted: Not as easy as that. Barrels OOS. You would have to get a FH and have it pinned nicely. Need KACs. Need Matech. Need side sling. Need C marked BCG. Need upper. Added up, it COSTS. BIG! Mine just sold in just a few minuets. People like these turn key and they do not come up for sale often. The only reason I let it go was because money is tight with Christmas. I will regret it greatly I am sure. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The barrels? You can get those from Brownells. And if the upper is so nice, why are you selling yours? It’s because what you really wanted was the lower right? People need to stop defending Colt. With them it’s been one step forwards, two steps back. Yes, the new lowers are a step forwards. But the uppers as currently configured don’t demand a premium. No M4 mark? Not even a cage code? Haha. The best route is to build your own upper and just get one of these new lowers for it. Not as easy as that. Barrels OOS. You would have to get a FH and have it pinned nicely. Need KACs. Need Matech. Need side sling. Need C marked BCG. Need upper. Added up, it COSTS. BIG! Mine just sold in just a few minuets. People like these turn key and they do not come up for sale often. The only reason I let it go was because money is tight with Christmas. I will regret it greatly I am sure. Sorry you had to sell it, but at least it sold. However, let's just agree to disagree on these uppers. If these rifles were selling at $1,000-$1,200 (e.g. 6920 + RAS), then it wouldn't matter. But the premium they are asking for is 99% because of the lower marking and maybe, just maybe, the barrel in this case. Otherwise it's all stock component stuff that's no different than a 6920. Most folks don't know or care about the finer points on these guns, and that's fine. But let's not pretend that a Cerro forge upper without any semblance of M4 mark or cage code is the same with as one with at least both of those features (to someone truly into Colt rifles). Colt got cheap on this point and I don't see how anyone can argue that. And for the record, the wholesale cost on these rifles is like $1,275ish as a reference point. However, I am still hopeful that CZ comes in and changes things, but we will have to wait and see. I've got my fingers crossed that they will bring back some of the stuff that made Colt somewhat special (technological improvements like laser engraving aside). |
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Initial production run this year was believed to be a few hundred with a second production cycle of up to one thousand.
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They didn’t exactly fly off the shelves, when compared to the OEM1s. The same number of OEM1s would have sold out in three days. I think the fact that there hadn’t been a single OEM1 for sale for a long time on GB, until GTD put ONE up recently, also demonstrates the difference in demand. People want them for themselves, they aren’t buying them to flip them on GB, like you’re seeing with the SOCOM. CZ may want to take notice of the success that SIG has had with the P320s and P365/XL business strategies and the possibility that they could do something similar with the 6920. Offer two complete carbines, but also offer two “platform” carbines, because it’s blatantly obvious that there is a strong demand for the OEM1 and to a lesser extent the OEM2. They could then place more focus than they currently do on marketing their own accessories and “upgrade” accessories, as well as having manufacturers like Centurion, as an example, make a FF handguard for them with a Colt logo on it. I’m not nearly as familiar with the ATF laws as many of you, but if they could leave off the grip, then leave it off the “platform” carbines as well. The more that people can accessorize themselves, the more accessories you can sell them. Especially, if they have a Colt logo and/or Pony on them.
When you’re counting down the number of SOCOMs remaining by sometimes one a day, I don’t even think you could define that as lukewarm demand and if you were to argue that the difference in demand with the OEM1 was a direct result of the price point, then I would point out the fact that there are literally millions of Colt owners to whom the price of a SOCOM is a largely or entirely insignificant amount of money and yet they are still counting down by 1s. Okay, let me hear how wrong I am and how bad this idea is. ETA: And for f~ks sake, put M4 CARBINE back on the carbines or even COLT CARBINE if nothing else. |
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Quoted: They didn’t exactly fly off the shelves, when compared to the OEM1s. The same number of OEM1s would have sold out in three days. I think the fact that there hadn’t been a single OEM1 for sale for a long time on GB, until GTD put ONE up recently, also demonstrates the difference in demand. People want them for themselves, they aren’t buying them to flip them on GB, like you’re seeing with the SOCOM. CZ may want to take notice of the success that SIG has had with the P320s and P365/XL business strategies and the possibility that they could do something similar with the 6920. Offer two complete carbines, but also offer two “platform” carbines, because it’s blatantly obvious that there is a strong demand for the OEM1 and to a lesser extent the OEM2. They could then place more focus than they currently do on marketing their own accessories and “upgrade” accessories, as well as having manufacturers like Centurion, as an example, make a FF handguard for them with a Colt logo on it. I’m not nearly as familiar with the ATF laws as many of you, but if they could leave off the grip, then leave it off the “platform” carbines as well. The more that people can accessorize themselves, the more accessories you can sell them. Especially, if they have a Colt logo and/or Pony on them. When you’re counting down the number of SOCOMs remaining by sometimes one a day, I don’t even think you could define that as lukewarm demand and if you were to argue that the difference in demand with the OEM1 was a direct result of the price point, then I would point out the fact that there are literally millions of Colt owners to whom the price of a SOCOM is a largely or entirely insignificant amount of money and yet they are still counting down by 1s. Okay, let me hear how wrong I am and how bad this idea is. ETA: And for f~ks sake, put M4 CARBINE back on the carbines or even COLT CARBINE if nothing else. View Quote Yeah those lowers marked "Carbine" are terrible. And I agree with your take. I think the SOCOMs being sold are either 1) people who have wanted one but who did not want to pay the insane 3-4x cost over the last 12-18 months or 2) folks who just want the lower and will offload the upper ASAP. |
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Quoted: They didn’t exactly fly off the shelves, when compared to the OEM1s. The same number of OEM1s would have sold out in three days. I think the fact that there hadn’t been a single OEM1 for sale for a long time on GB, until GTD put ONE up recently, also demonstrates the difference in demand. People want them for themselves, they aren’t buying them to flip them on GB, like you’re seeing with the SOCOM. CZ may want to take notice of the success that SIG has had with the P320s and P365/XL business strategies and the possibility that they could do something similar with the 6920. Offer two complete carbines, but also offer two “platform” carbines, because it’s blatantly obvious that there is a strong demand for the OEM1 and to a lesser extent the OEM2. They could then place more focus than they currently do on marketing their own accessories and “upgrade” accessories, as well as having manufacturers like Centurion, as an example, make a FF handguard for them with a Colt logo on it. I’m not nearly as familiar with the ATF laws as many of you, but if they could leave off the grip, then leave it off the “platform” carbines as well. The more that people can accessorize themselves, the more accessories you can sell them. Especially, if they have a Colt logo and/or Pony on them. When you’re counting down the number of SOCOMs remaining by sometimes one a day, I don’t even think you could define that as lukewarm demand and if you were to argue that the difference in demand with the OEM1 was a direct result of the price point, then I would point out the fact that there are literally millions of Colt owners to whom the price of a SOCOM is a largely or entirely insignificant amount of money and yet they are still counting down by 1s. Okay, let me hear how wrong I am and how bad this idea is. ETA: And for f~ks sake, put M4 CARBINE back on the carbines or even COLT CARBINE if nothing else. View Quote I wonder if price tag also plays a part in speed of sales for the two; one is 7-800ish bones whilst the other is at least double. |
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Just picked up mine from my ffl I ordered from Clyde’s. Amazingly fast shipping, they’ve definitely earned a new customer!
I was pleasantly surprised that the upper has the cage code on it. Although I don’t know if I’ve ever bought a new gun with as much oil on it. I need to get it cleaned up, I couldn’t even tell if the carrier is marked or not it has so much oil/ grease on it. Fit is nice and tight too. |
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Picking one up tomorrow. I have the Trump era release and this one will be addition to the stable. I shoot them though
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