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Posted: 2/5/2014 8:21:08 PM EDT
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I've been trying to login to the Eforms site since Sunday, and always keep getting this page: eForms Outage Due to daily maintenance, the e-Forms system is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you in advance for your cooperation and patience. ASSISTANCE: Please direct questions to the OST Customer Support Help Desk at 1-877-875-3723 or [email protected]. ------------------------ This happens at all hours throughout the day. Is anybody seeing the same thing? I've used different browsers and I'm seeing the same page. Clear out your cookies/cache and try again. Even try a ''incognito browser window''. I had the best luck submitting my Form 4's (Yes Form 4's, my dealer lets me do it) in the early morning around 6-730 EST when most of the world is commuting or sleeping.... |
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Posted: 2/5/2014 9:12:50 PM EDT
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And what is your solution for the CLEO signature, seeing as how the dealer has to submit the Form 4. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still would like them to do efile for those of us not wanting to go get a trust done. I cant find a local lawyer even wanting to touch it when I explain why I want to do one. You need to find an attorney that specializes in NFA trusts. Any other attorney would have no clue. Firearms Industry Consulting Group I can tell you the answer though. Legal entities don't require fingerprints, photographs or CLEO signatures... Kind of hard to do all of those electronically. The PSP does fingerprints electronically, and sends them to the FBI and DHS. They could be done once and kept on file with the ATF, and you can esign your tax return so that dog wont hunt. And what is your solution for the CLEO signature, seeing as how the dealer has to submit the Form 4. Get rid of it. |
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Posted: 2/5/2014 9:14:49 PM EDT
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Get rid of it. I was operating with the presumption nothing changes. If that's not the case get rid of the fingerprints and photo too. |
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Posted: 2/5/2014 11:06:49 PM EDT
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I was operating with the presumption nothing changes. If that's not the case get rid of the fingerprints and photo too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Get rid of it. I was operating with the presumption nothing changes. If that's not the case get rid of the fingerprints and photo too. Shit we should be able to walk into a store pay our tax stamp, fill out a 4473 and leave with a suppressor in hand. I wonder what the liberals would do if we proposed a $200 tax and a 3 to 9 month wait for approval by the feds for an abortion 
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Posted: 2/6/2014 6:35:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryClear out your cookies/cache and try again. Even try a ''incognito browser window''. I had the best luck submitting my Form 4's (Yes Form 4's, my dealer lets me do it) in the early morning around 6-730 EST when most of the world is commuting or sleeping.... Clearing out my cache worked. Thanks! I received an email that my Form 1 is SUBMITTED/IN PROCESS. How long does it take until I go pending? This is my first Form 1 using Eforms. Thanks! |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 7:13:00 AM EDT
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Clearing out my cache worked. Thanks! I received an email that my Form 1 is SUBMITTED/IN PROCESS. How long does it take until I go pending? This is my first Form 1 using Eforms. Thanks! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Clear out your cookies/cache and try again. Even try a ''incognito browser window''. I had the best luck submitting my Form 4's (Yes Form 4's, my dealer lets me do it) in the early morning around 6-730 EST when most of the world is commuting or sleeping.... Clearing out my cache worked. Thanks! I received an email that my Form 1 is SUBMITTED/IN PROCESS. How long does it take until I go pending? This is my first Form 1 using Eforms. Thanks! Submitted/InProcess is the E-form version of "pending" |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 7:22:59 AM EDT
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Shit we should be able to walk into a store pay our tax stamp, fill out a 4473 and leave with a suppressor in hand. I don't disagree with you at all. I've been saying that forever. |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 10:19:38 AM EDT
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I wonder what the liberals would do if we proposed a $200 tax and a 3 to 9 month wait for approval by the feds for an abortion Lol |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 10:44:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wonder what the liberals would do if we proposed a $200 tax and a 3 to 9 month wait for approval by the feds for an abortion Lol |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 1:35:13 PM EDT
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I don't disagree with you at all. I've been saying that forever. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Shit we should be able to walk into a store pay our tax stamp, fill out a 4473 and leave with a suppressor in hand. I don't disagree with you at all. I've been saying that forever. Actually we should be able to walk into a store and leave with a suppressor in hand without paying for a tax stamp and filling out a form (IMO) ETA: Not meant to be smartass if it comes across that way... |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 2:29:10 PM EDT
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Clearing out my cache worked. Thanks! I received an email that my Form 1 is SUBMITTED/IN PROCESS. How long does it take until I go pending? This is my first Form 1 using Eforms. Thanks! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Clear out your cookies/cache and try again. Even try a ''incognito browser window''. I had the best luck submitting my Form 4's (Yes Form 4's, my dealer lets me do it) in the early morning around 6-730 EST when most of the world is commuting or sleeping.... Clearing out my cache worked. Thanks! I received an email that my Form 1 is SUBMITTED/IN PROCESS. How long does it take until I go pending? This is my first Form 1 using Eforms. Thanks! you will have a stamp in 90-120 days if the approval trend holds. |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 2:39:30 PM EDT
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No efile approvals in a week and a half. It appears they stopped right at November 1 submissions. Is the testing phase over? Are the efiles now slotted with the paper files? Was it the computer issues that prevented approvals? I thought for sure I'd get both of my November 4's this week but I guess not.
 
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Posted: 2/6/2014 2:53:28 PM EDT
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No efile approvals in a week and a half. It appears they stopped right at November 1 submissions. Is the testing phase over? Are the efiles now slotted with the paper files? Was it the computer issues that prevented approvals? I thought for sure I'd get both of my November 4's this week but I guess not. I hope not. I have an 11/8 that I'm waiting on. |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 3:57:41 PM EDT
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No efile approvals in a week and a half. It appears they stopped right at November 1 submissions. Is the testing phase over? Are the efiles now slotted with the paper files? Was it the computer issues that prevented approvals? I thought for sure I'd get both of my November 4's this week but I guess not. I kind of doubt it. I think the system issues are on both sides of the equation. |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 5:06:59 PM EDT
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This week may be a paper form only week to catch up on those.
I bet we'll see E-forms being approved again next week. |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 5:29:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No efile approvals in a week and a half. It appears they stopped right at November 1 submissions. Is the testing phase over? Are the efiles now slotted with the paper files? Was it the computer issues that prevented approvals? I thought for sure I'd get both of my November 4's this week but I guess not. |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 7:00:08 PM EDT
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This week may be a paper form only week to catch up on those. I bet we'll see E-forms being approved again next week. I bet we'll see some tomorrow. In case you all missed it, the East Coast got hammered this week. I know, I drove for 11 hours through it. |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 7:24:50 PM EDT
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I've got a Socom 762-rc from 11/5 and an Octane 45HD from 11/15.
I wasn't expecting to see them until the end of this year, early next. I hope the 90 day trend keeps up. |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 7:31:36 PM EDT
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I've got a Socom 762-rc from 11/5 and an Octane 45HD from 11/15. I wasn't expecting to see them until the end of this year, early next. I hope the 90 day trend keeps up. Are you saying you received the efile stamps back today on both? |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 8:08:23 PM EDT
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Are you saying you received the efile stamps back today on both? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've got a Socom 762-rc from 11/5 and an Octane 45HD from 11/15. I wasn't expecting to see them until the end of this year, early next. I hope the 90 day trend keeps up. Are you saying you received the efile stamps back today on both? No, still waiting like everyone else. I'm just hoping the 90-120 day trend keeps up. I was expecting 1yr+. |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 8:17:32 PM EDT
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Actually we should be able to walk into a store and leave with a suppressor in hand without paying for a tax stamp and filling out a form (IMO) ETA: Not meant to be smartass if it comes across that way... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Shit we should be able to walk into a store pay our tax stamp, fill out a 4473 and leave with a suppressor in hand. I don't disagree with you at all. I've been saying that forever. Actually we should be able to walk into a store and leave with a suppressor in hand without paying for a tax stamp and filling out a form (IMO) ETA: Not meant to be smartass if it comes across that way... 
No worries I agree with you, but lets use the liberal approach of incrementalism against them. Get rid of the approval BS then go after the tax stamp. |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 9:04:58 PM EDT
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I finally get to post my good news, the call came today. Spectre II and Octane 45 both approved. Went pending 10/29/13, so 100 days. I'll be picking them up Saturday morning, along with an HK45 tactical FDE. I have new unfired 10/22 TDT and 22/45 Lite already. All 5 new toys should be nice and dirty by mid afternoon.
Should have a Specwar 7.62 and SBR Form 1 (300blk) within another month, then a Warlock II by late March. 
ETA - 100 days, and my 100th post. I know, pretty sad post count for 3 years... |
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Posted: 2/7/2014 2:55:45 AM EDT
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I'm hoping for a good Friday...come on 10/31s - I'm looking forward to my first can.
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Posted: 2/7/2014 9:58:56 AM EDT
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2 form 1 SBR applications submitted 10/31
Just approved.
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Posted: 2/7/2014 10:08:09 AM EDT
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2 form 1 SBR applications submitted 10/31 Just approved. Can you tell us all but the last couple of digits of your control/application number? |
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Posted: 2/7/2014 10:29:12 AM EDT
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2 form 1 SBR applications submitted 10/31 Just approved. About damn time. Open the flood gates!
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Posted: 2/7/2014 10:39:19 AM EDT
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2 form 1 SBR applications submitted 10/31 Just approved. Let there be light! Eform approvals have been brought back to life! Come on 11/19! |
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Posted: 2/7/2014 10:45:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you tell us all but the last couple of digits of your control/application number? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 2 form 1 SBR applications submitted 10/31 Just approved. Can you tell us all but the last couple of digits of your control/application number? 2014175xx ETA: incorrect numbers corrected |
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Posted: 2/7/2014 11:06:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ... Come on 11/19 23 ! Fixed it for you... er, for me.  May we both get happy, happy, happy news soon.
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Posted: 2/7/2014 11:12:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fixed it for you... er, for me for me! May we both get happy, happy, happy news soon. May the govt shut down after mine are approved. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ... Come on 11/19 23 12! Fixed it for you... er, for me for me! May we both get happy, happy, happy news soon. May the govt shut down after mine are approved. |
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Posted: 2/7/2014 11:25:11 AM EDT
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2 form 1 SBR applications submitted 10/31 Just approved. Can you tell us all but the last couple of digits of your control/application number? ETA: incorrect numbers corrected Still ~5500 forms till my 11/12 submission of my forum 1. |
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Posted: 2/7/2014 1:18:00 PM EDT
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Come on 11/25! SBR stamp form 1
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Posted: 2/7/2014 4:39:25 PM EDT
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4 forms approved on 1/28 but apparently my dealer just forgot to contact me
So hopefully by Tuesday I'll have my Sparrow, Warlock Spec War and Tirant 9. Never again. |
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Posted: 2/7/2014 4:42:16 PM EDT
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Still ~5500 forms till my 11/12 submission of my forum 1. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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2 form 1 SBR applications submitted 10/31 Just approved. Can you tell us all but the last couple of digits of your control/application number? ETA: incorrect numbers corrected Still ~5500 forms till my 11/12 submission of my forum 1. About 39000 til mine comes up. Sent on 1/5/14 My first number, did 3 form 1's in 3 days, is 20145652x |
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Posted: 2/7/2014 5:04:41 PM EDT
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Filed today.
Permit/Control No: 2014795XX
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Posted: 2/7/2014 5:05:48 PM EDT
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Still ~5500 forms till my 11/12 submission of my forum 1. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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2 form 1 SBR applications submitted 10/31 Just approved. Can you tell us all but the last couple of digits of your control/application number? ETA: incorrect numbers corrected Still ~5500 forms till my 11/12 submission of my forum 1. Me too. This will be my first form 1. Guna be here quicker than the one I mailed off in May 
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Posted: 2/7/2014 5:39:24 PM EDT
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Only about 58,000 until mine comes up. And that is E-forms. Wonder what it is including paper?
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Posted: 2/7/2014 7:36:14 PM EDT
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Another 16,000 forms before my 11/26. Somehow I doubt I'll see it by Feb. 26.
50,000 forms before my 1/23. 
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Posted: 2/7/2014 8:48:22 PM EDT
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Feel like we're playing bingo - c'mon 11/15!
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Posted: 2/8/2014 12:14:03 AM EDT
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E file today 201479xxx
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Posted: 2/8/2014 8:49:38 AM EDT
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Another 16,000 forms before my 11/26. Somehow I doubt I'll see it by Feb. 26. 50,000 forms before my 1/23. I don't expect my early December submission until late March/early April. People really need to stop spouting off the 90 day estimate because it only applied to the early forms. The times have steadily increased and I doubt people submitting today will see theirs back in less than 5 months. |
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Posted: 2/8/2014 9:46:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't expect my early December submission until late March/early April. People really need to stop spouting off the 90 day estimate because it only applied to the early forms. The times have steadily increased and I doubt people submitting today will see theirs back in less than 5 months. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Another 16,000 forms before my 11/26. Somehow I doubt I'll see it by Feb. 26. 50,000 forms before my 1/23. I don't expect my early December submission until late March/early April. People really need to stop spouting off the 90 day estimate because it only applied to the early forms. The times have steadily increased and I doubt people submitting today will see theirs back in less than 5 months. |
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Posted: 2/8/2014 11:27:30 AM EDT
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You are 100% incorrect and have no idea what you are talking about, sir. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Another 16,000 forms before my 11/26. Somehow I doubt I'll see it by Feb. 26. 50,000 forms before my 1/23. I don't expect my early December submission until late March/early April. People really need to stop spouting off the 90 day estimate because it only applied to the early forms. The times have steadily increased and I doubt people submitting today will see theirs back in less than 5 months. Two weeks ago they got back down to 90 days. We're now at 100 days. If it hadn't been for the government shutdown jump, we'd be over 110 days easily. I certainly know what I'm talking about, especially since I have E-forms scattered all the way from mid September to late January. Continually telling everyone that they're going to get their e-forms back in 90 days is just going to create a lot of angst. |
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Posted: 2/8/2014 11:40:58 AM EDT
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Two weeks ago they got back down to 90 days. We're now at 100 days. If it hadn't been for the government shutdown jump, we'd be over 110 days easily. I certainly know what I'm talking about, especially since I have E-forms scattered all the way from mid September to late January. Continually telling everyone that they're going to get their e-forms back in 90 days is just going to create a lot of angst. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Another 16,000 forms before my 11/26. Somehow I doubt I'll see it by Feb. 26. 50,000 forms before my 1/23. I don't expect my early December submission until late March/early April. People really need to stop spouting off the 90 day estimate because it only applied to the early forms. The times have steadily increased and I doubt people submitting today will see theirs back in less than 5 months. Two weeks ago they got back down to 90 days. We're now at 100 days. If it hadn't been for the government shutdown jump, we'd be over 110 days easily. I certainly know what I'm talking about, especially since I have E-forms scattered all the way from mid September to late January. Continually telling everyone that they're going to get their e-forms back in 90 days is just going to create a lot of angst. I think he's just in denial...
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Posted: 2/8/2014 12:02:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think he's just in denial... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Another 16,000 forms before my 11/26. Somehow I doubt I'll see it by Feb. 26. 50,000 forms before my 1/23. I don't expect my early December submission until late March/early April. People really need to stop spouting off the 90 day estimate because it only applied to the early forms. The times have steadily increased and I doubt people submitting today will see theirs back in less than 5 months. Two weeks ago they got back down to 90 days. We're now at 100 days. If it hadn't been for the government shutdown jump, we'd be over 110 days easily. I certainly know what I'm talking about, especially since I have E-forms scattered all the way from mid September to late January. Continually telling everyone that they're going to get their e-forms back in 90 days is just going to create a lot of angst. I think he's just in denial... |
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Posted: 2/8/2014 12:31:18 PM EDT
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I meant you're in denial about the waits not getting longer...
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Posted: 2/8/2014 12:57:09 PM EDT
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I called yesterday for a suppressor I bought through Silencershop. The email I received from them said the eform was submitted 10/29, but the ATF told me it went pending 12/17 and it would be 9 months from that date. Shouldn't my pending date be 10/29?
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Posted: 2/8/2014 1:36:30 PM EDT
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I called yesterday for a suppressor I bought through Silencershop. The email I received from them said the eform was submitted 10/29, but the ATF told me it went pending 12/17 and it would be 9 months from that date. Shouldn't my pending date be 10/29? It sounds like they snail mailed it instead of efile. Silencershop snail mailed my Form 4 in October also. It'll be August until I get that can.
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Posted: 2/8/2014 1:38:00 PM EDT
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I called yesterday for a suppressor I bought through Silencershop. The email I received from them said the eform was submitted 10/29, but the ATF told me it went pending 12/17 and it would be 9 months from that date. Shouldn't my pending date be 10/29? Did Silencer Shop submit it as a paper form? I thought Silencer Shop was submitting all Form 4's now as eForms? If it was an eForm submission then this sounds wrong - should be 3-4 months for approval (with approval being imminent) and the pending date should have been the submission date. If Silencer Shop submitted it as a paper form then what ATF told you makes sense. |
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Posted: 2/8/2014 2:13:00 PM EDT
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I meant you're in denial about the waits not getting longer... That's how I read it 
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