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3/21/2019 5:44:32 AM EDT
Whenever someone suggests putting a manual safety on a Glock, I kind of want to punch them in the throat. But I would be okay with a grip safety.

So for those who hate Glock because of no manual safety, would a grip safety suffice?

And for those who already love Glocks just the way they are, would the addition of a grip safety be a negative, positive, or neutral for you?
3/21/2019 5:45:35 AM EDT
[#1]
Unecessary parts just lead to problems.

Glock is perfection.
3/21/2019 5:47:14 AM EDT
[#2]
Terrible idea.

I forgot the member here but his 1911 grip safety almost got him killed. He got shot in the hand and couldn't actuate it. No thanks.
3/21/2019 5:47:44 AM EDT
[#3]
Those people still won’t carry with one in the chamber.
3/21/2019 5:47:59 AM EDT
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This is my chief complaint with XD's...besides being Springfield knife in back Arms.

One of our own Arfcommer's who was in a self defense shooting had his hand injured in the shooting and couldn't grip his pistol properly to disengage the grip safety on (I want to say it was a 1911). He'd probably gotten the dirt bag had that not happened as I understand it.
3/21/2019 5:48:20 AM EDT
[#5]
I like grip safeties myself. I think one would be very good for Glocks.
3/21/2019 5:49:35 AM EDT
[#6]
Nope
3/21/2019 5:50:00 AM EDT
[#7]
Gay
3/21/2019 5:51:13 AM EDT
[#8]
I would feel bad.  Very bad.
3/21/2019 5:51:16 AM EDT
[#9]
I have always been of the mindset, if I pull the trigger, I want it to fire, period. I don't want a magazine disconnect, and I don't want a manual safety, hell I don't want a chamber flag either. A proper holster, round chambered and not being a idiot are all that's needed. (about the round chambered, leave it chambered unless cleaning and you never have to wonder)
3/21/2019 5:54:53 AM EDT
[#10]
I'm not a fan of grip safeties.
3/21/2019 5:59:09 AM EDT
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Unecessary parts just lead to problems.

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That is a good point, and I tend to agree on principle. That said, grip safeties have proven pretty reliable, so if a case can be made that they make for a tangibly safer pistol then maybe they're worth it. I don't know, just playing devil's advocate.

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Terrible idea.

I forgot the member here but his 1911 grip safety almost got him killed. He got shot in the hand and couldn't actuate it. No thanks.
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Also a good point. That said, this is admittedly a very rare and probably even isolated incident. 1911s have obviously been around for a long, long time, and this is the first I've ever heard of that. Though it is a good illustration of why superfluous parts and features can lead to unforeseen consequences.

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Maybe so, though some of them might be convinced that it's safe with the addition of a grip safety. My understanding is that 99/100 accidents involving Glocks are during reholstering, and a grip safety, combined with proper training, would eliminate those. If you place your thumb on the back of the slide while reholstering, like you should, then the grip safety will activate and save you in the event that your shirt tail gets caught in the trigger guard or something.
3/21/2019 6:00:33 AM EDT
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Well...  half of that is correct.
3/21/2019 6:01:20 AM EDT
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3/21/2019 6:01:44 AM EDT
[#14]
Last month I got my 1st XD, a used 4" Mod 2 .45 (for a steal) and I have discovered the grip safety is a non issue.

So, no, it wouldn't bother me if my Glocks had grip safeties. In particular, there is NO way I would pull trigger on my G36
WITHOUT a firm grip upon the frame, that little sumbitch would fly out of my hand otherwise.
3/21/2019 6:03:38 AM EDT
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I like grip safeties myself. I think one would be very good for Glocks.
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May as well toss in a hard to deactivate mag safety why you are about it.
3/21/2019 6:06:15 AM EDT
[#16]
If we got to go with a second safety on the Glock I would rather have the setup the army just turned down the trials.
3/21/2019 6:08:30 AM EDT
[#17]
Would not want or buy.
3/21/2019 6:09:55 AM EDT
[#18]
No.

It would be a negative, and I would never buy one with any additional safety.
3/21/2019 6:15:00 AM EDT
[#19]
It already has enough safeties built into it.
3/21/2019 6:15:44 AM EDT
[#20]
Wouldn’t stop somebody shooting themselves in the leg while holstering their glock with their finger on the trigger
3/21/2019 6:18:33 AM EDT
[#21]
Just get an XD.
3/21/2019 6:20:37 AM EDT
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Wouldn’t stop somebody shooting themselves in the leg while holstering their glock with their finger on the trigger
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You can't fix stupid
3/21/2019 6:23:52 AM EDT
[#23]
OP's avatar is my grip safety.
3/21/2019 6:24:25 AM EDT
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I like grip safeties myself. I think one would be very good for Glocks.
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As do I, but I know GD will go insane at that idea.
Doesn't affect me, as so long as Glock puts those stupid finger grooves I will not use them. I will use the P80s
3/21/2019 6:29:02 AM EDT
[#25]
You could always tape it down and appear extra elite tactical operator

So there’s that
3/21/2019 6:29:05 AM EDT
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One of our own Arfcommer's who was in a self defense shooting had his hand injured in the shooting and couldn't grip his pistol properly to disengage the grip safety on (I want to say it was a 1911). He'd probably gotten the dirt bag had that not happened as I understand it.
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This is why you practice offhand shooting....
3/21/2019 6:31:54 AM EDT
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One of our own Arfcommer's who was in a self defense shooting had his hand injured in the shooting and couldn't grip his pistol properly to disengage the grip safety on (I want to say it was a 1911). He'd probably gotten the dirt bag had that not happened as I understand it.
This is why you practice offhand shooting....
Iirc it was a long time ago I read it first On a  1911 forum he either had blood on his off hand or was injured in that too.

I also remember the bad guy hearing the 1911 safety cluck off which started it all or that’s what was mentioned in his original post.

Dan Wesson 10mm I think. Could be wrong it was ages ago.
3/21/2019 6:37:13 AM EDT
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Whenever someone suggests putting a manual safety on a Glock, I kind of want to punch them in the throat. But I would be okay with a grip safety.

So for those who hate Glock because of no manual safety, would a grip safety suffice?

And for those who already love Glocks just the way they are, would the addition of a grip safety be a negative, positive, or neutral for you?
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OP,

We have a member that was involved in a defensive shooting. If I remember right he was unable to return fire because he got shot in the hand and couldn't engage the grip safety...

I may be remembering wrong. I believe it was a XD.

EDIT: Beat....
3/21/2019 6:39:31 AM EDT
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Iirc it was a long time ago I read it first On a  1911 forum he either had blood on his off hand or was injured in that too.

I also remember the bad guy hearing the 1911 safety cluck off which started it all or that’s what was mentioned in his original post.

Dan Wesson 10mm I think. Could be wrong it was ages ago.
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One of our own Arfcommer's who was in a self defense shooting had his hand injured in the shooting and couldn't grip his pistol properly to disengage the grip safety on (I want to say it was a 1911). He'd probably gotten the dirt bag had that not happened as I understand it.
This is why you practice offhand shooting....
Iirc it was a long time ago I read it first On a  1911 forum he either had blood on his off hand or was injured in that too.

I also remember the bad guy hearing the 1911 safety cluck off which started it all or that’s what was mentioned in his original post.

Dan Wesson 10mm I think. Could be wrong it was ages ago.
You know what, if I get shot in the hand, I think I'll just go ahead and die. That's such an unlikely situation.
3/21/2019 6:40:21 AM EDT
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I'm not a fan of grip safeties.
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3/21/2019 6:45:17 AM EDT
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My  concern is they would cheap out on multiple use parts to make common between the traditional and safety added models and that almost always is a compromise in some way.

I'd never get one with a safety.
3/21/2019 6:46:51 AM EDT
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3/21/2019 6:47:29 AM EDT
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3/21/2019 6:51:19 AM EDT
[#34]
FPNI.
3/21/2019 6:57:34 AM EDT
[#35]
OP you could always add that $90 dingle berry dohicky to the  striker plate to keep from a ND when holstering.
3/21/2019 6:58:22 AM EDT
[#36]
The P7 makes my taint wet. Because of Gruber I own one...
3/21/2019 7:00:55 AM EDT
[#37]
I hate grip safety. My favorite pistol is my p226. No safety. Just a 14lb da and cock the hammer you get a 3.25 lb sa
3/21/2019 7:03:41 AM EDT
[#38]
FPNI  
3/21/2019 7:14:32 AM EDT
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You know what, if I get shot in the hand, I think I'll just go ahead and die. That's such an unlikely situation.
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Not really.
3/21/2019 7:16:55 AM EDT
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3/21/2019 7:20:59 AM EDT
[#41]
I already own an XD.
3/21/2019 7:21:45 AM EDT
[#42]
Grip safeties were before safe action triggers.

Grip safety AND safe action triggers is super gay
3/21/2019 7:24:39 AM EDT
[#43]
Pants on head

I dumped the XD after a high speed/stress round in a shooting match. I didn't get a good grip on the thing, click, click, fire dang you!
Also it weighed a ton for no good reason.
3/21/2019 7:25:26 AM EDT
[#44]
Then it would be called a Springfield and not a glock.
3/21/2019 7:40:55 AM EDT
[#45]
Hello suddenly more complex and expensive glock handgun.

How bout no.
3/21/2019 7:45:12 AM EDT
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You know what, if I get shot in the hand, I think I'll just go ahead and die. That's such an unlikely situation.
Not really.
You think it's likely that you'll be shot in the hand?
3/21/2019 7:45:43 AM EDT
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Terrible idea.

I forgot the member here but his 1911 grip safety almost got him killed. He got shot in the hand and couldn't actuate it. No thanks.
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There’s a reason to train weak handed. You may not be able to grip a gun at all if shot in the hand. Should be training to clear and reload single handed too.
3/21/2019 7:46:26 AM EDT
[#48]
Same way I'd feel about Glocks... there are better options out there for me.

Grip safeties suck. I say this as a convert from, but still a fan of, 1911s.
3/21/2019 7:46:58 AM EDT
[#49]
Just carry with the slide locked back. Problem solved.
3/21/2019 7:51:58 AM EDT
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Plenty of pistols with grip safeties built into their design.

Glock does not.

Diversity is our strength.
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