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Posted: 5/26/2013 3:23:41 PM EDT
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.40 is a gimmick. 
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Posted: 5/26/2013 3:27:19 PM EDT
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Dudes got a nice place, other than being exploited by the baby killing far right I wonder what his day job is. He just passed the Texas bar exam |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 3:27:25 PM EDT
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He needs to do one that is titled
"Shit that .45ACP carriers say" |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 3:28:09 PM EDT
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Not a great picture, but it tells the tale of how poor 9mm NATO is. http://www.firearmstactical.com/images/Wound%20Profiles/9mm%20US%20M882.jpg This is honestly what most people don't realize. Ballistics tests do not show the permanent cavity, which is the most important factor. I think we can all agree that every handgun is under powered though. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 3:28:45 PM EDT
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Not a great picture, but it tells the tale of how poor 9mm NATO is. http://www.firearmstactical.com/images/Wound%20Profiles/9mm%20US%20M882.jpg That's why I bought 5k 124 grain and 5k 147 grain 9mm HST bullets. Fuck FMJ. 
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Posted: 5/26/2013 3:30:11 PM EDT
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Hilarious! I carry a G19 and 2 additional G17 mags loaded with 124 grn NATO. No whiz bang +p+ or $2,000 1911. Just a compact 9mm Glock and regular FMJ rounds. Reliability + Individual Performance = Carry gun win. Granted one round off the cheek bone night not vaporize a BG's melon, but said BG likely cease whatever it was he was doing that caused my to draw and shoot. I'm good with that. I'm not a glock owner just curious why you carry G17 mags and not G19 mags for a G19? Is it capacity? |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 3:32:52 PM EDT
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Hilarious! I carry a G19 and 2 additional G17 mags loaded with 124 grn NATO. No whiz bang +p+ or $2,000 1911. Just a compact 9mm Glock and regular FMJ rounds. Reliability + Individual Performance = Carry gun win. Granted one round off the cheek bone night not vaporize a BG's melon, but said BG likely cease whatever it was he was doing that caused my to draw and shoot. I'm good with that. I'm not a glock owner just curious why you carry G17 mags and not G19 mags for a G19? Is it capacity? +2 capacity. The 19 conceals better. Personally I'd carry a 19 magazine in my handgun and a 17 magazine as extra. You don't really need it, but better to have it and not need it. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 3:36:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: Dudes got a nice place, other than being exploited by the baby killing far right I wonder what his day job is. he's a lawyer |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 3:40:27 PM EDT
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The only Colion Noir video I've seen yet that's full of B.S..
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Posted: 5/26/2013 3:41:23 PM EDT
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Enjoy 
Edit: fixed embedding fail. I am not going to get those three minutes back, am I? |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 3:43:44 PM EDT
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.40 is a gimmick. Perhaps, but I can shoot it well, and quickly. And that's all I care about. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 3:45:52 PM EDT
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.40 is a gimmick. Perhaps, but I can shoot it well, and quickly. And that's all I care about. Exactly. Shoot the caliber you shoot the best. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 3:48:27 PM EDT
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How did we ever survive before the .40 Smith and Wesson came along? Handgun effectiveness was not what we thought it was, and we did not know the things we know now, nor did we have the design and technology that we have in bullets today. The .40 was, and is just fine. The emotional reaction of the knuckle dragging troglodytes that crow about it being stupid stem from some innate desire to make themselves feel more superior, in order to mask their own inferiorities, whether they be physical, mental, or in practical application of said weapons. Or they're just trolling GD...I don't know. No need to drag the .45ACP lovers into this. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 4:04:53 PM EDT
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9mm is best mm!
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Posted: 5/26/2013 4:10:28 PM EDT
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The only Colion Noir video I've seen yet that's full of B.S.. he carries a 9mm. i wonder what his screen name is. He has to be on ARFCOM. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 4:17:49 PM EDT
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Quoted: Not a great picture, but it tells the tale of how poor 9mm NATO is. http://www.firearmstactical.com/images/Wound%20Profiles/9mm%20US%20M882.jpg The same pic for .45 ball  |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 4:31:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How did we ever survive before the .40 Smith and Wesson came along? Handgun effectiveness was not what we thought it was, and we did not know the things we know now, nor did we have the design and technology that we have in bullets today. The .40 was, and is just fine. The emotional reaction of the knuckle dragging troglodytes that crow about it being stupid stem from some innate desire to make themselves feel more superior, in order to mask their own inferiorities, whether they be physical, mental, or in practical application of said weapons. Or they're just trolling GD...I don't know. No need to drag the .45ACP lovers into this. True...but most .45 ACP lovers are indeed fossils as they (self included) still love a 101 year old pistol in said caliber. Before I acquired a glock 23 and 35, I carried a commander with lawman ammo with a 200 grain flying ash trays....now I carry the 23 with 180 grain rangers. I do not feel under gunned with either. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 4:36:09 PM EDT
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Full of win. He is good! He has to be a member here and does the videos to troll
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Posted: 5/26/2013 4:39:54 PM EDT
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Dudes got a nice place, other than being exploited by the baby killing far right I wonder what his day job is. He's a lawyer. Got some good video's on youtube. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 4:50:56 PM EDT
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I do not feel under gunned with good quality JHP 9mm but neither do I worry about lack of ass in 45 ACP.
There are simply no other handguns that I shoot as well as the 1911. First round hits are critical to my way of thinking and the 1911 allows me to perform at my best.. Also, 124 grain 9mm may expand but 230 grain .45 ACP ain't gonna shrink. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 5:05:22 PM EDT
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fuck I carry a g19 with a g17mag and a toyota corolla 
Thats why that condom in my wallet is so old  You couldn't get laid on Bourbon St. with 500 bux in your wallet on Saturday night if you drove a Toyota Corolla and carried a 9mm. 
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Posted: 5/26/2013 5:37:16 PM EDT
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Hilarious! I carry a G19 and 2 additional G17 mags loaded with 124 grn NATO. No whiz bang +p+ or $2,000 1911. Just a compact 9mm Glock and regular FMJ rounds. Reliability + Individual Performance = Carry gun win. Granted one round off the cheek bone night not vaporize a BG's melon, but said BG likely cease whatever it was he was doing that caused my to draw and shoot. I'm good with that. I'm not a glock owner just curious why you carry G17 mags and not G19 mags for a G19? Is it capacity? +2 capacity. The 19 conceals better. Personally I'd carry a 19 magazine in my handgun and a 17 magazine as extra. You don't really need it, but better to have it and not need it. I should have clarified, apologies. The pistol has a G19 mag in it. My spare mags are G17. I carry 2 spare mags holding 34 rounds and 15 + 1 in the pistol bringing my total capacity to 50 rounds. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 6:16:19 PM EDT
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OK I'm confused, is he bashing 9mm?
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Posted: 5/26/2013 6:19:09 PM EDT
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Not a great picture, but it tells the tale of how poor 9mm NATO is. http://www.firearmstactical.com/images/Wound%20Profiles/9mm%20US%20M882.jpg I appreciate what you're saying about ball, really I do and I get it. I also understand that there are stories out there about people that get hit and keep on coming. There are also stories about deer running for 1/2 a mile after being hit with 30.06. Weird shit happens when bullets hit tissue, there are lots of variables involved and that's why most people that take CCW seriously train to shoot to stop the threat. I not an expert and I don't pretend to be and it would be foolish of me not to examine my ammo choice after reading what people say that know what they are talking about. So when ammo comes back down to Earth, hopefully sometime soon, I'll invest in 500 rounds of good stuff to work with. After all, why not?
What I do know is that I can hit a silhouette center mass consistently at 30 yards while shooting what I consider to be reasonably quickly, and head shots are doable if I slow down a little. If a BG isn't dead after being ventilated with 124 grn NATO, he sure as hell isn't going to be in the condition to pursue me. 
And yeah GD ninjas, I know it can be tightened up a little.
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Posted: 5/26/2013 6:25:10 PM EDT
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.40 is a gimmick. I felt the same way, but after seeing how things have been the last 6 months, I'll be adding a M&P .40 to the collection. Instead of paying for an MP you could just buy 3000 rds of 9mm and the next panic will not be an issue for you. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 6:31:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Full of win. He is good! He has to be a member here and does the videos to troll He is (or is just a lurker). Someone was ragging on him wearing skinny jeans in this thread and then he made a comment on his FB page about it(see page 2) |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 6:36:08 PM EDT
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I love 9mm and I love .45acp.
I have made my peace with, and carry 9mm. More bangs in the gun is better. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 6:38:16 PM EDT
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I carry a 40s&w because I can ALWAYS find ammo on the shelf for it... I can't say that about 9 or 45... - Clint hmmm I wonder why ... |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 6:42:33 PM EDT
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I would say he hit the nail on the head.
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Posted: 5/26/2013 6:43:13 PM EDT
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Not a great picture, but it tells the tale of how poor 9mm NATO is. http://www.firearmstactical.com/images/Wound%20Profiles/9mm%20US%20M882.jpg I appreciate what you're saying about ball, really I do and I get it. I also understand that there are stories out there about people that get hit and keep on coming. There are also stories about deer running for 1/2 a mile after being hit with 30.06. Weird shit happens when bullets hit tissue, there are lots of variables involved and that's why most people that take CCW seriously train to shoot to stop the threat. I not an expert and I don't pretend to be and it would be foolish of me not to examine my ammo choice after reading what people say that know what they are talking about. So when ammo comes back down to Earth, hopefully sometime soon, I'll invest in 500 rounds of good stuff to work with. After all, why not?
What I do know is that I can hit a silhouette center mass consistently at 30 yards while shooting what I consider to be reasonably quickly, and head shots are doable if I slow down a little. If a BG isn't dead after being ventilated with 124 grn NATO, he sure as hell isn't going to be in the condition to pursue me. http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb265/krb57610/Glock17_zpsb3fb8ff5.jpg And yeah GD ninjas, I know it can be tightened up a little. I have a video for you. 
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Posted: 5/26/2013 6:45:18 PM EDT
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skip it carry 357 mag
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Posted: 5/26/2013 7:07:13 PM EDT
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Not a great picture, but it tells the tale of how poor 9mm NATO is. http://www.firearmstactical.com/images/Wound%20Profiles/9mm%20US%20M882.jpg The same pic for .45 ball http://www.firearmstactical.com/images/Wound%20Profiles/45ACP%20230gr%20FMJ.jpg Was waiting for somebody to post that. The lesson we all should be learning right now is that: 1. Most modern auto pistol rounds suck. 2. .45 and 9mm both suck about the same. 3. .40SW is gay and sucks the most of all. 4. JHP bullets suck slightly less than FMJ bullets. 5. If you want to be sure your target will STFU and die, bring a fucking rifle. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 7:10:55 PM EDT
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It's been awhile since I got to participate in a .40 hate fest
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Posted: 5/26/2013 7:13:25 PM EDT
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.40 is a gimmick. Best gimmick ever |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 7:14:23 PM EDT
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Not a great picture, but it tells the tale of how poor 9mm NATO is. http://www.firearmstactical.com/images/Wound%20Profiles/9mm%20US%20M882.jpg The same pic for .45 ball http://www.firearmstactical.com/images/Wound%20Profiles/45ACP%20230gr%20FMJ.jpg Was waiting for somebody to post that. The lesson we all should be learning right now is that: 1. Most modern auto pistol rounds suck. 2. .45 and 9mm both suck about the same. 3. .40SW is gay and sucks the most of all. 4. JHP bullets suck slightly less than FMJ bullets. 5. If you want to be sure your target will STFU and die, bring a fucking rifle. This, especially this. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 7:15:46 PM EDT
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.40 is a gimmick. Best gimmick ever A fool and his money....... |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 7:19:04 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Dudes got a nice place, other than being exploited by the baby killing far right I wonder what his day job is. He's a lawyer. Got some good video's on youtube. Works for the NRA now http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/03/08/Russell-Simmons-S-ams-NRA-s-New-African-American-Spokesman |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 7:23:50 PM EDT
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.40 cal is best cal
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Posted: 5/26/2013 7:26:58 PM EDT
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.40 cal is best cal It's... at best, "a" caliber. I suppose if I had no handguns and wanted to get one right now it would be in the mix. But it does nothing for me that 9mm or .45acp doesn't already do. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 7:28:29 PM EDT
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.40 cal is best cal Basically a 13'er. ETA: I've been here 7 years, and this clown has out posted me in 7 months. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 8:00:08 PM EDT
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.40 cal is best cal Basically a 13'er. ETA: I've been here 7 years, and this clown has out posted me in 7 months. Not his fault you're slow.
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Posted: 5/26/2013 8:14:59 PM EDT
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Yep, and that sucking chest wound is God's way of letting you know it really didn't matter what caliber you caught, you're out of the game now.
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Posted: 5/26/2013 8:16:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: Congratulations. You're *that* guy. I think I spoke with your long lost brother tonight...espousing the virtues of how he is saving the 20 rounds of green tip his special forces neighbor gave him for when shit gets really bad. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 8:21:54 PM EDT
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Quoted: He needs to do one that is titled "Shit that .45ACP carriers say" Begins and ends with "one shot stop". |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 8:24:47 PM EDT
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http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm
9mm Glaser Blue 94% one shot stop 9x19 MagSafe Stealth +P 64gr.Frag. Kills a goat dead in less than 5 sec. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 8:29:50 PM EDT
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OK I'm confused, is he bashing 9mm? Nah, he is bashing the 9mm defenders. He carries a 9mm. |
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Posted: 5/26/2013 8:36:40 PM EDT
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9 mm Luger - 450 Joules 40 SW - 475 Joules 45 Auto - 485 Joules What do we learn from this small sample? All three rounds produce about the same energy at the muzzle, but .40SW is gay because it costs and recoils more. How do I know that the difference between 450 Joules and 475 or 480 Joules is insignificant? .223 - 1,740 Joules .308 - 3,550 Joules Because rifle rounds make pistol rounds look gay. Yup. Comparing pistol calibers is like comparing little league teams. They all suck about the same. http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq319/DocGKR/Handgun_gel_comparison.jpg http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww344/Jhatmaker24/10mm-1.jpg 
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Posted: 5/26/2013 8:40:14 PM EDT
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Terminal Ballistics as viewed in a morgue:
http://www.gunthorp.com/Terminal%20Ballistics%20as%20viewed%20in%20a%20morgue.htm |
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Posted: 5/27/2013 12:33:18 AM EDT
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http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm 9mm Glaser Blue 94% one shot stop 9x19 MagSafe Stealth +P 64gr.Frag. Kills a goat dead in less than 5 sec. 1: The "One shot stop" statistics are bullshit. He won't release his raw data; made it all up. 2: As far as anyone could ever find out, the Strasbourg Goat Test never happened. Charlatans, both of them. |
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Posted: 5/27/2013 12:35:43 AM EDT
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tag
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