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Posted: 10/12/2019 1:07:16 PM EDT

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~~Under construction since 2007 is what the newscaster said.~~ She was apparently wrong.

Posted: 10/12/2019 1:12:26 PM EDT

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Gonna take a long hose to get up there and clean off the seat.

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I'd wouldn't want to be one of the crane operators stuck up there.

Gonna take a long hose to get up there and clean off the seat.

No shit, look how much the cranes are swaying in the video.

Posted: 10/12/2019 1:15:26 PM EDT

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That will have long-lasting consequences for many people. The financial implications alone are enormous.

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Fucking good. Heads should role careers should be ruined.

At least one of each should be gone forever.

Inspector, engineer, builder.

Posted: 10/12/2019 1:15:47 PM EDT

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Posted: 10/12/2019 1:16:44 PM EDT

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http://www.citadelbuilders.com/CurrentNews13.html

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Posted: 10/12/2019 1:31:31 PM EDT

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My younger brother still lives there. He said they had some pretty bad weather last night with high winds and that started it. The workers building it also attribute the high winds as the catalyst.

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Yeah... no.

This was either a design flaw, or an implementation flaw.

Posted: 10/12/2019 1:36:17 PM EDT

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Not letting the floor cure before pouring the next one above it.

Posted: 10/12/2019 1:40:13 PM EDT

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Not letting the floor cure before pouring the next one above it.

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You can see darker shades of concrete showing under the lighter shades in the folded over concrete floors.

A lot of new photos at NOLA at the following link.

https://www.nola.com/news/article_1df7303e-ecfe-11e9-88d2-cb66b5309a90.html

Posted: 10/12/2019 1:41:10 PM EDT

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Posted: 10/12/2019 1:42:01 PM EDT

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A lot of decks. Not a lot of shoring.

*posted from a 22nd cast deck in downtown Denver

Posted: 10/12/2019 1:42:52 PM EDT

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Im surprised so many floors pancaked.

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One floor impacting the one underneath it starts the domino effect. After the first one goes and the second one gives it's weight to the mass of colliding and impacting the next floor, then hurling towards impacting the next one underneath it. So it's picking up velocity with each new floor collapsing and it's weight becoming part of the falling mass.

Posted: 10/12/2019 1:44:55 PM EDT

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H1B1 'engineers' is my guess.

Hopefully, injuries will be minor.

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Yikes, how does that happen?

Women engineers.

H1B1 'engineers' is my guess.

Hopefully, injuries will be minor.

Somebody cheating on QA/QC for the concrete. Flooding the mix with water to get more yards maybe?

Posted: 10/12/2019 1:45:02 PM EDT

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Damn you Bush!!!

Posted: 10/12/2019 1:45:15 PM EDT

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NOLA is saying there is a good chance more floors will collapse.

Posted: 10/12/2019 1:46:58 PM EDT

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Somebody cheating on QA/QC for the concrete. Flooding the mix with water to get more yards maybe?

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I’d bet $ that the shoring was pulled on the upper deck before it hit strength.

ETA: maybe not looks like a SOMD

Posted: 10/12/2019 1:53:15 PM EDT

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I've got tickets for a show in the building across the street on Wednesday. Pretty sure they will cancel all the shows until they secure the cranes.

Posted: 10/12/2019 1:57:05 PM EDT

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According to Jonathan Fourcade of New Orleans Emergency Medical Services, an urban search-and-rescue team is preparing to sweep the building for three missing workers despite fear of an additional crane collapse.

This team is comprised of NOEMS paramedics, firefighters and other regional first responders trained to find people trapped in rubble

Posted: 10/12/2019 1:59:03 PM EDT

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Women engineers.

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Diversity is our strength morons.

Txl

Posted: 10/12/2019 1:59:03 PM EDT

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Posted: 10/12/2019 2:00:07 PM EDT

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Jet fuel can't melt steel beams!

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They need find Rosie O'donnel and find out what happened.

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:03:29 PM EDT

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-syuqhC8Dc

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:04:24 PM EDT

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Probably time to close down from being an engineer and maybe try your hand at something else like floristry.

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Slow down there contractor guy. Contractors never screw up.

I went out on a job one day to see pallets of block stacked consecutively along the edge of an elevated slab.

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:05:03 PM EDT

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Hard Rock Hotel Collapse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LcgBccp_5k

VIDEO: Chaos moments after Hard Rock Hotel collapse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmzY-5WPM1A

Hard Rock Hotel collapse downtown New Orleans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps6A4PRsJRc

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:05:09 PM EDT

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Building on green concrete before it cures 'to meet deadlines' is bad news. Technology and cheaper, lighter materials along with bad engineering cause this type of collapse. Sadly its all too common. The stuff we build nowadays cannot hold a candle to structures built decades or even a century ago. It sucks because the workers always lose, whether it is death or permanent disability those guys and gals on that project will never be the same.

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:05:39 PM EDT

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The way those are bending, that thing is gonna collapse even more.

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:07:05 PM EDT

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High wind should not impact a building of that size/ construction.

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A partially enclosed building has higher wind loads than one that is completed.

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:07:11 PM EDT

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Somebody cheating on QA/QC for the concrete. Flooding the mix with water to get more yards maybe?

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Yikes, how does that happen?

Women engineers.

H1B1 'engineers' is my guess.

Hopefully, injuries will be minor.

Somebody cheating on QA/QC for the concrete. Flooding the mix with water to get more yards maybe?

Wouldn't be surprised if it was a combo of factors. None of which are good trade practices. Add in some bribery and you have a cluster fuck of criminality.

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:08:58 PM EDT

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Building on green concrete before it cures 'to meet deadlines' is bad news. Technology and cheaper, lighter materials along with bad engineering cause this type of collapse. Sadly its all too common. The stuff we build nowadays cannot hold a candle to structures built decades or even a century ago. It sucks because the workers always lose, whether it is death or permanent disability those guys and gals on that project will never be the same.

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The materials are fine, and as good if not better then what was available any time in the past. Cost cutting do to shitty contractors, and even shittier subs is the bigger issue. No-one gives a shit about the quality of their work.

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:10:14 PM EDT

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Debris scatters street at base of Hard Rock Hotel collapse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KovnqAZt7CM

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:12:34 PM EDT

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@BigEasySnow.

Everyone you know ok?

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:20:37 PM EDT

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Posted: 10/12/2019 2:27:06 PM EDT

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Good thing it happened at 9am on Saturday morning...everyone was still hungover and in bed from last night

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:31:39 PM EDT

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Concrete floor may have failed and started a chain reaction , Ive seen it happen , but on a much smaller scale ,

rip to the gang that didnt make it

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:34:14 PM EDT

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Damn.

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:37:57 PM EDT

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1 Dead, 3 Missing After Hard Rock Hotel Under Construction In New Orleans Collapsed | MSNBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ7cd2SHgRo

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:40:43 PM EDT

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Posted: 10/12/2019 2:43:27 PM EDT

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Someone has some 'splaining to do....

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:49:28 PM EDT

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So after a partial collapse like that is that building totaled? Or do they just repair and continue building?

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:50:36 PM EDT

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You can see a guy just outside the building as it collapses. Doesn't look like he made it. You have to watch it on full screen.

Watch Hard Rock building collapse new Orleans Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4W0a9fcKK8

Posted: 10/12/2019 2:56:02 PM EDT

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So after a partial collapse like that is that building totaled? Or do they just repair and continue building?

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Sometimes after a mess like that there isn't any "they" around to do anything at all. That can sink a builder fast.

Posted: 10/12/2019 3:22:02 PM EDT

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Wouldn't be surprised if it was a combo of factors. None of which are good trade practices. Add in some bribery and you have a cluster fuck of criminality.

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Yikes, how does that happen?

Women engineers.

H1B1 'engineers' is my guess.

Hopefully, injuries will be minor.

Somebody cheating on QA/QC for the concrete. Flooding the mix with water to get more yards maybe?

Wouldn't be surprised if it was a combo of factors. None of which are good trade practices. Add in some bribery and you have a cluster fuck of criminality.

My grandfather was the chief materials engineer on the interstate project in RI in the late 50s. He was offered $4,000 a month to approve substandard loads, which was about 3X his salary.

Posted: 10/12/2019 3:25:25 PM EDT

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... Gravity

Posted: 10/12/2019 3:43:48 PM EDT

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Posted: 10/12/2019 3:46:14 PM EDT

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Probably non union job and a cheap engineering firm , reinforced concrete should not do that
columns look to be to far apart , probably didn't have enough acro jacks to support the pour , what a shit show .

Posted: 10/12/2019 3:47:19 PM EDT

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10-12-2019 New Orleans, La Hard Rock Hotel collapse drone shots fom multiple angles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP4tbb8omHc

Posted: 10/12/2019 3:48:43 PM EDT

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My grandfather was the chief materials engineer on the interstate project in RI in the late 50s. He was offered $4,000 a month to approve substandard loads, which was about 3X his salary.

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Good for him doing the right thing.

Building in the NE has lots of bullshit attached to it. Probably explains why the Big Dig took so long and cost way too much.

Posted: 10/12/2019 3:54:40 PM EDT

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I'd wouldn't want to be one of the crane operators stuck up there.

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Why not? You're getting union scale.

Posted: 10/12/2019 4:00:35 PM EDT

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So after a partial collapse like that is that building totaled? Or do they just repair and continue building?

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My bet is it's totaled, the integrity in the rest of the building material and quality of work is compromised. I wouldn't want to stay in that structure in the future.