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Posted: 2/2/2023 1:59:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Culture changes with time, and that has real impact. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Homicide_rates1900-2001.jpg 1940-1964 was a relatively nice time in America. Actually, recently ~2000--2013 was as well (this was brought to an end by BLM and their enablers). The pre-1900s were even better. Homicide rate is a good proxy for how well a society behaves. The reality behind that graph has a few subtexts. Urban vs rural, demographics, cultural norms/mores, etc. The major push behind the numbers, is very un-Mayberry-ish. People love to get drunk and get high. The first spike correlates with initial drug acts and prohibition. The second spike correlates with new narcotics acts and the war on drugs. In a society that lets unproductive hardcore drunks and druggies wash out due to the consequences of their decision making skills and life choice, And a society that does not highly enhance the profitability of drugs/alcohol/distribution/territory- Recreational productive users and drinkers with fairly benign access to drugs and alcohol do not cause these spikes to the homicide rate. |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 2:11:46 PM EDT
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I grew up in the '50s in Cleveland, blue collar area. The black kids I played with had two parents, stay-at-home moms and fathers who went to work every day.
Andy Griffith no, but a lot better then when now when the majority of black kids are born out of wedlock. |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 2:21:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was the first show starring an openly gay couple. Howard Sprague?? |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 7:44:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Otis and Floyd the barber. I'm not 100% certain about Otis, but there's no way you can convince me that Floyd wasn't queer as fuck. Ohhh yeah, and Gomer too. Everyone in Mayberry knew about it and would gossip about his sexual preferences and perversions all the time. That's why he joined the Marines before the whole town was going to string him up from a lamp post when it was discovered he was diddling Opie behind the gas station. Why would you insult Jim Neighbors like that? He never harmed anyone, never spoke ill of anyone & did a lot of charity work. What he did in his private life is none of MY business at all. |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 9:11:04 PM EDT
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 Floyd The Barber (Remastered) "Floyd The Barber" Bell on door clangs, come on in Floyd observes my hairy chin Sit down chair, don't be afraid Steamed hot towel on my face I was shaved I was shaved I was shaved Barney ties me to the chair I can't see, I'm really scared Floyd breathes hard, I hear a zip Pee-pee pressed against my lips I was shamed I was shamed I was shamed I sense others in the room Opie, Aunt Bee, I presume They take turns and cut me up I die smothered in Aunt Bee's muff I was shamed I was shamed I was shamed |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 9:16:32 PM EDT
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Ffs you guys know how to ruin everything.
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Posted: 2/2/2023 9:20:47 PM EDT
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Quoted: Andy Griffith is a show that supposedly shows life in small town America in the 1950s and 1960s. The helpful neighb ors, police that don't even carry or need a gun, and communities that work together and take care of each other. Was this all a lie or was it really how it was in the 1950s and 1960s? Do people just want to believe thatw as what life was like even though it wasn't anything like that? 1) there is no such such thing as "town sheriff" or "city sheriff" something Hollyweird always gets wrong. It's county sheriff. 2) the is no such thing as a gunless sheriff. The handgun ban brainwashing started in the late 50s/early 60s on TV. FAGShow for that as well as libtard-leftist Andy Griffith. The rest of the show with people being nice did reflect that era. |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 9:22:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/2/2023 9:27:53 PM EDT
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My small WI town was like that in the 70's and 80's.
Someone too drunk to drive? Cop would take them home. Someone needed help? People would flock to the house to help. Barn burned down? Roll up your sleeves, we got a barn raising on Saturday! (Those were great times) Sadly, the cop being nice to drunks ended when he told a drunk to go straight home. Instead he headed to a bar out of town, made a left turn into the parking lot and my friend Scott and his girlfriend hit the right front quarter panel at 60 mph on their motorcycle. After Jacob Wetterling went missing, kids weren't allowed to be out any more because everyone believed they would be snatched. Then the Gen Xers started having kids and rather than allow their kids the freedom they had, they locked that shit down. Helicopter and Snowplow parents all started with the Gen X parents... And here we are today, this sad, sad version of America. |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 9:28:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you not believe that there were ever helpful, tight knit communities in the USA? I know places where people don't lock their doors to this day. Not everywhere is full of angry shitheads and meth addicts. SE IN in the early 70s, next to smallest county in IN. My Dad was a mailman, knew every person. At 16 I pumped gas, I soon knew about every person. My Dad still leaves the keys in everything on his farm. |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 9:33:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its fiction. Growing up, many of us were unaware of what was going on around us. Alcoholism, spousal abuse, prescription drug abuse, adultery, racism, homosexuality, teen pregnancy, whatever. The show appeals to our child like and romantic view of the past. Like American Graffiti/Happy Days. Its this idealized view. Same, same with most westerns. They show us Little House on the Prairie, not white woman savagely raped by drunk drifters, or incest on the farm. Yeah, Little House on the Prairie never did anything like that! Oh wait.. Sylvia |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 9:39:41 PM EDT
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welp.. cops werent suited up like operators, they drove four doors, not tricked out suvs, carried revolvers (mostly) and if you got fiesty with them they likely whacked you with a sap or blackjack. didnt have computers in their cars, just radios.
but they could be just as mean (or nice) as cops today and you could get a good thrashing if you fucked with them and the report said you fell down the stairs. thing i remember as a teenager is you could get away with a bit more. these days once the processing starts you are gonna get processed. when i was in highschool, cop caught you with a six pack, he made you pour it out (or kept it) and followed you home to make sure you stayed out of trouble. i once had a south carolina state patrol fine me five dollars for doing 85 in a 70. took pity on us coming back from myrtle beach after we graduated from highschool. we paid the fine right there and went on down the road. |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 10:14:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good Times was fake. The Jefferson’s was real though. Moving on up! and George & Weezy got there through hard work, ambition and supporting each other. They made their marriage work and they BOTH raised their son together, imparting Lionel with a sense of self-respect and a moral compass. |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 10:22:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The secret to everyone’s happiness on The Andy Griffith Show is no one was married. All of the main characters were single and they were all happy. The only married character was Otis and he was the town drunk.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 10:26:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember seeing the opening credits thinking it was a fishing show. So yes, it was a lie. Watch the full opening sequence  Family Guy - Andy Griffith |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 10:30:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: welp.. cops werent suited up like operators, they drove four doors, not tricked out suvs, carried revolvers (mostly) and if you got fiesty with them they likely whacked you with a sap or blackjack. didnt have computers in their cars, just radios. but they could be just as mean (or nice) as cops today and you could get a good thrashing if you fucked with them and the report said you fell down the stairs. thing i remember as a teenager is you could get away with a bit more. these days once the processing starts you are gonna get processed. when i was in highschool, cop caught you with a six pack, he made you pour it out (or kept it) and followed you home to make sure you stayed out of trouble. i once had a south carolina state patrol fine me five dollars for doing 85 in a 70. took pity on us coming back from myrtle beach after we graduated from highschool. we paid the fine right there and went on down the road. Dude. You didn't pay a fine, you paid a bribe. |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 10:35:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What modern people call a "lie" is what people used to understand was an "ideal." We used to aspire to be better. It was just a universal cultural norm. There was a general consensus about how to speak to a higher standard, dress to a higher standard, behave to a higher standard. Now, "keeping it real" is the new dominant cultural consensus. It's a race to the bottom. That show would have to have Andy as corrupt, Barney as a bigot, etc. so critics could commend it for its "gritty realism." |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 11:50:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The secret to everyone’s happiness on The Andy Griffith Show is no one was married. All of the main characters were single and they were all happy. The only married character was Otis and he was the town drunk. There were several married couples, the guy (that played the maytag man) and his wife, the couple that were almost evicted, the mayor and his wife. Andy and Helen got married in a later show. There may more I am not remembering. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:49:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1) there is no such such thing as "town sheriff" or "city sheriff" something Hollyweird always gets wrong. It's county sheriff. 2) the is no such thing as a gunless sheriff. The handgun ban brainwashing started in the late 50s/early 60s on TV. FAGShow for that as well as libtard-leftist Andy Griffith. The rest of the show with people being nice did reflect that era. Wrong. 1) New York City has a sheriff along with some other cities. A guy I know worked for the Baltimore city sheriff's office. 2) I'd seen the former sheriff of my county go gunless on numerous occasions. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 12:14:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There were several married couples, the guy (that played the maytag man) and his wife, the couple that were almost evicted, the mayor and his wife. Andy and Helen got married in a later show. There may more I am not remembering. Really? I didn't know that |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 4:53:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There were several married couples, the guy (that played the maytag man) and his wife, the couple that were almost evicted, the mayor and his wife. Andy and Helen got married in a later show. There may more I am not remembering. There was the married couple who bickered all the time. Andy got them to be civil to one another & they both turned their nastiness to everyone else. Can't remember their names. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 5:00:55 PM EDT
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Mayberry was a fictional town, but when they got dressed up and went out for a big time, they went to Mount Pilot, SC, which was a real town - the one I'm from.
 The real-life personas of almost all the main characters was the opposite of their TV roles. Andy Griffith was an SOB with a temper who enjoyed demanding that people be fired on the spot. Aunt Bea was such a bitch that no one from the show even went to her funeral. Don Knotts had an inferiority complex to the point of mental illness. Such is the way of the world. |
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