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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:19:54 PM EDT
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No such thing as Neanderthals. There are people today for instance aboriginal Australians who look exactly like that: http://s27.postimg.org/t82fbi6gz/abo2.jpg Much like the Piltdown man, Neanderthals are a myth created by mixing bones from different sources Poe's Law like a motherfucker. I'd be more likely to invoke Occam's Razor than Poe's law, with these "studies" like the one referenced in the OP that keep getting made up as they go. In 2014, it was Neanderthals never went extinct all the rage Now, it is this one In a year or two, it will be something different and this article will be obselete And its all based on some bones that are indistinguishable from modern skeletons of people suffering from Rickets, and the facial reconstructions are indistinguishable from some ethnic groups alive today. If you look at it logically it starts becoming clear that many facets of evolutionary science are being made up, and then the big question becomes why... Don't get anthropologists mixed up with geneticists. One is mostly philosophic, the other is a science, a new and incomplete science, but a science non the less. Definition of anthropology : the science of human beings; especially : the study of human beings and their ancestors through time and space and in relation to physical character, environmental and social relations, and culture Definition of genetics : the scientific study of how genes control the characteristics of plants and animals |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:20:54 PM EDT
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That's where it gets confusing then. Because if Mi. Eve happened after human-neanderthal breeding, that whole line died off. It would have had to happen again after Mi. Eve's offspring treked north. BWT, I know most of this stuff is bullshit, but all human cultures love a good origin story. The Carthagians had Dido, Rome had Aeneus, England had Alfred the Great. Since secular civilization has killed off God, we need to replace it with something, physical anthropology is a decent substitute if you accept it for what it is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So this happened after the big die off leading to the offspring of Mitochondrial Eve leaving South Africa and heading north? A distinct possibility it seems, but I'm not sure if she is the correct Common Ancestor for this case. Another piece for me to mull over and look at human migration and genetics. That's where it gets confusing then. Because if Mi. Eve happened after human-neanderthal breeding, that whole line died off. It would have had to happen again after Mi. Eve's offspring treked north. BWT, I know most of this stuff is bullshit, but all human cultures love a good origin story. The Carthagians had Dido, Rome had Aeneus, England had Alfred the Great. Since secular civilization has killed off God, we need to replace it with something, physical anthropology is a decent substitute if you accept it for what it is. Brings up an interesting idea, if sapiens had a population crash(which current research is showing that it may not have been as severe but more long-term), did neanderthals as well, if no why not. Multiple excursions to a "new" land is pretty common in human history, so there may be multiple interbreeding events and the last one just coincided with the rise of sapiens as the dominant sub-species. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:21:39 PM EDT
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Don't get anthropologists mixed up with geneticists. One is mostly philosophic, the other is a science, a new and incomplete science, but a science non the less. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No such thing as Neanderthals. There are people today for instance aboriginal Australians who look exactly like that: http://s27.postimg.org/t82fbi6gz/abo2.jpg Much like the Piltdown man, Neanderthals are a myth created by mixing bones from different sources Poe's Law like a motherfucker. I'd be more likely to invoke Occam's Razor than Poe's law, with these "studies" like the one referenced in the OP that keep getting made up as they go. In 2014, it was Neanderthals never went extinct all the rage Now, it is this one In a year or two, it will be something different and this article will be obselete And its all based on some bones that are indistinguishable from modern skeletons of people suffering from Rickets, and the facial reconstructions are indistinguishable from some ethnic groups alive today. If you look at it logically it starts becoming clear that many facets of evolutionary science are being made up, and then the big question becomes why... Don't get anthropologists mixed up with geneticists. One is mostly philosophic, the other is a science, a new and incomplete science, but a science non the less. You're negating that physical anthropology and geneticians are often working together. Besides, an anthropologist doesn't even need their own geneticist on staff anymore, they can just send any specimens they find to a lab to have it analyzed, write them a check from funds they got from a research grant, get the results, and then write and publish a paper, and next thing you know there is a thread on arfcom about it. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:23:38 PM EDT
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Definition of anthropology : the science of human beings; especially : the study of human beings and their ancestors through time and space and in relation to physical character, environmental and social relations, and culture Definition of genetics : the scientific study of how genes control the characteristics of plants and animals Creationism: the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:27:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Notice the subtle racial stereotyping in that pic: the primitive Neanderthals are lilly-white. These grunting savages could only be elevated through the injection of some black blood. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:27:18 PM EDT
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Creationism: the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Definition of anthropology : the science of human beings; especially : the study of human beings and their ancestors through time and space and in relation to physical character, environmental and social relations, and culture Definition of genetics : the scientific study of how genes control the characteristics of plants and animals Creationism: the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution. But I heard in another thread that evolution didn't cover how living beings originate, you need abiogenesis for that. Once again, evolution getting made up as it goes |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:28:59 PM EDT
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thank God for that, or else we probably would have no souless gingers to complain about and pursue after.
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:29:46 PM EDT
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Brings up an interesting idea, if sapiens had a population crash(which current research is showing that it may not have been as severe but more long-term), did neanderthals as well, if no why not. Multiple excursions to a "new" land is pretty common in human history, so there may be multiple interbreeding events and the last one just coincided with the rise of sapiens as the dominant sub-species. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So this happened after the big die off leading to the offspring of Mitochondrial Eve leaving South Africa and heading north? A distinct possibility it seems, but I'm not sure if she is the correct Common Ancestor for this case. Another piece for me to mull over and look at human migration and genetics. That's where it gets confusing then. Because if Mi. Eve happened after human-neanderthal breeding, that whole line died off. It would have had to happen again after Mi. Eve's offspring treked north. BWT, I know most of this stuff is bullshit, but all human cultures love a good origin story. The Carthagians had Dido, Rome had Aeneus, England had Alfred the Great. Since secular civilization has killed off God, we need to replace it with something, physical anthropology is a decent substitute if you accept it for what it is. Brings up an interesting idea, if sapiens had a population crash(which current research is showing that it may not have been as severe but more long-term), did neanderthals as well, if no why not. Multiple excursions to a "new" land is pretty common in human history, so there may be multiple interbreeding events and the last one just coincided with the rise of sapiens as the dominant sub-species. I think the running theory is that Neanderthal did struggle, but because they were hardier, stronger, possibility even smarter (we're talking about a time when early tools was as smart as anyone got), it allowed them to survive better than homo sapiens, which is partly why the Neanderthal was replaced. Because they were hardier, they didn't need to socialize as a priority to survive, which entails building complex family and clan units, thus they ended up becoming a weaker culture than early humans. A Neanderthal family unit was probably smaller and less organized than a homo sapien type. When it comes to humans, our brains are just part of the reason we succeeded, that we are actually designed pretty poorly to survive alone, we're not strong, fast, great eyesight, great hearing, great noses. Thus we are forced to really more on our wits and we must work together to overcome, which makes us much stronger as a culture/society. Add in an easier ability to communicate, innovate, and learn and it means we quickly (over tens of thousands of years, which is an evolutionary blink of the eye) learned how to surpass every other competing animal. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:35:34 PM EDT
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The stupid people are breeding much faster than the smart people, and Darwin's Law is no longer being applied. IMO the human race/civilization will collapse under it's own weight due to the lack of culling of the weak/stupid.
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:36:18 PM EDT
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You're negating that physical anthropology and geneticians are often working together. Besides, an anthropologist doesn't even need their own geneticist on staff anymore, they can just send any specimens they find to a lab to have it analyzed, write them a check from funds they got from a research grant, get the results, and then write and publish a paper, and next thing you know there is a thread on arfcom about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No such thing as Neanderthals. There are people today for instance aboriginal Australians who look exactly like that: http://s27.postimg.org/t82fbi6gz/abo2.jpg Much like the Piltdown man, Neanderthals are a myth created by mixing bones from different sources Poe's Law like a motherfucker. I'd be more likely to invoke Occam's Razor than Poe's law, with these "studies" like the one referenced in the OP that keep getting made up as they go. In 2014, it was Neanderthals never went extinct all the rage Now, it is this one In a year or two, it will be something different and this article will be obselete And its all based on some bones that are indistinguishable from modern skeletons of people suffering from Rickets, and the facial reconstructions are indistinguishable from some ethnic groups alive today. If you look at it logically it starts becoming clear that many facets of evolutionary science are being made up, and then the big question becomes why... Don't get anthropologists mixed up with geneticists. One is mostly philosophic, the other is a science, a new and incomplete science, but a science non the less. You're negating that physical anthropology and geneticians are often working together. Besides, an anthropologist doesn't even need their own geneticist on staff anymore, they can just send any specimens they find to a lab to have it analyzed, write them a check from funds they got from a research grant, get the results, and then write and publish a paper, and next thing you know there is a thread on arfcom about it. I tend to think of forms of study that rely on inference rather then observation as more philosophical the scientific. While the best inferences are made based on scientific, and quantifiable observation, I don't think of inference and observation as always being equally valid. the facts are the facts, but anyone can form an opinion and their invest ego into it. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:36:38 PM EDT
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But I heard in another thread that evolution didn't cover how living beings originate, you need abiogenesis for that. Once again, evolution getting made up as it goes Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Definition of anthropology : the science of human beings; especially : the study of human beings and their ancestors through time and space and in relation to physical character, environmental and social relations, and culture Definition of genetics : the scientific study of how genes control the characteristics of plants and animals Creationism: the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution. But I heard in another thread that evolution didn't cover how living beings originate, you need abiogenesis for that. Once again, evolution getting made up as it goes As opposed to the Bible? We can historically track when all the books were written, when they were written, translated, translated again, translated one more time, then translated again, which previous story from another culture or religion they stole the idea from, etc. In that sense, evolutionary science fits right in with Abrahamic religions. Like I said, a large percentage of modern Americans and Europeans don't believe in your hilariously antiquated and ridiculous version of religion, so in a vacuum situation they will find competing sources of information to fill the void, in this case a creation myth. They trust the people with Dr. before their names before they trust those with Rev. as a honorific title. Why? Because people like you come across as being so insane with your belief system and cultist ideology that everyone else's opinion seem more trustworthy. In essence, you killed God. You are to Christianity what Texas Open Carry Starbucks SKS idiots are to the 2nd Amendment. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:37:01 PM EDT
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But I heard in another thread that evolution didn't cover how living beings originate, you need abiogenesis for that. Once again, evolution getting made up as it goes Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Definition of anthropology : the science of human beings; especially : the study of human beings and their ancestors through time and space and in relation to physical character, environmental and social relations, and culture Definition of genetics : the scientific study of how genes control the characteristics of plants and animals Creationism: the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution. But I heard in another thread that evolution didn't cover how living beings originate, you need abiogenesis for that. Once again, evolution getting made up as it goes 
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:42:46 PM EDT
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The stupid people are breeding much faster than the smart people, and Darwin's Law is no longer being applied. IMO the human race/civilization will collapse under it's own weight due to the lack of culling of the weak/stupid. Yeah, everyone saw that movie. Its not a documentary, and people have been claiming that for hundreds, if not thousands of years. Its the very basis of eugenics. Remember how that ended? Begs the question too, is intelligence a prized attribute if it means highly intelligent couples are forgoing child bearing or necessary levels of offspring to continue the line? In the 20th century, its fairly safe to say that being a healthy, athletic, adult, male of American or European descent was a less enduring series of traits than having poor eyesight and flat feet, especially if they were British, French, Russian, or German. The former were culled off in two great wars, the latter survived and reproduced. Sometimes what seems like the best trait isn't what continues. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:44:55 PM EDT
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I tend to think of forms of study that rely on inference rather then observation as more philosophical the scientific. While the best inferences are made based on scientific, and quantifiable observation, I don't think of inference and observation as always being equally valid. the facts are the facts, but anyone can form an opinion and their invest ego into it. Not everything is a hard STEM field. They call them the soft sciences for a reason. Most things in life can't be proven, but that doesn't mean those fields shouldn't be discussed, let alone studied intently. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:45:16 PM EDT
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Definition of anthropology : the science of human beings; especially : the study of human beings and their ancestors through time and space and in relation to physical character, environmental and social relations, and culture Definition of genetics : the scientific study of how genes control the characteristics of plants and animals Creationism: the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution. But I heard in another thread that evolution didn't cover how living beings originate, you need abiogenesis for that. Once again, evolution getting made up as it goes http://i.imgur.com/VtDNEw8.gif 
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:45:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It seems to me they still are in many examples. Cheers! -JC  Jus' Sayin'. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:54:34 PM EDT
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Well, in this case, the image is used along with an article describing mixing that happened in the Siberia-Mongolia border regions, about 100,000 years ago, not mixing that happened in Sweden or Germany. Are neanderthals from that region more likely to be white or brown? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Notice the subtle racial stereotyping in that pic: the primitive Neanderthals are lilly-white. These grunting savages could only be elevated through the injection of some black blood. They altered the skin color for the models because the latitude Neanderthal lived indicates it likely adopted to lower UV rays, meaning it had light pigment skin, meaning white. Neanderthal also had a significantly larger brain capacity than humans did, by size and by body weight ration, meaning they were not only stronger than humans, but capable of being smarter too. 
Jesus dude take a fucking class or do some real reading on the subject. Do you know where the people of Europe came from? It wasn't Europe. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:56:00 PM EDT
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Don't get anthropologists mixed up with geneticists. One is mostly philosophic, the other is a science, a new and incomplete science, but a science non the less. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No such thing as Neanderthals. There are people today for instance aboriginal Australians who look exactly like that: http://s27.postimg.org/t82fbi6gz/abo2.jpg Much like the Piltdown man, Neanderthals are a myth created by mixing bones from different sources Poe's Law like a motherfucker. I'd be more likely to invoke Occam's Razor than Poe's law, with these "studies" like the one referenced in the OP that keep getting made up as they go. In 2014, it was Neanderthals never went extinct all the rage Now, it is this one In a year or two, it will be something different and this article will be obselete And its all based on some bones that are indistinguishable from modern skeletons of people suffering from Rickets, and the facial reconstructions are indistinguishable from some ethnic groups alive today. If you look at it logically it starts becoming clear that many facets of evolutionary science are being made up, and then the big question becomes why... Don't get anthropologists mixed up with geneticists. One is mostly philosophic, the other is a science, a new and incomplete science, but a science non the less. Physical anthropologists ARE effectively geneticists in certain lines of specialty. I know some. Personally. I learned population genetics from one. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:57:42 PM EDT
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Do you think the human guys grunted, "Guilty? Not Guilty?" They were probably about as discerning as your average GDer. In other words, if they'd had internet, it would have been all hot models or pointy elbows. In reality, not so much. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:59:11 PM EDT
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Once humans permanently settled above the Tropic of Cancer latitude line, their skin lightens. The higher they go, the lighter they get. With less UV rays for the skin to properly absurd the sun's rays to produce Vitamin D. the most efficient skin color is lighter, not darker. In brighter areas, closer to the sun, lighter skin means a higher chance of constant sunburn from exposure to the sun, and skin cancer, which limits success of the animal with those genes and their ability to survive to adulthood and reproduce. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Notice the subtle racial stereotyping in that pic: the primitive Neanderthals are lilly-white. These grunting savages could only be elevated through the injection of some black blood. They altered the skin color for the models because the latitude Neanderthal lived indicates it likely adopted to lower UV rays, meaning it had light pigment skin, meaning white. Neanderthal also had a significantly larger brain capacity than humans did, by size and by body weight ration, meaning they were not only stronger than humans, but capable of being smarter too. Once humans permanently settled above the Tropic of Cancer latitude line, their skin lightens. The higher they go, the lighter they get. With less UV rays for the skin to properly absurd the sun's rays to produce Vitamin D. the most efficient skin color is lighter, not darker. In brighter areas, closer to the sun, lighter skin means a higher chance of constant sunburn from exposure to the sun, and skin cancer, which limits success of the animal with those genes and their ability to survive to adulthood and reproduce. Recent research suggests 'whiteness' is much more recent than previously thought. Like, perhaps under 10k years old. http://www.livescience.com/42838-european-hunter-gatherer-genome-sequenced.html |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 3:03:12 PM EDT
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. Like I said, a large percentage of modern Americans and Europeans don't believe in your hilariously antiquated and ridiculous version of religion, so in a vacuum situation they will find competing sources of information to fill the void, in this case a creation myth. They trust the people with Dr. before their names before they trust those with Rev. as a honorific title. Why? Because people like you come across as being so insane with your belief system and cultist ideology that everyone else's opinion seem more trustworthy. In essence, you killed God. You are to Christianity what Texas Open Carry Starbucks SKS idiots are to the 2nd Amendment. This is exactly what is happening, but your reasoning as to why this is happening is badly flawed. The Bible has not changed, neither the Bible nor its literal interpretation has changed or become "insane". The World has changed and science and learning have increased so rapidly that a man at the turn of the 20th century would have more in common with Noah than he would with a modern man living just 116 years later. But this is exactly what is supposed to happen, in the last days, learning will be increased (Daniel 12:4), people will have itching ears ( or as you put it in a vacuum situation they will find competing sources of information), and will heap unto themselves teachers (some people with Dr before their names), but will end up hearing doctrines of demons (2 Timothy 4:3). The Bible also says in 2 Peter that in the last days people will become willfully ignorant of Creation and of the flood. What better way to stay willfully ignorant than to convince yourself that the person who believes those things is "insane". Maybe we even need the government to intervene with those "insane" people! Things that have been common knowledge for 2000 years are suddenly "insanity", and that says more about the state of the world, specifically that we are in the last days exactly as Jesus, Paul, Timothy, John, and the old testament prophets would predict thousands of years ago. Society is under a great DELUSION (2 Thessalonians 2:11), and just like a psychopath dropping hints at his true nature to increase stakes of the game, Richard Dawkins hinted at this in his wording in the book "The God Delusion", people have deluded themselves into thinking that God is not even real and judgment does not even await. These people are masters at using the exact opposite of words to hint at their true meaning, take the word "right" for instance. It used to limit government power, now it means something that the government provides for free. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 3:19:25 PM EDT
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No such thing as Neanderthals. There are people today for instance aboriginal Australians who look exactly like that: http://s27.postimg.org/t82fbi6gz/abo2.jpg Much like the Piltdown man, Neanderthals are a myth created by mixing bones from different sources God, you're adorable. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 3:24:07 PM EDT
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This is exactly what is happening, but your reasoning as to why this is happening is badly flawed. The Bible has not changed, neither the Bible nor its literal interpretation has changed or become "insane". The World has changed and science and learning have increased so rapidly that a man at the turn of the 20th century would have more in common with Noah than he would with a modern man living just 116 years later. But this is exactly what is supposed to happen, in the last days, learning will be increased (Daniel 12:4), people will have itching ears ( or as you put it in a vacuum situation they will find competing sources of information), and will heap unto themselves teachers (some people with Dr before their names), but will end up hearing doctrines of demons (2 Timothy 4:3). The Bible also says in 2 Peter that in the last days people will become willfully ignorant of Creation and of the flood. What better way to stay willfully ignorant than to convince yourself that the person who believes those things is "insane". Maybe we even need the government to intervene with those "insane" people! Things that have been common knowledge for 2000 years are suddenly "insanity", and that says more about the state of the world, specifically that we are in the last days exactly as Jesus, Paul, Timothy, John, and the old testament prophets would predict thousands of years ago. Society is under a great DELUSION (2 Thessalonians 2:11), and just like a psychopath dropping hints at his true nature to increase stakes of the game, Richard Dawkins hinted at this in his wording in the book "The God Delusion", people have deluded themselves into thinking that God is not even real and judgment does not even await. These people are masters at using the exact opposite of words to hint at their true meaning, take the word "right" for instance. It used to limit government power, now it means something that the government provides for free. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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. Like I said, a large percentage of modern Americans and Europeans don't believe in your hilariously antiquated and ridiculous version of religion, so in a vacuum situation they will find competing sources of information to fill the void, in this case a creation myth. They trust the people with Dr. before their names before they trust those with Rev. as a honorific title. Why? Because people like you come across as being so insane with your belief system and cultist ideology that everyone else's opinion seem more trustworthy. In essence, you killed God. You are to Christianity what Texas Open Carry Starbucks SKS idiots are to the 2nd Amendment. This is exactly what is happening, but your reasoning as to why this is happening is badly flawed. The Bible has not changed, neither the Bible nor its literal interpretation has changed or become "insane". The World has changed and science and learning have increased so rapidly that a man at the turn of the 20th century would have more in common with Noah than he would with a modern man living just 116 years later. But this is exactly what is supposed to happen, in the last days, learning will be increased (Daniel 12:4), people will have itching ears ( or as you put it in a vacuum situation they will find competing sources of information), and will heap unto themselves teachers (some people with Dr before their names), but will end up hearing doctrines of demons (2 Timothy 4:3). The Bible also says in 2 Peter that in the last days people will become willfully ignorant of Creation and of the flood. What better way to stay willfully ignorant than to convince yourself that the person who believes those things is "insane". Maybe we even need the government to intervene with those "insane" people! Things that have been common knowledge for 2000 years are suddenly "insanity", and that says more about the state of the world, specifically that we are in the last days exactly as Jesus, Paul, Timothy, John, and the old testament prophets would predict thousands of years ago. Society is under a great DELUSION (2 Thessalonians 2:11), and just like a psychopath dropping hints at his true nature to increase stakes of the game, Richard Dawkins hinted at this in his wording in the book "The God Delusion", people have deluded themselves into thinking that God is not even real and judgment does not even await. These people are masters at using the exact opposite of words to hint at their true meaning, take the word "right" for instance. It used to limit government power, now it means something that the government provides for free. Keep it up. You're so over the top, you are the Bernie Sanders of religion, the Kanye West. Every time you post about religion a arfcom Christian doubts the religion because believing means they might agree with something insane you wrote. Horvind is a criminal fraud and your cult is full of shit. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 3:35:31 PM EDT
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I'd be more likely to invoke Occam's Razor than Poe's law, with these "studies" like the one referenced in the OP that keep getting made up as they go. In 2014, it was Neanderthals never went extinct all the rage Now, it is this one In a year or two, it will be something different and this article will be obselete And its all based on some bones that are indistinguishable from modern skeletons of people suffering from Rickets, and the facial reconstructions are indistinguishable from some ethnic groups alive today. If you look at it logically it starts becoming clear that many facets of evolutionary science are being made up, and then the big question becomes why... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No such thing as Neanderthals. There are people today for instance aboriginal Australians who look exactly like that: http://s27.postimg.org/t82fbi6gz/abo2.jpg Much like the Piltdown man, Neanderthals are a myth created by mixing bones from different sources Poe's Law like a motherfucker. I'd be more likely to invoke Occam's Razor than Poe's law, with these "studies" like the one referenced in the OP that keep getting made up as they go. In 2014, it was Neanderthals never went extinct all the rage Now, it is this one In a year or two, it will be something different and this article will be obselete And its all based on some bones that are indistinguishable from modern skeletons of people suffering from Rickets, and the facial reconstructions are indistinguishable from some ethnic groups alive today. If you look at it logically it starts becoming clear that many facets of evolutionary science are being made up, and then the big question becomes why... Lol...how did I know you were going to play the Rickets card? |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 3:38:48 PM EDT
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No such thing as Neanderthals. There are people today for instance aboriginal Australians who look exactly like that: http://s27.postimg.org/t82fbi6gz/abo2.jpg Much like the Piltdown man, Neanderthals are a myth created by mixing bones from different sources Poe's Law like a motherfucker. I'd be more likely to invoke Occam's Razor than Poe's law, with these "studies" like the one referenced in the OP that keep getting made up as they go. In 2014, it was Neanderthals never went extinct all the rage Now, it is this one In a year or two, it will be something different and this article will be obselete And its all based on some bones that are indistinguishable from modern skeletons of people suffering from Rickets, and the facial reconstructions are indistinguishable from some ethnic groups alive today. If you look at it logically it starts becoming clear that many facets of evolutionary science are being made up, and then the big question becomes why... Lol...how did I know you were going to play the Rickets card? Because he's using the talking points from a website that addresses how to argue against evolution. Rickets is one of the talking points. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 3:40:23 PM EDT
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So all of this research to discover what everyone here alrady knew. People will screw literally anything they can get away with.
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Posted: 2/18/2016 3:40:40 PM EDT
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No such thing as Neanderthals. There are people today for instance aboriginal Australians who look exactly like that: http://s27.postimg.org/t82fbi6gz/abo2.jpg Much like the Piltdown man, Neanderthals are a myth created by mixing bones from different sources Poe's Law like a motherfucker. I'd be more likely to invoke Occam's Razor than Poe's law... I wouldn't. Reading your posts, it's impossible to tell whether you're serious or you're trolling. I don't know whether you actually believe the far out shit you write, or if you're just having us on for a laugh. That's an example of Poe's Law. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 5:26:29 PM EDT
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Here you go, mdk89.
"The signs of rickets differ from Neanderthal fossils in several respects, including the following: People with rickets are undernourished and calcium-poor; their bones are weak. Neanderthal bones are fifty percent thicker than the average human's. Evidence of rickets is easily detectable, especially on the ends of the long bones of the body. This evidence is not found in Neanderthals. Rickets causes a sideways curvature of the femur. Neanderthal femurs bend backward." Virchow, who first reported the possibility of rickets in a Neanderthal, did not cite it alone. He said the fossil had rickets in early childhood, head injuries in middle age, and arthritis in old age. It is doubtful that an entire population suffered these same afflictions. Lubenow attributes rickets to a post-Flood ice age, with heavy cloud cover, shelter, and clothing, and a lack of vitamin D. But the greatest differences from modern humans, seen in Homo erectus, are found mostly in tropical areas. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 7:37:53 PM EDT
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mdk is full of crap again. The neanderthal did exist, but they were known better as the Nephilim in the bible. They were a wicked race spawned by angels who conquered righteous people on their dinosaur steeds. That's why Noah didn't bring t-rexes in the Ark, they were all taken and kept in Nephilim stables and barns. I hear some swam to Africa though. Those tiny arms are more powerful than you'd think.
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Posted: 2/18/2016 7:40:25 PM EDT
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The people in the OP look like they might be from Carlsbad, NM. Currently.
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Posted: 2/18/2016 7:50:02 PM EDT
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add inbreeding with Democrats and we may have dino's again.
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Posted: 2/18/2016 8:08:11 PM EDT
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well, it seems that sticking a dick into anything you can, is a trait that dates back a few years. Winner! |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 8:17:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Once humans permanently settled above the Tropic of Cancer latitude line, their skin lightens. The higher they go, the lighter they get. With less UV rays for the skin to properly absurd the sun's rays to produce Vitamin D. the most efficient skin color is lighter, not darker. In brighter areas, closer to the sun, lighter skin means a higher chance of constant sunburn from exposure to the sun, and skin cancer, which limits success of the animal with those genes and their ability to survive to adulthood and reproduce. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Notice the subtle racial stereotyping in that pic: the primitive Neanderthals are lilly-white. These grunting savages could only be elevated through the injection of some black blood. They altered the skin color for the models because the latitude Neanderthal lived indicates it likely adopted to lower UV rays, meaning it had light pigment skin, meaning white. Neanderthal also had a significantly larger brain capacity than humans did, by size and by body weight ration, meaning they were not only stronger than humans, but capable of being smarter too. Once humans permanently settled above the Tropic of Cancer latitude line, their skin lightens. The higher they go, the lighter they get. With less UV rays for the skin to properly absurd the sun's rays to produce Vitamin D. the most efficient skin color is lighter, not darker. In brighter areas, closer to the sun, lighter skin means a higher chance of constant sunburn from exposure to the sun, and skin cancer, which limits success of the animal with those genes and their ability to survive to adulthood and reproduce. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 8:23:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jesus dude take a fucking class or do some real reading on the subject. Do you know where the people of Europe came from? It wasn't Europe. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Notice the subtle racial stereotyping in that pic: the primitive Neanderthals are lilly-white. These grunting savages could only be elevated through the injection of some black blood. They altered the skin color for the models because the latitude Neanderthal lived indicates it likely adopted to lower UV rays, meaning it had light pigment skin, meaning white. Neanderthal also had a significantly larger brain capacity than humans did, by size and by body weight ration, meaning they were not only stronger than humans, but capable of being smarter too. Jesus dude take a fucking class or do some real reading on the subject. Do you know where the people of Europe came from? It wasn't Europe. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 8:26:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Recent research suggests 'whiteness' is much more recent than previously thought. Like, perhaps under 10k years old. http://www.livescience.com/42838-european-hunter-gatherer-genome-sequenced.html Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Notice the subtle racial stereotyping in that pic: the primitive Neanderthals are lilly-white. These grunting savages could only be elevated through the injection of some black blood. They altered the skin color for the models because the latitude Neanderthal lived indicates it likely adopted to lower UV rays, meaning it had light pigment skin, meaning white. Neanderthal also had a significantly larger brain capacity than humans did, by size and by body weight ration, meaning they were not only stronger than humans, but capable of being smarter too. Once humans permanently settled above the Tropic of Cancer latitude line, their skin lightens. The higher they go, the lighter they get. With less UV rays for the skin to properly absurd the sun's rays to produce Vitamin D. the most efficient skin color is lighter, not darker. In brighter areas, closer to the sun, lighter skin means a higher chance of constant sunburn from exposure to the sun, and skin cancer, which limits success of the animal with those genes and their ability to survive to adulthood and reproduce. Recent research suggests 'whiteness' is much more recent than previously thought. Like, perhaps under 10k years old. http://www.livescience.com/42838-european-hunter-gatherer-genome-sequenced.html |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 8:34:13 PM EDT
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I honestly feel like I should put a dollar in a hat for him, every time I see mdk make a post.
It just seems wrong to get this kind of entertainment for free. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 8:52:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: That guy looks like Mel Brooks. http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/02/18/humans-neanderthals-interbred-thousands-years-earlier-than-first-thought-research-shows.html http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/science/2016/02/18/humans-neanderthals-interbred-thousands-years-earlier-than-first-thought-research-shows/_jcr_content/par/featured-media/media-0.img.jpg/876/493/1455776687023.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 A new study has shown that humans interbred with Neanderthals approximately 100,000 years ago, between 40,000 and 50,000 years earlier than first thought. The new study, published in the journal Nature, reports that genetic analysis of the remains of a Neanderthal woman detected residual DNA from Homo sapiens, a sign of inter-species mating. The discovery by the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology forces scientists to reasses the accepted timeline of when humans migrated out of Africa to other parts of the world. One theory is that the recently discovered interbreeding arose from what scientists call a failed dispersal. That refers to a small population of Homo sapiens trekking to the Middle East and other parts of Eurasia, but failing to establish lasting colonies. The remains of the Neanderthal woman at the center of the study were found in southern Siberia, near the border with present-day Mongolia. Or maybe the Neanderthals just raped the shit out of them at the #6 Dance. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 8:54:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one knows when neanderthals became neanderthals, no one knows when modern humans became modern humans. Most of what has been taught is bullshit pipe dreams made up by people who cant stand to admit that they do not know what they do not know. What we know is what has been observed.. the rest is just inference. And anyone can infer with the best of them. You mean like how they find 2 teeth and a leg bone and build a complete and complex history of the animal/humanoid with behavioral patterns and everything? Or as my Professor in college said "pulling it out of their asses". |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 9:01:15 PM EDT
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Man. Banging anything with a hole since the begining of time.
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Posted: 2/18/2016 9:10:52 PM EDT
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So, what you're saying is that the Neanderthals 100,000 years ago, the subject of this article, were not white and that therefore the Neanderthals, who died out 40,000 years ago, were never white? And I am the one who needs to read up on the subject? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Recent research suggests 'whiteness' is much more recent than previously thought. Like, perhaps under 10k years old. http://www.livescience.com/42838-european-hunter-gatherer-genome-sequenced.html Wow, you are functionally illiterate. Nice work. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 9:21:47 PM EDT
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evolution. its a theory.
Prove your theory in one post or you have zero cred, like your theory you worship so doggedly. Zero. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 9:23:08 PM EDT
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it looks like mel brooks and donald trump talking about merchandise.
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Posted: 2/18/2016 9:36:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Tell me something I don't know. And then explain the eskimos and the Sami. Judging by your constant focus on skin color I'm guessing you are referring to the darker shade of skin of both those peoples. There is this thing called the sun. When you spend your life outdoors your skin darkens. Some call this miracle of science "weathered." Google "Eskimo baby" and "Sami baby" and go to images. Notice what skin color they are before becoming weathered by the sun? Of course not, because you're not doing any of this because you don't give a shit because you're focusing solely on light skinned Neanderthals and getting angry because you think liberals are insulting your race. Not everything is shot you. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 9:41:30 PM EDT
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The stupid people are breeding much faster than the smart people, and Darwin's Law is no longer being applied. IMO the human race/civilization will collapse under it's own weight due to the lack of culling of the weak/stupid. IMHO, that can change quickly enough to create a new balance without causing a complete collapse. But I hear where you're coming from. I see a parade of those people you talk about coming through my office every day. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 9:42:24 PM EDT
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I am not surprised. I see that dude at the gun show all the time.
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Posted: 2/18/2016 9:43:05 PM EDT
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evolution. its a theory. Prove your theory in one post or you have zero cred, like your theory you worship so doggedly. Zero. I can prove you're scientifically illiterate with one quote. How about that? |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 10:49:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, you are functionally illiterate. Nice work. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Recent research suggests 'whiteness' is much more recent than previously thought. Like, perhaps under 10k years old. http://www.livescience.com/42838-european-hunter-gatherer-genome-sequenced.html Wow, you are functionally illiterate. Nice work. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 10:52:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Judging by your constant focus on skin color I'm guessing you are referring to the darker shade of skin of both those peoples. There is this thing called the sun. When you spend your life outdoors your skin darkens. Some call this miracle of science "weathered." Google "Eskimo baby" and "Sami baby" and go to images. Notice what skin color they are before becoming weathered by the sun? Of course not, because you're not doing any of this because you don't give a shit because you're focusing solely on light skinned Neanderthals and getting angry because you think liberals are insulting your race. Not everything is shot you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:Tell me something I don't know. And then explain the eskimos and the Sami. Judging by your constant focus on skin color I'm guessing you are referring to the darker shade of skin of both those peoples. There is this thing called the sun. When you spend your life outdoors your skin darkens. Some call this miracle of science "weathered." Google "Eskimo baby" and "Sami baby" and go to images. Notice what skin color they are before becoming weathered by the sun? Of course not, because you're not doing any of this because you don't give a shit because you're focusing solely on light skinned Neanderthals and getting angry because you think liberals are insulting your race. Not everything is shot you. I know everything is not shot me. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 11:02:37 PM EDT
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You mean that sun that barely rises for much of the year in those northern latitudes, and the sun that does not seem to weather all those white Norwegians and all those white Alaskans and all those white Russians? That sun? LOL. I know everything is not shot me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/18/2016 11:05:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: evolution. its a theory. Prove your theory in one post or you have zero cred, like your theory you worship so doggedly. Zero. |
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