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Link Posted: 8/9/2016 9:05:54 PM EDT
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Awesome thread. For some reason I've always been fascinated with shipwrecks ever since I was a little kid.
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Me too.  I love diving wrecks.



 
Link Posted: 8/9/2016 9:07:41 PM EDT
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Hudson River water landing?  That's awfully shallow.
Link Posted: 8/9/2016 9:14:59 PM EDT
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Doubtful. That looks like a 727: three-engined, T-tailed jet, or one similar to it.
Link Posted: 8/9/2016 9:18:31 PM EDT
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Civil War Ironclad USS Monitor, then...




...and now...

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Doubtful. That looks like a 727: three-engined, T-tailed jet, or one similar to it.
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Doubtful. That looks like a 727: three-engined, T-tailed jet, or one similar to it.


L10-11
Link Posted: 8/9/2016 9:29:47 PM EDT
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USS Utah, before the Pearl Harbor attack...




...and now...

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Link Posted: 8/9/2016 9:35:33 PM EDT
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The before photo is earlier than her final configuration when she sank.  They had 5"/25 mounts forward on turrets 1 and 2 and 5"/38 enclosed mounts aft on turrets 4 and 5.  They also had I think one 1.1" mount, some 20mm mounts and 8 .50 caliber machine guns.
Link Posted: 8/9/2016 9:36:12 PM EDT
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I just started the Dirk Pitt series by Clive Cussler so this appeals to me.
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HMHS Britannic, before...



...and after...

Link Posted: 8/9/2016 9:37:04 PM EDT
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Hudson River water landing?  That's awfully shallow.



Doubtful. That looks like a 727: three-engined, T-tailed jet, or one similar to it.


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Judging by the lat and longitude, that's a Tupolev 154.  Former private plane of the communist ruler of Bulgaria.  Now an artificial reef in the Black Sea.
Link Posted: 8/9/2016 9:43:34 PM EDT
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Judging by the lat and longitude, that's a Tupolev 154.  Former private plane of the communist ruler of Bulgaria.  Now an artificial reef in the Black Sea.
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Hudson River water landing?  That's awfully shallow.



Doubtful. That looks like a 727: three-engined, T-tailed jet, or one similar to it.


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Judging by the lat and longitude, that's a Tupolev 154.  Former private plane of the communist ruler of Bulgaria.  Now an artificial reef in the Black Sea.


WINNER, WINNER, CHICKEN DINNER!


Link Posted: 8/9/2016 10:03:44 PM EDT
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...a Confederate blockade runner:



...presumed to be the Agnes E. Frye:

Link Posted: 8/9/2016 10:16:06 PM EDT
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Down and side imaging technology is awesome. It has really advanced in the past 10 years. Some of the new fishing graphs can produce amazing images, when properly set up. Most can be had for around 1k.



https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8849/28802854821_8e0eaf233b_b.jpg
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You can probably get by for much less. I have a Humminbird 899 I paid $800 for a year ago. It's discontinued so I'd imagine they can be found for less now. Pretty awesome side and down scan images comparable to those posted here. Not at ocean floor depths though.







I get distracted when looking for fish and find myself spending time checking out old bridges, cars, silos etc... On the bottom of the lake.










Lots of images from "consumers" posted here




























 

 
Link Posted: 8/9/2016 10:17:01 PM EDT
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I remember seeing images of something that looked like the Millenium Falcon years ago that had everyone freaked out.  Pretty sure it was in the Baltic.
Link Posted: 8/9/2016 10:28:19 PM EDT
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Did you find my guns?
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Link Posted: 8/9/2016 10:38:40 PM EDT
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Here's some of my images that I've shot at work:
http://www.bosargediving.com/our-services/sonar-services/
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 3:14:28 AM EDT
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Here's some of my images that I've shot at work:
http://www.bosargediving.com/our-services/sonar-services/
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Cool!!!
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 3:20:54 AM EDT
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DO24?
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Last one looks like buzz lightyear.
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Lol. I thought the same.
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 4:32:04 AM EDT
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Very cool.  When I was a kid, I used to imagine how neat it would be if they could drain the ocean and you could just walk around and explore what was down there.  This is almost as good.

Good post.  
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 4:38:06 AM EDT
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I got to look at tons of sidescan when I was diving. It was....









Super boring because most of it looked like this.









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I got to look at tons of sidescan when I was diving. It was....

Super boring because most of it looked like this.

http://www.offshore-technology.com/contractor_images/11190/images/146831/large/rock-2.jpg

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That's what makes these images so interesting.  Imagine, after seeing miles and miles of...



...you suddenly see this...

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Here's some of my images that I've shot at work:

http://www.bosargediving.com/our-services/sonar-services/
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Awesome! I'll be getting my Engineer Diver ticket in the spring.

 
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 10:38:29 AM EDT
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pretty damn cool

Link Posted: 8/10/2016 10:43:59 AM EDT
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Awesome thread
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 10:44:54 AM EDT
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"Is that a U Boat"?

[chico]"Thats a notta my boat" [/chico]

Link Posted: 8/10/2016 10:47:13 AM EDT
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Doubtful. That looks like a 727: three-engined, T-tailed jet, or one similar to it.
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Hudson River water landing?  That's awfully shallow.



Doubtful. That looks like a 727: three-engined, T-tailed jet, or one similar to it.


Coordinates on the photo put it in the Black Sea off the coast of Bulgaria.

ETA: Already noted above.
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 11:01:15 AM EDT
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Awesome pics and thread.

Surprised we still can't find the nuke we lost off of Georgia.
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 11:02:53 AM EDT
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Looks like the top view of a Do 24 to me...... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_24
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 11:03:44 AM EDT
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Awesome pics and thread.



Surprised we still can't find the nuke we lost off of Georgia.
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I'm on it.
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 11:07:12 AM EDT
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Any more info on the bodies? That's surprisingly creepy especially the way the shadows are cast
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 11:09:59 AM EDT
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I need to borrow that to find my lost guns.

Damn boating accident.






Link Posted: 8/10/2016 11:12:16 AM EDT
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Awesome pics and thread.



Surprised we still can't find the nuke we lost off of Georgia.
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They are buried deep down under silt



 
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 11:16:50 AM EDT
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"Is that a U Boat"?

[chico]"Thats a notta my boat" [/chico]

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Not likely. U-boat would have a single surface mounted gun.


Unless it somehow came off while sinking.
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 11:25:05 AM EDT
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This is so cool
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Why the shadow?

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artifact of side scanning - the object blocks the scanner, hence the shadow
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 11:41:36 AM EDT
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Without having to say it, a good number of people here will be able to identify THIS one...

http://waittfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/MSN018A_BOW-SIDE4-R99m.jpg
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Ah yes. The SS Minnow. Finally!
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 11:43:14 AM EDT
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It's not 3d but it appears that way.  Think of the sounds waves as a laser, it will bounce off the object back towards the transmitter.  The sound will never reach where the "shadow" is so it registers as no response or "nothing there".
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Why/how does it show shadows?




It's not really a shadow, more of a blank area that is shown because the sonar waves can't penetrate the object.


So is it a 3D recreation of the image?  If the sonar source was casting the shadows, why don't the photos, or whatever they are, show the perspective that is casting the shadow?  



I'm not sure I'm writing this correctly, but it appears that the picture is from a different perspective than the sonar is pointed.




It's not 3d but it appears that way.  Think of the sounds waves as a laser, it will bounce off the object back towards the transmitter.  The sound will never reach where the "shadow" is so it registers as no response or "nothing there".




 
His point is it appears the image collector (or whatever it is called) is in a different location from the sonar source. (e.g. towed sonar, but image collector on bottom ship).   If both were in the same position, it too shouldn't see the "shadow".
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 11:45:50 AM EDT
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Great thread, thanks OP
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Me too.  I love diving wrecks.
 
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Awesome thread. For some reason I've always been fascinated with shipwrecks ever since I was a little kid.
Me too.  I love diving wrecks.
 

Same here
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 3:31:14 PM EDT
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Here are some photos in no particular order of sunken objects located by side scanner sonar (those towed buoys you see in those oceanographer documentaries). I only post them to show what the technology is capable of, as well as show how spooky it can be- imagine you're looking at miles and miles of nothing on the screen, and then suddenly you see a wrecked ship nobody has seen for a hundred years.   I will leave it to others to identify the subject matter...

Enjoy!

http://i.imgur.com/tQwayCV.jpg
http://www.maritimequest.com/side_wheel/portland/08_sidescan.jpg
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13384&d=1285895680
http://www.jwfishers.com/graphics/bikea.gif
http://www.pingdsp.com/images/mackenzie-sidescan-all.png
http://blueprintsubsea.com/starfish/images/sonar/452/sf452_steamship.jpg
https://www.km.kongsberg.com/ks/web/nokbg0239.nsf/obj/Holmengraa-700x321.jpg/$File/Holmengraa-700x321.jpg?OpenElement
http://gauntletdiving.com/empress_sss_01.jpg
http://www.2kozak.com/_wp_generated/wp326570c1_05_06.jpg
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Link Posted: 8/10/2016 3:31:46 PM EDT
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Doubtful. That looks like a 727: three-engined, T-tailed jet, or one similar to it.
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Doubtful. That looks like a 727: three-engined, T-tailed jet, or one similar to it.
That's in the Black Sea just off the coast of Saints Constantine and Helena, Bulgaria.

 
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 3:40:52 PM EDT
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  His point is it appears the image collector (or whatever it is called) is in a different location from the sonar source. (e.g. towed sonar, but image collector on bottom ship).   If both were in the same position, it too shouldn't see the "shadow".

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Why/how does it show shadows?




It's not really a shadow, more of a blank area that is shown because the sonar waves can't penetrate the object.


So is it a 3D recreation of the image?  If the sonar source was casting the shadows, why don't the photos, or whatever they are, show the perspective that is casting the shadow?  



I'm not sure I'm writing this correctly, but it appears that the picture is from a different perspective than the sonar is pointed.




It's not 3d but it appears that way.  Think of the sounds waves as a laser, it will bounce off the object back towards the transmitter.  The sound will never reach where the "shadow" is so it registers as no response or "nothing there".


  His point is it appears the image collector (or whatever it is called) is in a different location from the sonar source. (e.g. towed sonar, but image collector on bottom ship).   If both were in the same position, it too shouldn't see the "shadow".

Sonar works on distance to target.

 


Side scan sonar works on distance to target with a highly directional component to the bounce back.




So... a line near the water surface is the path of the unit attached to the boat.




From that line, it's angle from horizontal and distance along each position on the line.




When you get bounce back at 10 degrees down you might have 120 foot bounce back.  At 10.001 degrees down you might have 123 foot bounce back.




This is noted in the data.




Then, when the image is created, those angles and distances are calculated out, and you get a "view from the top" picture of the bounce back intensity.




It's this angle translation math that generates the shadow.




The sending and receiving unit are pretty close together.  It's that the resolution of the sonar is used to calculate an image from a different point of view.
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 3:42:06 PM EDT
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Cool!
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 3:46:00 PM EDT
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Cool pictures. I've always thought it would be cool to be able to temporarily drain a body of water so you could walk the bottom and check everything out.
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Cool pictures. I've always thought it would be cool to be able to temporarily drain a body of water so you could walk the bottom and check everything out.
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The Japs try that every once in a while

 
Link Posted: 8/11/2016 8:03:12 PM EDT
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I've spent the past few nights looking at different images now

I had a unit mounted on my Jon boat that I would fish and hunt out of all up and down pool 14,15 and 16 on the Mississippi and have found some cool things on the bottom of the river.
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