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Link Posted: 2/6/2018 10:10:44 AM EDT
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Trump should have never started bragging about this big fat ugly bubble.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 10:21:01 AM EDT
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This.

Ain't like Soros ain't done it to other folks before either.
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fed doesn't control the market, they may have the biggest oar in the water, but that ain't control. It's to big for them, which is saying something considering the FRB is the most powerful group in human history.
No, but how many fortune 500 CEOs are committed leftists?

Since they have no issue with PC being job#1 ahead of profits, them pulling a coordinated devaluation to make the current POTUS look bad isn't too far of a stretch.
This.

Ain't like Soros ain't done it to other folks before either.


You know that feeling you get when you go to DU, and see the dumbest post of the day?  Someone is reading your posts right now and thinking the same thing.

I've worked with Fortune 500 CEOs, they aren't all that liberal.  Regardless, the thought of a CEO of a major corporation tanking his own company's stock (and losing millions of his own money in the process) is preposterous.  The level of stupidity nowadays is overwhelming.  If it's not coming from dolts on the left, we got Alex Jones types here making the right look stupid.  JFC
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 10:30:03 AM EDT
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So let me get this straight.

We've been having a record breaking market and when there's a little correction, all of a sudden its due to conspiracies and people wanting to bring down Trump? Bad market day after a bunch of records and people instantly panic and come up with this shit.
Drudge headline says as much.

The Federal Reserve May Secretly Want to Sink the Record-Breaking Stock Market

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/64239/Screen_Shot_2018-02-06_at_3-443081.JPG
Drudge also links to Infowars often. This place is turning into Arfchan/Infowars.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 10:36:07 AM EDT
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So let me get this straight.

We've been having a record breaking market and when there's a little correction, all of a sudden its due to conspiracies and people wanting to bring down Trump? Bad market day after a bunch of records and people instantly panic and come up with this shit.
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Hey!!  We can't have rational thought here on GD.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 10:40:28 AM EDT
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all I know is to not trust a damn word any ARFCOM’er says about the market.  Especially after the majority of you thought bitcoin was the greatest investment in the world.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 10:49:34 AM EDT
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Wow, one correction and every one is "oh the noes!!!!"

Normal cycle here folks. It will dip a bit, go up more than before, dip a bit, etc. Sides, I am 20+ years out from retirement, so a dip means more shares to buy for a better Average cost in the long run.

Relax people!
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 11:00:38 AM EDT
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With Democrats as Friends, there is no need for enemies.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 11:04:04 AM EDT
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Schiff  Is Probably A Tax Evader. Just like His Father.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 12:24:31 PM EDT
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Peter Schiff is a moron/fraudster.
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Lol we’re in the middle of the biggest fraudulent currency printing head-fake in history of the world by central banks, he puts clients’ money in real, tangible product producing companies, and he’s the fraudster
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 12:31:30 PM EDT
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Lol we’re in the middle of the biggest fraudulent currency printing head-fake in history of the world by central banks, he puts clients’ money in real, tangible product producing companies, and he’s the fraudster
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Yeah the guy that usually has trouble beating the mattress fund in yields (he still gets his management fee though), and who "predicted" the housing stock market crash but somehow his fund performed worse than just about any fund out there when the crash happened. The guy that has predicted 24 of our last 3 recessions and uses FUD to sell his underperforming funds.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 12:38:26 PM EDT
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Yeah the guy that usually has trouble beating the mattress fund in yields (he still gets his management fee though), and who "predicted" the housing stock market crash but somehow his fund performed worse than just about any fund out there when the crash happened. The guy that has predicted 24 of our last 3 recessions and uses FUD to sell his underperforming funds.
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Lol we’re in the middle of the biggest fraudulent currency printing head-fake in history of the world by central banks, he puts clients’ money in real, tangible product producing companies, and he’s the fraudster
Yeah the guy that usually has trouble beating the mattress fund in yields (he still gets his management fee though), and who "predicted" the housing stock market crash but somehow his fund performed worse than just about any fund out there when the crash happened. The guy that has predicted 24 of our last 3 recessions and uses FUD to sell his underperforming funds.
Going the opposite way will always underperform until the correction happens.  The only thing he got wrong is how much unbelievable faith people have that central banks can print us into prosperity. Increase money supply by 87%, get 2% real growth.  Nothing to see here.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 12:42:15 PM EDT
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Going the opposite way will always underperform until the correction happens.  The only thing he got wrong is how much unbelievable faith people have that central banks can print us into prosperity. Increase money supply by 87%, get 2% real growth.  Nothing to see here.
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The reason all of this money printing has not resulted in gigantic amounts of inflation is because money is created via debt nowadays, and debt is long-term deflationary since it needs to eventually be paid back plus interesting. Once the borrowing capacity is reached deflation usually happens, and it can continue with trillions being printed because the printing only covers the interest on the debt capacity.

The current system is not great in any sense, but he does not understand the mechanism.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 12:49:02 PM EDT
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I'd say most of the richest people in general are liberal, counting entertainers, journalists, pro athletes as well as major stockholders. I'd also guess they are only going to loose so much money to get rid of Trump. How much hard cash are willing to drop to do it? Then this won't work until 2020 unless they are going to call for his impeachment for colluding with the Russians to tank the market. Which only makes a little less sense than the Russians helping Trump win in the first place.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 12:50:00 PM EDT
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Fed needs to be reformed to be a 100% public entity under the Department of the Treasury.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 12:50:19 PM EDT
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The reason all of this money printing has not resulted in gigantic amounts of inflation is because money is created via debt nowadays, and debt is long-term deflationary since it needs to eventually be paid back plus interesting. Once the borrowing capacity is reached deflation usually happens, and it can continue with trillions being printed because the printing only covers the interest on the debt capacity.

The current system is not great in any sense, but he does not understand the mechanism.
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Going the opposite way will always underperform until the correction happens.  The only thing he got wrong is how much unbelievable faith people have that central banks can print us into prosperity. Increase money supply by 87%, get 2% real growth.  Nothing to see here.
The reason all of this money printing has not resulted in gigantic amounts of inflation is because money is created via debt nowadays, and debt is long-term deflationary since it needs to eventually be paid back plus interesting. Once the borrowing capacity is reached deflation usually happens, and it can continue with trillions being printed because the printing only covers the interest on the debt capacity.

The current system is not great in any sense, but he does not understand the mechanism.
mmm hmmm. The US will be different than Argentina.  Weimar Germany. Zimbabwe.

Because we’re America dammit!

Ain’t nobody got time for inflation here.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 12:53:47 PM EDT
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We’d be like Japan. Little difference in the outcome.

The constitution is clear. Paper currency and central banking is 100% illegal. That’s why congress made the Fed in the first place.

The constitution also says it is illegal for congress to delegate its powers, but who cares.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 12:54:29 PM EDT
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The reason all of this money printing has not resulted in gigantic amounts of inflation is because money is created via debt nowadays, and debt is long-term deflationary since it needs to eventually be paid back plus interesting. Once the borrowing capacity is reached deflation usually happens, and it can continue with trillions being printed because the printing only covers the interest on the debt capacity.

The current system is not great in any sense, but he does not understand the mechanism.
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Money creation IS inflation.

The reasons the inflation of the money supply hasn't caused an drastic increase in the general price level (what you and millions of other Americans have been taught to think of as "inflation") are complex. One of them is that a substantial portion of that money was never put in circulation. $2.2T of it is on deposit with the Fed as excess reserves.

Ponder, if you will, what would happen to the general price level if the banks decided to use those excess deposits to support new loans.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 12:55:12 PM EDT
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You want Obama, for example, in charge of the FRB? You crazy. Satan being in charge of it would literally be better.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 1:00:20 PM EDT
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One of the dumbest theories ever posted.

The Fed.  A group of banking executives wanting to torpedo a president who slashed corporate tax rates during one of the biggest post bellum economic growth sprees in history.

Makes total fucking sense.  Derp.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 1:02:15 PM EDT
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fed doesn't control the market, they may have the biggest oar in the water, but that ain't control. It's to big for them, which is saying something considering the FRB is the most powerful group in human history.
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I disagree.  Let's say the Fed raises interest rates to even a modest 4% and we'll have a bear market immediately.  Bad for Trump, but ultimately good for America.  The Fed pushing interest down do .5% under FBHO was reckless as fuck.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 1:07:05 PM EDT
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I disagree.  Let's say the Fed raises interest rates to even a modest 4% and we'll have a bear market immediately.  Bad for Trump, but ultimately good for America.  The Fed pushing interest down do .5% under FBHO was reckless as fuck.
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fed doesn't control the market, they may have the biggest oar in the water, but that ain't control. It's to big for them, which is saying something considering the FRB is the most powerful group in human history.
I disagree.  Let's say the Fed raises interest rates to even a modest 4% and we'll have a bear market immediately.  Bad for Trump, but ultimately good for America.  The Fed pushing interest down do .5% under FBHO was reckless as fuck.
Has there not been talk of raising rates three times this year?
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 1:24:34 PM EDT
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I disagree.  Let's say the Fed raises interest rates to even a modest 4% and we'll have a bear market immediately.  Bad for Trump, but ultimately good for America.  The Fed pushing interest down do .5% under FBHO was reckless as fuck.
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I'm pretty sure a 4% interest rate would push the Federal debt service load well above 100% of GDP............
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 5:17:45 PM EDT
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yes, the frb doesn't control the interest rate for everything in the country. They have the most influence on rates, but there is a market for this and they don't control it.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 6:01:16 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure a 4% interest rate would push the Federal debt service load well above 100% of GDP............
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I disagree.  Let's say the Fed raises interest rates to even a modest 4% and we'll have a bear market immediately.  Bad for Trump, but ultimately good for America.  The Fed pushing interest down do .5% under FBHO was reckless as fuck.
I'm pretty sure a 4% interest rate would push the Federal debt service load well above 100% of GDP............
It’s already 104%

In 2008 it was 64%

Phony recovery.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 6:21:54 PM EDT
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Well we should end the Fed.
All citizens can turn in their "Federal Reserve Notes" to be replaced by new "Treasury Notes."
All foreigners can go fuck themselves, they get nothing...
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 6:49:04 PM EDT
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Peter Schiff talking his own book? Color me shocked!
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 10:08:03 PM EDT
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Well we should end the Fed.
All citizens can turn in their "Federal Reserve Notes" to be replaced by new "Treasury Notes."
All foreigners can go fuck themselves, they get nothing...
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You should run for national office and head economic policy.

Maybe I'd finally get to actually pop Pmags.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 10:26:56 PM EDT
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Nothing particularly secret about it.   It's a sort of nuclear option.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 10:39:55 PM EDT
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So I guess some of you thought it was going straight up forever. Markets correct, sometimes markets correct biggly. Just the way it works.
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