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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:03:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You could argue that George Washington, leading an Army to force citizens to pay unfair taxes, (Whisky Rebellion)was a large expansion of Government power It was Fuck the Sedition Act while we're at it. |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:03:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i wanted to be pissed, i really did but i'm not, not even a little. do better.  It's a sweet little rifle. My dad bought it in a liquor store in Kountze in 1969 
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:04:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Misreading history is a GD tradition. He'd be considered right of Pinochet by today's standards. WTF is wrong with y'all? Just for that we are changing the name of Ft Sam Houston to Ft Richie Valenzuela instead of "To the Colors" we will play "La Bamba". |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:05:32 PM EDT
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A lot of misguided and erroneous law came out of that era.
1. The administrative state. A belief that a superior class could properly direct the state. A lot of classim and racism from the comparatively few with elite educations or pedigrees. Direct predecessor to today's elites and the two class Democrat party. 2. The civil service laws. The consequences of having a permanently employed government workforce are now in full harmful effect. Corruption, cooption of the Democrat party, excessive post-retirement legacy budget expense, resistant to change, inefficient. 3. Everything is a dramatic battle. Government as the only solution. Diminishment of the individual. A playing field tilted to massive corporations who can deal with regulation. Revolving door cronyism. ETA: 4. Misguided monopoly law. A legacy of ruining companies providing excellent value, service, and prices to the market. Aluminum, petroleum, aircraft, rail, etc. |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:05:45 PM EDT
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The worst thing that TR did was to split the vote with Taft in 1912 and allow Woodrow Wilson to become president.
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:06:14 PM EDT
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Some of you are just absolute fucking assholes who wish we were forced to work 16 hours a day with no labor protection laws.
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:07:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a sweet little rifle. My dad bought it in a liquor store in Kountze in 1969 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: i wanted to be pissed, i really did but i'm not, not even a little. do better. It's a sweet little rifle. My dad bought it in a liquor store in Kountze in 1969 somewhere my dad has a cowboy commemorative 30-30 winchester from the 70s it's a sloppy POS but i don't remember if i've ever even fired it. story is that he traded an 8-track deck for it though so he came out on top no matter what |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:09:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i feel like we need some @1andy2 insight here He was pretty much the prototype progressive politician. He ran against his own former VP because he felt he wasn't progressive enough. Hell, his party in that presidential run was called the Progressive Party. |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:09:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of you are just absolute fucking assholes who wish we were forced to work 16 hours a day with no labor protection laws. that's just how i roll, mofo |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:09:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: somewhere my dad has a cowboy commemorative 30-30 winchester from the 70s it's a sloppy POS but i don't remember if i've ever even fired it. story is that he traded an 8-track deck for it though so he came out on top no matter what 
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:10:20 PM EDT
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Thread titles like this are why I love GD.
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:10:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat meme is literally stupid |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:11:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That meme is literally stupid Quote HistoryQuoted: That meme is literally stupid literally |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:11:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Progressive 100+ years ago is not the same thing as progressive today. The philosophical underpinnings are identical. That individuals cannot run their own lives and need a big strong government controlling everything for them, making the world safe for them, and controlling their personal behavior for their own good. The progressive movement of the late 1890s/1900s was the genesis of the overgrown monster of a Federal government we now labor under. |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:14:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of misguided and erroneous law came out of that era. 1. The administrative state. A belief that a superior class could properly direct the state. A lot of classim and racism from the comparatively few with elite educations or pedigrees. Direct predecessor to today's elites and the two class Democrat party. 2. The civil service laws. The consequences of having a permanently employed government workforce are now in full harmful effect. Corruption, cooption of the Democrat party, excessive post-retirement legacy budget expense, resistant to change, inefficient. 3. Everything is a dramatic battle. Government as the only solution. Diminishment of the individual. A playing field tilted to massive corporations who can deal with regulation. Revolving door cronyism. ETA: 4. Misguided monopoly law. A legacy of ruining companies providing excellent value, service, and prices to the market. Aluminum, petroleum, aircraft, rail, etc. This guy gets it |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:14:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know, it was worse op is utterly clueless. |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:15:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That meme is literally stupid Like…OMG…literally stupid |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:16:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL op is utterly clueless. Touch grass |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:17:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's the one that sported a Winchester .405 wasn't he? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: i agree but i bet he would have been one fun motherfucker to hang out with He's the one that sported a Winchester .405 wasn't he? Yup. Hunted lion on horseback with a levergun. He's also the one who got shot in the chest, kept the crowd from lynching the shooter, gave a 90 minute speech and then went to hospital. The biggest balls of any President we've ever had by quite a margin. |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:17:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He was pretty much the prototype progressive politician. He ran against his own former VP because he felt he wasn't progressive enough. Hell, his party in that presidential run was called the Progressive Party. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: i feel like we need some @1andy2 insight here He was pretty much the prototype progressive politician. He ran against his own former VP because he felt he wasn't progressive enough. Hell, his party in that presidential run was called the Progressive Party. and this is why i invited you and stayed away from the mashed potatoes. sure enough, dick prints... |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:19:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of you are just absolute fucking assholes who wish we were forced to work 16 hours a day with no labor protection laws. Is there someone here advocating that? No. Plus, a lot of workers are back to permanent on-call, or never-ending email expectations. The unions are mostly government workers and have failed everyone else. It's their own damn fault for being involved with Leftist politics, antiquated ideas about retirement methods, idiotic work rules. Unions still press for non-portable, non-individual, long vesting period defined benefits pensions instead of day 1 vesting into individually owned retirement investments. Far too many company and union plans are rip-offs. |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:20:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: progressive ? yes. most progressive president in history. trash. thats gotta be a troll post. he was the most popular president in history. his progressive agenda had to do with things like ending child labor, breaking trusts and similar stuff. he built up american military prior to wwI. he was one of the great men of his age. Throw out some rando bullshit and say "fight me" "change my mind" or "discuss" is by definition trolling for a argument. |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:20:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You could argue that George Washington, leading an Army to force citizens to pay unfair taxes, (Whisky Rebellion)was a large expansion of Government power He didn't lead an army, he led a citizen militia. WTF do you guys think the 2A was for? |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:22:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of you are just absolute fucking assholes who wish we were forced to work 16 hours a day with no labor protection laws. No force |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:23:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He didn't lead an army, he led a citizen militia. WTF do you guys think the 2A was for? I flex on eurofags on instagram. Literally. |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:25:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's been canceled by New York so he couldn't have been too bad. They completely scrubbed him from the Natural History museum. I haven’t seen any recent episodes but is TR still featured heavily in Frank Reagan’s office on Blue Bloods? |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:27:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You could argue that George Washington, leading an Army to force citizens to pay unfair taxes, (Whisky Rebellion)was a large expansion of Government power Can you get any dumber? |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:29:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you get any dumber? |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:30:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course it's a troll post. Throw out some rando bullshit and say "fight me" "change my mind" or "discuss" is by definition trolling for a argument. I’ve joined in too |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:30:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: and this is why i invited you and stayed away from the mashed potatoes. sure enough, dick prints...
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:32:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: literally That the best you got? One would think long into the era of autocorrect phones that spelling nazis would come up with a different tactic, ie, actually discussing the subject at hand. |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:32:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That the best you got? One would think long into the era of autocorrect phones that spelling nazis would come up with a different tactic, ie, actually discussing the subject at hand. you're doing great |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:35:49 PM EDT
[#33]
OP is right
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:38:30 PM EDT
[#34]
Nice forum hand grenade there.
 TR was from the moderate progressive wing of the Republican Party, sure. However, much of his labor policy was intended to halt the growth of communism in the US (if not for the betterment of children and everyone's working conditions). While I'd have preferred a small government President, myself, I don't know that the country has *ever* really had one. Coolidge is probably the closest one (or, perhaps, one of the nameless, ineffectual Presidents from the late 19th Century; even then, it was more likely they just couldn't get anything done). |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:38:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He didn't lead an army, he led a citizen militia. WTF do you guys think the 2A was for? Do you honestly think the idiots (mostly) of GD actually do something like read an actual history book? I still have not fully made up my mind on which branch of collectivists actually try to rewrite history the most. |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:48:17 PM EDT
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So how many in this thread criticising the trust busting have actually read "Inquiry to the cause of the rise of wealth amongst nations"?
Edit: So how communistic do you guys think this quote is? "the understandings of the greater part of men are necessarily formed by their ordinary employments. The man whose whole life is spent in performing a few simple operations, of which the effects are perhaps always the same, or very nearly the same, has no occasion to exert his understanding or to exercise his invention in finding out expedients for removing difficulties which never occur. He naturally loses, therefore, the habit of such exertion, and generally becomes as stupid and ignorant as it is possible for a human creature to become. The torpor of his mind renders him not only incapable of relishing or bearing a part in any rational conversation, but of conceiving any generous, noble, or tender sentiment, and consequently of forming any just judgment concerning many even of the ordinary duties of private life... But in every improved and civilized society this is the state into which the labouring poor, that is, the great body of the people, must necessarily fall, unless government takes some pains to prevent it." |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 11:56:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve joined in too With four word post. Please engage the conversation on why your position on TR is so complicated. But maybe you can not as maybe sentences are to complicated. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 12:09:39 AM EDT
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Atilla the Hun was an anticolonial, non aligned, commie
Really a leftist tbqh |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 12:12:18 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's the one that sported a Winchester .405 wasn't he? Yep! 405 Win for the win. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 12:13:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of you are just absolute fucking assholes who wish we were forced to work 16 hours a day with no labor protection laws. And would rather our forests be Amazon warehouses and Walmart parking lots. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 12:14:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's been canceled by New York so he couldn't have been too bad. They completely scrubbed him from the Natural History museum. New York's loss, North Dakota's gain. Statue and all. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 12:14:44 AM EDT
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Quoted: Discuss 
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Posted: 5/10/2023 12:16:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Misreading history is a GD tradition. He'd be considered right of Pinochet by today's standards. WTF is wrong with y'all? Most of GD is a bunch of cocksucking statists that lick the taint of the current issues |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 12:19:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With four word post. Please engage the conversation on why your position on TR is so complicated. But maybe you can not as maybe sentences are to complicated. I already have. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 12:37:22 AM EDT
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Teddy Roosevelt was the original George W. Bush.
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Posted: 5/10/2023 12:49:52 AM EDT
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Just communist piece of shit
That helped make America what it is today |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 12:59:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just communist piece of shit That helped make America what it is today He isn’t a communist piece of shit, he is a uniquely American piece of shit. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 1:03:44 AM EDT
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I was at Lake Tear in the Clouds last year taking it all in. Pretty neat to know Roosevelt found out he was going to be President while resting there before his planned summit of Mount Marcy. It’s brutal getting there. I can only imagine how horrible it must’ve been with the gear they had.
That’s all I have. Fascinating character otherwise. Had a life of envy. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 2:25:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet this pisses y'all off. This is my Teddy Roosevelt Commemorative Winchester model 94. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124978/win94_jpg-2811627.JPG Nice. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 2:26:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. Hunted lion on horseback with a levergun. He's also the one who got shot in the chest, kept the crowd from lynching the shooter, gave a 90 minute speech and then went to hospital. The biggest balls of any President we've ever had by quite a margin. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: i agree but i bet he would have been one fun motherfucker to hang out with He's the one that sported a Winchester .405 wasn't he? Yup. Hunted lion on horseback with a levergun. He's also the one who got shot in the chest, kept the crowd from lynching the shooter, gave a 90 minute speech and then went to hospital. The biggest balls of any President we've ever had by quite a margin. ... and the morals and political sense of a mayfly. What a combo! |
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