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Quoted: Two things about that surprise me. First, no one died in that small of a space with 3 grenades detonating. Second, they all just stared at them and didn't try to take any type of cover. Do that shit in a mall in middle America I could see people being shocked and not know what is going on. But the country is a literal war zone, you'd think they'd realize wtf was up View Quote I'm still not buying into this. Most places in Ukraine are perfectly safe. The country is nowhere near a "war zone", it's all propaganda. |
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He was just standing there with them in his hands for a decent amount of time before he pulled the pins. I guess some guy walking into a room with grenades is a normal thing there or something?
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Monty Python-Holy Hand Grenade |
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Flashbangs?
Or the tiny golfball sized concussion. Those were some weak ass "grenades". |
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Room full of assholes and not one them yelled "frag out" in Ukrainian.
This is how all political disputes should be moderated lol! |
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People just sitting there looking at the grenade.
If you think you’d react differently then you are wrong. When something completely unexpected happens it takes your brain a while to process. Like deer in the headlights. If you ever been involved in a situation like this you’d understand the zillion thoughts going through your head at that moment…”WTF?, what is that? Is that really a grenade?, Is this really happening? Am I in danger?…for real?” BOOM!! You’re only defense is your bodies involuntarily fight or flight mechanism. Hopefully it kicked in and ran to safety before your brain figured out what was happening. |
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Quoted: Pretty clear they were RDG-5s. Compared to M67s, they suck. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Rgd_5_hand_grenade.jpeg/800px-Rgd_5_hand_grenade.jpeg View Quote Thats what it looks like when I pause it and take it frame by frame |
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Quoted: Pretty clear they were RDG-5s. Compared to M67s, they suck. View Quote Maybe so, but these specs say most people in that room should have been greviously injured at the very least. Contains a 110-gram (3.9 oz) charge of TNT with an internal fragmentation liner that produces around 350 fragments with a fatality radius of around 3 metres (9.8 ft.) and a wounding radius of 25 metres (82 ft.) Do age and storage conditions degrade TNT? |
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I used to have hyper vigilance - high level of situational awareness back after 9-11 and at various times since. when things here got sketchy. To the extent I would make sure how I was positioned if sitting at a table in a restaurant and I damned well wouldn't be in any room with only one exit. Time to revisit that posture.
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Quoted: Thats what it looks like when I pause it and take it frame by frame View Quote Just the other day was the video of that IDF soldier getting what is most likely one of these grenades go off right in front of him in a hallway. He gets up and waste the guy who tossed it. |
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Quoted: There are dozens of videos of these going of right next to people, and while they probably have frag and concussion injuries, hardly any show instant incapacitation. Just the other day was the video of that IDF soldier getting what is most likely one of these grenades go off right in front of him in a hallway. He gets up and waste the guy who tossed it. View Quote Yep I recall Just amazing they suck that bad |
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one for you, one for you. Here Ivanova, you can have this one.
MEEP, MEEP, MEEP |
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I think most likely a bunch of those people are dead and they are calling them injured for propaganda purposes.
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I am going to guess they were not grenades, maybe flash bangs, because nobody died.
3 Real grenades in that room and few would have survived. |
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Quoted: People just sitting there looking at the grenade. If you think you’d react differently then you are wrong. When something completely unexpected happens it takes your brain a while to process. Like deer in the headlights. If you ever been involved in a situation like this you’d understand the zillion thoughts going through your head at that moment…”WTF?, what is that? Is that really a grenade?, Is this really happening? Am I in danger?…for real?” BOOM!! You’re only defense is your bodies involuntarily fight or flight mechanism. Hopefully it kicked in and ran to safety before your brain figured out what was happening. View Quote We don't have "fight or flight" anymore, it's been selectively bred out of us and replaced with "freeze or film". Those are the only 2 things we know how to do. Either cower in fear, or pull out your phone and record it for tiktok. |
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Quoted: Wow, three grenades in a small room and nobody died? I mean, tossing a grenade is one of the most anticlimactic things I've done after growing up watching '80s action movies (with huge fireball and vehicles being launched into the sky), but still, you'd have expected some deaths in that confined space. He'd have saved more lives if he'd taken out zelenski instead. View Quote Flashbangs? |
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Quoted: I am going to guess they were not grenades, maybe flash bangs, because nobody died. 3 Real grenades in that room and few would have survived. View Quote They're just really shitty grenades. We had a local guy get the MOH for diving on one in a firefight and he didn't die. Like took the full blast on purpose and is walking and talking. |
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Quoted: The only thing Ukraine can offer as a viable export now is their women. We got involved in a Civil War, should have minded our own damn business and given all the support and military equipment to Poland. View Quote I mean, if that’s your obsession, then sure. Never mind the grain and exports of Russian military collectibles from the “2 day war”. |
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The grenade tosser stood there and ate at least the first 2 without reaction.
I’m going with fake Ukrainian propaganda on this one. |
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