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Quoted: This. TS, please stop smoking the Purple Kush... It does weird things to you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I always consider 'the blaze' one step up from WND. Anyway.. IN. This. TS, please stop smoking the Purple Kush... It does weird things to you. Smoking the what? How would you know what it does? |
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That will never happen. Even if they try it will still be there. In any event, trying to ban a plant that grows wild in all 50 states is . Treat it like ETOH and move on. For harder drugs, the current WOD tactics are not working. It is well past time to try something else. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I always consider 'the blaze' one step up from WND. Anyway.. IN. How about the Washington Post? http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/04/17/state-seizes-11-year-old-arrests-his-mother-after-he-defends-medical-marijuana-during-a-school-presentation/ I question what they had for probably cause on the warrant. More believable. But I like it when reporters leave their opinions out of news articles. That will never happen. Even if they try it will still be there. In any event, trying to ban a plant that grows wild in all 50 states is . Treat it like ETOH and move on. For harder drugs, the current WOD tactics are not working. It is well past time to try something else. The WOD will never be won. It is like emptying the ocean with a teaspoon. However, burglaries related to drug usage I dont see going down. Heroin junkies will never hold a stable job, and will need to resort to other means to support their lifestyle. |
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The most intelligent thing we could do with the WOD right now is stop enforcement against darkweb markets. Cutting inner city street gangs out of the drug equation would almost certainly make things a whole lot safer.
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Quoted: People need to feel safe. So it's okay for them to do this. It's strange, but I'm getting to the point where the only "bad guys" I fear work for government. In over 4 decades of life, the only gang members, crooks, and criminals I've EVER had to deal with work for the government. They're the only people who've ever used the threat of violence to steal my money. They're the only people who use coercion to make me obey them. I guess that's why I don't like stories like these. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: War on drugs wins again. We should ban alcohol as well, while we're at it. That will surely work. People need to feel safe. So it's okay for them to do this. It's strange, but I'm getting to the point where the only "bad guys" I fear work for government. In over 4 decades of life, the only gang members, crooks, and criminals I've EVER had to deal with work for the government. They're the only people who've ever used the threat of violence to steal my money. They're the only people who use coercion to make me obey them. I guess that's why I don't like stories like these. Agree 100% |
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I have a question. Aren't kids supposed to be accompanied by their parents or guardians when they are being questioned by LEO? Or was he questioned by CPS and they passed the info along to the PD? But still, questioning an 11 year without representation is now ok?
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Quoted: You probably have an accent and ask for unsweet tea. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't lose a wink worrying about cops and feds. I worry about hood rats and the political leaders. I'm about 50/50. The cops around here are too busy relaxing and dealing with the regulars to bother with little old me. I'm more worried about the cops here than back home. You probably have an accent and ask for unsweet tea. Dag-gum Yankees! |
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I'd go into my home, fuck them. They beat me up the it's sue baby sue time.
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The WoD sucks and needs to end, but it sounds like the cops did it by the book.
It seems weird that a pro-medical mj activist would leave a state where recreational mj is legal. She's probably regretting that right now. If mj ever becomes legal, I may partake, but until it does its just too damn risky to fuck with currently. |
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the gofundme for her (link in the original article) has her side
On March 24, cannabis oil activist Shona Banda‘s life was flipped upside-down after her son was taken from her by the State of Kansas. The ordeal started when police and counselors at her 11-year-old son’s school conducted a drug education class. Her son, who had previously lived in Colorado for a period of time, disagreed with some of the anti-pot points that were being made by school officials. "My son says different things like my ‘Mom calls it cannabis and not marijuana.’ He let them know how educated he was on the facts,” said Banda in an exclusive interview with BenSwann.com. Banda successfully treated her own Crohn’s disease with cannabis oil. After her son spoke out about medical marijuana, police detained him and launched a raid on Shona Banda’s home. "Well, they had that drug education class at school that was just conducted by the counselors… They pulled my son out of school at about 1:40 in the afternoon and interrogated him. Police showed up at my house at 3… I let them know that they weren’t allowed in my home without a warrant… I didn’t believe you could get a warrant off of something a child says in school.” Banda continued, "We waited from 3 o’clock until 6 o’clock. They got a warrant at 6 o’clock at night and executed a warrant into my home. My husband and I are separated, and neither parent was contacted by authorities before [our son] was taken and questioned.” "They subsequently conducted a raid and then called me when the raid was over letting me know that there was a list of items they took on my kitchen table, I was allowed to go home, and [an officer] gave me his word I would not be arrested in person or at work and that charges would be given to me in a postcard in the mail. I have not been charged with anything at this point, but I have a hard time believing that it’s OK for them to interrogate my child without parental consent for hours,” said Banda. A report by The Human Solution International notes that officers found 2 ounces of cannabis and an ounce of cannabis oil during the raid. Banda then described the actions that the State of Kansas began to take in an effort to take her son from her, "On the 24th, he was taken into custody. That was on a Tuesday. He was taken out of town Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. Friday we had a temporary hearing… and temporary custody was granted to my ex. Now the only reason why temporary custody was granted to my ex is because the judge said something to the effect that the amount of cannabis found in my home was going to possibly be felony charges and it was pointless letting the child return home to his mother.” She believes that the state is trying to take her son away and said, "The state is trying to deem it to where [Shona's ex-husband] is not fit and I’m not fit and they’re trying to take custody of our child.” "For him to have spoken up in class I can’t be upset about because he hears me daily on the phone talking with people, encouraging people to speak up and speak out. We did have the talk about how it’s not OK to bring this up in Kansas, because it’s a different state [than Colorado]. It’s very confusing for a child,” said Banda, noting how difficult it can be for children to understand how something could be considered legal medicine in one state and contraband in another. Authorities have yet to charge Banda with a crime, and her next custody hearing is set to take place on April 20. |
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I believe it's going to depend on what the child told the police. If he told the police that his mother had drugs in the house then they're out of luck. If they obtained and executed a warrant based on the child's views then it's far more complicated. Let's have a little hypothetical scenario. Say you're in California and there's a discussion about gun control. Your child espouses the views he was taught regarding those weapons. Is that probable cause for a search warrant ? If they find an "illegal" weapon after executing the warrant, similar to the "contraband" found in this woman's house, what then? Again, depending on what the child told police during questioning, which will be a can of worms in and of itself. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why? As long as drugs are against the law in the state and the mother keeps illegal drugs in her home and her minor is advocating using illegal drugs in school. You have not got a fucking prayer or a leg to stand on. I believe it's going to depend on what the child told the police. If he told the police that his mother had drugs in the house then they're out of luck. If they obtained and executed a warrant based on the child's views then it's far more complicated. Let's have a little hypothetical scenario. Say you're in California and there's a discussion about gun control. Your child espouses the views he was taught regarding those weapons. Is that probable cause for a search warrant ? If they find an "illegal" weapon after executing the warrant, similar to the "contraband" found in this woman's house, what then? Again, depending on what the child told police during questioning, which will be a can of worms in and of itself. In CA it isn't, but don't let that stop your infantile droolings. |
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So they don't enter the house w/o the warrant. Three hours later they have the warrant issued by a judge on probable cause. Find two ounces of cannabis oil, which is illegal in Kansas where she now is. Sounds like they followed that pesky constitution and states rights stuff. Eta: charges need not be filed as they build their case. What was the probable cause? A kid saying his mom has/uses drugs. Would that be enough? I doubt it, that's like... "The three year old kid in the wagon across the street said crack pipe and pointed at your house sir, step aside" I would think a bit more than an adolescent claim would be necessary to warrant a warrant you realize how many wet dreams you are stepping on? |
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Yep. Some people need to read the article. They were getting a warrant. They aren't going to let her in. There MUST be more to the story, since they had enough PC to get a warrant. Granted, she has videos saying how she makes the THC oil and admits to continuing its use. 2 oz of THC oil is what they found. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You are free to leave but not free to enter you home? How does that work? Keeping her from destroying evidence. I won't speculate openly,but I certainly wonder exactly what the son might have said during his "debate". She should have stayed in CO. Yep. Some people need to read the article. They were getting a warrant. They aren't going to let her in. There MUST be more to the story, since they had enough PC to get a warrant. Granted, she has videos saying how she makes the THC oil and admits to continuing its use. 2 oz of THC oil is what they found. Serious question. If she was home at the time could they come to her house and ask her to leave because they are getting a warrant? Did they just assume she wasn't home when they arrived pre warrant to stop her from entering when she did come home. I'm guessing they at least knocked on the door during that time to see if she was home. |
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Quoted: I believe it's going to depend on what the child told the police. If he told the police that his mother had drugs in the house then they're out of luck. If they obtained and executed a warrant based on the child's views then it's far more complicated. Let's have a little hypothetical scenario. Say you're in California and there's a discussion about gun control. Your child espouses the views he was taught regarding those weapons. Is that probable cause for a search warrant ? If they find an "illegal" weapon after executing the warrant, similar to the "contraband" found in this woman's house, what then? Again, depending on what the child told police during questioning, which will be a can of worms in and of itself. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Why? As long as drugs are against the law in the state and the mother keeps illegal drugs in her home and her minor is advocating using illegal drugs in school. You have not got a fucking prayer or a leg to stand on. I believe it's going to depend on what the child told the police. If he told the police that his mother had drugs in the house then they're out of luck. If they obtained and executed a warrant based on the child's views then it's far more complicated. Let's have a little hypothetical scenario. Say you're in California and there's a discussion about gun control. Your child espouses the views he was taught regarding those weapons. Is that probable cause for a search warrant ? If they find an "illegal" weapon after executing the warrant, similar to the "contraband" found in this woman's house, what then? Again, depending on what the child told police during questioning, which will be a can of worms in and of itself. First: Garden City KS Second: Kansas Public School system. Lastly: I can see your hypothetical scenario happening right here in Kansas, probably to somebody like me. |
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...They Tell Her Something Outrageous — and It’s Because Her Son Spoke Up in School.
Picture this: You pull into your driveway, hop out and find half a dozen police officers and social workers who, without having a warrant, bar you from your own home. Banda’s 11-year-old son had argued in favor of marijuana at a school anti-drug presentation, and so the school called the state child protection agency. Banda repeatedly asks whether police have a warrant, and they repeatedly admit they do not — but they stake out her property and refuse to let her enter. The police several times tell her, "You’re free to leave at any time.” Now Banda could lose her child, and temporary custody has already been granted to her ex, she said, even though no criminal charges have been filed against her, the Post noted. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/04/18/woman-comes-home-to-find-cops-surrounding-her-house-they-dont-have-a-warrant-but-they-tell-her-something-outrageous-and-its-because-her-son-spoke-up-in-school/ View Quote Feel safer yet? - TS View Quote I think there is probably more to this. Are we living in the age of dawning police state? Yes. Are social workers generally a bunch of liberal busybodies that would like nothing more than to kidnap children? Yes. All that said I doubt this happened how what you posted makes it seem. I think it probably happened because the kid said very loudly and publicly that his mother was a pot head and got stoned all the time at home. |
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War on drugs wins again. We should ban alcohol as well, while we're at it. That will surely work. People need to feel safe. So it's okay for them to do this. It's strange, but I'm getting to the point where the only "bad guys" I fear work for government. In over 4 decades of life, the only gang members, crooks, and criminals I've EVER had to deal with work for the government. They're the only people who've ever used the threat of violence to steal my money. They're the only people who use coercion to make me obey them. I guess that's why I don't like stories like these. Those DoD contractors scare me the most. |
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the gofundme for her (link in the original article) has her side On March 24, cannabis oil activist Shona Banda‘s life was flipped upside-down after her son was taken from her by the State of Kansas. The ordeal started when police and counselors at her 11-year-old son’s school conducted a drug education class. Her son, who had previously lived in Colorado for a period of time, disagreed with some of the anti-pot points that were being made by school officials. "My son says different things like my ‘Mom calls it cannabis and not marijuana.’ He let them know how educated he was on the facts,” said Banda in an exclusive interview with BenSwann.com. Banda successfully treated her own Crohn’s disease with cannabis oil. After her son spoke out about medical marijuana, police detained him and launched a raid on Shona Banda’s home. "Well, they had that drug education class at school that was just conducted by the counselors… They pulled my son out of school at about 1:40 in the afternoon and interrogated him. Police showed up at my house at 3… I let them know that they weren’t allowed in my home without a warrant… I didn’t believe you could get a warrant off of something a child says in school.” Banda continued, "We waited from 3 o’clock until 6 o’clock. They got a warrant at 6 o’clock at night and executed a warrant into my home. My husband and I are separated, and neither parent was contacted by authorities before [our son] was taken and questioned.” "They subsequently conducted a raid and then called me when the raid was over letting me know that there was a list of items they took on my kitchen table, I was allowed to go home, and [an officer] gave me his word I would not be arrested in person or at work and that charges would be given to me in a postcard in the mail. I have not been charged with anything at this point, but I have a hard time believing that it’s OK for them to interrogate my child without parental consent for hours,” said Banda. A report by The Human Solution International notes that officers found 2 ounces of cannabis and an ounce of cannabis oil during the raid. Banda then described the actions that the State of Kansas began to take in an effort to take her son from her, "On the 24th, he was taken into custody. That was on a Tuesday. He was taken out of town Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. Friday we had a temporary hearing… and temporary custody was granted to my ex. Now the only reason why temporary custody was granted to my ex is because the judge said something to the effect that the amount of cannabis found in my home was going to possibly be felony charges and it was pointless letting the child return home to his mother.” She believes that the state is trying to take her son away and said, "The state is trying to deem it to where [Shona's ex-husband] is not fit and I’m not fit and they’re trying to take custody of our child.” "For him to have spoken up in class I can’t be upset about because he hears me daily on the phone talking with people, encouraging people to speak up and speak out. We did have the talk about how it’s not OK to bring this up in Kansas, because it’s a different state [than Colorado]. It’s very confusing for a child,” said Banda, noting how difficult it can be for children to understand how something could be considered legal medicine in one state and contraband in another. Authorities have yet to charge Banda with a crime, and her next custody hearing is set to take place on April 20. View Quote That's too ironic, someone is shitting in her fruit loops and laughing about it |
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Search warrant affidavits in Kansas are open records as of last year's legislative session.
http://www.kansas.com/news/article1147508.html I imagine there will be more in the affidavit with little details about past history, CI buys, etc... |
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_v._McArthur
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My lawyer would be there so fucking fast he would make Superman look like he was using a walker.
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If the story is true, the mother needs get a mean as hell lawyer to tear the school system, child protection services and police dept who responded new assholes and sue for good amount money too! Why? As long as drugs are against the law in the state and the mother keeps illegal drugs in her home and her minor is advocating using illegal drugs in school. You have not got a fucking prayer or a leg to stand on. Pathetic advocating something illegal is not illegal.... |
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If the story is true, the mother needs get a mean as hell lawyer to tear the school system, child protection services and police dept who responded new assholes and sue for good amount money too! Why? As long as drugs are against the law in the state and the mother keeps illegal drugs in her home and her minor is advocating using illegal drugs in school. You have not got a fucking prayer or a leg to stand on. Pathetic advocating something illegal is not illegal.... That is the chilling part. I wonder exactly what the kid said. Did he say "pot is cool and should be legal, cause my mom smokes it"? If she did, the cops don't have much choice if called. The law in Kansas requires teaches to report illegal drug use if they know about it. |
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