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11/9/2008 8:31:38 AM EDT
I can't help but notice that every time somebody asks about these kits someone comes along to tell us what a douchenozzle Mr. John Ciener is.

Why? Is Ciener like Dan Cooper? Zumbo? That dude from Ammoman?

I've never dealt with him but were I to buy one of his kits I'd get it from elsewhere anyway... cheaper and quicker from a retailer, it seems. And I'd sooner have a dedicated upper for the money.
11/9/2008 8:32:38 AM EDT
[#1]
He did things like take pre-orders for new kits, then take those new kits and sell them at local gun shows for much higher prices, without refunding pre-orders.

He stops production to artificially inflate prices, then puts out a few more at the much higher demand, thus netting himself more cash...
11/9/2008 8:33:29 AM EDT
[#2]
redarts,


call him and ask him a couple questions,  then get back to us.


oh, order a conversion kit,  and then call and ask him when it's going to be delivered.


guy is an ass.
11/9/2008 8:38:48 AM EDT
[#3]
Sounds like a jackass.

If he's that easily set on edge, it may be fun for some prank calls when bored
11/9/2008 8:49:40 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
redarts,

guy is an ass.


And THAT'S on a GOOD day!
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