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Posted: Yesterday 2:02:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: whiskerz]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. Trump does not have to give them back and Biden is not authorized to possess those same documents and should have been charged criminally. |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:09:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1994LC3X: Xiden had zero authority to remove the documents he had and the moment he removed them he committed a crime,doesn’t matter if he gave them back,that’s like a bank robber returning the money he stole and not expecting to get charged with bank robbery. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1994LC3X: Originally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. Xiden had zero authority to remove the documents he had and the moment he removed them he committed a crime,doesn’t matter if he gave them back,that’s like a bank robber returning the money he stole and not expecting to get charged with bank robbery. Don't forget about FHC's private server. Also a blatant violation, but "no reasonable prosecutor". |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:09:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LordsOfDiscipline: Amazingly, some that currently handle classified material on this site do not understand this concept. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LordsOfDiscipline: Originally Posted By Ranxerox911: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By himarker: Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Biden stole documents he had no authority to possess. Trump did not. It's pretty basic. Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. It's the core concept that you aren't grasping. Very common thing among leftist and the NT crowd. And the terminally clueless. There are quite a few people here that are very familiar with how classified information is handled, created, destroyed, and stored; many have explained it at length - and yet some still believe the propaganda spewed by the media and by the FBI. Amazingly, some that currently handle classified material on this site do not understand this concept. They understand it, the TDS supersedes said understanding. |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:13:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Biden stole documents he had no authority to possess. Trump did not. It's pretty basic. I don't understand why this isn't reported everyday by the unbiased media. |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:15:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Biden stole documents he had no authority to possess. Trump did not. It's pretty basic. Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. Biden had no authority to take them as Vice President. Only the President can take them and unclassify them. |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:18:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. I know it’s a difficult concept but let’s spell it out. At the time in question where the individuals took documents: Trump = President Biden = Vice President VP is not President. Presidents have powers that are not afforded to the Vice President. |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:18:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Even "if" he was able to possess hem it doesn't mean he owns them. The government does and he was no longer the president. I'm not sure why you think a former employee of the government gets to keep government property Damn dude, your TDS is really showing...perhaps you need to step back and actually look at the facts and stop believing what the MSM and N_T's say, both have been proven wrong over and over when it comes to Trump, presidential powers and documents......... |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:22:48 PM EDT
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Posted: Yesterday 2:24:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LordsOfDiscipline: Amazingly, some that currently handle classified material on this site do not understand this concept. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LordsOfDiscipline: Originally Posted By Ranxerox911: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By himarker: Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Biden stole documents he had no authority to possess. Trump did not. It's pretty basic. Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. It's the core concept that you aren't grasping. Very common thing among leftist and the NT crowd. And the terminally clueless. There are quite a few people here that are very familiar with how classified information is handled, created, destroyed, and stored; many have explained it at length - and yet some still believe the propaganda spewed by the media and by the FBI. Amazingly, some that currently handle classified material on this site do not understand this concept. It isn't a failure to understand. It's willful defiance of the rules and a rabid repeat of this variant of Orange Man Bad. They aren't going to let the rules and actions of previous presidents dissuade them from claims that Trump is a threat to democracy. |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:25:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:49:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Biden stole documents he had no authority to possess. Trump did not. It's pretty basic. Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. I love almost 20 year old accounts come out as undercover DUtards. Year checks out too. |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:52:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: nu3gawhat]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Disco_Stu_TX: I know it’s a difficult concept but let’s spell it out. At the time in question where the individuals took documents: Trump = President Biden = Presidents have powers that are not afforded to Biden had documents going back from when he was a Senator. |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:53:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Biden stole documents he had no authority to possess. Trump did not. It's pretty basic. Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple.  |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:53:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PanzerOfDoom: They understand it, the TDS supersedes said understanding. 
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FL, USA
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Posted: Yesterday 2:54:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. sorry your guy "won". |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:55:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: osprey21]
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And these same scumbags wonder why people want them dead.
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Posted: Yesterday 2:56:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By O_Guiness: Originally Posted By PanzerOfDoom: They understand it, the TDS supersedes said understanding. https://i.imgur.com/UgxXJz1.gif The indictment has "piles of evidence". |
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Posted: Yesterday 2:58:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pr24guy: Biden had no authority to take them as Vice President. Only the President can take them and unclassify them. |
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Posted: Yesterday 3:03:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LordsOfDiscipline: The indictment has "piles of  evidence".FIFY |
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Posted: Yesterday 3:06:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paul: He needs to spend more time on the hot seat in front of the Senate. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paul: Originally Posted By nightstalker: We had Milley saying they withheld information .cause concerns. He'd be one guy I took to task. He needs to spend more time on the hot seat in front of the Senate. That sadly won't do anything. He is a POS traitor. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: Yesterday 3:10:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whiskerz: Trump does not have to give them back and Biden is not authorized to possess those same documents and should have been charged criminally. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whiskerz: Originally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. Trump does not have to give them back and Biden is not authorized to possess those same documents and should have been charged criminally. But remember he is too senile, per the feds to prosecute. Literally a confused Grandpa. |
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Posted: Yesterday 3:12:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple.  Attached File |
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Posted: Yesterday 3:20:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Glck1911: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/507494/IMG_9205_jpeg-3334807.JPG |
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Posted: Yesterday 3:23:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ENGCPT: A video AND a summary Today OP was a cool guy Absolutely. Thank you, OP. You should write directions on how you did that. |
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Posted: Yesterday 3:25:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jon101st: So why didn't they say he took government property then instead of "classified documents" . If they were after government property why was "classified" emphasized  Seems a bit misleading doesn't it! Did he also steal furniture from the White houseThat's the way the game is played.... 
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Posted: Yesterday 3:28:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ENGCPT: A video AND a summary Today OP was a cool guy |
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Posted: Yesterday 3:45:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. The request to return them was inappropriate. The dox in question belonged to Trump at his discretion and no laws were broken. Cope harder. |
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Posted: Yesterday 3:47:47 PM EDT
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FHC & FJB.
Is it possible Trump was obligated to turn the documents over and fight over them in court? Like being punished for lying to the FBI even if you've committed no crime? I don't know the law here and this seems to be the crux of it. Or have I misunderstood and Trump turned in everything requested, then was charged anyway? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: Yesterday 4:34:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. Lol! |
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Posted: Yesterday 4:36:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ENGCPT: A video AND a summary Today OP was a cool guy That. Thanks for not sucking OP. Because of that, I actually watched it. |
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Posted: Yesterday 6:04:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. If the feds did not think he had a legal right to posses them it was supposed to be a court fight over presidential powers, not a raid. Oh, and of course you missed the point that Biden never had a legal right to take anything as a Senator. He committed a felony and his cooperation in giving them back does not absolve him of that but you keep up with muddying the reality. |
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Posted: Yesterday 6:12:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. Biden wasn't supposed to posses them from day one . He stole them from a SCIF . |
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Posted: Yesterday 6:18:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR18: Well, we all know that Xiden used classified documents to fix his vette. Then he handed them off to Hunter to roll them up and snort cocaine through them. Hey dad, you done with that? |
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Posted: Yesterday 6:55:05 PM EDT
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This is a good analysis of what happened, detailing the conspiracy against Trump in the documents case.
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AL, USA
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Posted: Yesterday 7:00:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Biden stole documents he had no authority to possess. Trump did not. It's pretty basic. THIS. The President is THE Original Classification Authority. A Senator (Biden) or Secretary of State (Clinton) or National Security Advisor (Berger) has committed a crime by willfully removing classified documents from authorized storage areas. |
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Posted: Yesterday 7:04:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Biden stole documents he had no authority to possess. Trump did not. It's pretty basic. This! |
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Posted: Yesterday 8:05:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Biden stole documents he had no authority to possess. Trump did not. It's pretty basic. Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. Biden had documents he had no authority to have that is pretty simple. |
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Posted: Yesterday 8:09:48 PM EDT
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It doesn’t mean a hill of beans as long as the “media barrier” stays. The light will never be bright enough to make the roaches scatter.
As long as the majority of mass media is in the pocket of the left nothing will ever change. Change the media and you will watch the hardest hardcore lefties shift their position to the center. The problem is “how to fix” the media problem. |
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Posted: Yesterday 8:51:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nu3gawhat: This is a good analysis of what happened, detailing the conspiracy against Trump in the documents case. It is a very good analysis that is why the Usual_Suspects have avoided this thread. |
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Posted: Yesterday 9:07:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Biden stole documents he had no authority to possess. Trump did not. It's pretty basic. Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. Lol that's an ignorant read of the situation. |
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Posted: Yesterday 9:12:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dorobuta: Actually, since they were copies, they were his to keep. Again pretty simple. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dorobuta: Originally Posted By himarker: Even "if" he was able to possess hem it doesn't mean he owns them. The government does and he was no longer the president. I'm not sure why you think a former employee of the government gets to keep government property Actually, since they were copies, they were his to keep. Again pretty simple. Also the President is not an "employee of the government", former or current. |
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Posted: Yesterday 9:27:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Even "if" he was able to possess hem it doesn't mean he owns them. The government does and he was no longer the president. I'm not sure why you think a former employee of the government gets to keep government property Presidential Records Act. Read it? I'm guessing you have not .... |
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Posted: Yesterday 9:28:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sketti: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sketti: Originally Posted By himarker: Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Biden stole documents he had no authority to possess. Trump did not. It's pretty basic. Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. TDS to the max! |
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Posted: Yesterday 9:30:53 PM EDT
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Bill Clinton's sock drawer.
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Posted: Yesterday 9:38:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kihn]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By himarker: Trump kept documents when he was instructed to give them back, biden did not. Pretty simple. By someone who did not have superior authority above the president in that decision-making. A bureaucratic soviet does not have exclusive authority over the president (acting or former) Trump was wanting to fight the issue in court. They decided that they would do it before the judiciary made a call. |
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Posted: Yesterday 9:41:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man: Yes. And still nothing will happen. The Federal government in its current form is above the law. They are more suggestions than actual rules to them. |
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Posted: Yesterday 9:45:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By madmathew: Who instructed Trump to give back documents? A bureaucrat. |
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Posted: Yesterday 10:29:23 PM EDT
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Sadly, this means exactly DICK!
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Posted: Yesterday 10:43:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: Biden was too incompetent/dementia baked to stand trial for his crimes Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: Originally Posted By safe1: "No reasonable Prosecutor!" Oh, wait that was Hillary. Biden was too incompetent/dementia baked to stand trial for his crimes However he is competent enough to be president of the USA. |
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Posted: Yesterday 10:44:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Biden stole documents he had no authority to possess. Trump did not. It's pretty basic. |
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